50 posts · 2009-03-18 08:32:27 to 2009-06-11 07:32:59
If MxO is now permanantly D.I.Y. with no more content then might as well unlock the masks, maybe starting with the patch that removes the Anniversary event in early April.
Edit: We can always relock them if by some miracle we get a dev and we resume content. I think this would be a nice way to reward us with our patience for sticking through the hard times in the meantime.
Second.
Not a bad idea but what will there be to look forward to if MXO makes it to Holloween 2009? I just don't see this as a good idea at this point in time.
Never happen... Not unless its a holiday.
You know I'm right
Thirded! I have some ideas for them...
It's not going to save the game, but it can't hurt it too badly. The novelty of a holiday item will be lost, but that costs us ... [calculates] ... two days during the beginnning of the halloween event where these masks are cool again. After that 2 days, it wears off for me and lots of people that I know/ talk to.
Agreed.
Absolutely.. even if there is no Ookami mask (yet?)... /cry
Assuming we can get a new dev before Halloween (or just have 9mm do it), we can always have new masks made available during Halloween. If that was done, it would be a lot like the other Holiday events. Stuff you can only collect during a certain period of time but that, once collected, can be used year round. This could also create more of a desire to collect the lesser used/wanted masks as you could at the very least buy/sell/trade them year round or use them for events. Suddenly that stack of 20 Ethereals isn't quite as useless (sort of, anyway).
It's been a month since Rarebits left. OMGZMXOISDEADBLAHBLAHBLAH
No they should leave it the way it is.
At the 6month mark without a dev then we can talk about unlocking everything and going apesh*t.
SampleNow wrote:
At the 6month mark without a dev then we can talk about unlocking everything and going apesh*t.
I can't imagine enough people still playing this game in July to even keep it running.
LAWL NM, this forum....
letsrock wrote:
Not a bad idea but what will there be to look forward to if MXO makes it to Holloween 2009? I just don't see this as a good idea at this point in time.
Halloween = Zombies, just like Anniversary = Smiths. Honestly, my old stance of not liking the fact we have we actually have RSI masks of main characters still stands but since we have them and there is no more story but that which we make ourselves, why not let us have access to all of them anyway?
Croesis wrote:
letsrock wrote:
Not a bad idea but what will there be to look forward to if MXO makes it to Holloween 2009? I just don't see this as a good idea at this point in time.
Halloween = Zombies, just like Anniversary = Smiths. Honestly, my old stance of not liking the fact we have we actually have RSI masks of main characters still stands but since we have them and there is no more story but that which we make ourselves, why not let us have access to all of them anyway?
I concur 100%. If things went back to normal and we actually got our own dev, and we actually got new content, and we actually got a new or resumed official storyline, we can re-lock the masks again, and return Halloween masks to their own special specialness.
We have no dynamic, interactive storyline content anymore, and allowing the masks would be much less abusable than say storyteller tools and/or allowing certain players to spawn npcs. After all Rarebit and Walrus have both said "The story in in your hands now." I mean, we do have a ton of new RSI captures anyways, just this makes it more consistent (like...you can be Lupin but not Ethereal 1....You can be Jezebeth but not a Succubus....you can be Captain Raeder/Danielle Smith/Elite Commado Leader but you cant be Tengu/Gargy/TM....it doesn't make too much sense to me).
I think it would be a nice gesture to the MxO community, and it wouldn't require barely any effort, or the creation of a single new ingame item.
Unlock the masks. Easy, breezy.
I agree with the idea of consistency in the hideout bosses/PBs etc, though I'm not so sure about everyone being able to mince around as Veil, Merv and similar.
The snag is that players may well have farmed numerous halloween masks already and we risk a flood on the marketplace were they to be simply enabled for use. Instead, it would probably be better to create a new version of each mask, which is dropped by the NPCs following the update.
Coro wrote:
I agree with the idea of consistency in the hideout bosses/PBs etc, though I'm not so sure about everyone being able to mince around as Veil, Merv and similar.
The snag is that players may well have farmed numerous halloween masks already and we risk a flood on the marketplace were they to be simply enabled for use. Instead, it would probably be better to create a new version of each mask, which is dropped by the NPCs following the update.
