Community Question: Player Events Forum

#10300000086 08/23/2005 16:45:28 Community Question: Player Events Forum

So, as I'm trolling...er...moderating the worlds forums, I find myself moving a ton of threads to the Player Events forum. I personally like having a central resource for all player-hosted events for all servers. It is also much nicer to have an active Player Events forum rather than possibly diluting it by having separate ones for each world.

However, I also understand that it is much easier to post event notices in specific world forums so players know where the events are being held. Even if you forget to mention the world, players can identify it by the forum it's posted in.

So, here's my conundrum: Is it better to have a central location for all Player Events or better to have one for each World? If there is one for each world, is it better to have an individual forum in the Player Events section or in each World forum?

At the moment, I'm thinking it might be nice to divide the Player Events section into one forum for each world. It puts all the notices closer to the "front" of the forums for quick reference.

That's my 2$i. What about you?

#10300000087 08/23/2005 16:48:10 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

*CENSORED* dawg, there was nothing wrong with the old forums nice and not square

(w00t forst reply)

#10300000088 08/23/2005 16:49:39 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I like the idea of having one forum for the events, in the forum is 3 threads, one for each world. Make it so noone else can create threads on that specific area. Then inside the threads of the worlds they can submit there events they wish to host. Its a bit cleaner and we dont have to look at two differant events forums to see whats going on.

#10300000089 08/23/2005 16:50:36 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

bah, only muckin, i think both would b gd, have a forum for each one, but a enteral one ASWELL, so that you can share advice and discoverys you have made?

dunno, this is me, need more coffee

#10300000090 08/23/2005 17:04:05 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Re: Walrus

I vote to have an Events forum in the World Section.

Matter of fact why not do the best of both worlds.

Example

World1

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

World2

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

AND

An Events section which is simply the events forums

Events

--World1 (points to the above forum)

--World2 (points to the above forum)

w00t everyone is happy and is probably do-able with the BBS software you have access too.

Message Edited by TasteeWheat on 08-23-2005 08:04 PM

#10300000091 08/23/2005 17:11:42 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I'd like to see a Player Events forum for each of the Game Worlds.

I remember one time before the merge that I read of a Player Event on the main forums, got worked up and excited for it, and found out that it was only being held on Method(I was on Regression at the time).

#10300000092 08/23/2005 17:17:59 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Well if people aren't using the one we have now, what makes you think they will use 3 split versions? Meh, if you're going to split the board then put them in with the world forums now, so that they easily found by those who do know where the world forums are.

Personally, perhaps just some general (stickied) guidelines on how and where to post about player events is all that's needed...

#10300000093 08/23/2005 17:24:46 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Well it is not a good idea posting player events in a forum for all 3 worlds. I would like to have it where each world forum had a Player Events thread. I.E. Market Place, General Chat, Crew Recruitment threads.

I love seeing more of you on the forums. Just question Walrus, are there other moderators besides you? It could become exhausted.

#10300000094 08/23/2005 17:28:24 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I would like to see our PETs structure their subject line on their event posts with a (Vector) or a (Worldwide) to suggest which world their event is being held on. Many times I have not been paying attention and thought an event was being held on my server when in fine print it said another.

I like being able to see all of the events in one section though. A sticky on how-to post would be nice.

How about adding a field to the Post Form that asks which server the event is being held on. Then we could add a collumn which organizes the events by server and most recent post. I think that would help out tremendlessly.

#10300000095 08/23/2005 17:43:52 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Personally, I got a few ideas for ya Walrus.

First one would be to just make it in the posting requirements that the thread title include the server, for example...

[Recursion] Stewie Griffin's Sexy Party

The alternative to this could be to leave the player events up, because
sometimes people like to go to a party on another server, just to hang
out with their friends, and also make a player events section in each
server world. Although it would kind of suck, as there would end
up being 2 diff discussions about the event going on in 2 forums, and
end up to just more board space usage.

I personally like the first idea the most. Perhaps maybe make it
mandatory to post a link in the server forums, that points to the
overall event listing, and that all comment/discussion is going to be
in there.

Long story short, the only ways to do it are gonna spam the forums a
bit. I personally don't want to see the player events going to
just server only boards, means the events get a bit less hype
usually. Either way though, I think it'll be fine in the end.

#10300000096 08/23/2005 17:45:16 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Well I feel the Player Event section should be specific for each server as it takes a lot of the guess work out of know who/what/where an event is taking place.

But that said I feel the server sections should be open and on the front page and not 'closed', or if possible have the ability to open your own specific server so it displays all the time on the front.

