Shi+Xin+Feng wrote: Why do you choose to cling so fervently to the hope that mankind's greatest savior is dead? Better yet, if he were alive, would you not advocate his return to Zion? This connection with this Sarah Edmontons, tenuous as...
XiaoDian wrote: The question of "Batteries" really seems like it trying to drive this point home to all Red-Pills. What is the true purpose behind the Matrix? To keep us from hurting them, or hurting ourselves? (If they don't need us as a...
GamiSB wrote: However I stand by saying the with there only being roughly 600k potentials within the Matrix One percent of 6 billion is 60 million, not 600 thousand. Illyria
Roukan wrote: I understand the reasoning behind it too, but it still doesn't make it right. The hypocrasy here is astounding with Illyria's case. As someone stated before, killing Agents in self defense is a bad bad naughty move, but killi...
Pyraci wrote: Yep. So much for that. This is war, sweetie. The Colonel declared our interests illegitimate and is acting against us. We're rebelling. It's that simple. - Ezechiel Shall we assume, then, that any bluepill potential will auto...
r3spon5e wrote: To serve the Machines is to be a traitor to humanity and peace for all. That's all there is for you. Be a Machinist and know your place. Your opinion means nothing to me. Because it's people like you, with your fanaticism a...
Ghost wrote: One more for the cause. So much for giving new redpills the choice of which org to work for. (I guess Zion only values choice when it's the "right" choice.) Illyria
MetaLogic wrote: I wouldn't put it past the kiddies to try to bomb 01. Now note I said try to bomb it. It'll be funny to see the grounds near 01 littered with EPN hovercrafts. I would like to see that as well. Illyria
Neoteny wrote: Was it a statement that we may have expected them to terminate the Truce and attack us? Yeah, it was. Were we wrong to fear such a thing? After all, it's come true, hasn't it? It came true because Zion made it come true. You...
Crowlos wrote: Since when has Zion been the known aggressor, they never have been and fortifying themselves to strike, are you serious, like I said this is about them regaining control that they lost. Humanity has been a known aggressor ag...
Neoteny wrote: The Machines called a Pre-Emptive strike. They attacked before we did a thing, because they feared that we might develop technology with which to attack. You forget that the Machines haven't attacked Zion. Yet. Illyria
The analogy is sound; both Japan and Zion did something they knew would be construed as hostile by a foreign government. And of course human history should be brought up -- we don't exist in a vacuum with no knowledge of what our species h...
Crowlos wrote: Thank you Agent Gray for openly admitting the it was the machines who terminated the truce. Saying the Machines restarted the war on Zion by 'terminating' the truce was over is kind of like saying that the US started the war...
Neoteny wrote: Now, this suggests that they're going to do something to you once you've finished helping them decimate Zion. Something I'd be willing to bet you won't like - being overwritten, killed, hovercraft swarmed and destroyed by Ma...
Neoteny wrote: Anyhow, if I were a Machinist, I would be most concerned about this little statement: Now, why should we be concerned? I had always assumed we were monitored in some way. There has to be some kind of oversight, so that dange...
It's a shame that extractions are no longer permitted...hopefully they will be reinstated at some time in the future. But for now, Zion's free ride is over. As for the question of age at extraction, I've already suggested why Zion has trad...
Trust me, you do not want to see my most recent screenshots! (Naked crew picture, naked pvp, and other things that have scarred TC's more sensitive members for life...) Lyr
If you truly fight for humans "both inside and outside the Matrix", you will demonstrate this by not participating in the sick contest your liaison described tonight...you will not kill agents (for their tieclips), because by doing so you...
GoDGiVeR wrote: The information taken let's me safely assume that action will only be taken to subdue Zion and New Zion, not destroy them. As Gray said, action will only be taken to disable enemy HoverCrafts that are hostile. Since it's an...
Skill wrote: Okay, you've said that several times before and i still have no clue where you got that idea... Zion knew the Machines would view the construction and arming of New Zion as invalidating the truce. Yet they did it anyway, thus...
Pyraci wrote: The Machine knew that trying to make a couple of Zion's captains (Cryptos and Toorima) into puppets to control the population that rejects the Matrix, not to mention sabotaging and committing acts of terrorism against Zion is...
Illyria pushed her chair back and smiled. She'd finished reading the latest statement about the current situation...all the statements, actually, from everyone on every side. Speculations as to what would happen to Zion, the Machines' huma...
Neoteny wrote: If "undermining" the Truce by building a city, which actually has nothing to do with the conditions above breaks the Truce, I submit to you that it has broken for quite some time. Most of us did not know the specific terms o...
Croesus wrote: Hydrazine wrote: We would destroy all machines that know the difference between an enemy and an ally and take away control. We would figure out a way to take control over the Matrix and keep it alive until all humans are giv...
Neoteny wrote: You want to know what undermined the Truce? Paid sabotage, murder, and spying, all with the intent to both destroy Zion and its inhabitants, and prevent awakenings. I don't think the original intent was to destroy Zion and p...
Pyraci wrote: The idea is to look for a different way, and just because the machinists haven't thought of a way to straighten this without controlling Zion It's not our job to straighten this out. Let me repeat that for anyone who still do...
He said 'shut them down', not 'stop them'. And the genocide I was speaking of refers to the Machine race, not the bluepills...who, incidentally, will probably all die if the Machines and the Matrix are 'shut down'. Illyria
"We know what we have to do: shut the Machines down. That's the only way to be sure." So what you're saying is that you want to wipe out the Machine race? Just like our ancestors tried to do? All I can say -- aside from that your willingne...
Crossover wrote: Illyria22 wrote: The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging them to forgive you for doing something that your leaders *knew* would be construed as breaking the truce. If you want the truce...
Zion's leaders seem to know the terms of the truce, because they knew the Machines would look at what they'd done as breaking the truce. You might want to ask Niobe and Lock what the terms were. Illyria
Crossover wrote: If I were a machinist I would be preaching to the machines with all my heart to not retract the truce simply because Zion's protecting herself. The Machinists are not your keepers. We will not go to the Machines begging th...
We have now thankfully built a new city to defend ourselves, should be need it, for the machines could attack at any given moment... so many claim they wouldn't do that, they were wrong. I am suddenly reminded of David Koresh. His group al...
Words cannot express how utterly disappointed I am in Zion. Building up armaments, preparing for war, all while reaping the benefits of the truce so many of them are speaking out against now...much like Germany did between World Wars 1 and...
The humans lost the war. How else could the Matrix have been created, if the human race hadn't lost? How could Machines have 'enslaved' the winning side? Illyria
Don't work with terrorists that threaten the stability of the system and the bluepills who rely on it. It isn't really that difficult a concept. EPN threatens the stability of the Matrix, and with it the lives of more than 99% of the human...
Bring any teal pills you want, to trade or give away. Need a specific pill? Looking for someone to code that new ability? Decided to try out another tree? We'll have coders available for everyone. This is an open invitation to all, experie...
He seemed like a pretty straightforward guy, not the type to believe in prophecies or mysticism...he probably would have shrugged and said "it figures" when he found out the whole prophecy about the One was just part of the Machines' syste...
I agree with Cryptos's statement...don't trust those who claim to know. Belief is fine, but when it's at the expense of your common sense it becomes dangerous. If someone claims they know something beyond the shadow of a doubt, or if they'...