42 posts · 2007-09-04 20:02:56 to 2007-09-15 21:41:19
((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)
OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manner. However his sacrifice will not be in vain.
-Trep
It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manor. However his sacrifice will not be in vein.
-Trep
Trial and error huh?
::::chuckles::::
MAFIA - Merovingian
AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
His sacrifice? HIS sacrifice? No no no I dont believe he had a choice in sacrificeing himself you made that decision for him, and you call us monsters.......It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manor. However his sacrifice will not be in vein.
-Trep
I'm going with everyone else. Playing with a bluepill's life is no small thing, and the outcome was the worst of it.It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manor. However his sacrifice will not be in vein.
-Trep
Next time risk your life and not the innocent. You'll regret this sooner or later, Captain.
Trepetia wrote:I'm going with everyone else. Playing with a bluepill's life is no small thing, and the outcome was the worst of it.It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manor. However his sacrifice will not be in vein.
-Trep
Haigen wrote:Dead silent?! There's a whole thread on the outrage when Pace ordered the death of a bluepill, but at least she knew what they were doing, working toward ending this destructive war quickly.Next time risk your life and not the innocent. You'll regret this sooner or later, Captain.
HAHA, should I laugh at the attempt in trying to sound better than us? You risk the bluepill lifes the same way, even worse in my opinion. You have no right to critizise this, Cyphy.
Roukan wrote:Trepetia wrote:I'm going with everyone else. Playing with a bluepill's life is no small thing, and the outcome was the worst of it.It's a real blow to lose David, especially in such a tragic manor. However his sacrifice will not be in vein.
-Trep
Who cares? The Machines certainly don't (they just take over bodies of random people which later get killed by Reds who need to run for and defend their lives) and the Cypherites don't either (if a potential would take the red and refuses blue, they force him to take blue or just kill him, it has happened and still happens).
You guys are only angry at Zion, but if it comes down to when Mechs, Mervs or even Cyphies playing around with the blues, it's dead silent.
AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
Your attempts to circumvent the system causes many bluepill deaths, not only those who you test out with prototype codes, but also with the ones that the system uses to try to prevent you from tampering with it.
Blame the Machines all you want, but this bluepill's blood is on your hands, just because someone thinks they have a new code to try doesn't mean you have to immediately try it out on test subjects.
Wrights pride and Zions ignorance caused this.
Excusing yourself that the system does it with more logic, efficiency and because of the need, that is complete BS.
I didn't try to excuse their actions and I wouldn't excuse it, not when it comes down to the lives of the people that I and a good many Machinists are trying to protect. What I did say was that Pace knew of the outcome before the order was given, she knew that that one unfortunate bluepill would be killed.
Testing a new prototype pill on a Bluepill with promises of the 'truth' and 'freedom' when not even the designer is fully sure that it'd work is completely different. Did you even tell him it was a prototype? His attitude could have been a lot different if you told him that it may not work.
For all the good it did, this may as well be your new 'red pill'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.
You guys are only angry at Zion, but if it comes down to when Mechs, Mervs or even Cyphies playing around with the blues, it's dead silent.
AFGM1 wrote:((Dude relax on blaming the whole of EPN. First off before you take the org as whole as a bunch spamers you are actually quoting someone in EPN and agreeing with them. So that just there proves you cant say all that about EPN...What the zion spamers who spam EPN events or even there own events?((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
Haigen wrote:Next time risk your life and not the innocent. You'll regret this sooner or later, Captain.
HAHA, should I laugh at the attempt in trying to sound better than us? You risk the bluepill lifes the same way, even worse in my opinion. You have no right to critizise this, Cyphy.
You're barking up the wrong tree, mutt. I have no interest in petty squabbles with you over your meaningless opinion of our organization. The day of reckoning is coming.
Sweet dreams.
GoDGiVeR wrote:((Well Roukan, I don't see where the problem lies? The character Dedatorus is a young, quite naive Zion operative. You shouldn't be surprised by such statements. Ah well, now you know.))HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.
