Merge

PS10N wrote:

There's always a flood of great ideas, suggestions and questions from the community, which we get no response about and, really, we don't expect to ever get any response about them.  But still we post them because, even if nothing is ever done, it's still nice to let a good idea out into the world rather than it just run around the hamster wheel in your mind.

The merge idea has been supported by some, shouted down by others, and has been clearly answered by the powers that be.  As we move past it, here is hoping they will answer some of the ideas and suggestions currently on the Development Roundtable and similar forums, and address the good ideas which should continue to be posted there.

Dear PS1ON:

"the facts disprove those pushing their personal prejudices and totally invalidating the lie that "Recursion (or MxO) is dead"

" There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.

One thing is to express or to even promote your events or whatever it is you are doing, but another is calling other people Liars or that we mislead the population by saying RECURSION IS A DEAD ZONE. I am the one that started this thread, and Im not misleading nor saying a false statement (nor the people who think like me), its just the plain harsh truth. Thats why, lots of recursionites are now playing on Syntax. This is not a "syntax people just hang at Mara C, and Recursionites do more rp" discussion... Even if you have 15 people online to do a 1 hour event (to be generous), doesnt mean you have a  populated server. If im not mistaken and my Station Launcher lies to me, Recursion its always on LOW. Honestly, I dont even know why you feel so strongly about people with different opinions and say "this thread should be closed" just cause you say so or think you have the Holy Grail. And as you say in one of your posts on this "dead horse thread": "Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death." So no, I dont feel I have to conform and stop saying what i think just cause you dont wanna read it.

And just to quote some of your posts:

"Well, from what I can understand of this around the lack of punctuation, grammar and spelling, it's just an ignorant rant to support a personal, prejudicial bias that is disproven by the fact that there are dozens of people having fun on Recursion every day."

I dont recommend  judging people by the way they write, cause as you know, not everyone on sweet planet Earth have English for primary language. (You know, like in REAL LIFE)

"Certainly no one should be denied the CHOICE to post on any thread about its topic"

Then why you said it should be closed? Let us post ... even if its irrelevant to you, as your posts are to many of us. And YES, we saw already your pictures on your avatar.

"Recursion is dead" is just a lame attempt by some Syntaxians to boost their own server population and convince themselves that their elitism is somehow backed by actual fact, or that there is some real difference between the servers.

I am from Recursion, and yeah, its dead.

Stop taking it as a server battle, and just try to see it as an opinion of some people that wish to improve (from their point of views) the game they play. I love Recursion, I have lots of good friends there, but like some, I wished to play on a more populated server. My intention isnt to sound harsh, but this post has the same tone as yours. Now, go and ask PinkPixie if she wouldn't want the same?

Avath wrote:

I am from Recursion, and yeah, its dead.

How dare you go against server consensus?!

Anyway, with 9mmfu and Dracomet both working on other projects I very much doubt that a 'flood of great ideas and suggestions' will be looked at so there is little point, in my opinion, in keeping a development roundtable forum open.

Avath wrote:

"Certainly no one should be denied the CHOICE to post on any thread about its topic"

Then why you said it should be closed? Let us post ... even if its irrelevant to you, as your posts are to many of us. And YES, we saw already your pictures on your avatar.

Plus your kungfu pose looks more like a wounded bird than anything.

Avath wrote:

Dear PS1ON:

"the facts disprove those pushing their personal prejudices and totally invalidating the lie that "Recursion (or MxO) is dead"

" There is a group of players that has been running a smear campaign of lies against Recursion since before the Assassin('s) Mask scam and this is just the continuation of that false agenda.  They would like nothing better than to see Recursion die, especially if their lies help it to happen.  These people have been telling their deceptions and spreading misleading information for a long time now; it's long past time for someone to stand up and call them on it.