#10300000097 08/23/2005 18:23:01 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Personally I prefer seeing the events announced to the world forum. I
only play in Syntax, and I'm not very interrested in seeing what the
other servers have planned. Like Tastee presented, I think a player
event sub forum in each world forum would be a better option.

#10300000098 08/23/2005 19:06:05 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Umm.. Got a little confused with the post, but w/e.

How the game world forums are, where you click on that link and are redirected to choose your world.. I think it should be the same like that, just with Player Events as the title...

:smileyhappy:

#10300000099 08/23/2005 19:22:39 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I like the idea of having a central "hub" to check that way I don't
have to keep checking others, however you bring up a good point walrus
that if you have one some events might get pushed out or I might get
real excited about something but then it'd be bad to only have it on
one world. Why not have both?

EX

Each have their own world player events

Main player events w/ stickie saying that this is only for multiple server wide events/finds/etc.

Moderation might still be not too great with that idea, but it might
help if we encourage people to put it in the right place. I know
I used to only check the general discussion but now that it's kinda
split up a bit... I like it ^^

#10300000100 08/23/2005 20:07:02 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I would like to congragulate anyone who can host a successful Event on Vector without being jumped.

It will never happen, no matter how hard you try.

#10300000101 08/23/2005 21:44:10 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I think that having a having a section for each worlds player events would be fine however I think that doing what has been done, leaving them and the stories in the general section for the game world is the best method. I personally dont visit that often the recruiting or marketplace forums that much but check back in the general section nearly every 10 minutes or will hit refresh every few minutes if im not in game.

#10300000102 08/23/2005 21:47:40 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I was a little peeved to go to the forum for the game world I play on, Syntax, and found all the recent player events and recent roleplay had been moved. I calmed down after a brief moment of *CENSORED*!?! and thought about things.

The events and roleplay were on the gameworld forums for a reason Walrus, namely, because they were concerning the players on that server. Now I guess it's pointless to post any RP (which sometimes have events to go with them) or player events (which are more often than not on Syntax to be RP related) on the gameworld forums and try to get people on those servers involved and stop the bleeding while we wait for LE to start up eh? I've watched a lot of people walk away from this game and I have a feeling that more will probably go now that all server specific RP has to be in a single forum with everyone elses RP. Now, when RP of one server gets mixed up with the RP of other servers, it will create confusion as people try to figure out which is what and where and tags will become horrendously long.

Of Forums and Brick walls. (The Next RP Chapter in the Saga of Killmajumbon00b for Syntax concerning the Cypherites of Syntax and not the Cypherites of any other server, nor is it related to the Tale of Killmajumbon00b which is occuring on blah blah blah... )

((Yes Dorothy, even when kinda mad/disappointed, I have a sense of humour.))

I suggested an rp forum before for each server, here and on the old boards, but I have a feeling nobody is listening or cares.

So yeah, make a forum on each game world for PE.

As for a RP forum for each server?

Maybe this time somebody will listen.

Make it a combo PE/RP forum if you want.

But this is the last time I make this suggestion.

:smileysad:

I'm too old and tired to keep hurling myself at a brick wall.

P.S. So where am I supposed to post a movie I've been working on for a week that is RP? The Next Renassaince? RSI forum? In my .. ahem ... ear? Seriously, where am I supposed to put it? I was going to put a link in RSI cause it's cool and also a link in Syntax to put it in the game world where it's actually relevant, but now I don't know what I'm supposed to do or where I'm supposed to put it ...

((Despair despair feel sorry for self have headache wonder why everything has to be difficult kicks cat gets clawed into a bloody mess by same cat throws cans at large grizzly bears and cougars gets smashed by a giant foot that comes out of the sky from nowhere accompanied by a farting sound omg omg omg the world is ending AAAAAAAHHHHHH))

/endmeltdown

#10300000103 08/23/2005 21:49:57 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I would like to have either a seperate section for each world or return it to the way it was before, in General. I never go to the recruiting or the marketplace sections, but enjoy easily reading and posting to threads that pertain to my world i. I don't like having to search over a million-billion other posts to find one from my friends and fellow Recursionites... or Recursioners.... or whatever.

#10300000104 08/23/2005 22:18:29 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Tefnutt wrote:
I would like to have either a seperate section for each world or return it to the way it was before, in General. I never go to the recruiting or the marketplace sections, but enjoy easily reading and posting to threads that pertain to my world
i. I don't like having to search over a million-billion other posts to
find one from my friends and fellow Recursionites... or
Recursioners.... or whatever.

i
agree with this, i like things the way they were, in general. i never
really look at the other sections of the forums, i have no reason to
and its very convienent to have it all in one place. (if you havnt
discoverd already, im lazy) plus i saw some threads that were moved
that IMO shouldnt have been moved cause they were just fine where they
were, but im not a mod. so yeah anyways, i agree with the above quote.

