[9.2.2] He's afraid we might want it too - Vector - 1/23/08

What are the name of Shimada's boots?

 If only there had been a few kill code bullets in Shimada's smg.  Your days are numbered, Systematica.

 For Keterina,

~ Hydrazine

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

The same way I expect nothing less from the Machine and it's Machinists to curse his presence here, then try to talk to him and play nice when their guns don't work. Failing miserably at both combat and diplomacy.

Pyraci wrote:

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

The same way I expect nothing less from the Machine and it's Machinists to curse his presence here, then try to talk to him and play nice when their guns don't work. Failing miserably at both combat and diplomacy.

Machines are cursing his presence everywhere; they just do whatever it takes to keep him from being pissed off. But it looks like Colt already ruined THAT, so...

ThePigeonKing wrote:

Pyraci wrote:

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

The same way I expect nothing less from the Machine and it's Machinists to curse his presence here, then try to talk to him and play nice when their guns don't work. Failing miserably at both combat and diplomacy.

Machines are cursing his presence everywhere; they just do whatever it takes to keep him from being pissed off. But it looks like Colt already ruined THAT, so...

I think we call that being someones *CENSORED*? And before you go blameing it all on Colt you might actully want to do yourself a favor and see what exactly was said to set him off.

GamiSB wrote:

ThePigeonKing wrote:

Pyraci wrote:

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

The same way I expect nothing less from the Machine and it's Machinists to curse his presence here, then try to talk to him and play nice when their guns don't work. Failing miserably at both combat and diplomacy.

Machines are cursing his presence everywhere; they just do whatever it takes to keep him from being pissed off. But it looks like Colt already ruined THAT, so...

I think we call that being someones *CENSORED*? And before you go blameing it all on Colt you might actully want to do yourself a favor and see what exactly was said to set him off.

I think we call it "covering our anus from the most ultimate being in and out of the Matrix we've encountered thus far so we don't get raped."

So your being his b1tch. Got it.

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Shimada wrote:

He is investigating something, but what? [...] Could it be something that would help us win this war?

Aw, that's so cute.

I expect nothing less from EPN. It is a nice surprise to see Shimada taking a more of a leading role lately by actually helping out her operatives rather than leaving it to Popper. Hopefully she'll soon take one risk too many...

The same way I expect nothing less from the Machine and it's Machinists to curse his presence here, then try to talk to him and play nice when their guns don't work. Failing miserably at both combat and diplomacy.

I'm actually enjoying his presence.

For now at least....

GamiSB wrote:

So your being his b1tch. Got it.

(And you're bypassing swear filters to get a point across about a game. Got it.)

Listen, I'm not the one being his *CENSORED*. I'm not a Machine, after all. I just understand where they're coming from. You're not exactly in the losing spot here if the Intruder decides to delete the Architect, so I doubt you'd really understand.

I understand perfectly its simply that the Machine rather then man up and face the guy, they are waiting on him hand a foot, all the while trying to keep playing the same game they played with Zion and its not working for them.

As the Merv puts it cause and effect. The Machine kept someone in the dark for so long he finally got tired of it and is strikeing back for haveing the cloth put over his eyes. Maybe next time they will think about this senerio before they go trying to control everyone again.

<3

Heh, and someone else can do better, eh? The Intruder doesn't give a flying **** about anyone but himself, and can't be touched.

*shrug* Irony, it seems.... that the Machine found someone it can't control like everyone and everything else(as Gami stated), and can't do anything about it.

Pyraci wrote:

*shrug* Irony, it seems.... that the Machine found someone it can't control like everyone and everything else(as Gami stated), and can't do anything about it.

How is that irony? It's just out of the ordinary, that's all.

ThePigeonKing wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

So your being his b1tch. Got it.

(And you're bypassing swear filters to get a point across about a game. Got it.)

Listen, I'm not the one being his *CENSORED*. I'm not a Machine, after all. I just understand where they're coming from. You're not exactly in the losing spot here if the Intruder decides to delete the Architect, so I doubt you'd really understand.

I understand perfectly its simply that the Machine rather then man up and face the guy, they are waiting on him hand a foot, all the while trying to keep playing the same game they played with Zion and its not working for them.

Agent Gray,

As requested, the RSI sample was successfully retrieved from the terrorist known as Shimada.  The RSI sample code will be uploaded to you for processing.  Please do not hesitate to assign further tasks for completion.

Efficiently,

Systematica
System Liaison Officer

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know.  Is this the thanks you get for serving the system?  Keeping your operatives in the dark, and throwing them bones now and again to keep them loyal.  Ah what beautiful lapdogs you guys have turned out to be.  I would say you machinists are probably worse than those lapdogs that serve the merovingian. 

Whose being holier than thou now, Machete? 

Last I checked, Machines weren't the only ones smoozing up to the Intruder.  At least we're doing it only to appease him so he doesn't wreck havoc on the system rather than hopelessly looking for another savior to your self-imposed dilemma with the Machines.

