Stuff being looked into for update 60

Not sure if this is where I should bring it up or not but... it was mentioned how low levels are a little afraid to go into datamine.  They need something to draw them there... more xp related.  How about increasing the xp given for data mining like you have the i$ on the nodes?  They want and neeeeeed xp... if they know they are 'able' to get a lot of xp in there... they will make the trip.

Wow, thank you for posting this Rarebit! Looking forward to the updates.

Also.. I sent you a pm, I would really like it if you had a chance to read it before tomorrow, cause its connected timewise to something.

I know few unbalances but something being spammed as a bug... what ya mean?

The Leo wrote:

phi wrote:

I like the idea of being able to use a rifle other than the "Victory" (It gives a very good chance of staggered, which is of course handy for Kung-Fu interlock)
It would be awesome if you could make an MA Enhanced (or sheilded... but enhanced is better) version of green-void glasses, other colours can be watever... but green needs to be MA. - As it is my beta pants provide nothing but sexy looks.

Maybe a lvl 50 beanie?

It all sounds good " />

The LESIG spawn tools sound good too. Obviously general release spawn tools = chaos at parties/hardlines a-la early pandora problems.

No more hats ktnx...
We still don't have any 1337 lvl 50 pants hint hint...

It's time for Seraph's jacket...

Very exciting, Rarebit! Thanks for keeping us informed!

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Secondly, anyone can organize a player event at any point in time, so "event coordinators" actually just means "the entire player base." And frankly, 75% (my own flawed estimate) of MxO's playerbase doesn't have a high enough level of creativity, maturity, or (most importantly) restraint to make appropriate use of a tool that spawns NPC's.

I totally love the idea of more enhanced level 50 guns!

But, I disagree with the thought that all the organizations need to be equalized in any way, whether by adding FM-1500 equivalents for the other 2 orgs, or what have you. In the Matrix and in the Real - Machines hold the power. The scales are completely unbalanced. Zion is the underdog and the Merovingian is neutral (playing off both sides for maximum self-benefit). Add Machine-aligned redpills, and the balance is tipped even more in favour of the machines. Fairness should have nothing to do with anything. The Matrix is SUPPOSED to be balanced in favour of the Machines. They made it, they run it.

Very exciting, Rarebit! Thanks for keeping us informed!

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Secondly, anyone can organize a player event at any point in time, so "event coordinators" actually just means "the entire player base." And frankly, 75% (my own flawed estimate) of MxO's playerbase doesn't have a high enough level of creativity, maturity, or (most importantly) restraint to make appropriate use of a tool that spawns NPC's.

- Complete level 50 Enhanced weapon variety
This is the one I'm least sure about being able to complete for the next update, but hopefully I'll be able to make Enhanced level 50 weapons for every standard non-silenced gun model type, dropping as random loot like the current ones do (I think?). Most of the gun models have never been available in level 50 Enhanced form, so people currently have a limited variety of top level gun styles to choose from, which is no fun. And here some of you probably thought that one mission redpill's "Grishev" comment was a joke. =p

So what exactly does that do to the FM-1500?

Just curious.  Just seems like it's kind of losing its effectiveness considering where it comes from.

But, I disagree with the thought that all the organizations need to be equalized in any way, whether by adding FM-1500 equivalents for the other 2 orgs, or what have you. In the Matrix and in the Real - Machines hold the power. The scales are completely unbalanced. Zion is the underdog and the Merovingian is neutral (playing off both sides for maximum self-benefit). Add Machine-aligned redpills, and the balance is tipped even more in favour of the machines. Fairness should have nothing to do with anything. The Matrix is SUPPOSED to be balanced in favour of the Machines. They made it, they run it.

Rarebit isn't adding the Org Abils because it takes the ideological choice out of what org you want to join, giving the machs an awesome rewards no one else can get is one huge reason why people could decide to join the Machs, at least they will get a reward that has better stats than anything you can naturally get ingame and they still get Perp rewards which everyone else get.

