Server PvP Differences

196 posts · 2007-06-28 12:53:47 to 2008-02-26 03:16:51

#36300270742 06/28/2007 12:53:47 Server PvP Differences

Aimed mainly at those who play on more than one server, what are the main differences between them with regard to PvP?

Yes obviously Vector is perma-flag but that, I hear, doesn't necessarily make it "better" for PvP.

Also, of course, the server community has a lot to do with such things so I'd expect different experiences from people on Recursion to those on Syntax.

So, oh wise an' mighty PvP'ers, what pros and cons are there for each server?
#36300270753 06/28/2007 13:13:11 Re:Server PvP Differences
I find that loads are different between hostile and non-hostile by a little in certain aspects. Stealth abilities for example is used allot on hostile as it allows you to pick your battles.

PVP on non hostile worlds is stuck at one or two locations. For example the machines tried to move pvp from Mara C on recursion once but the other two orgs wouldn't move. So if you want to pvp on Recursion at least you know it's at Mara C. Syntax i think it's Mara C and Tabor W although i'm a noob there so i could be wrong. With this the case you get larger battles typically. On Vector your battles are spread out and can and do move to other places so they can potentially be smaller skirmishes. Mara C is still a spot you can go to if your intentionally looking for a fight though.

Lastly there is no Blue rezes, or Blue attacks on Vector. You can't simply take a break and sit down without a potential to be taken out. Also some factions are kill reds on sight. Others are more diplomatic about it.

One of the funnest things though on Vector is hunting. You pick an enemy character and hunt them till you find them and kill them. You can't do that on non hostile worlds.
#36300271147 06/29/2007 02:12:52 Re:Server PvP Differences

Recursion usually has a flagged "chicken with its head cut off" every so often who causes one org to attack then that flagged org is attack by the headless chicken org then usually the last org will kill the weaker of the two like the snipers and MKT without shields or the people down too half health sometimes you find to evenly matched fighters in close combat get killed by an outside party when both of their health are next to zero.

Some cases it starts with name calling then the two just go at it with all the backup they could rally up.

Can't say most times for zion but when meros or machines are overpowered by the zion armada they band together until the enemy is dead...then go at it with each other.

Rarely one org faction will call the leaders of every faction in that org and decide to run over mara. (last time i saw this stunt was back in Iterator when we still had aim as communication i think the factions were: Red Code Army as lead, Guardians of Unreality, Endless, Devils Advocate, and Section 8 i could be wrong or missed some though.) Again its rare due to the little amount of people and the less want to do any large gathering if theres not a live event, party, or both. 

#36300273689 07/03/2007 04:07:38 Re:Server PvP Differences

In my experiences I find this:-

Recursion:-

James your right mainly it always starts this way most of the time, but we had what I call 'The IP Wars' recently which gave Mervs the advantage. Several names pop up for me from Zion that fought in them and it was really the era where for once we saw Zion fight against the Zerg. Personally I loved 'The IP Wars' (It still exists partially with skirmishes breaking out every so often). It taught alot of us, that we can't use Zerg tactics anymore we had to learn against it, and we really did see who the true pvp'rs were... the guys that stood and fought that is.

Biggest PvP: Zion

Vector:-

Like Gretyl said this can be open, I am yet to see any BIG battles, but as Gret said there are alot of skirmishes. The thing that sets Vector off, and which I do like about it, is the smack talk. No one does it like Vectorites, and the egos out there are a match for my own SMILEY It's got talent out there, but their fashion dress is mainly resistance.

Biggest PvP: Merv 

Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH

#36300295672 08/02/2007 08:43:26 Re:Server PvP Differences

I couldn't imagine playing on a carebear server in any game.

/shudder

#36300296073 08/03/2007 00:44:51 Re:Server PvP Differences
ThHidden01 wrote:

In my experiences I find this:-

Recursion:-

James your right mainly it always starts this way most of the time, but we had what I call 'The IP Wars' recently which gave Mervs the advantage. Several names pop up for me from Zion that fought in them and it was really the era where for once we saw Zion fight against the Zerg. Personally I loved 'The IP Wars' (It still exists partially with skirmishes breaking out every so often). It taught alot of us, that we can't use Zerg tactics anymore we had to learn against it, and we really did see who the true pvp'rs were... the guys that stood and fought that is.

Biggest PvP: Zion

Vector:-

Like Gretyl said this can be open, I am yet to see any BIG battles, but as Gret said there are alot of skirmishes. The thing that sets Vector off, and which I do like about it, is the smack talk. No one does it like Vectorites, and the egos out there are a match for my own SMILEY It's got talent out there, but their fashion dress is mainly resistance.

Biggest PvP: Merv 

Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH

Sitting as level 2 flagged can happent on every server and don't proof a s***.  I Actully think the PvP is fine on Syntax and there are allways someone to pvp with whatever you are Zion, Mech or Merv. Oh...and get over that Zion jumpers, that is most abused word by someone who hate to loose....come up with someting new instead, becaurse is soooooooo noobish.

Excuse me for being rude, but i am really tired of that Zion/Mech/Merv *CENSORED* jumper acuses evertime and it only spoils the PvP.

