[7.3.5] "When's the next cave rave?" - Syntax - 6/28/07

Pace cavorting with Veil?

Not acceptable.

... Not our fault.

Hmm the event post seems to be lacking in information. Anyway, was a fun event.

odj wrote:

Hmm the event post seems to be lacking in information. Anyway, was a fun event.

Obviously was secret info in many places.

((pissed off that I had to miss it; i was ingame up until 5 minutes before i had been told we would begin, and then had to leave to take care of something that could've been put off until later ))

What like the Cyphs stole data and Pace bought it back? Doesn't seem that secret to me.

odj wrote:

What like the Cyphs stole data and Pace bought it back? Doesn't seem that secret to me.

As far as I know it wasn't Machine data.

MotorZ wrote:

odj wrote:

Hmm the event post seems to be lacking in information. Anyway, was a fun event.

Obviously was secret info in many places.

((pissed off that I had to miss it; i was ingame up until 5 minutes before i had been told we would begin, and then had to leave to take care of something that could've been put off until later ))

What like the Cyphs stole data and Pace bought it back? Doesn't seem that secret to me.

Pace cavorting with Veil?

Not acceptable.

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

Madness? THIS IS MEGACITY!

*/punt*

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

Madness? THIS IS MEGACITY!

*/punt*

Wow.  That was great, seriously.  Haha.

You're going to have to give me a little while to think of a comeback.

I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not, but in case its not...

Thank you from Recursion's Friendly Neighborhood Cypherite.

It wasn't sarcasm, but who died and made you Spider-man?

Oh, maybe it was me, because...

SPOILER ALERT!

I turns out that I'm actually a ghost!

So, anwyay, did the Cypherites steal the something from Zion?

If so, I guess EPN will have to come in with full force and save the day.

Because with great power, comes great responsibility...

...to kick some Cypherite *CENSORED*!

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

No,
it were just a few MKT's using a Agent Disguise, who were caught up in the screens

Hah, ok, that's what I hoped it was.  I just assumed the worst.

After all, it's hard to be optimistic when we get crap for SAVING the Oracle.

Still, the Machines were dealing with the Cypherites, hell, they started the Cypherites, yet they refuse to recognize the ligitimacy of EPN.  I'm sensing some hipocracy here.

In my oppinion, this incident is more of a terrorist act than anything EPN has done.

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

It's actually the other way around, really.

HostileIntention wrote:

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

It's actually the other way around, really.

Shh you're telling to much

Xintax wrote:

HostileIntention wrote:

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

It's actually the other way around, really.

Shh you're telling to much

It's both ways. 'nuff said

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Xintax wrote:

HostileIntention wrote:

Signs wrote:

Agents helping Cypherites, what is this madness?

It's actually the other way around, really.

Shh you're telling to much

It's both ways. 'nuff said

What's really funny is that there's nothing you can do about it but sit back and whine.

## Broadcast Depth
## Incoming Transmission...
## Fuscienne // HvCFT Neo's Hope
## Relay Initialized - Operation Report 6/28

To: Michael and Shimada

Since intercepting the initial signal some nights ago, considerable plans were put in to place by our operatives upon receiving crucial intel that detailed a full plan of attack from the Cypherites. The meeting held on Tuesday evening, left us concluding that an attempt of counteraction would be set in motion for Thursday.

Two specialized surveillance teams were assigned to the task of tracking Alpha and Bravo teams, notably their leads, Haigen and Tranta in attempt to find out what they were after. A further briefing of the mission objectives took place in the Stamos Building shortly before both teams headed out.

Operatives, Shinpseudo, Gerik, Burbs, SEPET and ShiXinFeng, along with myself were assigned for team Alpha. And to Bravo team, Operatives Havocide, RetroX01, Phaydren, Kimri, Jac2k6son and Zimmermann. Upon both teams successfully locating our targets, and overhearing the intended location of their first attack from Veil herself, all other operatives were sent to South Vauxton. In the meantime our other team continued to pursue Tranta's whereabouts as the two became separated.

Fortunately Havocide and his team were able to make Tranta's team exiting the secure Zion area, alerting us to their true target that very night. Although a little late for us to do anything further we were able to give word to Zion of what had happened, seemingly it was all a cover to divert their attention, not ours.

A debriefing near the Wharf later that evening helped clarify on the situation a little, with Zion Liaison Officer Harkee also in attendance. The full extent of what data they obtained from Zion is still not known. Someone will have some explaining to do--that's for sure. If Zion can just let that sit, it's beyond me. At least with all our efforts and the second teams discovery, their ploy didn't achieve all it set out to do either, except on Zion's part.

