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GamiSB wrote: But there was plently wrong with it. Loop holes and uneven power between the two cities are only the tip of the iceberg. The truce was never meant to make both sides equal. Illyria

So Danielle Wright wants to "ensure human control over the Matrix"? She's starting to sound like Anome. Illyria

Maybe they think "Better dead than supplying power to the Machines"? Illyria

I heard that too. But I can predict what Zion/EPN will say... "It's ok, because they Died Free!" Illyria

Your definition of honor is different than mine. Illyria

I don't consider them heroes. I consider them soldiers. Illyria

Shi+Xin+Feng wrote: And what would happen if Zion were to lay down its arms, drop its defenses, and say, "okay, you win. Now how about the next step?" Then negotiations could begin. Illyria

Pyraci wrote: But something must be done when the slave master doesn't want to hear words of freedom. Even going back to the Hebrews when they were held in Egypt, the Pharaoh only let the people go when he wasn't able to keep control of th...

Very interesting, seeing the functions those exiles had. Sometimes we forget that there are programs behind everything in the Matrix, even the little things, and that many of them are sentient. Also, I hope this is a step towards more tole...

Our ancestors tried that. It didn't work. Illyria

Trayen1 wrote: Seriously though, I would've liked to see how the operation would've turned out if the Merovingian didn't have some random dregs on duty. OOC: Darn those pre-scripted events! Illyria

machete wrote: Now that you have seen the machines kill for no reason but to kill. To kill because the "system deemed it necessary" are the machines those noble programs you once thought they were? No, you are the one who is mistaken my ol...

MxO-PhanthomZtryker wrote: Strangely enough Roukan sounds like... someone familiar. Can't remember who. Xander, from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Lyr

Well, it's EPN's funeral... I'm just thankful they're not going to attack the fields. Illyria

You may want to keep your new ideas to yourself, Khepril, at least around others in your organization. Because you're starting to think like a Machinist. Illyria

Shi+Xin+Feng wrote: Why do you choose to cling so fervently to the hope that mankind's greatest savior is dead? Better yet, if he were alive, would you not advocate his return to Zion? This connection with this Sarah Edmontons, tenuous as...

XiaoDian wrote: The question of "Batteries" really seems like it trying to drive this point home to all Red-Pills. What is the true purpose behind the Matrix? To keep us from hurting them, or hurting ourselves? (If they don't need us as a...

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GamiSB wrote: However I stand by saying the with there only being roughly 600k potentials within the Matrix One percent of 6 billion is 60 million, not 600 thousand. Illyria

Roukan wrote: I understand the reasoning behind it too, but it still doesn't make it right. The hypocrasy here is astounding with Illyria's case. As someone stated before, killing Agents in self defense is a bad bad naughty move, but killi...

Very interesting operation report. But ultimately inaccurate, at least in parts. Illyria

Pyraci wrote: Yep. So much for that. This is war, sweetie. The Colonel declared our interests illegitimate and is acting against us. We're rebelling. It's that simple. - Ezechiel Shall we assume, then, that any bluepill potential will auto...

r3spon5e wrote: To serve the Machines is to be a traitor to humanity and peace for all. That's all there is for you. Be a Machinist and know your place. Your opinion means nothing to me. Because it's people like you, with your fanaticism a...

Ghost wrote: One more for the cause. So much for giving new redpills the choice of which org to work for. (I guess Zion only values choice when it's the "right" choice.) Illyria

We're at war. And in all wars, innocent people die. There's no way around it, unfortunately. Illyria

I would be a Machinist as well. Illyria

My faction's rule is red = dead. However, there are some targets we will attack preferentially. Illyria

MetaLogic wrote: I wouldn't put it past the kiddies to try to bomb 01. Now note I said try to bomb it. It'll be funny to see the grounds near 01 littered with EPN hovercrafts. I would like to see that as well. Illyria

Neoteny wrote: Was it a statement that we may have expected them to terminate the Truce and attack us? Yeah, it was. Were we wrong to fear such a thing? After all, it's come true, hasn't it? It came true because Zion made it come true. You...

Crowlos wrote: Since when has Zion been the known aggressor, they never have been and fortifying themselves to strike, are you serious, like I said this is about them regaining control that they lost. Humanity has been a known aggressor ag...

Neoteny wrote: The Machines called a Pre-Emptive strike. They attacked before we did a thing, because they feared that we might develop technology with which to attack. You forget that the Machines haven't attacked Zion. Yet. Illyria

The analogy is sound; both Japan and Zion did something they knew would be construed as hostile by a foreign government. And of course human history should be brought up -- we don't exist in a vacuum with no knowledge of what our species h...