Its funny how the machinists love to throw their doctrine and holier than thou attitude around and they are the most hypocritical of all.  They try to kiss The Intruder's *CENSORED* and get what they can from him, and when he blows them off, they attack him for no reason but "to protect the system and the bluepills connected to it."

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know.  Is this the thanks you get for serving the system?  Keeping your operatives in the dark, and throwing them bones now and again to keep them loyal.  Ah what beautiful lapdogs you guys have turned out to be.  I would say you machinists are probably worse than those lapdogs that serve the merovingian. 

Oh, look! Someone thinks we're mindless, obedient slaves! How original.

Christ, man, this was brought up in the thread below this one. It's the most uninspired, tiresome and cliched line of attack there is, and we've countered it probably a thousand times by now.

I don't subscribe to that view. Well, the EPN-are-idiots one, maybe, but they are lead by Popper after all.

Ah, but there are some Machinists that do fit the stereotype. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't true with some people, after all. But yeah. I guess as long as some hold stereotypes, others are liable to hold their own against them.

Lets see.. Everyone who flamed me resides on OTHER server not Vector so your opinions don't matter here do they?

I was making my statements to those hypocrites who do one thing and say another (Vector Machines anyone?) , so if my comment stung you then I guess you are guilty too huh?

Raviola wrote:

What are the name of Shimada's boots?

"Michael" and "Karl."

>_>

<_<

What?

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. 

And Zion's leadership doesn't? 

Maybe if they'd shared that they were building New Zion -- that they were doing something they knew would cause the truce to collapse -- with their own people, the citizens of Zion might have had something to say about it.  They might have expressed their outrage that their leaders were knowingly going to break the truce and put them all in danger.  They might have wanted the truce to remain in place so it could be the first step on the path to true peace.  But no, Zion's leaders kept their people on a 'need to know' basis, and got themselves back into a war.

Illyria

machete wrote:

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. 

And Zion's leadership doesn't? 

Maybe if they'd shared that they were building New Zion -- that they were doing something they knew would cause the truce to collapse -- with their own people, the citizens of Zion might have had something to say about it.  They might have expressed their outrage that their leaders were knowingly going to break the truce and put them all in danger.  They might have wanted the truce to remain in place so it could be the first step on the path to true peace.  But no, Zion's leaders kept their people on a 'need to know' basis, and got themselves back into a war.

I think most of us would have said, "Oh, you're building a new city? That sounds like a good idea - with the Truce, we're going to need more space eventually for our new extracts. Oh, it's fortified? Well, with the Truce, they shouldn't be worried about needing to attack us, anyway, so that's no problem. I bet Zero One's fortified, too."

But the System's keeping quite a bit more from you folks. They know what he wants. Don't you think if you knew, you might be able to do your "job" better?

Illyria22 wrote:

machete wrote:

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. 

And Zion's leadership doesn't? 

Maybe if they'd shared that they were building New Zion -- that they were doing something they knew would cause the truce to collapse -- with their own people, the citizens of Zion might have had something to say about it.  They might have expressed their outrage that their leaders were knowingly going to break the truce and put them all in danger.  They might have wanted the truce to remain in place so it could be the first step on the path to true peace.  But no, Zion's leaders kept their people on a 'need to know' basis, and got themselves back into a war.

I think most of us would have said, "Oh, you're building a new city? That sounds like a good idea - with the Truce, we're going to need more space eventually for our new extracts. Oh, it's fortified? Well, with the Truce, they shouldn't be worried about needing to attack us, anyway, so that's no problem. I bet Zero One's fortified, too."

But the System's keeping quite a bit more from you folks. They know what he wants. Don't you think if you knew, you might be able to do your "job" better?

Illyria22 wrote:

machete wrote:

Last time I checked the system keeps their operatives on a need to know basis, and most times they don't need to know. 

And Zion's leadership doesn't? 

Maybe if they'd shared that they were building New Zion -- that they were doing something they knew would cause the truce to collapse -- with their own people, the citizens of Zion might have had something to say about it.  They might have expressed their outrage that their leaders were knowingly going to break the truce and put them all in danger.  They might have wanted the truce to remain in place so it could be the first step on the path to true peace.  But no, Zion's leaders kept their people on a 'need to know' basis, and got themselves back into a war.

I think most of us would have said, "Oh, you're building a new city? That sounds like a good idea - with the Truce, we're going to need more space eventually for our new extracts. Oh, it's fortified? Well, with the Truce, they shouldn't be worried about needing to attack us, anyway, so that's no problem. I bet Zero One's fortified, too."

But the System's keeping quite a bit more from you folks. They know what he wants. Don't you think if you knew, you might be able to do your "job" better?

I was going to reply but Neoteny did a good job in his.   There are MORE THAN A FEW things you guys are kept in the dark about.  Our leadership pretty much tells us everything save for the New Zion project, but for OBVIOUS reasons they couldn't because who knows how many sleeper cypherites were in Zion at the time.  I really doubt people in Zion would express "outrage", I would say it was more of a sigh of relief that we had a more secure location away from the guillotine that is the sentinel army above the city.  I would say you need to express your concerns over what you know and what you don't know to your handlers.  It would make for a better working relationship, don't you think?