Yes it is about the experiances and not the rewards, but who wouldn't want to create a virus, have your name go down in MxO history as the one who helped find the Generals base in the real and have your name imortalised in Archives AND get a FM-1500 to boot?
The machines still hold the power, Zion is always pooped on from an enormus height, thats why we have had nearly a whole year of level 100 Agent Spawns.

So what exactly does that do to the FM-1500?

Just curious.  Just seems like it's kind of losing its effectiveness considering where it comes from.

Clearly, you haven't paid attention to LESIG's track record.

It's already been established that LESIG wasn't chosen on the grounds of who gives more effort to the community, which in all honesty, it should have been because if people put in effort then they deserve it. We can't even get LESIG to log in half of the time so who's to say some of them won't abuse these items as well?

There are other people who wish to be creative in this community as well, and it shouldn't be restricted to just a handful of community members. LESIG already get to be the only ones that plan events where story characters show up, now they get NPC spawns too? Really, what's the point of even trying to entertain your friends anymore. We've slowly been reduced to an audience watching a TV show.

And while we're on the subject of insulting, good job insulting the community in the second paragraph there. Much appreciated.

I'll be the first to happily admit that my comments about the LESIG are based solely on my own interactions with them, which have only ever been 100% enjoyable. Why? Because I'm not forcing my expectations on them and simply take what they offer at face value.

As for my comment about the community on the whole, it's just my opinion. I apologize if you found it offensive, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. No where have I ever found that to be more obvious than on these forums.

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Awesome. Sounds like you've got some primo stuff brewing there, Rare. I really like the idea of giving LESIG spawn tools, since I remember at the start of the war, 9mmfu spawning a bunch of agents on our Zion-EPN meeting, now we could have surprises like that which add to the experience without having to pull away from dev time. Enhanced level 50 weapons are, of course, awesome, and I think something that the community has wanted for a while now (I know I have) and the fact that they'll be in different styles is great. Datamine stuff's cool - new clothing is always great and the critical mission consumable sounds handy. Especially if you get an accumulation of those - it could really help you out in a live event (like, say, running out of IS a little too quickly while hacking puffballs) or in PvP.

Increasing the DPS of the Shadow moves... Well, that probably won't get them farmed any more, simply because it's so hard to do, and there's such little gained. I think if you got like... Five per drop or something, you'd see a lot more people farming them, because right now, assembling a team for one (two if you're lucky) pill(s) per kill (which generally takes a good several minutes)... It takes a very long time to get each person to 20 pills. We'd done this before and I'm pretty sure the most anyone on our team had after say... An hour or two was 5 pills. Don't get me wrong, the effects are cool and the damage is formidable (especially with the improvement) but it's just too much of a grind.

As far as releasing spawn tools to the general public, I'd say don't do it. It is enough of a liability giving them to LESIG (though a necessary one, in order to give them the power they need to successfully play their role). Proof that it would be used for disruption is present enough in Fen and Bindi's wedding where multiple players shot at people who were trying to rid the scene of a Smith'd agent who had been brought there for the purpose of disruption. Perhaps, as Archangel said, a requisition could be arranged, requiring a detailed explanation for the requisition of a consumable spawn tool, but even then, I'd be skeptical.

But if you're going to that it would be wicked cool if we could get consumable Code Bombs/Code Pulses too, through a similar requisition or something *wink wink, nudge nudge, point at sig*

Glad to hear about these improvements on the docket, though. I'll be looking forward to them.

Cervacius wrote:

Since when are you not allowed to interact with a liaison OOC?  You can interact with a liaison OOC, they just have to react to you IC.  Let's go with a scenario.

Player:  I'm having a meeting with the rest of the Machines this Saturday, can you make it?  ((Basically, I want you to come and at the end of the meeting spawn some Merv NPCs.  Is that cool?))
Liaison:  Sure, I'd be happy to come.

Problem solved. 

Cut out the middle man and just let players use the spawn tools. Lesig can barely be trusted to show up let alone spawn an NPC.

I've sort of ended up with a variety of things I've put on my plate for update 60. Hopefully I can get it all done, because for the update after that I kind of want to make another, very different construct. But that's getting quite a bit ahead of myself.