I dunno about that, although I do see the point of not unlocking the 2008 masks (ie. not unlocking masks that represent main storyline characters). I also think that unlocking those masks will be the path of least resistance for the devs, since as far as we know they will no longer be providing any more content...but I was thinking this could be a way around that by unlocking already existing content.
I think they should definitely unlock the first masks since they comprised mostly of just scary exile programs. The rest should be left as they are. For now.
Coro wrote:
I agree with the idea of consistency in the hideout bosses/PBs etc, though I'm not so sure about everyone being able to mince around as Veil, Merv and similar.
The snag is that players may well have farmed numerous halloween masks already and we risk a flood on the marketplace were they to be simply enabled for use. Instead, it would probably be better to create a new version of each mask, which is dropped by the NPCs following the update.
But wouldn't making a new version of each mask diminish the "specialness" of the actual Halloween masks? To run around as Merv/Veil/Oracle etc. on a daily basis would seem a bit weird from an RP standpoint but it wouldn't hurt the game any. But if it does then why not just unlock the more "discreet" masks such as Tengu, TM, etc. and leave the Merv's and Seraph's locked except for Halloween?
Akunin wrote:
Coro wrote:
I agree with the idea of consistency in the hideout bosses/PBs etc, though I'm not so sure about everyone being able to mince around as Veil, Merv and similar.
The snag is that players may well have farmed numerous halloween masks already and we risk a flood on the marketplace were they to be simply enabled for use. Instead, it would probably be better to create a new version of each mask, which is dropped by the NPCs following the update.
But wouldn't making a new version of each mask diminish the "specialness" of the actual Halloween masks? To run around as Merv/Veil/Oracle etc. on a daily basis would seem a bit weird from an RP standpoint but it wouldn't hurt the game any. But if it does then why not just unlock the more "discreet" masks such as Tengu, TM, etc. and leave the Merv's and Seraph's locked except for Halloween?
Right, I'm all about consistancy....like, you can be Lupin but not Ethereal 1....You can be Jezebeth but not a Succubus....you can be Captain Raeder/Danielle Smith/Elite Commado Leader but you cant be Tengu/Gargy/Taskmaster, you can be Ko but you can't be Dr. Extractia. I support leveling the playing field in this manner. And I'm not worried about the Marketplace, it might actually spur some more activity. Lastly as I've said before it won't require more than the tiniest amount of dev work since no actual ingame items are created.
Akunin wrote:
Coro wrote:
I agree with the idea of consistency in the hideout bosses/PBs etc, though I'm not so sure about everyone being able to mince around as Veil, Merv and similar.
The snag is that players may well have farmed numerous halloween masks already and we risk a flood on the marketplace were they to be simply enabled for use. Instead, it would probably be better to create a new version of each mask, which is dropped by the NPCs following the update.
But wouldn't making a new version of each mask diminish the "specialness" of the actual Halloween masks? To run around as Merv/Veil/Oracle etc. on a daily basis would seem a bit weird from an RP standpoint but it wouldn't hurt the game any. But if it does then why not just unlock the more "discreet" masks such as Tengu, TM, etc. and leave the Merv's and Seraph's locked except for Halloween?
I personally see nothing wrong with unlocking all of the existing masks, and the only issue I see with it is that some story characters would be "playable" and some would not. Better would be to unlock them ALL, including the previously dev/mod only ones.
But, if the concern is the "new" storyline character masks making the Halloween versions less special, then the option could simply be to use the different outfit for the character as the "year round" version. *Wet* Seraph for Halloween, normal Seraph year round. *Ill* Persephone for Halloween, normal red/white dress Persephone year round. Etc. Assuming we actually get a Halloween event this year with new masks, this theme could be continued as every story character has 2 different outfits. Make one the year round version available now, make the other a special version collectable only during Halloween. Of course, all of this would require more work than simply having someone flip the "mask on" switch to make them all work all the time.
machete wrote:
Never happen... Not unless its a holiday.
You know I'm right
I would like to see unlocked masks, But SOE are going to hang on to whatever bit of 'update' / 'event' they have lets face it at halloween they arent going to say - Update for halloween get the masks you already have from 364 other days of the year haha!