~F

## End Transmission...
## Carrier Signal Lost....

## Broadcast Depth
## Incoming Transmission...
## Fuscienne // HvCFT Neo's Hope
## Relay Initialized - Operation Report 6/28

To: Michael and Shimada

Since intercepting the initial signal some nights ago, considerable plans were put in to place by our operatives upon receiving crucial intel that detailed a full plan of attack from the Cypherites. The meeting held on Tuesday evening, left us concluding that an attempt of counteraction would be set in motion for Thursday.

Two specialized surveillance teams were assigned to the task of tracking Alpha and Bravo teams, notably their leads, Haigen and Tranta in attempt to find out what they were after. A further briefing of the mission objectives took place in the Stamos Building shortly before both teams headed out.

Operatives, Shinpseudo, Gerik, Burbs, SEPET and ShiXinFeng, along with myself were assigned for team Alpha. And to Bravo team, Operatives Havocide, RetroX01, Phaydren, Kimri, Jac2k6son and Zimmermann. Upon both teams successfully locating our targets, and overhearing the intended location of their first attack from Veil herself, all other operatives were sent to South Vauxton. In the meantime our other team continued to pursue Tranta's whereabouts as the two became separated.

Fortunately Havocide and his team were able to make Tranta's team exiting the secure Zion area, alerting us to their true target that very night. Although a little late for us to do anything further we were able to give word to Zion of what had happened, seemingly it was all a cover to divert their attention, not ours.

A debriefing near the Wharf later that evening helped clarify on the situation a little, with Zion Liaison Officer Harkee also in attendance. The full extent of what data they obtained from Zion is still not known. Someone will have some explaining to do--that's for sure. If Zion can just let that sit, it's beyond me. At least with all our efforts and the second teams discovery, their ploy didn't achieve all it set out to do either, except on Zion's part.

~F

## End Transmission...
## Carrier Signal Lost....

odj wrote:

Hmm the event post seems to be lacking in information. Anyway, was a fun event.

Obviously was secret info in many places.

I am disappointed that EPN did not feel in a position to share information with Zion until after-the-fact. Fortunately, The Daniel Institute were able to ascertain some details prior to the incident, but no thanks to the E Plurubites.

From the report from Fuscienne it is apparent than significant amounts of planning went in to the EPN response; I congratulate them on their attempts to defend Zion's data. Such a task can hardly be regarded as extremism and seems quite appropriate for Zionite support.

Despite all their placatory words, Machinsits were a notable presence at the skirmish. Under such circumstances, Zion support might well have been of pivotal significance in "tipping the balance" in our favour.

The eventual purchase of the information by The Machines was a pointless attempt to place distance between themselves and the act itself, when their prior contribution is so obvious and happens which such regularity. I would suggest that their current working practice can be readily regarded as inefficient......

I am disappointed that EPN did not feel in a position to share information with Zion until after-the-fact. Fortunately, The Daniel Institute were able to ascertain some details prior to the incident, but no thanks to the E Plurubites.

Coro wrote:

I am disappointed that EPN did not feel in a position to share information with Zion until after-the-fact. Fortunately, The Daniel Institute were able to ascertain some details prior to the incident, but no thanks to the E Plurubites.

Reason for this being we didn't know they where targeting Zion. Since we got info they was targeting EPN. So really, we didn't have any need to tell you. As it was EPN issues. Untill we knew they was after Zion, which was too late then. So we then passed info to Harkee moment she jacked in.

((I completely understand Havo, no offence meant: Coro is looking for evidence to support an agenda.))

And this means that Zion sleeps before our Liaison arrives? Zion operatives were obviously in the area and actively seeking answers, yet no information was forth-coming. This matter was always likely to involve a defensive action: Zion would hardly have much sympathy for the aggressors in such a flash-point. The Cypherites had no such dilemma in securing Machinist support....

*sigh*

This gets worse and worse...

Havocide wrote:

Coro wrote:

I am disappointed that EPN did not feel in a position to share information with Zion until after-the-fact. Fortunately, The Daniel Institute were able to ascertain some details prior to the incident, but no thanks to the E Plurubites.

Reason for this being we didn't know they where targeting Zion. Since we got info they was targeting EPN. So really, we didn't have any need to tell you. As it was EPN issues. Untill we knew they was after Zion, which was too late then. So we then passed info to Harkee moment she jacked in.

