Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

#34900008177 04/03/2006 13:19:59 Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I didn't realize that the EP server would be shut down after CR2.0 went live. Not that there was really that much unfinished business I had on it, but I'm just wondering if it'll be back up any time soon. It would certainly be useful to be able to delete the second copy of MxO from my hard drive, seeing as how I'm down to ~600 MB right now.

#34900008180 04/03/2006 18:07:01 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Would be good to use it as a dry run test for certian upcoming events too. Dont really need names of the spawns or titles put in the pics in the ads or whatever, just run the main mechanics and get feedback.

#34900008181 04/03/2006 18:30:04 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I was enjoying being able to test loadouts and attribute settings without needing to worry about my Info on live... guess that thought is gone... for now SMILEY

#34900008183 04/03/2006 19:24:42 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Agreed. The QA still has a lot of potential.
... That said, I'm not sure we've seen the last of it. SMILEY

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#34900008184 04/03/2006 22:03:00 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Always more stuff we can test in the future.

Perhaps things similair to pandoras boxes, new abilities, etc.

Sign me up for some testing =p

#34900008185 04/03/2006 22:24:42 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I hope they keep it up to test future hotfixes and patches on. Tell us what has or should have been fixed and let the community test the changes before releasing it on live.

#34900008186 04/04/2006 03:01:26 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Hopefully we will get it back soon, i got some really interesting things to test on it SMILEY

#34900008187 04/04/2006 04:50:06 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

EP was certainly a good place for cross-server meetings, I'd be sorry if it was down.

I mean ... after all these months wanting to do it I finally managed to kick Phanthom's arse SMILEY

#34900008188 04/04/2006 12:10:43 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

here here, I planned to live on it a lot of the time, assuming they added new things to it to test often

#34900008189 04/04/2006 16:02:54 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I am right now going to use the EP servers downtime as an excuse to delete it so I finally get enough space to play Oblivion that until now only have collected dust in a corner of my desk...

(hmm, usually it isnt a good omen when I write things like this, like in this case, I'm sure the server will go up as soon as I have deleted my installation... so in that case, enjoy! =P )

#34900008190 04/04/2006 16:25:12 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

For now its down. There are issues we would want/need to resolve before it can ever be reopenned. While these issues didn't affect CR 2.0 testing they definately could effect other content put on to the server. So with that for now its down until we have a major update for everyone to grind on.

#34900008192 04/04/2006 17:31:55 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Did ya'll break it with all the mass pwnage you did before CR2.0 went live? :smileyvery-happy::smileywink:

#34900008193 04/04/2006 18:29:01 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

NoRepro wrote:
For now its down. There are issues we would want/need to resolve before it can ever be reopenned. While these issues didn't affect CR 2.0 testing they definately could effect other content put on to the server. So with that for now its down until we have a major update for everyone to grind on.

$info duplicating??

#34900008194 04/04/2006 20:31:24 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

If exploits surrounding the /copychar feature was one of those major problems, couldn't you just disable that command and let us continue testing with the characters we already have?

#34900008195 04/05/2006 00:45:32 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

There is no need for it to be up right now,'cause there is nothing to test just yet. When there is something to test, i'm sure it will come back online.

#34900008196 04/05/2006 12:47:45 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Stack wrote:
If exploits surrounding the /copychar feature was one of those major problems, couldn't you just disable that command and let us continue testing with the characters we already have?

If fact no we couldn't do this it would be mightly unfair to anyone who didn't already have their character(s) copied over.

The info duping is a side effect of the copy process. The only real way to prevent this would be to make sure your info didn't transfer to the Test World. And then players would be forced to grind cash for testing. While grinding is valuable testing in certain cases it is rather tedious and we would want player's to focus on the testing we would need done not grinding missions to make cash.

#34900008197 04/05/2006 14:16:49 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Seeing as how money was given away to players to help them max out for proper testing, is it safe to assume it was item duping that was more of a problem?

And if it was, would it be possible to only copy a character and not their inventory but put in enough money to fully max out a lvl 50 with all abilities and a bit extra to recode clothes?

and why not open it back up and give a daily system message that shows the key things in need of work or bugs in need of reproduction?

and, true, there may not be any new content, you may not have a confidentiality plan for releasing criticals ( to keep spoilers to min), and there may not even be anything you think is worth testing....all right all right, i just miss QA

Message Edited by Davo on 04-05-200605:20 PM

#34900008198 04/05/2006 14:30:20 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Well, considering that the /copychar wasn't even an option at all for the old Beta QA server, I think it's enough already that some people have their characters on it. As long as you make an announcement giving people one last chance to copy their characters, I doubt anyone would complain too strongly about it. I think it's worse to shut it down completely :smileysad:

#34900008199 04/05/2006 16:40:14 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

The problem is again that issues need to be resolved before it will ever be reopenned again.

#34900008200 04/05/2006 23:46:41 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

NoRepro wrote:
The problem is again that issues need to be resolved before it will ever be reopenned again.

And this whole thing stemd (spelling?) from the assassin masks right?

#34900008201 04/06/2006 00:36:44 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I have a strange sense of "Deja Vu". The old 'Lith QA went down due to "something that needed fixing before it could ever be opened to players again." and now this one has too. Please don't tell me this is just the stock cookie cutter line for, "We took the QA server down because we don't think it's worth keeping open at this time." Because if that is the reason for taking it down, then just tell us as such. Honesty is far better than little "somethings" suddenly making things vanish with no proper explanation.

#34900008204 04/06/2006 09:03:19 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

NoRepro wrote:

Stack wrote:
If exploits surrounding the /copychar feature was one of those major problems, couldn't you just disable that command and let us continue testing with the characters we already have?

