Garu wrote:The Truce has been over for about 60 hours now and we've done nothing but argue, debate, name-call and yap about the reasons behind the stances of the two largest and most influential factions in the history of this organization.
Both sides have very valid reasons for taking the stances they have. The only problem is that you all insist on arguing your cases like either side is going to budge. Both of you have gotten so angry and so hostile towards each other that many of us are in dismay. You are the examples, the role models for many of the other factions and are both highly respected.
I'm asking that you respect each other's viewpoints and move forward. You can't change anyone's minds and shouldn't waste time trying. We all still work for the betterment of mankind and yet we're so divided right now that we're weaker than Ebola and her band of jack-yankers. Rise up and be the great factions that we all know you are. Because frankly, this is getting us no where, real fast.
"The only way to get there is together."
I encourage everyone to remain open-minded about this state of affairs. We must be united or else we've already failed. Don't do this for me. Do this for the organization, the liaisons, the system and the millions of people who depend on us to protect them. Zion may be innocent or they may be lying dogs. Regardless, we must be the symbol of our people.
For the future and for all forms of intelligence,
Garutachi
I've not posted in this thread yet, because honestly I didn't know what to say that hadn't already been said by you Garu. But I think I have something to add. The two factions in question have to highly radical shifts in ideals at our cores. The Collective is very much Machinist to its very beginnings. They are soldiers of the Machine organization first and foremost. There is nothing wrong with that, every organization needs to have soldiers, and TC has done its job well since the beginning.
The Mega City Department of Energy, is different in key ways. This faction is Machinist aligned because we believe that the only way to get there is together, just like Garu said. We as a faction were very pro-truce, and as that truce is now gone, we have switched gears to trying to bring back
a Truce, though it is our hopes for something even better and more progressive then before.
The issue has come to the fact that TC believes that the DOE should shoot when told to, and the DOE thinks that TC needs to question even their higher ups.
This is not fair of either side. We are not the same faction, we do not have the same core values as each other.
There is nothing wrong with being a soldier, there is nothing wrong with being a thinker. And both groups have their fair share of BOTH.
Agent Gray, Agent Pace, they have both met with members of the Department in the past, and have accepted our stances, and in cases even promoted these stances as ideal for further growth. Even today, Eventual accepts our stances as the best to benefit all involved, Zion and Machine. Nothing has changed in our ideals, nothing has changed in where we stand. We are Machinists still. We are not Zionist. We are Machinists, because we will continue to work
with the Machines to benefit everyone involved.
By that same right those same Agents have met with The Collective and thanked them for their efforts, for their blood sweat and tears. The Collective are Machinists still. They are not Cypherites, they are not warmongers. They are soldiers of the Machine organization by choice.
I am willing to apologize to The Collective for asking them to bend to my way of thinking, if they are willing to do the same, for asking me to bend to theirs.
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