#10300000105 08/23/2005 23:32:41 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I think it would be efficent if there was an Events forum for each world. That way all the events for that world are organized and not cluttered up with the general posts. SMILEY

#10300000106 08/24/2005 00:17:26 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

TasteeWheat wrote:
Re: Walrus

I vote to have an Events forum in the World Section.

Matter of fact why not do the best of both worlds.

Example

World1

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

World2

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

AND

An Events section which is simply the events forums

Events

--World1 (points to the above forum)

--World2 (points to the above forum)

w00t everyone is happy and is probably do-able with the BBS software you have access too.
Message Edited by TasteeWheat on 08-23-2005 08:04 PM

This is the best idea I've seen regarding this issue... It seems to combine the best of both worlds (or all three, really).

- Void

#10300000107 08/24/2005 02:37:07 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Walrus wrote:

At the moment, I'm thinking it might be nice to divide the Player Events section into one forum for each world. It puts all the notices closer to the "front" of the forums for quick reference.

That's my 2$i. What about you?

This is fine but we would really like our stories to be seen by the members of our own world in our own world forum. Honestly, how many people would make a level 2 noob to participate in an event on another world?

We really like having our stories on our own world forum, as it does apply specifically to the gaming world and ongoing storyline of Recursion, not the entire matrix. Posting a story about a character in the general posting area of Recursion is not against the forum rules. It is about a player in Recursion. It is not trolling. They are well written and specific to the Matrix and Recursion.

We have always done this. Even when I first started playing and posting my stories in the general area so that the people I play with could see, I asked them if they minded. No one did. We have all encouraged our writers to continue to post their stories there. We would like to keep doing so, or to have specific "player event" forum in the same area as "Marketplace," "General," and "Recruiting" for each server.

Edit:

TasteeWheat wrote:

Re: Walrus

I vote to have an Events forum in the World Section.

Matter of fact why not do the best of both worlds.

Example

World1

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

World2

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

Ja what he said /\

Message Edited by Liliane on 08-24-2005 03:42 AM

#10300000109 08/24/2005 05:49:05 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

3 seperate player event forums would be a good idea.

On a slightly realted note, a seperate RP forum for each world. I went to check the Syntax forums earlier and found, to my horror, that all teh RP threads have been moved to the next renaissance forum.

I found it was much better haveing them in the Syntax forum as we actually know and interect with teh people that the RP threads are about, having them all in the NR forum makes it so much harder to keep track of evolving stories and trying to separate which threads are actually from syntax is time consuming.

So an RP forum for each world would be a good idea, either that or just leave those threads where they are.

#10300000110 08/24/2005 06:49:13 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I'm all for keeping things clean cut and easy to navigate, so I'm on
the band wagon of having a Player Events section and then a forum for
each world. I didn't really care for the old boards in that
respect, to much to keep track of, this option presents us with one
location on the front page of the community for us to access our events.

#10300000111 08/24/2005 07:06:25 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I agree that the RP and Players events sections should be sub-divisions of each player world. For ease of navigation and moderation for all. Also, since the merge, there are many persons on each server who are new to each other. Some are doing parties, RP events, etc. as a way to bring the old worlds into one.

Having to search through hundreds of posts to find ones that applies to your server is tedious and unnecessary. Any person from another server wishing to learn about the atmosphere on another can easily find that information as well, if the forums are separate.

The RP, player events and PVP postings are what brings a certain "atmosphere" to each playing ground. It will be a further confused mess (as it is now look at the Next Renaissance board) if it's not divided among worlds. It also assists us to learn one another as a community and keep current on what is going on daily. Please do not take away what we had left.

#10300000112 08/24/2005 07:38:10 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

*Applauds at Myztifyan*

those were the words i was looking for, lol.

#10300000113 08/24/2005 08:07:01 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I personally would just like to be able to click on the server level and see all threads not
divided. Its the one thing I really liked about the old
forums. I didn't have to go down to the "General Discussion"
level; I could click on Linenoise (or Syntax) and see all posts under
one list. Less clicking is good. But I
guess I'm odd like that.

#10300000114 08/24/2005 08:27:02 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I personally think that Events should not be branched under World forums, I would prefer people announce their events in the general world forum, as more people see it and participate. The percentage of people that would actually view the World Event forum, IMO, would be quite low, damaging turnout for player held events.