As far as releasing spawn tools to the general public, I'd say don't do it. It is enough of a liability giving them to LESIG (though a necessary one, in order to give them the power they need to successfully play their role). Proof that it would be used for disruption is present enough in Fen and Bindi's wedding where multiple players shot at people who were trying to rid the scene of a Smith'd agent who had been brought there for the purpose of disruption. Perhaps, as Archangel said, a requisition could be arranged, requiring a detailed explanation for the requisition of a consumable spawn tool, but even then, I'd be skeptical.

But if you're going to that it would be wicked cool if we could get consumable Code Bombs/Code Pulses too, through a similar requisition or something *wink wink, nudge nudge, point at sig*

Well how about some $i10-20 Million Mission Ticket (with the same Stat Hack Mission-type deals)to get that Spawn Tool, and It will spawn 1-3 (depending on Chevrons just like smithlings) spawns of 1 or 2 level higher per operatives.  Whatever XP/items you get from them wouldn't be enough to pay back that millions that stops it from being used as some XP/info sploitz. This is mere used as RP/ player event tools everyone can use.

Did someone say Requisition of Code Bombs/Pulses (shamelessplug )

Rarebit wrote:

- Special consumable for completing live critical missions
I've made a new consumable that will be given to everyone completing a current critical mission (not archived missions)--that would be starting with chapter 10.2, if this gets in for update 60. It gives +20% IS Regen for 20 minutes.

Question on this is that Does it stay with you even IF you die/re construct???

Well how about some $i10-20 Million Mission Ticket (with the same Stat Hack Mission-type deals)to get that Spawn Tool, and It will spawn 1-3 (depending on Chevrons just like smithlings) spawns of 1 or 2 level higher per operatives.  Whatever XP/items you get from them wouldn't be enough to pay back that millions that stops it from being used as some XP/info sploitz. This is mere used as RP/ player event tools everyone can use.

Did someone say Requisition of Code Bombs/Pulses (shamelessplug " width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15" />)

You're forgetting the stupid amount of money most people have. I, myself, have enough money to buy at least five of those, where a player event would likely necessitate two at the most. And, of course, there are plenty of people with stupid amounts of money and nothing to spend it on who are not at all interested in player events, but would love to just go around and mess a few up with that kind of offer. Not to mention, there could be some people trying to throw an event on a server they don't have a main character on, and thus could afford the cost. It's simply not an effective method of distribution, if there were to be one. That said, I still agree with the decision not to make this function fully public simply because of the amount of abuse it would see, and the lack of any real functioning way to implement a system which would put a halt on this abuse before it began.

Oh, and I don't think missioning for/buying code bombs/pulses would work, either... Those things lag the server like no tomorrow (at least they did the last time I saw them, when fake Morpheus the third set off oh, say 5, which is about one tenth the damage your average MxO player could cause). You'd have to go through a requisition system to get one of those, and even then, you'd only get one. A mission or something would be neat, but it'd either have to cost a ridiculous amount of money (I'm talking more than the org key - possibly over five times as much) or there would have to be some sort of significant restriction placed upon it which currently does not exist within the MxO system. Maybe hand them out as consumable live event rewards here and there in the future somehow? That seems the only way to control them, though, honestly, there's not a live event character out there who'd be open to giving those out since they're all hippies. Maybe Mikey'd give out a few pulses, though.

Tell me you're adding moar background for SSR your gum description has me hooked :O

Something i would like to see for update 60 and in the near future...

• Faction/crew PvP (claim another faction war, both have to agreed/accept the challenge and could be set for a periode of time like 5 day's)
• Organization guns, abilities, cloths etc.
• Faction/crew upgrades, so it's just not a name over your head. Today we have faction chat in the game....and that's it.
• Morpheus coat
• Male Ninja Mask

H'mm? Isn't there already an enhanced level 50 sniper rifle? I'm sure I've been using one. Couldn't say which type, though.

Actually, I believe there is two level 50 sniper rifles.

mantra777 wrote:

Well how about some $i10-20 Million Mission Ticket (with the same Stat Hack Mission-type deals)to get that Spawn Tool, and It will spawn 1-3 (depending on Chevrons just like smithlings) spawns of 1 or 2 level higher per operatives.  Whatever XP/items you get from them wouldn't be enough to pay back that millions that stops it from being used as some XP/info sploitz. This is mere used as RP/ player event tools everyone can use.