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#36300296112 08/03/2007 05:27:37 Re:Server PvP Differences
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
If you are reading this my sig didn't work T_T
#36300296119 08/03/2007 05:48:43 Re:Server PvP Differences
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
Whats with all the hate of syntax mannnnn just because our pvp is better, if you knew anything you would know Foxhound are now ShadowArk and Merv which has leveled out the server. Pvp wise id say its got a lot more interesting not as much zerging even zion try to work as a team now and the mervs finally started to come out.
#36300296165 08/03/2007 08:29:43 Re:Server PvP Differences
I can't speak for Recursion since I think I haven't spent even an hour there yet but I've been on Syntax a bit and Vector, well over 100 days I'd have to say.

Vector combat is very much like skirmishes, Simply because you don't have the preparation time or the numbers required for that kind of combat. Yet it becomes the most realistic because I have never seen an all out war in any of the three films. Some people think that Vector is the home of all the "smack talk" again that isn't the case. There are more factions that generally do "smack talk" on Syntax than Vector has factions. or the numbers will be similar anyway. Vector is also trying to stomp that out with RPvP. You'll also find that the majority of the posters here that contribute are actually Vectorites. Syntax from what I've seen (not participated in) generally revolves around the PvP groups and it is centered around Mara C, I've not seen fights anywhere else on the scale of that. Syntax combat usually revolves around fighting with numbers, which allows for the large scale combat that is common on there, and because you can get a large group of different organizations in the same area, makes it much easier and this is how

Hostile machines jacks in
Zion attacks Machine
Machines (plural) attack Zion
Zion (plural) attack Machines (plural)

and of course this can happen other ways as well.
#36300296189 08/03/2007 09:45:58 Re:Server PvP Differences
While I'm not a PvPer by any means, I will still jump in here and comment on the level 2 thing.  Generally most well behaved players I've been around won't attack a flagged level 2 unless they are specifically asking for it by being a.. jerk.  If there are other players of that org around, it could be a trap.  If not, then many just consider it to be "bad manners."  Overall, I wouldn't say willingness to gank a flagged level 2 says much about a server's PvP.  It may say something, however, about that server's demeanor.
#36300296441 08/03/2007 21:07:07 Re:Server PvP Differences

My faction's rule is red = dead.  However, there are some targets we will attack preferentially.

Illyria

#36300296542 08/04/2007 04:59:31 Re:Server PvP Differences
pack-hunter wrote:
I can't speak for Recursion since I think I haven't spent even an hour there yet but I've been on Syntax a bit and Vector, well over 100 days I'd have to say.

Vector combat is very much like skirmishes, Simply because you don't have the preparation time or the numbers required for that kind of combat. Yet it becomes the most realistic because I have never seen an all out war in any of the three films. Some people think that Vector is the home of all the "smack talk" again that isn't the case. There are more factions that generally do "smack talk" on Syntax than Vector has factions. or the numbers will be similar anyway. Vector is also trying to stomp that out with RPvP. You'll also find that the majority of the posters here that contribute are actually Vectorites. Syntax from what I've seen (not participated in) generally revolves around the PvP groups and it is centered around Mara C, I've not seen fights anywhere else on the scale of that. Syntax combat usually revolves around fighting with numbers, which allows for the large scale combat that is common on there, and because you can get a large group of different organizations in the same area, makes it much easier and this is how

Hostile machines jacks in
Zion attacks Machine
Machines (plural) attack Zion
Zion (plural) attack Machines (plural)

and of course this can happen other ways as well.
I have to agree here with the Smack talk thing on Vector if you smack talk they can attack you again but on Syntax you can just not flag and smack talk so it happens alot. Although the pvp is moving to tabor W as well now quite a battle there last night
#36300296664 08/04/2007 11:05:23 Re:Server PvP Differences
I rarely flag up, unless it's an event, but I seem to see a lot of OMG SPLOITZ!111 and name-calling in PvP, and a lot of Zionites ganging up on the two smaller orgs (Mervs and Machines), and more "red = dead" than I care to... but there again, I'm on DRamaecursion.
#36300331506 10/01/2007 09:04:15 Re:Server PvP Differences
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
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#36300331755 10/01/2007 17:02:59 Re:Server PvP Differences
ROLLTIDE wrote:
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
Okay this post was posted about 3 or 4 months ago so I will refresh my report:-

Recursion has got worse for hyper jumping now SMILEY Deletion, Maveriks, and Dragoons, with Balance thrown in seem dominant atm.

Sytax seems to have turned Server vs Exploits, and BACK THEN jumps... but compared to Recursion now... there is less. There is still alot of 1k- cq 50s and I know CQ does not prove skill, but it shows exp. Maybe because it is a bigger sever than the other three. Exploits although not as liked, seem pride and possibly the best of all three servers.

Vector has skirmishes as one said, which I agree with, and it tends to still balance in the resistance end of the scale.

Syntax has improved alot over the past months, and I am not saying that because I got blasted, trust me, I aint afraid to utter my views. Back then however it was a heap of *poop* in my eyes.

As for a flagging... how do you know what accounts im flying on SMILEY

TH
#36300331788 10/01/2007 18:14:04 Re:Server PvP Differences
ThHidden01 wrote:
ROLLTIDE wrote:
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
Okay this post was posted about 3 or 4 months ago so I will refresh my report:-

Recursion has got worse for hyper jumping now SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> Deletion, Maveriks, and Dragoons, with Balance thrown in seem dominant atm.