You guys are only angry at Zion, but if it comes down to when Mechs, Mervs or even Cyphies playing around with the blues, it's dead silent.
I'm not even going to dignify that with an IC response, I'm the first person to bring up Mechs killing bluepills, or Cyphs, and mervs. Good job not learning the facts.
GoDGiVeR wrote:Excusing yourself that the system does it with more logic, efficiency and because of the need, that is complete BS.I didn't try to excuse their actions and I wouldn't excuse it, not when it comes down to the lives of the people that I and a good many Machinists are trying to protect. What I did say was that Pace knew of the outcome before the order was given, she knew that that one unfortunate bluepill would be killed.
Testing a new prototype pill on a Bluepill with promises of the 'truth' and 'freedom' when not even the designer is fully sure that it'd work is completely different. Did you even tell him it was a prototype? His attitude could have been a lot different if you told him that it may not work.
That is EPNs weapon, not ours.For all the good it did, this may as well be your new 'red pill'
hellstomp3r wrote:(( I also agree with this. Things have gotten so bad with these Zion events that I actually no longer take part in them. I HATE seeing EPNs at Zion events but it is not right to blame them completely. The fact that Zion is the "default" org means alot of new players show up to these events, and don't have any idea what they are doing. That causes problems, but nothing can be done about that. What really gets to me is seeing Zion events like this ruined by expiririanced players. I refuse to take part in a Zion event where the majority of sane behavior is by EPN. Zion and EPN are allies, but they are not the same org. I just find it very annoying that Zion can't have an event without EPN taking over the scene. -_- ))AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
(( I agree with you regarding the mass amount of idiocy at the event...in fact I event commented to you about it while the event was going on...however I don't think it's fair to vilify an entire org based on that. Every org has bad seeds. Sometimes when enough of them get in one place at an event, it casts a broad shadow. The recent-ish hybrid Q&A event with Michael and Niobe, for example, I think people overall were very well-behaved. Lastly, from an RP standpoint, I understood EPN and Zion had each other's collective backs right now; I had thought the "not sharing of information" thing was a bit passé during the present timeframe. ))
shinpseudo wrote:((I will say it was a combination of both Zion and EPN who were spamming, like with Cafu shouting 'WTB Patchers Bandana' or whatever he said. I got him to shut up by whispering I'd report him if he didn't be quiet, although I know that won't work on everyone and I'm not gonna take the time to tell everyone that who can't keep quiet. One of the others who couldn't keep quiet also went mech the next day. And I'll be quiet now, because I said what I came here to say and don't wanna be a spammer!hellstomp3r wrote:(( I also agree with this. Things have gotten so bad with these Zion events that I actually no longer take part in them. I HATE seeing EPNs at Zion events but it is not right to blame them completely. The fact that Zion is the "default" org means alot of new players show up to these events, and don't have any idea what they are doing. That causes problems, but nothing can be done about that. What really gets to me is seeing Zion events like this ruined by expiririanced players. I refuse to take part in a Zion event where the majority of sane behavior is by EPN. Zion and EPN are allies, but they are not the same org. I just find it very annoying that Zion can't have an event without EPN taking over the scene. -_- ))AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
(( I agree with you regarding the mass amount of idiocy at the event...in fact I event commented to you about it while the event was going on...however I don't think it's fair to vilify an entire org based on that. Every org has bad seeds. Sometimes when enough of them get in one place at an event, it casts a broad shadow. The recent-ish hybrid Q&A event with Michael and Niobe, for example, I think people overall were very well-behaved. Lastly, from an RP standpoint, I understood EPN and Zion had each other's collective backs right now; I had thought the "not sharing of information" thing was a bit passé during the present timeframe. ))
))So Danielle Wright wants to "ensure human control over the Matrix"? She's starting to sound like Anome.
Illyria
This is a new low, even for Zion. This was an insult to the good name of science and an act of murder. Zion *knew* the pills were lethal - tests on redpills prooved them to be fatal or at least caused severe injury. To expect something different when used on an unawakened is rediculous. I will not allow this needless slaughter to continue.
