Vinia wrote: Pyraci wrote: Like I told Vinia, some Machinist think that the Machine will stop fighting us if we play nice, but there is no evidence that this is the case, and there is no word from the Machine that there is a clause for end...
Yep. I think in a version of one of the scripts for the first movie, Cypher was about 9? or so when he got out. I may be off though... What's interesting is if it is around the age of 16-17, it sounds like they stop around the time when hu...
While I have an itching suspicion that the Intruder's intentions really may not turn out to be in our interests as a whole and agree with some of that, I do have to reiterate that it is still a Machinist assumption that if we "prove" ourse...
Although my life is nowhere near as bad as it could be, or as bad as it is for some people I know, but there was a point when I began to question the reality and the authenticity of the world around me. I hold those questions to this day,...
Vinia wrote: Pyraci wrote: The Machine threatens us with a war, we fight back. Of course people are going to attempt to go on the offensive if you declare war on them. It's war, after all. It's silly to play dirty yet expect the enemy to p...
Vinia wrote: Pyraci wrote: If I remember correctly, that plan was thought up and put into place after this debacle started again. Is there any proof that the Machine let any of it's defenses down? And what "lightly defended Machine install...
Kybutra wrote: GamiSB wrote: Moral of the story: Don't get someone that sits in a chair all day and a fortune teller to make your treaties. Amen to that Vinia wrote: Pyraci wrote: I find it interesting that the Machine keeps it's city fort...
So few people replied to this thread because at the end of the day, the majority of this population sees the Merovingian org as a joke or insignificant because it isn't on a clear side of the fence in this war. That and the fact that the f...
Neoteny wrote: Illyria22 wrote: machete wrote: Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. And Zion's leadership doesn't? Maybe if they'd shared that they were buil...
Procurator wrote: I don't subscribe to that view. Well, the EPN-are-idiots one, maybe, but they are lead by Popper after all. Ah, but there are some Machinists that do fit the stereotype. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't true with some peopl...
Procurator wrote: Oh, look! Someone thinks we're mindless, obedient slaves! How original . Christ, man, this was brought up in the thread below this one. It's the most uninspired, tiresome and cliched line of attack there is, and we've cou...
That's all well and good for Machinist motivation, but the motives of the Machine aren't as valiant as they are made to be at times. Many people outside of the "righteous" league of Machinists see the Machine getting a problem in it's oper...
We all have our reasons for the sides that we take, but all-in-all, I think Tytanya has a point. I'll not question why people align with the Machine, but there are things the Machine do that are worth questioning, just like every other sid...
shinpseudo wrote: <3 <33 Procurator wrote: Heh, and someone else can do better, eh? The Intruder doesn't give a flying **** about anyone but himself, and can't be touched. *shrug* Irony, it seems.... that the Machine found someone it can't...
Vinia wrote: Procurator wrote: Shimada wrote: He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war? Aw, that's so cute. I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada ta...
Jack's Wasted Life wrote: Machinists cannot be held accountable for Cypherite actions and unless they are under direction from it, neither can the system. Im sorry wasnt there a revelation that Cryptos was being run by machines? o_O (+1 fo...
I see your point, hun. It is respectable and logical. I will say though, that Cryptos and the Cypherites also assumed that there was a process to go back because the Machine hinted at it and made it sound possible, but in the end they were...
Vinia wrote: xenin wrote: The Architect said no more Awakenings allowed, that would include the 1% who realise the Matrix isn't Real. And with all due respect, You and Proc spread Machine Propaganda all the time whenever you say The Machin...
Vinia wrote: I'm not saying that Zion doesn't have a purpose, I merely stated that the original purpose for which it was designed for has been removed. That purpose being the people who can wake bluepills. Machinists can do this, whether o...
I would be so quick to stereotype, actually. Pretty silly things come out of the mouths of people on all sides. But as to Vinia's suggestion, what happens when the circumstances aren't that simple to clean up or fix? There are things the M...
Vinia wrote: ShiXinFeng wrote: Zion exists because there must be a choice; without it, there is only the Matrix. Who are you to take our purpose away from us? Whilst I had to stifle a bout of laughter I can still answer this. The choice is...
Neoteny wrote: Pyraci wrote: It makes too much sense to put this war aside to take care of this situation, but we can always hope that they'll listen and realize it. It does? I mean, much as I hate to admit it, this guy is really all that'...
Yasamuu1 wrote: Pyraci wrote: Exactly. This is why it's time to get to planning, and as this guy is turning out to be a threat to all of us, maybe working together temporarily isn't such a bad idea. Somehow I imagine that won't be at the t...
Illyria22 wrote: Shadow-SK wrote: Do we really know what made Neo the One? The program inside him made him the One. The only question is when that program was put inside him -- was it always there, or was it 'downloaded' into him after Smi...
Exactly. This is why it's time to get to planning, and as this guy is turning out to be a threat to all of us, maybe working together temporarily isn't such a bad idea.
ChloeAnn wrote: I agree. We need to do something, and standing out isnt cutting it. That's why I don't listen to orders!! Unless Im asked nicely... Cute. But while everyone's talking about going out and taking a stand against this guy, do...
I have to side with Fen here. We learned a valuable lesson with the General in that we can't open ourselves up to someone that stands to gain more form us than we do of him, without having good reason or incentive to do so. We have to stop...
Back Together Again Suggested listening: Tool - Right in Two A few dozen people gathered out in what was left of the halls and bridges of Zion. The mass movement of bodies would have seemed like a vacuum, amid the silence, save for a few w...
odj wrote: Pyraci wrote: " /> I have the car chase, but that is still being used. " /> With the frozen foods van? " /> " /> Hell yeah with the frozen froods van! Oh... wait... shhh.... <_<
ChloeAnn wrote: Pyraci wrote: ChloeAnn wrote: Hah, wasnt I the one in the red, pyr? I so remember doing that =P Those look really good, very pretty. Yes that's you in those shots. I'm glad they came out really well. Well, I had a great coa...
ChloeAnn wrote: Hah, wasnt I the one in the red, pyr? I so remember doing that =P Those look really good, very pretty. Yes that's you in those shots. I'm glad they came out really well.
AltDimension wrote: I just read the prelude. And I thought it was amazing. You are very talanted. Thanks, man. I'm glad you like it. If I had the time I wanted to devote to finishing this, I'd probably be on the 3rd issue by now. (I planne...
Kybutra wrote: Haigen Looks Hawt, but Pyraci your looking kinda rough maybe you need some sleep? 9/10 Indeed. I may be open to suggestion. The font in Fara's sig is secks, just like the rest of the frames. 9.5/10
I'll not rate the image, but rather the use of it as both sig and avatar. Very clever, Spha. 9/10 **Edit** Careful. Telling people to leave Neo alone locks threads. 9/10
Lol Verb The topic wasn't spam and it did have merit as a legitimate thread. I guess when something gets reported enough times for it to be seen as a problem. You'd think a warning would have been given that it was going off-topic though b...
Ok, that's ridiculous and yes, very sad. Is there really that much of a need for us to try to make our personal character RP or fan-fic part of MxO canon? I think there's either a lack of understanding of what player RP really is in this s...
Yasamuu1 wrote: exsuscito wrote: Hmmm *strokes chin thoughtfully*. Don't think about it! There's a Sentience tag waiting for you " /> Indeed. You know you want it too.