One thing is to express or to even promote your events or whatever it is you are doing, but another is calling other people Liars or that we mislead the population by saying RECURSION IS A DEAD ZONE. I am the one that started this thread, and Im not misleading nor saying a false statement (nor the people who think like me), its just the plain harsh truth. Thats why, lots of recursionites are now playing on Syntax. This is not a "syntax people just hang at Mara C, and Recursionites do more rp" discussion... Even if you have 15 people online to do a 1 hour event (to be generous), doesnt mean you have a  populated server. If im not mistaken and my Station Launcher lies to me, Recursion its always on LOW. Honestly, I dont even know why you feel so strongly about people with different opinions and say "this thread should be closed" just cause you say so or think you have the Holy Grail. And as you say in one of your posts on this "dead horse thread": "Variety is the spice of life, conformity is death." So no, I dont feel I have to conform and stop saying what i think just cause you dont wanna read it.

And just to quote some of your posts:

"Well, from what I can understand of this around the lack of punctuation, grammar and spelling, it's just an ignorant rant to support a personal, prejudicial bias that is disproven by the fact that there are dozens of people having fun on Recursion every day."

I dont recommend  judging people by the way they write, cause as you know, not everyone on sweet planet Earth have English for primary language. (You know, like in REAL LIFE)

"Certainly no one should be denied the CHOICE to post on any thread about its topic"

Then why you said it should be closed? Let us post ... even if its irrelevant to you, as your posts are to many of us. And YES, we saw already your pictures on your avatar.

"Recursion is dead" is just a lame attempt by some Syntaxians to boost their own server population and convince themselves that their elitism is somehow backed by actual fact, or that there is some real difference between the servers.

I am from Recursion, and yeah, its dead.

Stop taking it as a server battle, and just try to see it as an opinion of some people that wish to improve (from their point of views) the game they play. I love Recursion, I have lots of good friends there, but like some, I wished to play on a more populated server. My intention isnt to sound harsh, but this post has the same tone as yours. Now, go and ask PinkPixie if she wouldn't want the same?

I agree, and although I appreciate PS10N's passion for Recursion, I'm back to my original viewpoint I had several months ago when this thread was started (not that I changed my opinion but I've been bouncing different alternatives people have given over here in my mind).

Basically, my thinking is that if SOE is serious about keeping this game running, as a "Legacy" or "Attic" game, at a certain point I think it would behoove them to merge the two nonhostile servers.  Even though it would require a temporary allocation of developer(s), it would save them money in the long run by not having the expense of a third server and it would retain more players than if they did nothing and let Recursion wither and die.

So the bottom line is, how serious is SOE as far as keeping this as a Legacy game?  If theyre not, I don't see the point of having a game in six months that has a total of ten or twenty players total.  They'd have to shut it down.....and lose the distinction of never have shutting a game down before.  Otherwise it would be like a town that keeps spending big money to keep an Aquarium open that has no fish in it

It makes no sense.  Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Basically, my thinking is that if SOE is serious about keeping this game running, as a "Legacy" or "Attic" game, at a certain point I think it would behoove them to merge the two nonhostile servers.  Even though it would require a temporary allocation of developer(s), it would save them money in the long run by not having the expense of a third server and it would retain more players than if they did nothing and let Recursion wither and die.

So the bottom line is, how serious is SOE as far as keeping this as a Legacy game?  If theyre not, I don't see the point of having a game in six months that has a total of ten or twenty players total.  They'd have to shut it down.....and lose the distinction of never have shutting a game down before.  Otherwise it would be like a town that keeps spending big money to keep an Aquarium open that has no fish in it

It makes no sense.  Oh well, we'll see what happens.

It makes no sense in terms of the buisness world yes. I can see where your coming from but the problem lies within the technical aspect of the problem and it won't be solved by a temporary allocation of devs.

Quite simply it's not a simple matter of copy and paste. There are rules set down to have a normalized database which I'm not going to go into because.... it's beyond a good 80% of people on this forum. Certain bits have to be picked out of the database to be transfered. Now Rarebit has been working on MxO for as long as I can remember and he's stated before now that he's only scratched the surface of the actual coding of MxO. At the end of the day the only way it's going to happen is if a bunch of devs reverse engineered the coding behind the game which I'm going to assume they can't because of some legal BS put in place by either WB or Monolith.