Sytax seems to have turned Server vs Exploits, and BACK THEN jumps... but compared to Recursion now... there is less. There is still alot of 1k- cq 50s and I know CQ does not prove skill, but it shows exp. Maybe because it is a bigger sever than the other three. Exploits although not as liked, seem pride and possibly the best of all three servers.

Vector has skirmishes as one said, which I agree with, and it tends to still balance in the resistance end of the scale.

Syntax has improved alot over the past months, and I am not saying that because I got blasted, trust me, I aint afraid to utter my views. Back then however it was a heap of *CENSORED* in my eyes.

As for a flagging... how do you know what accounts im flying on SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

TH

Talking about jumpers - what do you really mean with that? Is it players that just jump everytime there Health goes below ½ bar? Or is it players that sneak - kill - jumps? There are different views in what a "jumper" is and sometimes it's just a bad excuse or whateveer. I don't understand why that is still such a big topic. I know it's annyoing if someone keeps to jump away everytime you try to IL, well then i just dont attack them anymore because it's getting borring. But what do you think, would be the perfect PvP battle HT??? You have made your judgment/view on what other players do when they PvP. My own view is that PvP is a battle your choose yourself to take part in (on Recursion-Syntax) so it's up to yourself to be best prepared. If the orther player have a better loadout and you keep loosing..well to bad, you just have to do better. If they have a real good Pvp team, like Exploits well to bad you don't have a good pvp team. SOL is right now actully the best Zion pvp faction on Syntax...in my view.

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#36300331924 10/02/2007 03:58:44 Re:Server PvP Differences
ROLLTIDE wrote:
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
!FG
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#36300331925 10/02/2007 04:03:04 Re:Server PvP Differences
Mindsweep wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
ROLLTIDE wrote:
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
Okay this post was posted about 3 or 4 months ago so I will refresh my report:-

Recursion has got worse for hyper jumping now SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> Deletion, Maveriks, and Dragoons, with Balance thrown in seem dominant atm.

Sytax seems to have turned Server vs Exploits, and BACK THEN jumps... but compared to Recursion now... there is less. There is still alot of 1k- cq 50s and I know CQ does not prove skill, but it shows exp. Maybe because it is a bigger sever than the other three. Exploits although not as liked, seem pride and possibly the best of all three servers.

Vector has skirmishes as one said, which I agree with, and it tends to still balance in the resistance end of the scale.

Syntax has improved alot over the past months, and I am not saying that because I got blasted, trust me, I aint afraid to utter my views. Back then however it was a heap of *CENSORED* in my eyes.

As for a flagging... how do you know what accounts im flying on SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

TH

Talking about jumpers - what do you really mean with that? Is it players that just jump everytime there Health goes below ½ bar? Or is it players that sneak - kill - jumps? There are different views in what a "jumper" is and sometimes it's just a bad excuse or whateveer. I don't understand why that is still such a big topic. I know it's annyoing if someone keeps to jump away everytime you try to IL, well then i just dont attack them anymore because it's getting borring. But what do you think, would be the perfect PvP battle HT??? You have made your judgment/view on what other players do when they PvP. My own view is that PvP is a battle your choose yourself to take part in (on Recursion-Syntax) so it's up to yourself to be best prepared. If the orther player have a better loadout and you keep loosing..well to bad, you just have to do better. If they have a real good Pvp team, like Exploits well to bad you don't have a good pvp team. SOL is right now actully the best Zion pvp faction on Syntax...in my view.

Please comment only when you log in and do pvp and i mean pvp without a zerg. Good day to you sir.
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#36300331954 10/02/2007 05:49:40 Re:Server PvP Differences
You know PvP isn't a Professional sport, you don't need any special credentials.
If you are reading this my sig didn't work T_T
#36300332034 10/02/2007 10:01:06 Re:Server PvP Differences

PvP is great on all servers and there are few differences between them, imo.  I will say, though, that there is significantly less jumpage and smack-talk on Syntax as opposed to the other two.

#36300332057 10/02/2007 11:11:01 Re:Server PvP Differences
Let me tell you what happened when I as a zionite went to recursion, lvled a 50 and started pvping. I pvped with 1 more guy against 3 (4?) people. 1 hacker and 2(3?) snipers. Every time the hackers shield got down she just HJed 50 meters away and ,while we were trying to IL one of the snipers, who was sniping us while we attacked her, she remade shield and hacked us, and as soon the shield of the sniper went he did exactly what she did. (another interesting feature is that she was mero and all snipers were mech)
Last time (long ago so this is probably irrelevant) I was on vector as a lvl 18 a lvl 50 started chasing me and after 20 minutes she gave up (gunner able to root etc.) and I really wasn't in the moood of lvling so I stopped.
On syntax I am zionite and I get flamed all the time for other zionites jumping or accusing me of HJ when having 100 HP (what am I supposed to do, stand there and die??) as if we HJ like the recursion post above. On syntax we also have some annoying people that just do LC2 or snipe and HJ before you could even see who is attacking, but most of them "died out".