As far as RP is concerned, I feel that those threads very quickly get lost in the mess of the general forums because the people who really are interested may not have the time or even know to sort through the rest. I would like to see an RP forum that was world specific, however, our posters could take it upon themselves to identify what type of post it is in the subject line. Enforcing this would be difficult, I suppose, but it would look something like Lady Return's post:

Story: Fever Pitch

Everyone immediately knows it is a story. Same for events. The Hunt for Azyanna could read in the subject line:

Event: The Hunt for Azyanna

I know some people already mentioned this, but I"m just adding on to it. I just enjoy how our world forums are all about us and our players, if that means events and RP too, I'm all for that as well.

#10300000115 08/24/2005 09:47:26 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

how about 1 forum to go along with a player events server that you can jack your main char into ala construct.

#10300000116 08/24/2005 10:38:59 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I think it would be better to have a forum specific to each world for events, but also have the main central Player Events forum like we do now.

Jeffers

#10300000117 08/24/2005 10:43:24 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Walrus,

First, thank you for moving my thread about Club Unit T in the Player
Events forum. Due to the forum structure itself, I was caught in bind
thinking to myself that in order to get maximum coverage, I need to
post in two different places. I, actually, do prefer to have one post
to keep updated and that means less work for me.

Now, in terms of a restructure, I actually agree with TasteeWheats's
comments below. This would make the most sense to me and would only
affect a group that is putting on an event across multiple server
worlds (more rare than regularly run player events).

So, given this suggestion there is where my vote lies. I was wondering
if you could delete the Club Unit T post that had the smaller number of
responses (only Cirga) and we can keep the one that has 3 responses on
it so far. We won't lose any information that way.

my thoughts,

-MM

TasteeWheat wrote:
Re: Walrus

I vote to have an Events forum in the World Section.

Matter of fact why not do the best of both worlds.

Example

World1

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

World2

--General

--Markeplace

--Recruiting

--Events

AND

An Events section which is simply the events forums

Events

--World1 (points to the above forum)

--World2 (points to the above forum)

w00t everyone is happy and is probably do-able with the BBS software you have access too.
Message Edited by TasteeWheat on 08-23-2005 08:04 PM

#10300000118 08/24/2005 10:54:13 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Yes, most of the events that I do are mostly always for my server, and
even the stories that I write also only apply to my server, so most of
my things end up falling into the general server discussion area of
Recursion. I think that possibly an area for the events, and even
stories specific to a server should be created in the server area, then
more people will probably read them. Sure, it wil lbe a little
bit more of a pain if people are doing cross-server events, but,
posting twice or three times is really no harm.

In conclusion, I agree with TasteeWheat's idea. It will probably work out better in the long run.

#10300000119 08/24/2005 14:02:32 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

One for each world would be awesome, Walrus!

#10300000120 08/24/2005 14:42:51 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

It would be best to add a 4th section to each game world. A "Role
Play/Events" forum. This would be a central location for each server to
post our stories, and events. It would be more accessible to the people
of the server. In reality, most of the people in our server forums
don't even go outside of them. It's not like this would be a huge
bandwidth killer or inconvenience in any way.

#10300000172 08/24/2005 19:24:32 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Walrus wrote:

So, as I'm trolling...er...moderating the worlds forums, I find myself moving a ton of threads to the Player Events forum. I personally like having a central resource for all player-hosted events for all servers. It is also much nicer to have an active Player Events forum rather than possibly diluting it by having separate ones for each world.

However, I also understand that it is much easier to post event notices in specific world forums so players know where the events are being held. Even if you forget to mention the world, players can identify it by the forum it's posted in.

So, here's my conundrum: Is it better to have a central location for all Player Events or better to have one for each World? If there is one for each world, is it better to have an individual forum in the Player Events section or in each World forum?

At the moment, I'm thinking it might be nice to divide the Player Events section into one forum for each world. It puts all the notices closer to the "front" of the forums for quick reference.

That's my 2$i. What about you?

Not sure if it's been said, at this point because I haven't read all the responses, but create individual boards, but have all posts created in there automatically be posted in a central location as well. That way it's one central place, and for the players that are looking for a specific server, they won't have to sort through everything.

#10300000176 08/24/2005 19:36:42 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Not really my cup of tea, but I'm thinking if there's a large enough demand for this segment of the webpage. Shouldn't it have it's own section on the side menu? Perhaps, some type of entry form with Name, Date, World, Clan, Faction, etc.

If the demand is small, keep it World specific.

The personal touch always has its advantages though.