Again personally would like but probs best that we dont! lol
Ra2za wrote:
machete wrote:
Never happen... Not unless its a holiday.
You know I'm right
I would like to see unlocked masks, But SOE are going to hang on to whatever bit of 'update' / 'event' they have lets face it at halloween they arent going to say - Update for halloween get the masks you already have from 364 other days of the year haha!Again personally would like but probs best that we dont! lol
I most certainly won't stick around until Halloween, if there is absolutely zero content and development of MxO over the next six months. Even if that's the case no one will get anything new anyways for the Halloween 2009 Event. (If there is anyone left ingame by then).
Villemar_MxO wrote:
I most certainly won't stick around until Halloween, if there is absolutely zero content and development of MxO over the next six months. Even if that's the case no one will get anything new anyways for the Halloween 2009 Event. (If there is anyone left ingame by then).
Now, I will be ingame (ok, I've still not seen everything in the game, as you do I think).
@topic: Unlocking the masks all the time seems not right to me. It seems more like another nail in the coffin ("oh, perhaps the game is dead, so we have two days of fun with the masks, ruin all of the matrix-atmosphere by using them all the time, and that's it..."). I'd like to see continuing normal Halloween-events (that should not be much work, even without a true developer, just activate and deactivate). Of course new masks/things for the event would be nice, but... you what I mean.
I second this idea...
Some of u say then there's nothing left for halloween 2009.. well there will always be the zombies and the collored sky and the chance to get the mask's. (from what i've read/heard. haven't had a halloween event yet 
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I mean they should unlock the mask's now. Let us have fun with it as we have fun with the other bosses mask's and hideout mask's.
With the halloween mask's unlocked the possibility's for RP would increas more...
And there still the zombies, collored sky, etc. halloween event to look forward to.
And like some other say, indeed IF we get a new dev or something and if new things are gonna be created again they can always bring it back the way it was.
We don't get new contect anymore atm.. let us at least have to fun with the halloween mask's then and not let us wait to halloween for it then be able to use it for a short amount of time and then wait for another year to use it again...
I say YES to unlocking halloween mask's!!
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Akunin wrote:
Coro wrote:
{see previous post}
But wouldn't making a new version of each mask diminish the "specialness" of the actual Halloween masks? To run around as Merv/Veil/Oracle etc. on a daily basis would seem a bit weird from an RP standpoint but it wouldn't hurt the game any. But if it does then why not just unlock the more "discreet" masks such as Tengu, TM, etc. and leave the Merv's and Seraph's locked except for Halloween?Right, I'm all about consistancy....like, you can be Lupin but not Ethereal 1....You can be Jezebeth but not a Succubus....you can be Captain Raeder/Danielle Smith/Elite Commado Leader but you cant be Tengu/Gargy/Taskmaster, you can be Ko but you can't be Dr. Extractia. I support leveling the playing field in this manner. And I'm not worried about the Marketplace, it might actually spur some more activity. Lastly as I've said before it won't require more than the tiniest amount of dev work since no actual ingame items are created.
I have no issue with the masks you mention: I agree that consitency is the key.
The Marketplace is not my main concern either, but the ease by which these masks were previously obtained would lead to a prevelance of them, should the Halloween "toggle" be permanently switched on. This could actually destroy their RP value, as they would become common-place.
Lets also be realistic about the value of this proposed change: can anyone cite me a good example of the currently available masks being used for an RP purpose? Would this dramatically change with the release of additional masks?
Shinryu wrote:
I personally see nothing wrong with unlocking all of the existing masks, and the only issue I see with it is that some story characters would be "playable" and some would not. Better would be to unlock them ALL, including the previously dev/mod only ones.
But, if the concern is the "new" storyline character masks making the Halloween versions less special, then the option could simply be to use the different outfit for the character as the "year round" version. *Wet* Seraph for Halloween, normal Seraph year round. *Ill* Persephone for Halloween, normal red/white dress Persephone year round. Etc. Assuming we actually get a Halloween event this year with new masks, this theme could be continued as every story character has 2 different outfits. Make one the year round version available now, make the other a special version collectable only during Halloween. Of course, all of this would require more work than simply having someone flip the "mask on" switch to make them all work all the time.