Even if the game was reverse engineered the launcher would also have to be updated to reflect the change. The custom type created for each server in the database would have to change also to accomodate the fact that the new merged server would have 6 character slots which then requires that all the data in the new server be re-ordered to accommodate that.

In the end it's a lot of sweat and graft that SOE would need to put in to actually make this happen. Assuming that WB and Monolith allow them to.

I'm not saying that a merge is a bad idea, far from it. However what I'm saying is currently technical and legal issues will probably mean that the idea isn't going to work.

True. Though I really would like a Merge, I know it probably never happen. I guess all we can do is try to have fun with what we have.... till we get really tired of it or they shut down the game.

Avath wrote:

Im sure this isnt a new idea... but given the circunstances Im posting it today. Im from Recursion, and its sad to see it always on Low, its almost dead, same few people. I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.

Thanks for reading.

I agree.

At this rate a Server merge is key.

All I have to say is that I'm looking for a better job, and I've messed with enough MMO emus and a leaked RO server software and programming to say I ain't scared of no DB. Now to be honest, unless Monolith devs were sniffing paint and actually did install a laser grid around source, updating the launcher to support additional character slots shouldn't be difficult. The only mildly difficult part would've be automating a merge process. Concepts and designs of MMO databases are similar with unique parts, but you always have an account database, character databases (and subdbs for those). 
Its like reading Engrish, you kinda have an idea of what's going on but you might scratch your head here or there.

I for one don't want to see the Servers Merge.

The problem with the player base at the moment is nobody is coming into the game, a little while ago i re-activated my account to come and since i have, i've joined a friendly faction of people that live in my country and do fun stuff.

On the side they have been really helpful from my past factions that i've had.

The problem i had with this game was that there were so many factions, you couldn't really pick and the servers were so bloody laggy when Recursion hit Full during the Assassin event i couldn't even play once, because the lag was horrible.

I'm really enjoying these low player based servers, it means we are more open to pvp and hang out with people, anyway there is still lots of pvp around on Recursion and the other servers seem to be coping.

On the side guys look at it this way, the only way that SOE will get players back into this game is to offer out another free trial, believe or not people will come flocking to it and then if it interests them they will want to play more, My friends used to hate this game because of the terrible lag and full servers. Now that its low player schemed, i've managed to get 3 of my friends signed onto the matrix online and ready to kick arse.

I vote against the server merge :_)

Back when the Family and Friends Free trial came out, it was a new thing and it was heavily advertised. Now anyone can get a free 14 day trial at any time. I think it's barely advertised, but i don't pay any attention to Station games outside MxO. And the advertising aspect is a whole nother thread.

You make a good point of having the servers on low and no lag. If we merge and Mara C turns everyone's meter red on approach, we'll all complain about that next.

Fact is, A private project has more chance of merging a server then Sony Online Entertainment, If anyone can recall sony had a merge on a Star wars galaxy server a while back, only problem is there was a major crash where they messed up and they lost an entire database of characters for one server, mine was one of them, had like a level 49 Bounty Hunter :p.

They said they would get it back up asap, one month later i recieve my character back, items are missing and a bunch of problems are still remaining. Most of the people from the merged server left to other servers because it had horrible lag and lots of problems because it was so huge.

Back in 2005 or 6, when they "Merged" into SoE, Sony Online Entertainment Fired the entire team of devolpers who spent their good few years working on this game, kept Walrus on because he was a valuable asset to the game as it was his devolping project at monolith, offered him a little more money then what he had at SoE and ruined their chances of making this game better.

The original combat system was the best and unique combat system i had ever seen in my life, the combat for the game was awesome the moves were awesome, but Sony being Sony, Had to go at and remove it all because it was either too violent or PC's couldn't handle it back then, which in high spec Matrix Online is what Crysis is for 2004-2005.

Problem with the contract between SOE and Monolith is they got rights over the MMO to sell it and produce more of it, but they didn't gain the rights to the source code of the game, so they messed up by sacking off the only devolpment team that could work on the code, the devolpers in SOE had to spend a good half a year reverse engineering this game and implant what they called the best combat system ever. It's new its improved, you don't have the poor dice system yadda yadda yadda.