So right now I wud not say recursion or syntax has better pvp, it's more or less the same with the exception which org is jumping. I cannot speak for vector...
#36300332090 10/02/2007 12:58:12 Re:Server PvP Differences
Good_Game_son wrote:
Mindsweep wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
ROLLTIDE wrote:
Arcanoloth wrote:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Syntax:-

JUMP JUMP JUMP, it's all I see! This server is okay I guess, but there are alot more noobs. The prime factions being Exploits and Foxhound, seem to be the masters atm. However I personally find that the pvp is less wanted maybe. I've sat as a level 2 flagged for about 20 mins b4 with mervs just watching me, okay fair do's there were alot of zion, but still its a level 2. I see alot of jumps in this server and I am shamed to say its Zion SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH


This statement is so insulting and misguided I won't even start to point out how very wrong it is.
How would you know, you never flag.
Okay this post was posted about 3 or 4 months ago so I will refresh my report:-

Recursion has got worse for hyper jumping now SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" /> Deletion, Maveriks, and Dragoons, with Balance thrown in seem dominant atm.

Sytax seems to have turned Server vs Exploits, and BACK THEN jumps... but compared to Recursion now... there is less. There is still alot of 1k- cq 50s and I know CQ does not prove skill, but it shows exp. Maybe because it is a bigger sever than the other three. Exploits although not as liked, seem pride and possibly the best of all three servers.

Vector has skirmishes as one said, which I agree with, and it tends to still balance in the resistance end of the scale.

Syntax has improved alot over the past months, and I am not saying that because I got blasted, trust me, I aint afraid to utter my views. Back then however it was a heap of *CENSORED* in my eyes.

As for a flagging... how do you know what accounts im flying on SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

TH

Talking about jumpers - what do you really mean with that? Is it players that just jump everytime there Health goes below ½ bar? Or is it players that sneak - kill - jumps? There are different views in what a "jumper" is and sometimes it's just a bad excuse or whateveer. I don't understand why that is still such a big topic. I know it's annyoing if someone keeps to jump away everytime you try to IL, well then i just dont attack them anymore because it's getting borring. But what do you think, would be the perfect PvP battle HT??? You have made your judgment/view on what other players do when they PvP. My own view is that PvP is a battle your choose yourself to take part in (on Recursion-Syntax) so it's up to yourself to be best prepared. If the orther player have a better loadout and you keep loosing..well to bad, you just have to do better. If they have a real good Pvp team, like Exploits well to bad you don't have a good pvp team. SOL is right now actully the best Zion pvp faction on Syntax...in my view.

Please comment only when you log in and do pvp and i mean pvp without a zerg. Good day to you sir.
???????????????????????????????????..please only comment something when you really have something to say. Have a nice day.
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#36300332124 10/02/2007 13:48:43 Re:Server PvP Differences

I JUST CANT DO IT (goto recursion or syntax)

Its Pointless too me i see no reason for the server too exist its liek some kind of training simulation

I CAN ONLY HOPE FOR A SERVER MERG ZOMG PLZPLZPLZ

#36300332133 10/02/2007 14:14:54 Re:Server PvP Differences
OoRoyoO wrote:

I JUST CANT DO IT (goto recursion or syntax)

Its Pointless too me i see no reason for the server too exist its liek some kind of training simulation

I CAN ONLY HOPE FOR A SERVER MERG ZOMG PLZPLZPLZ


Bad ROY!!! bad... You know if they did a server merge we the hostile people would get screwed. Id rather have a smaller population and hostile situations than have a larger population and have to flag.

Now go and think about what you just said.
#36300332149 10/02/2007 14:47:05 Re:Server PvP Differences
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
OoRoyoO wrote:

I JUST CANT DO IT (goto recursion or syntax)

Its Pointless too me i see no reason for the server too exist its liek some kind of training simulation

I CAN ONLY HOPE FOR A SERVER MERG ZOMG PLZPLZPLZ


Bad ROY!!! bad... You know if they did a server merge we the hostile people would get screwed. Id rather have a smaller population and hostile situations than have a larger population and have to flag.

Now go and think about what you just said.

Vector- Hyperjumping/Zerglings

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#36300332415 10/03/2007 05:25:31 Re:Server PvP Differences

I can see hyperjumping when you are outnumbered 5 to 1. I can even see someone avoiding IL because they fear you are in ateam and you might call a zerg. However. I have heard of Systematic Chaos throughout all the servers. I have heard about Furious Angels on other servers. But never have I heard about Foxlike, or Exploits at ALL on other servers as compared to those factions. I dont know them personally nor care too, but might want to check it out.

Also. I have seen some folks from recursion come to vector and a good majority of them are fairly good at pvp. Although you have exceptions to this rule. I have noticed they are alot better than alot that come from syntax. So based on my exp with it, I think that Recursion has people with a good sense of the system, and I agree with ROY. Vector to me is the ONLY server. The rest are warm ups. If you want to really feel how it would be to be IN the matrix. Thats the server to go too.

If you want to just talk smack, pls pls, go to WOW, because I want people that can back up their talk. Not people that talk smack and stay blue. That would frustrate me to NO end.

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#36300332443 10/03/2007 07:07:03 Re:Server PvP Differences
Therinwhitten wrote:

I can see hyperjumping when you are outnumbered 5 to 1. I can even see someone avoiding IL because they fear you are in ateam and you might call a zerg. However. I have heard of Systematic Chaos throughout all the servers. I have heard about Furious Angels on other servers. But never have I heard about Foxlike, or Exploits at ALL on other servers as compared to those factions. I dont know them personally nor care too, but might want to check it out.