It is 'unethical' to conduct such tests, less so when the control group (despite the fact that there was only one test subject, so this experiment gets the 'invalidity' stamp in my book) is supposed to die. However being a physicist I tend to not have reason to conduct experiments involving living things. Silly chemists.
But, from a redpill standpoint;
Apparently someone didn't get the memo. Everyone kills bluepills.
Its somthing that can't be avoided given the status quo.
Anytime you kill Building Security or a SWAT officer or even an Agent, really.Apparently someone didn't get the memo. Everyone kills bluepills.
Its somthing that can't be avoided given the status quo.
kou_urake wrote:This is a new low, even for Zion. This was an insult to the good name of science and an act of murder. Zion *knew* the pills were lethal - tests on redpills prooved them to be fatal or at least caused severe injury. To expect something different when used on an unawakened is rediculous. I will not allow this needless slaughter to continue.
Oh, no, we didn't. Wright considered that issue causing the injury corrected, so did we. And the reason he died was not the same reason why people were injured in before - a totally other reason. We don't kill Bluepills randomly - unlike specific... other people... I don't need to name.
Tosuno wrote:shinpseudo wrote:((I will say it was a combination of both Zion and EPN who were spamming, like with Cafu shouting 'WTB Patchers Bandana' or whatever he said. I got him to shut up by whispering I'd report him if he didn't be quiet, although I know that won't work on everyone and I'm not gonna take the time to tell everyone that who can't keep quiet. One of the others who couldn't keep quiet also went mech the next day. And I'll be quiet now, because I said what I came here to say and don't wanna be a spammer!hellstomp3r wrote:(( I also agree with this. Things have gotten so bad with these Zion events that I actually no longer take part in them. I HATE seeing EPNs at Zion events but it is not right to blame them completely. The fact that Zion is the "default" org means alot of new players show up to these events, and don't have any idea what they are doing. That causes problems, but nothing can be done about that. What really gets to me is seeing Zion events like this ruined by expiririanced players. I refuse to take part in a Zion event where the majority of sane behavior is by EPN. Zion and EPN are allies, but they are not the same org. I just find it very annoying that Zion can't have an event without EPN taking over the scene. -_- ))AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
(( I agree with you regarding the mass amount of idiocy at the event...in fact I event commented to you about it while the event was going on...however I don't think it's fair to vilify an entire org based on that. Every org has bad seeds. Sometimes when enough of them get in one place at an event, it casts a broad shadow. The recent-ish hybrid Q&A event with Michael and Niobe, for example, I think people overall were very well-behaved. Lastly, from an RP standpoint, I understood EPN and Zion had each other's collective backs right now; I had thought the "not sharing of information" thing was a bit passé during the present timeframe. ))
((this is one of the first times i have use my ignore on so many people at a event...but it helps. We can't really do anything about the Zion/EPN mixed event's before they choose to spilt up the organisations so they run there own critical mission and have there own event's. We discuss this problem everytime there has been event and we also know there is not much we can do about it. I really don't have a solution for the problem but it is a problem that will keep some players away from the LE's. But how do we fix that problem? I don't think there is a solution to it....))
img>Vitruv wrote:kou_urake wrote:This is a new low, even for Zion. This was an insult to the good name of science and an act of murder. Zion *knew* the pills were lethal - tests on redpills prooved them to be fatal or at least caused severe injury. To expect something different when used on an unawakened is rediculous. I will not allow this needless slaughter to continue.
Oh, no, we didn't. Wright considered that issue causing the injury corrected, so did we. And the reason he died was not the same reason why people were injured in before - a totally other reason. We don't kill Bluepills randomly - unlike specific... other people... I don't need to name.