I couldn't disagree more. This is a defeatist attitude which allows SOE to justify never reinstating a LET. May be that's an unrealistic attitude and I will be told to "Wake up, Neo." but I am also a supporter of identifying an advantage to any change to be made. Let's see...
This suggestion has been started in a drive towards allowing us to continue the MxO story and to improve the potential for RP: you don't need to PvP in an Oracle mask.
I predict that unlocking the "main" character masks would simply make us susceptable to God-Modding and make us prone to less reputable types who could completely ruin the surviving RP community. Danielle Wright was a previous interacting character within the Live Events; has her mask been used in any worthwhile manner, as yet?
The only compromises I would offer would be for LESIG to be given access to these masks; on application to the Devs and lasting the duration of one log-in. Or they could be offered as reward items, in a similar style to the Perp FX.
so when can we expect these mask's to be unlocked......
JohnnyElectro wrote:
so when can we expect these mask's to be unlocked......
Halloween and Winter respectively.
GypsyJuggler wrote:
JohnnyElectro wrote:
so when can we expect these mask's to be unlocked......
Halloween and Winter respectively.
not an option!
mxo isn't probably gonna make it to halloween this year... unlock now so we can have our last bit of fun in this game!
JohnnyElectro wrote:
not an option!
mxo isn't probably gonna make it to halloween this year... unlock now so we can have our last bit of fun in this game!
Now that was more prophetic than even Johnny realised!
Since we certainly won't be getting a Halloween event ever again, let's just bring it forward and "flick the switch" at 23.59 hours June 30th: my understanding is that we will be left to our own devices from then anyway.
How about that, huh?
I think it's time to give up. Let it go. Die out with the game. lol
If we can unlock these then we can get some truly epic screens, vids and RP in before the servers shut down! Per Bay switching them on would be extremely esay.
Please consider!
Villemar_MxO wrote:
If we can unlock these then we can get some truly epic screens, vids and RP in before the servers shut down! Per Bay switching them on would be extremely esay.
Please consider!
Agreed!
You can just use "The Patch" for this, also :o
Bayamos wrote:
You can just use "The Patch" for this, also :o
I know, but its only individual client side
If everyone in your RP has the patch, you'll see eachother as the correct models and such, though. /shrug
If Villemar and Xeros have the patch, and Villemar puts on his Buck RSI Capture which is actually a CSR, Xeros will see him as a CSR too.
I'm totally in.
Bay, you sir, rock.
Bayamos wrote:
If everyone in your RP has the patch, you'll see eachother as the correct models and such, though. /shrug
If Villemar and Xeros have the patch, and Villemar puts on his Buck RSI Capture which is actually a CSR, Xeros will see him as a CSR too.
I'm 1000% with you, and your amazing patch is already up and running on my end, but there are a lot of nubs or nontechy types who won't wanna mess around with the game files.
how about we unlock everything and give everyone free assasin masks?
Mathalos and I found this stuff as a team, but the patch is 100% him. I had zero desire to make 50 changes by hand.
azarazamataz wrote:
how about we unlock everything and give everyone free assasin masks?
Good Sir, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the sentiment expressed in your post is Epic Fail.
Seriously, unlock the masks. This will enable everyone to enjoy them one last time. There are many who don't feel comfortable installing the patch. For those who do feel comfortable installing the patch, like myself, this will free up a lot of other models! Win-win, IMHO.
It would be cool if they could reactivate the zombies and pumpkins, collectors for Winter and Anniversary events, and the tickets so people can get last minute things but I highly doubt that would happen. I can dream...
Please unlock the masks, considering we will never see another Holiday Event again.
Yeah unlock the masks, you can at least give us this, after the way we've been treated these past months.
It's time to unlock the masks.
we all think it's time to unlock all the masks!!
they just don't listen to us or don't wanna give us that last little thing for the remaining mxo time.
hmm.. we get ignored... what a surprise.
unlock the masks!!!
Still lobbying for this one.
Really don't see why not to at this point (or before, actually). *shrug*
JEasy wrote:
It's time to unlock the masks.
Players: "Do it!! Do it Now!!" Agent SOE: "No players, your game is already dead."