Crowlos wrote: Thank you Agent Gray for openly admitting the it was the machines who terminated the truce. Saying the Machines restarted the war on Zion by 'terminating' the truce was over is kind of like saying that the US started the war...

Pyraci wrote: We aren't interested in favors from Machinists nor from the Machine itself. Excellent, because you won't be getting any. Illyria

Neoteny wrote: Now, this suggests that they're going to do something to you once you've finished helping them decimate Zion. Something I'd be willing to bet you won't like - being overwritten, killed, hovercraft swarmed and destroyed by Ma...

Neoteny wrote: Anyhow, if I were a Machinist, I would be most concerned about this little statement: Now, why should we be concerned? I had always assumed we were monitored in some way. There has to be some kind of oversight, so that dange...

Flood and the Effectuator need to go on a mission together... Lyr

It's a shame that extractions are no longer permitted...hopefully they will be reinstated at some time in the future. But for now, Zion's free ride is over. As for the question of age at extraction, I've already suggested why Zion has trad...

Thanks for the help, I was able to fix it! Lyr

Just thought this bears repeating. Illyria

I did...something...to my chatbox settings last night, and now nothing will appear in the system chat box. I did a search on this forum and found a thread that referred to this problem, with these instructions: ShadowSK wrote: K... Good ne...

Trust me, you do not want to see my most recent screenshots! (Naked crew picture, naked pvp, and other things that have scarred TC's more sensitive members for life...) Lyr

If you truly fight for humans "both inside and outside the Matrix", you will demonstrate this by not participating in the sick contest your liaison described tonight...you will not kill agents (for their tieclips), because by doing so you...

GoDGiVeR wrote: The information taken let's me safely assume that action will only be taken to subdue Zion and New Zion, not destroy them. As Gray said, action will only be taken to disable enemy HoverCrafts that are hostile. Since it's an...

Skill wrote: Okay, you've said that several times before and i still have no clue where you got that idea... Zion knew the Machines would view the construction and arming of New Zion as invalidating the truce. Yet they did it anyway, thus...

Rarebit wrote: The Machines did not invent the emergency jackout system. I always wondered about when and how it was invented. Illyria

I think the point is that the Machines *are* going to send their armies. Take a look at Agent Gray's speech to the Machinists on Syntax. Illyria

Pyraci wrote: The Machine knew that trying to make a couple of Zion's captains (Cryptos and Toorima) into puppets to control the population that rejects the Matrix, not to mention sabotaging and committing acts of terrorism against Zion is...

Illyria pushed her chair back and smiled. She'd finished reading the latest statement about the current situation...all the statements, actually, from everyone on every side. Speculations as to what would happen to Zion, the Machines' huma...

Neoteny wrote: If "undermining" the Truce by building a city, which actually has nothing to do with the conditions above breaks the Truce, I submit to you that it has broken for quite some time. Most of us did not know the specific terms o...

Croesus wrote: Hydrazine wrote: We would destroy all machines that know the difference between an enemy and an ally and take away control. We would figure out a way to take control over the Matrix and keep it alive until all humans are giv...

Neoteny wrote: You want to know what undermined the Truce? Paid sabotage, murder, and spying, all with the intent to both destroy Zion and its inhabitants, and prevent awakenings. I don't think the original intent was to destroy Zion and p...

Pyraci wrote: The idea is to look for a different way, and just because the machinists haven't thought of a way to straighten this without controlling Zion It's not our job to straighten this out. Let me repeat that for anyone who still do...

He said 'shut them down', not 'stop them'. And the genocide I was speaking of refers to the Machine race, not the bluepills...who, incidentally, will probably all die if the Machines and the Matrix are 'shut down'. Illyria

"We know what we have to do: shut the Machines down. That's the only way to be sure." So what you're saying is that you want to wipe out the Machine race? Just like our ancestors tried to do? All I can say -- aside from that your willingne...

Crossover wrote: Illyria22 wrote: The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging them to forgive you for doing something that your leaders *knew* would be construed as breaking the truce. If you want the truce...

If the Machines still accept the DoE, then TC does as well. Illyria

The Machines do, but Machinists don't. Illyria

Zion's leaders seem to know the terms of the truce, because they knew the Machines would look at what they'd done as breaking the truce. You might want to ask Niobe and Lock what the terms were. Illyria

Crossover wrote: If I were a machinist I would be preaching to the machines with all my heart to not retract the truce simply because Zion's protecting herself. The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging th...