If fact no we couldn't do this it would be mightly unfair to anyone who didn't already have their character(s) copied over.
The info duping is a side effect of the copy process. The only real way to prevent this would be to make sure your info didn't transfer to the Test World. And then players would be forced to grind cash for testing. While grinding is valuable testing in certain cases it is rather tedious and we would want player's to focus on the testing we would need done not grinding missions to make cash.

Possible Solutions:
1) Extend the copying period of time. Make it 1 month, unless a CSR waives that time for the player (in cases of errors and other mishaps). Also, make it so that you only can have one character on the EP at a time. Such that people can't give money to their alts, copy them, and have their alts give out money.

It may not completely resolve the situation, but it would be a pain to work on playing a character in something like CR2, for a month, and have to lose all the modifications just because you were trying to dupe money on the EP

2) Perhaps add a flag to a characters (HasTransferred). If the character has been transferred to EP at least once, it will no longer transfer with info.

3) Wipe EP, copy the current live user DB over to EP, and make transfers in the future, not give money. If possible, during the process, giving all the faction bank money to the faction leader.

4) Make players copy over with no money, and when they arrive, give them a starter info $ (I.E, when a player arrives on test, they automatically have 5 million info, whether they had more, or less, on live servers).

Probably not the best ideas, but just some ideas I came up with given the problems.

#34900008205 04/06/2006 09:31:02 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Just wanted to derail this before it goes too far - the QA server is not down because of any issues with duping anything. There are some fairly serious technical issues with copying characters over and we really can't reopen the server until we get those issues taken care of, whether we fix the problem or disable copying of characters like Stack was saying.

I'm personally hoping that we do get it taken care of relatively soon, as there will be a couple of things coming down the pipe that would be great to test on there. SMILEY

#34900008206 04/06/2006 10:23:32 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog wrote:
I'm personally hoping that we do get it taken care of relatively soon, as there will be a couple of things coming down the pipe that would be great to test on there.

Any hints? :smileysurprised:

#34900008207 04/06/2006 11:07:57 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Zen Master? Citadel Coder? Hmm? Hmmmmm?!?!?

#34900008208 04/06/2006 11:22:27 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Mass... erm... Frogpwnage? :smileyvery-happy:

#34900008210 04/06/2006 15:55:47 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

IT was fun pwning the carebears, except for Aquatium, he's pretty good SMILEY

I think it's fun just to see and meet people from the other servers, oh ya, and the whole "testing" thing SMILEY

#34900008217 04/10/2006 10:52:23 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

symbea wrote:

Any hints? :smileysurprised:

You know I can't talk about future release questions!

*cough*orgspecificabilities*cough*

#34900008218 04/10/2006 10:54:35 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

AWESOME

#34900008219 04/10/2006 10:57:11 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Hmm... didn't quite catch that. Let me hear it in bullet time;

*coooough* org-----specific-----abilities *coooooooough*

Words cannot express my joy. You guys are the best.

Message Edited by Scirus on 04-10-200607:57 PM

#34900008220 04/10/2006 10:58:38 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Fantastic! Don't go getting yourself in trouble Frog. Future Release Question!:smileytongue::smileywink:

#34900008221 04/10/2006 11:04:29 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog wrote:

symbea wrote:

Any hints? :smileysurprised:
You know I can't talk about future release questions!

*cough*orgspecificabilities*cough*

*explodes with joy*

#34900008222 04/10/2006 11:13:58 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog wrote:

symbea wrote:

Any hints? :smileysurprised:
You know I can't talk about future release questions!

*cough*orgspecificabilities*cough*

HCFrog Uses Forum Shock 7.0
HCFrog Received +10,000 Forum CQ Points

Message Edited by Warboy090 on 04-10-200603:21 PM

#34900008223 04/10/2006 11:42:28 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

wow, thats a pretty fantastic idea!

#34900008224 04/10/2006 11:50:34 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Slam dunk post Frog, slam dunk.

#34900008225 04/10/2006 11:55:45 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog wrote:

symbea wrote:

Any hints? :smileysurprised:
You know I can't talk about future release questions!

*cough*orgspecificabilities*cough*

*stunned* :smileysurprised: .... ah no.... *rootet*

dave

#34900008226 04/10/2006 11:58:14 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog, if you need any suggestions on what sort of org-specific abilities we might need to see placed in-game, I suggest looking at this thread. We had some really good one's there, created by a fellow named Kidgil. SMILEY

#34900008227 04/10/2006 12:13:15 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

What about Org specific Items....

must have....earpiece....must...have....

:robotindifferent:

#34900008229 04/10/2006 13:23:50 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

HCFrog wrote:

symbea wrote:

Any hints? :smileysurprised:
You know I can't talk about future release questions!

*cough*orgspecificabilities*cough*

:smileysurprised: I think I just...well nevermind...:smileywink:

#34900008230 04/10/2006 14:16:26 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

zOMG HCFrog, have my e-babies?

#34900008231 04/10/2006 15:02:53 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

Sweet!!! Let us all hope the *cough*orgspecificabilities*cough* will be levelable, and that 50s will be granted with a great gift.

#34900008234 04/11/2006 01:24:10 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

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Ohh happpy daaay

If you are reading this my sig didn't work T_T

#34900008282 04/14/2006 16:55:30 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

i want morpheuses ground breaking hj having the cracks in the ground then vanishing that be sweet

#34900008303 04/19/2006 12:21:26 Re: Is the EP server ever going to be back up?

I heard you want ideas HC frog this main seem obvious, but the the
ability should be implement into awakened as thi won't ruin the layout
nor be dependant on other discipline, they can also be added in a
similiar way that the Mobious Code was of the Desprerartion was! CAn't
wait to see this in game great idea cough make Zion's Good cough SMILEY