Ah, so it's standard policy to *not* test revised pills and skip right to live trials. That makes *so* much sense. Furthermore the Machines do not "randomly" kill Bluepills - in the rare and tragic circumstances that they were killed were planned and calculated. Tragic acts I also disagree with, but understand the rationale behind. This however, was a needless rush to use an untested program with questionable stability at best.
AFGM1 wrote:((The best solution for serperation is to create the seprate org identity (Which wont be that hard) but then have EPN run Zion missions, tho I doubt it will sove spam at LEs to be honest thoTosuno wrote:shinpseudo wrote:((I will say it was a combination of both Zion and EPN who were spamming, like with Cafu shouting 'WTB Patchers Bandana' or whatever he said. I got him to shut up by whispering I'd report him if he didn't be quiet, although I know that won't work on everyone and I'm not gonna take the time to tell everyone that who can't keep quiet. One of the others who couldn't keep quiet also went mech the next day. And I'll be quiet now, because I said what I came here to say and don't wanna be a spammer!hellstomp3r wrote:(( I also agree with this. Things have gotten so bad with these Zion events that I actually no longer take part in them. I HATE seeing EPNs at Zion events but it is not right to blame them completely. The fact that Zion is the "default" org means alot of new players show up to these events, and don't have any idea what they are doing. That causes problems, but nothing can be done about that. What really gets to me is seeing Zion events like this ruined by expiririanced players. I refuse to take part in a Zion event where the majority of sane behavior is by EPN. Zion and EPN are allies, but they are not the same org. I just find it very annoying that Zion can't have an event without EPN taking over the scene. -_- ))AFGM1 wrote:((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.)OMG, this is so true. I have recieved emails from all Zion Officer Liasons stating that we do not, nor shall not share information with EPN. Yet you let them into our meetings? They dont let us into thiers! Matter of fact most of EPN liason are total &%$#* yet you let EPN ops come in and spam and ruin our "Zion" events. I really am geting sick of this. As a Zion. A true *CENSORED* ZION!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to see how Niobe/rare let Havocide kinda start dictating things for a min. (sarfkncastic)
Favoritizm is rough enough, but to bring it to a "ZION" event, now im kinda really totally pissed about this.
"soon to be banned or applauded"
Neopill
(( I agree with you regarding the mass amount of idiocy at the event...in fact I event commented to you about it while the event was going on...however I don't think it's fair to vilify an entire org based on that. Every org has bad seeds. Sometimes when enough of them get in one place at an event, it casts a broad shadow. The recent-ish hybrid Q&A event with Michael and Niobe, for example, I think people overall were very well-behaved. Lastly, from an RP standpoint, I understood EPN and Zion had each other's collective backs right now; I had thought the "not sharing of information" thing was a bit passé during the present timeframe. ))((this is one of the first times i have use my ignore on so many people at a event...but it helps. We can't really do anything about the Zion/EPN mixed event's before they choose to spilt up the organisations so they run there own critical mission and have there own event's. We discuss this problem everytime there has been event and we also know there is not much we can do about it. I really don't have a solution for the problem but it is a problem that will keep some players away from the LE's. But how do we fix that problem? I don't think there is a solution to it....))
. I think the only real sollution is a /ignore that also hides system chat messages cos they get annoying to))
((This was one of the worst events I've ever been to, no it wasn't SOE's fault, it was all those *CENSORED* idiots that attended who couldn't shut up and stop spamming my chat window.))Yes... A lot of Zionist's can be like that.
Next time risk your life and not the innocent. You'll regret this sooner or later, Captain.
I don't know. I can't quite recall the last time that I used an innocent human being as a guinea pig that resulted in their unfortunate death.
Care to refresh my memory, dear?
I don't know. I can't quite recall the last time that I used an innocent human being as a guinea pig that resulted in their unfortunate death.
Care to refresh my memory, dear?
lol
i made as much spam as possible to show my annoyance at this so called event - im sorry if you RPs thought this was the bees-knees but i expected better...much better!!
/shame
oh cool, so your the new moderator, erm dev??
or maybe event ligitamacy police??
get over yourself, please sir!
how rude.