((I completely understand Havo, no offence meant: Coro is looking for evidence to support an agenda.))

And this means that Zion sleeps before our Liaison arrives? Zion operatives were obviously in the area and actively seeking answers, yet no information was forth-coming. This matter was always likely to involve a defensive action: Zion would hardly have much sympathy for the aggressors in such a flash-point. The Cypherites had no such dilemma in securing Machinist support....

EPN ARE NOT ZION?

EPN ARE NOT ZION?

MotorZ wrote:

odj wrote:

Hmm the event post seems to be lacking in information. Anyway, was a fun event.

Obviously was secret info in many places.

    You realize there's never going to be a revised "disclosure" version of this post, right?  And due to the lack of players making logs, I doubt we'll ever have a full log of this.

   How do you people expect the storyline to be preserved for the future of it's not being preserved?

EPN ARE NOT ZION?

Well, yes and no.  We're Zion when it comes to the really big stuff, critical missions, fighting off large threats...  but when it comes to disputes between operatives, which this seems to be (although it does seem to be a very big one, not sure yet what the consequences will be), we do not belong to the Zion of Commander Lock because we have seperated ourselves from what we feel is his overly conservative policy.  At least that's the way I see it.

I hope very much though, that in the future, Zion and EPN can learn to work together, despite our differences, to insure that incidents like this one are avoided.

Bayamo wrote:

EPN ARE NOT ZION?

Well, yes and no.  We're Zion when it comes to the really big stuff, critical missions, fighting off large threats...  but when it comes to disputes between operatives, which this seems to be (although it does seem to be a very big one, not sure yet what the consequences will be), we do not belong to the Zion of Commander Lock because we have seperated ourselves from what we feel is his overly conservative policy.  At least that's the way I see it.

I hope very much though, that in the future, Zion and EPN can learn to work together, despite our differences, to insure that incidents like this one are avoided.

Coro wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Coro wrote:

I am disappointed that EPN did not feel in a position to share information with Zion until after-the-fact. Fortunately, The Daniel Institute were able to ascertain some details prior to the incident, but no thanks to the E Plurubites.

Reason for this being we didn't know they where targeting Zion. Since we got info they was targeting EPN. So really, we didn't have any need to tell you. As it was EPN issues. Untill we knew they was after Zion, which was too late then. So we then passed info to Harkee moment she jacked in.

((I completely understand Havo, no offence meant: Coro is looking for evidence to support an agenda.))

And this means that Zion sleeps before our Liaison arrives? Zion operatives were obviously in the area and actively seeking answers, yet no information was forth-coming. This matter was always likely to involve a defensive action: Zion would hardly have much sympathy for the aggressors in such a flash-point. The Cypherites had no such dilemma in securing Machinist support....

Surely your "data" should been held more tightly within the organisation of yours?

Last I knew, Zion wouldn't share information with EPN..so why would EPN have any reason to just tell you?

I believe you misconstrue the motive of my comments: There is a current disparity when comparing the EPN/Zion relationship to that of CYPH/Mech. I do not criticise the security protocols you have engaged, I highlight that it is simply in opposition to how readily the Cypherites acquire Machinist resources. We can use this matter as an opportunity, to revisit the imbalance which currently exisits.

Whilst I imagine Zion would not wish to be involved in offensive actions by EPN, I see no issue that we provide support in defensive incidents. This preserves the interests of both our organisations, and indirectly preserves the Truce; by maintaining the status quo. Similarly, Zion should reciprocate with information of similar relevance to EPN.

Of course, the other option is that Zion petitions The Machines and requires a directive to Mech operatives, that they do not support The Cypherites. The current situtaion implies that The Machines condone such support, and motions towards a breach of the Pact.

I criticise the difference which exists: Not the efforts of EPN in this matter. Zion owes you its thanks. I hope this clarifies my points.

**Closes the popcorn stand**

Signs wrote:

Bayamo wrote:

EPN ARE NOT ZION?

Well, yes and no.  We're Zion when it comes to the really big stuff, critical missions, fighting off large threats...  but when it comes to disputes between operatives, which this seems to be (although it does seem to be a very big one, not sure yet what the consequences will be), we do not belong to the Zion of Commander Lock because we have seperated ourselves from what we feel is his overly conservative policy.  At least that's the way I see it.

I hope very much though, that in the future, Zion and EPN can learn to work together, despite our differences, to insure that incidents like this one are avoided.

Do you have any idea how many Zion factions just ignore orders from Zion Command?  Hell, I'm a cypherite and apparently I know more about Zion than you do.