Also. I have seen some folks from recursion come to vector and a good majority of them are fairly good at pvp. Although you have exceptions to this rule. I have noticed they are alot better than alot that come from syntax. So based on my exp with it, I think that Recursion has people with a good sense of the system, and I agree with ROY. Vector to me is the ONLY server. The rest are warm ups. If you want to really feel how it would be to be IN the matrix. Thats the server to go too.

If you want to just talk smack, pls pls, go to WOW, because I want people that can back up their talk. Not people that talk smack and stay blue. That would frustrate me to NO end.


Systematic chaos isnt a pvp Faction ive heard of the Furious angels also but thats not to say there any good,and as for Vector i put that second to recursion for Smacktalk im My honest opinion Vector is full of meatshields half of you wear Nike "Airs",you dont have to be on all 3 servers for your Faction to be Recognised and on Syntax it literally is Server VS Exploits - Cyph.

I have fought and played on All 3 servers and will still say Syntax is the best.

On a Sidenote: Didnt a syntaxian win the Vector Olympics? What what?

#36300332451 10/03/2007 07:58:43 Re:Server PvP Differences
ThHidden01 wrote:

I'm zion on rec, merv vec, and a whole host of things on shimtax, and personally all I see is Machines trying to compete with Zion jumpers. As for mervs they dont even fight here SMILEY" />

Biggest PvP: Mech

TH

I think a large part of this is due to the fact that the demographic has changed drastically on Syntax since the servers merged. The largest Merv factions that were really into PvP have all either suffered a mass exodus to other orgs or become inactive. (I'll even go as far as saying that there was actually a slightly larger Merv following than Mech at one point in time.) From my observation, the Mervs that are still around are usually bored and don't even play very long, much less stick around for hours to PvP anymore. The Merv org used to flag even when the odds were against them, but outside of the handful that still do now, they're just not around anymore or in other orgs

Another thing that always hurts the Merv org is in-fighting. I've seen the org pull together and turn things around, but I've also seen players and whole factions go at it with each other, which distracts from the focus in PvP, sadly.
#36300332464 10/03/2007 08:49:26 Re:Server PvP Differences
supremegonkage wrote:
Therinwhitten wrote:

I can see hyperjumping when you are outnumbered 5 to 1. I can even see someone avoiding IL because they fear you are in ateam and you might call a zerg. However. I have heard of Systematic Chaos throughout all the servers. I have heard about Furious Angels on other servers. But never have I heard about Foxlike, or Exploits at ALL on other servers as compared to those factions. I dont know them personally nor care too, but might want to check it out.

Also. I have seen some folks from recursion come to vector and a good majority of them are fairly good at pvp. Although you have exceptions to this rule. I have noticed they are alot better than alot that come from syntax. So based on my exp with it, I think that Recursion has people with a good sense of the system, and I agree with ROY. Vector to me is the ONLY server. The rest are warm ups. If you want to really feel how it would be to be IN the matrix. Thats the server to go too.

If you want to just talk smack, pls pls, go to WOW, because I want people that can back up their talk. Not people that talk smack and stay blue. That would frustrate me to NO end.


Systematic chaos isnt a pvp Faction ive heard of the Furious angels also but thats not to say there any good,and as for Vector i put that second to recursion for Smacktalk im My honest opinion Vector is full of meatshields half of you wear Nike "Airs",you dont have to be on all 3 servers for your Faction to be Recognised and on Syntax it literally is Server VS Exploits - Cyph.

I have fought and played on All 3 servers and will still say Syntax is the best.

On a Sidenote: Didnt a syntaxian win the Vector Olympics? What what?

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#36300332467 10/03/2007 08:57:31 Re:Server PvP Differences
When it comes to jumpers, L2ROOT.

That is all.
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#36300354390 11/16/2007 09:13:50 Re:Server PvP Differences
Syntax > All
#36300354461 11/16/2007 10:22:02 Re:Server PvP Differences
Sphairo wrote:
Syntax > All

Usually you have to back up claims with facts but... hey what do i know. If you say it's true then it must be... SMILEY
#36300354800 11/17/2007 03:44:36 Re:Server PvP Differences
The quality of PvP can be measured:

Airtime/Player * Time < 0.5

If this goes over 0.5, it means that the player has an airtime larger than being on ground. If it's below 0.1, it's all good.
#36300354809 11/17/2007 05:17:57 Re:Server PvP Differences
Syntax dominated the PvP on the QA server, And we host many of the best PvP'ers, Once you get to know how everyone PvP's you basically start picking who is best to go for first.

I've PvP'd on vector and i prefer Syntax's as you can choose wether you want to or not, on Vector you pick someone to fight only to get one of thier faction mates Hyper Sprinting round the corner to finish you off ^_^
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#36300354901 11/17/2007 10:42:40 Re:Server PvP Differences
I think that Syntax as far as general knowledge of the system and refinement of loads, is far beyond Vector just because of the fact that PvP is something that we have to pursue. When we want a fight, we make one - and when we get bored, we refine what we already know. We aren't flagged 24/7 so there's time to evaluate prior fights and sample from each organization. On Vector, the emphasis is on staying alive. Certain things like Hyperjumping around 24/7 are frowned upon on Syntax because it's always a 'choice' to fight opposed to trying to avoid conflict while you're trying to get something done - like on Vector.