#10300000178 08/24/2005 19:41:57 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Heaven and Hell are right here, behind every wall, every face -- the world behind the world.

did u just quote of the movie constantene

Message Edited by SpikeDX on 08-24-2005 08:43 PM

#10300000223 08/25/2005 12:02:54 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

So Walrus did you make your choice yet on how threads will be moved in the future? Reason I ask is that you havent replied back to this thread.

#10300000225 08/25/2005 13:07:26 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

It looks like a lot of folks would like separate Event forums for each world and also, it seems, an RP/Storytelling section. I apologize if I misappropriated anyone's stories, but I think this thread also points out the same conundrum there.

I'm still getting used to the tools available on these new forums, so I'm not sure if an automatic posting option is available (i.e., someone posts one place and a copy is made in another). I'll have to look into that (among other things).

What I'm getting now is a majority of folks responding would like to see something like:

World 1:
-Recruiting
-Marketplace
-General
-Events
-RP

And some folks would also like there to be a central resource as well. As I mentioned above, I don't know that I can set up any kind of auto-posting here. But if we keep a central location and add the world-specific forums, it would be up to the poster to put the information in both places.

#10300000231 08/25/2005 16:03:49 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I am not sure if we really require seperate RP/Event forums, as they usually go hand in hand, in my experience.

#10300000242 08/26/2005 08:43:51 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Very cool..Thanks Walrus...I know your busting away.....and I
appreciate what you have done...especially acknowledging the fact we
would like a separate forum with our server for RP
stories/events. SMILEY

#10300000244 08/26/2005 10:08:52 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Walrus wrote:

......

And some folks would also like there to be a central resource as well. As I mentioned above, I don't know that I can set up any kind of auto-posting here. But if we keep a central location and add the world-specific forums, it would be up to the poster to put the information in both places.

If you can't do "auto posting" what about a "pointer" to the individual world event thread?

#10300000247 08/26/2005 11:10:51 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I think the "player events" section should be in the community section

1. Player Events - Vector

2. Player Events - Recursion

3. Player Events - Syntax

-There are 10 types of people in this world.....those that know binary, and those that dont.

#10300000251 08/26/2005 14:10:22 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Liliane wrote:
I am not sure if we really require seperate RP/Event forums, as they usually go hand in hand, in my experience.

I
must respectfully disagree. The Club Unit T events do not have any RP
elements to it and there are many ad hoc parties that happen that do
not have anything to do with the story line or an RP event. That being
said an Event that has RP elements should be posted in the Events forum
so that it gets the attention it deservers. Putting it inside the RP
forum may lose in the the cloud other, non-event RP threads that may
exist.

I think it's best to have seperate forums so those things do not clutter each other.

My thoughts,

-MM

#10300000252 08/26/2005 18:23:24 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

I am not sure if we really require seperate RP/Event forums, as they usually go hand in hand, in my experience.

From my time on linenoise/syntax I'd have to disagree with that too. RP does not always equal event and event certainly doesn't always equal RP. They are two different entities that cater for two different play styles. While there can be some cross over, there often isn't. No, they need there own seperate sections.

#10300000258 08/27/2005 16:40:29 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Seperate Event and RP forums would do the trick, but as also suggested many times, leaving them in General would work too. The General gets the most reads because more people read just the Generals.

My 2 pennies... again.

#10300000282 08/30/2005 21:10:08 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Walrus wrote:

It looks like a lot of folks would like separate Event forums for each world and also, it seems, an RP/Storytelling section. I apologize if I misappropriated anyone's stories, but I think this thread also points out the same conundrum there.

I'm still getting used to the tools available on these new forums, so I'm not sure if an automatic posting option is available (i.e., someone posts one place and a copy is made in another). I'll have to look into that (among other things).

What I'm getting now is a majority of folks responding would like to see something like:

World 1:
-Recruiting
-Marketplace
-General
-Events
-RP

And some folks would also like there to be a central resource as well. As I mentioned above, I don't know that I can set up any kind of auto-posting here. But if we keep a central location and add the world-specific forums, it would be up to the poster to put the information in both places.

I tend to favor keeping policies general as possible until demand forces otherwise. Once you specialize, you can't ever go back to general again. It breds ill-will. Another suggestion, coordinate these forum changes with a red-letter date and a warning.

#10300002233 02/10/2006 10:43:32 Re: Community Question: Player Events Forum

Didnt really know where to post this but was just wondering, Exis got banned a while back now and he's sent a number of emails explaining what happened and apologising. Can one of the vector admins please look into this as hes told me that noone has replyed to his mails. Thanks