Did someone say Requisition of Code Bombs/Pulses (shamelessplug " width="15" height="15">" width="15" height="15">

You're forgetting the stupid amount of money most people have. I, myself, have enough money to buy at least five of those, where a player event would likely necessitate two at the most. And, of course, there are plenty of people with stupid amounts of money and nothing to spend it on who are not at all interested in player events, but would love to just go around and mess a few up with that kind of offer. Not to mention, there could be some people trying to throw an event on a server they don't have a main character on, and thus could afford the cost. It's simply not an effective method of distribution, if there were to be one. That said, I still agree with the decision not to make this function fully public simply because of the amount of abuse it would see, and the lack of any real functioning way to implement a system which would put a halt on this abuse before it began.

Oh, and I don't think missioning for/buying code bombs/pulses would work, either... Those things lag the server like no tomorrow (at least they did the last time I saw them, when fake Morpheus the third set off oh, say 5, which is about one tenth the damage your average MxO player could cause). You'd have to go through a requisition system to get one of those, and even then, you'd only get one. A mission or something would be neat, but it'd either have to cost a ridiculous amount of money (I'm talking more than the org key - possibly over five times as much) or there would have to be some sort of significant restriction placed upon it which currently does not exist within the MxO system. Maybe hand them out as consumable live event rewards here and there in the future somehow? That seems the only way to control them, though, honestly, there's not a live event character out there who'd be open to giving those out since they're all hippies. Maybe Mikey'd give out a few pulses, though.

well with such millions $i mission ticket, at least it also becomes a money sinker as well. So why should they waste their money for just such cool animation. Also i'm sure IF they used it as a way to Lag people oue we can just toggle the effects off.

I also wish that those SSR gums have 2% and 3% buffs as well from fighting level 53+ SSRs.

I also wish that those SSR gums have 2% and 3% buffs as well from fighting level 53+ SSRs.

Yes, that gum has terrible buffs, and to add insult to injury, they have debuffs!

Increase the buffs and if they dont have an effect, add a trail of Minty fresh breath while active ^^

What about giving LESIG the ability to org-lock buildings and make org broadcasts? Is that possible to do?

Those will be Admin commands and LESIG characters will be on normal accounts as it would be risky giving Admin accounts to players even if they have been vetted first.

I think it would be just as effective to have an /oc (Org chat channel) we can all use.

Spawn tools = Cool.

Spawn tools given to players = lol, you're kidding.

In SWG, the spawn tool works a lot differently than what I'm assuming Rarebit will be giving to the LESIG members. I honestly don't really like the idea of giving it to LESIG, not that it's because I don't trust them, it's just I don't want to be on the wrong end of the stick when one of the LESIG quits and goes spawn-crazy or something. Also, non-tradeable plox, but I'm sure that's what was going to be implemented anyways.

EDIT-

Also, just to go over a couple of things. I didn't catch the "approved" part, thanks for pointing that out AltDimension, so that makes me feel a little better.

And I have to say, even though it's taken some time for this to happen, but there's usually a liaison or two on all hours of the day, crossing all servers, so I really can't point out LESIG as being inactive anymore. A lot of people don't really understand that liaisons arn't going to just show up when you feel like it, you've got to go out there, send them a PM, send them an e-mail, and if that doesn't work, do it again. If that still doesn't work, you've got another or even another liaison to talk to, and hopefully at least one them logs on once or twice a week. I mean granted, 2 out of 45 (just off the top of my head, granted I know all positions are never filled) possible liaisons isn't that great of an odd, but it's better than it was. It could still be better, but the drama conflicting around LESIG is really great, and I can't really talk down on them when there are times when I just don't feel like logging on, or I don't really want to RP, or w/e. I used to really criticize those in LESIG, but now I can sort of see where they're coming from, and sometimes you just need to draw this line between what it could be, and what it is.

Also, inb4lesigdramaget.