I will concede that because of this truth, Vector's inhabitants are inherently better Hunters than people on Syntax. Vector is also much much more realistic as far as RPvP goes. I know that I personally love Vector's atmosphere, but I'm *CENSORED* glad that I came up on Linenoise - and later Syntax opposed to any other option.

And Recursion?

...nah. Just nah.
#36300354978 11/17/2007 13:48:45 Re:Server PvP Differences
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Sphairo wrote:
Syntax > All

Usually you have to back up claims with facts but... hey what do i know. If you say it's true then it must be... SMILEY

My opinion, (from having a 50 on both syntax and vector) and being a full time PVP'r, Syntax has the best PVP, the jumping, pilling, buffing, ganking is not as bad.  ^ Precisely what Mas said too. ^.^ Recursion PVP is terrible though, not as bad as vector.
#36300355002 11/17/2007 14:38:09 Re:Server PvP Differences
Mave wrote:
When it comes to jumpers, L2ROOT.

That is all.
SMILEY

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#36300355044 11/17/2007 16:00:11 Re:Server PvP Differences
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.

PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.


#36300355291 11/18/2007 10:10:56 Re:Server PvP Differences
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.


Zion only flag when they are the one that are 'Gunning down in large numbers', Or most of them anyway. I sometimes see a solo Sons of Libertier battling teh mervs. But nevertheless, It's good to join a PvP faction, as they are easily callable for aid. Which then starts a big war which can go on for hours. which = Best time on Syntax ^_^
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#36300355313 11/18/2007 11:11:39 Re:Server PvP Differences
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^

PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.



#36300355411 11/18/2007 14:17:38 Re:Server PvP Differences
Sphairo wrote:
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!
No arguement there. I'm still not going to the server. If i want to play on a PVE server i'll play my 50 thats on Recursion.

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 
You can still be found. If not today then tomorow. Half my buddy list is people i want to kill. I login and see that they are online and then decide if i want to hunt them. Chances of me ever doing that on a PVE are greatly diminished. Even you would have to agree on that.

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.
Alright that is your opinion. I won't argue with any of that as it won't get us anywhere.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^
I have been playing the game since launch. I know the ropes. I said my CODER loadout has MASTER SHADOW. Perhaps you should read before you make an idiotic statement. It's the easiest loadout you can do to stay safe till you can upload your coded items should the *poop* hit the fan. When i'm coding i'm not attempting to PVP btw. Granted you don't have to have master shadow but i do and i have yet to die coding with it loaded.


PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.
I'm not spending another second on Syntax. The server just isn't for me and as mentioned above if i want a PVE atmosphere i'll play my 50 on recursion. Anytime and all you need is one to flag is not really anytime. I flagged, get gunned down and wait till the other persons flag turns off. Where is the pvp there? You even admit it in point one above that zion will only flag if they have a large group. For now i'll stay on Vector-hostile where i don't have to put up with Blue attacks, rezzes, buffs and the like.


The above is for Sphairo.

And Tiango thanks for the advice on the PVP faction but I won't be on syntax anymore. I'll pursue my activities on Vector or if needed for some reason Recursion.
#36300355598 11/18/2007 22:02:45 Re:Server PvP Differences
*Sigh* All these people whining about Zion zergs, EVERY org zergs, get over it.

I made a lvl 50 alt of another org simply so that when Zion is zerging I can log onto him and keep PvPing without it being EZ mode.
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#36300355617 11/19/2007 00:16:59 Re:Server PvP Differences
Well, though I am not yet 50 on vector (level 40, sshhhooo excited XD) I can say that it is definitely more exhilirating and entertaining to come across random reds and just start goin' at it, especially to break up the monotony of missions.  I also find it enjoyable to hunt people down every now and then.  I'll attack people 10 levels higher simply for the fun of it knowing I'm gonna die...

However, when it comes to Vector it seems you kill one person the reaction is always so...bleh.  Either you get flack for killing someone, get ganked by the entire faction afterwards or end up chasing someone all over until they hardline...

As for Syntax, personally, no offense to spha or anything.  I'm just sick of the pvp there, no offense to my home server but something about flagging then being ganked by 6 MKT has just lost it's appeal.  Yet I keep grindin' away hoping some more people will join in and...yeah, i might get one or two of mine or another org to flag.  Besides that the pvp is ONLY at mara despite my efforts to spread pvp out by running around the whole city flagged.  Either that or you can go kill people in 01 and run into the downsides of pvp you get on vector all over again.  Also, like hanzyl mentioned the attacks from the blue...well not only is it unrealistic it's just more fun to be able to have a more active role in not getting pwnt by a sniper or MKT you can clearly see is going to attack you...

For the finer points of Syntax pvp, I've run into some of the best pvp'ers I think I'll ever meet there (I don't mean to start controversy but I do believe a decent amount of the heavy hitters on or that have had 50's on Vector call Syntax home).  Also, you gotta check out the massive pvp we used to have such as the 01 wars or back in the days of the Authority...now THAT was some epic pvp...

Call me bias either way but those are my thoughts laid out in detail...
#36300355708 11/19/2007 07:59:49 Re:Server PvP Differences
Tenshi wrote:
Well, though I am not yet 50 on vector (level 40, sshhhooo excited XD) I can say that it is definitely more exhilirating and entertaining to come across random reds and just start goin' at it, especially to break up the monotony of missions.  I also find it enjoyable to hunt people down every now and then.  I'll attack people 10 levels higher simply for the fun of it knowing I'm gonna die...

However, when it comes to Vector it seems you kill one person the reaction is always so...bleh.  Either you get flack for killing someone, get ganked by the entire faction afterwards or end up chasing someone all over until they hardline...

As for Syntax, personally, no offense to spha or anything.  I'm just sick of the pvp there, no offense to my home server but something about flagging then being ganked by 6 MKT has just lost it's appeal.  Yet I keep grindin' away hoping some more people will join in and...yeah, i might get one or two of mine or another org to flag.  Besides that the pvp is ONLY at mara despite my efforts to spread pvp out by running around the whole city flagged.  Either that or you can go kill people in 01 and run into the downsides of pvp you get on vector all over again.  Also, like hanzyl mentioned the attacks from the blue...well not only is it unrealistic it's just more fun to be able to have a more active role in not getting pwnt by a sniper or MKT you can clearly see is going to attack you...

For the finer points of Syntax pvp, I've run into some of the best pvp'ers I think I'll ever meet there (I don't mean to start controversy but I do believe a decent amount of the heavy hitters on or that have had 50's on Vector call Syntax home).  Also, you gotta check out the massive pvp we used to have such as the 01 wars or back in the days of the Authority...now THAT was some epic pvp...

Call me bias either way but those are my thoughts laid out in detail...
Vector < Syntax , all day every day.  I have a 50 on both and on Syntax you will find the best PvPers.
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#36300355715 11/19/2007 08:07:19 Re:Server PvP Differences
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Sphairo wrote:
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!
No arguement there. I'm still not going to the server. If i want to play on a PVE server i'll play my 50 thats on Recursion.
Okay ;)

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 
You can still be found. If not today then tomorow. Half my buddy list is people i want to kill. I login and see that they are online and then decide if i want to hunt them. Chances of me ever doing that on a PVE are greatly diminished. Even you would have to agree on that.
Not really.

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.
Alright that is your opinion. I won't argue with any of that as it won't get us anywhere.
It's more than opinion, ask anyone and they will tell you the same thing.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^
I have been playing the game since launch. I know the ropes. I said my CODER loadout has MASTER SHADOW. Perhaps you should read before you make an idiotic statement. It's the easiest loadout you can do to stay safe till you can upload your coded items should the *CENSORED* hit the fan. When i'm coding i'm not attempting to PVP btw. Granted you don't have to have master shadow but i do and i have yet to die coding with it loaded.
Go and code somewhere safe, out of view, that's what alot of people do when levelling up on vector.


PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.
I'm not spending another second on Syntax. The server just isn't for me and as mentioned above if i want a PVE atmosphere i'll play my 50 on recursion. Anytime and all you need is one to flag is not really anytime. I flagged, get gunned down and wait till the other persons flag turns off. Where is the pvp there? You even admit it in point one above that zion will only flag if they have a large group. For now i'll stay on Vector-hostile where i don't have to put up with Blue attacks, rezzes, buffs and the like.
Buffs, rezzes, and snipes will still happen on all servers, don't try to fob the 'blue card' off on me, because it doesn't wash.  A rez takes 4 secs to cast, buffs can be given anytime, and snipes will usually always happen when you LEAST EXPECT.  I'll rephrase my original statement, the majority of the time it is zion, but really, EVERY org likes to gank.   There is MUCH better, bigger PVP with players of HIGHER calliber on syntax than vector, hand's down.


The above is for Sphairo.

And Tiango thanks for the advice on the PVP faction but I won't be on syntax anymore. I'll pursue my activities on Vector or if needed for some reason Recursion.
lol, think I struck a nerve with this person. ^^
#36300355741 11/19/2007 09:05:32 Re:Server PvP Differences
Sphairo wrote:
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Sphairo wrote:
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Last time i was on syntax i decided i would never return. To many times i have been gunned down in large crowds to have not a single person come to my aid. Then the person who killed me stands there in the crowd till their flag times out with nothing ever happening. And i'm zion there so it's not like there is a shortage of help.
This part is true, zion do tend to only flag up if they have a large group helping them out.. when the tide turns, they give up. There's only a handfull who are the opposite, but most have converted to either machine or merovingian!
No arguement there. I'm still not going to the server. If i want to play on a PVE server i'll play my 50 thats on Recursion.
Okay SMILEY

Hunting is fun Marias. It's one of the reasons i prefer the vector atmosphere because you cannot be an *CENSORED* and then hide. Your actions however minuscule you think they are weight in on peoples opinions of you and because your pvp hot all the time this can adversely affect your game time.
What are you talking about? You can easily kill someone then either go into the loading area/jump hardlines and districts and/or go into sneak. 
You can still be found. If not today then tomorow. Half my buddy list is people i want to kill. I login and see that they are online and then decide if i want to hunt them. Chances of me ever doing that on a PVE are greatly diminished. Even you would have to agree on that.
Not really.

As for jumpers some people will jump, some won't I don't think it's a server thing but an individual thing. The formula is pretty funny though. I was on the QA server and although my memory isn't the greatest i don't recall anyone owning anything. The server war didn't materialize how most wanted as some wouldn't flip orgs how it was discussed. So while there was some people who joined server factions there were many who didn't.
It's more so a server wide thing, in my experiance FAR more players on vector have jumped and ran than on Syntax.  Yes, Syntax dealt there fair share of carnage on QA, as did the other servers, and some individuals who decided to stick with their org, but this was ONLY a few.
Alright that is your opinion. I won't argue with any of that as it won't get us anywhere.
It's more than opinion, ask anyone and they will tell you the same thing.

Vector you can evaluate prior fights and tweak loads just as well as any server. While your correct that staying alive is important on vector which is why most Coder loadouts or task orientated load outs have to have a level of survivability to them. For example my Coder loadout has Master Shadow in it. In the end this just adds to the experience and goes back to that important thing i mentioned before.... how people perceive you and how you are perceived. Granted some will gun for you all the time, others aren't so barbaric about it. And if someone does get you while coding well it just gives you someone to hunt now or at least someone you won't be so nice to down the road. Karma so to speak.
Just because your on a hostile server does not mean you need to have MASTER SHADOW in your load. Think you need to PVP a little more and learn the ropes. ^.^
I have been playing the game since launch. I know the ropes. I said my CODER loadout has MASTER SHADOW. Perhaps you should read before you make an idiotic statement. It's the easiest loadout you can do to stay safe till you can upload your coded items should the *CENSORED* hit the fan. When i'm coding i'm not attempting to PVP btw. Granted you don't have to have master shadow but i do and i have yet to die coding with it loaded.
Go and code somewhere safe, out of view, that's what alot of people do when levelling up on vector.


PVP on PVE servers is like an event. You get ready for it and go to it. PVP on vector is a lifestyle, it can happen anytime. Thats one reason why I prefer vector.
Wrong.  You should spend a little bit more time on Syntax (alot more, in fact) before you go making those kind of assumptions. PVP on Syntax happens ANY time, all you need is one to flag, then more join in.. before you know it, there's an entire war going on. Vector consists of lots of mini-spontaneous fights that don't really last that long.
I'm not spending another second on Syntax. The server just isn't for me and as mentioned above if i want a PVE atmosphere i'll play my 50 on recursion. Anytime and all you need is one to flag is not really anytime. I flagged, get gunned down and wait till the other persons flag turns off. Where is the pvp there? You even admit it in point one above that zion will only flag if they have a large group. For now i'll stay on Vector-hostile where i don't have to put up with Blue attacks, rezzes, buffs and the like.
Buffs, rezzes, and snipes will still happen on all servers, don't try to fob the 'blue card' off on me, because it doesn't wash.  A rez takes 4 secs to cast, buffs can be given anytime, and snipes will usually always happen when you LEAST EXPECT.  I'll rephrase my original statement, the majority of the time it is zion, but really, EVERY org likes to gank.   There is MUCH better, bigger PVP with players of HIGHER calliber on syntax than vector, hand's down.


The above is for Sphairo.

And Tiango thanks for the advice on the PVP faction but I won't be on syntax anymore. I'll pursue my activities on Vector or if needed for some reason Recursion.
lol, think I struck a nerve with this person. ^^
Someone is angry, duel Spha on Vector and see what happens.  Vector is a waste.  A server made up of 85% hjers.  All this Syntax/Recursion carebear crap is garbage.  Syntax > Vector handsdown.  Oh, didnt a certain Syntax player WIN your Vector Olympics? (HostileIntention)?? Stop crying on the forums and go back into sneak and punt some level 16s.
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#36300355798 11/19/2007 10:54:06 Re:Server PvP Differences
I'm not crying at all, Just having an open debate. I'm sorry if your not used to that ROLLTIDE or Sphairo. Just don't take it personally as it's not meant to be personal.

As for coding i do code someplace safe. The Master Shadow is just in case because an area that is safe may not remain safe.

I never made a comment about carebears. I just mentioned the blue attacks and such which is a valid point given the topic is Server PvP Differences and that is a big difference between the two servers. As for who is the better PvP server thats not what the topic is about so you can debate it elsewhere.

I agree to an extent that on all servers every org gets there time to gank or zerg.


#36300355825 11/19/2007 11:46:42 Re:Server PvP Differences
You can't say that one server would beat another, There are good players on all 3 servers that doesn't differ, also you can't say that just because 1 syntax player won the Vector Olympics that Syntax is the best server, because all it would take is a player to get a few consecutive state special hits and that player would be out, it's the whole point of randomness of the combat system.

Syntax PvP is usually large wars
Vector PvP is usually skirmishes

Vector > Syntax IMO because Vector has a more realistic combat feel to it.
#36300355831 11/19/2007 12:03:54 Re:Server PvP Differences
Denary wrote:
You can't say that one server would beat another, There are good players on all 3 servers that doesn't differ, also you can't say that just because 1 syntax player won the Vector Olympics that Syntax is the best server, because all it would take is a player to get a few consecutive state special hits and that player would be out, it's the whole point of randomness of the combat system.

Syntax PvP is usually large wars
Vector PvP is usually skirmishes

Vector > Syntax IMO because Vector has a more realistic combat feel to it.

Only when all 15 people that play on vector are logged in.
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