Since then they added tons of stuff, i mean they still have not fixed the bug where you fall through the map in Mara Central, from closed beta. Closed beta being 4-5 Years ago. How does it take 5 Years to fix a peice of code, oh yeah sorry we can't edit that because we didn't design the game.

Honestly, you won't get a server merge and if you "DO" get one, be prepared because you may have to start again. I'll tell you something from my personal experience with servers and databases and my friends views from previous working clients in different companies, when it comes down to merging a server of this size, it would take quite a few weeks if you had the required hands, but as Sony Online Entertainment has a terrible technical support and maintaince support, i don't see it happening in a few weeks, I'm going to go for 4-5months the same rough amount of time it took them to produce the game into what it was now. They did an awesome job of splitting the servers apart but if you have 3 characters per server, and before you only had 1-2 Characters per server, how are they going to merge 3 into 6 with millions of players that have either not played since when ever or new players.

On the side note, no matter what SOE does, it won't stop me playing my favorate MMO

Good luck with it though, I'm sure it won't happen, so you guys can quite your petitioning about it *Smiley Face*

And PSION is right.

Peace

***blu4dragon****On the side note, no matter what SOE does, it won't stop me playing my favorate MMO

Good luck with it though, I'm sure it won't happen, so you guys can quite your petitioning about it *Smiley Face*

And PSION is right.***

no...and if not a merge a character transfer

Does it really matter if it will take weeks or months to create a solution?  No.  Does it matter that SOE have butchered other games while trying to implement something like what we are asking?  No.  Does it matter if you think Psion is right or wrong... NO. 

This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

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I agree

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

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Croesis wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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Hear hear!

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate.  This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else.  IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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What they said

Hear hear!

I AGREE. Very well saild!

Avath wrote:

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate. This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else. IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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I agree

What they said

Hear hear!

I AGREE. Very well saild!

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Gerik wrote:

Avath wrote:

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate. This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else. IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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I agree

What they said

Hear hear!

I AGREE. Very well saild!

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Interesting.  Time will tell.  INDEED!!!

Gerik wrote:

Avath wrote:

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Garu wrote:

GQubed wrote:

...This isn't a thread asking for a democratic vote on the subject from the players, it isn't asking for a bunch of people that feel the need to play devil's advocate. This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo... if you are, then by all means START YOUR OWN THREAD and kiss the almighty sony browneye or speak of how happy you are to share your time in MxO with 8 other people you know and nobody else. IF action can be taken, we want it to be taken, if plans need to be drawn up then we want that... your thread can say the opposite and I promise I wont rain on your parade lol.

THIS.

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I agree

What they said

Hear hear!

I AGREE. Very well saild!

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This is a thread asking for a server merge. Read the OP. That's all it is.

Start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one.

CodeNut wrote:

This is a thread asking for a server merge. Read the OP. That's all it is.

Start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one.

Read the OP and quote us exactly where she was asking for a Merge and not stating her opinion that a merge would be a good idea.

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

This is a thread asking for a server merge. Read the OP. That's all it is.

Start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one.

Read the OP and quote us exactly where she was asking for a Merge and not stating her opinion that a merge would be a good idea.

No. You show where the OP says:

This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

This is a thread asking for a server merge. That's all it is. Can't be done. Time for camp descent to move on to browner pastures.

CodeNut wrote:

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

This is a thread asking for a server merge. Read the OP. That's all it is.

Start your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one.

Read the OP and quote us exactly where she was asking for a Merge and not stating her opinion that a merge would be a good idea.

No. You show where the OP says:

This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

This is a thread asking for a server merge. That's all it is. Can't be done. Time for camp descent to move on to browner pastures.

Not literally true.  Where there's a will there's a way.  And guess what.  The will is there.

Also, Avath (the OP) wins.  <3

Also, Abraham Lincoln wins.  Ask me how!

CodeNut wrote:

No. You show where the OP says:

This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

This is a thread asking for a server merge. That's all it is. Can't be done. Time for camp descent to move on to browner pastures.

Rofl, If you can't quote an actual request then you might want to stop trying to hijack this thread.

I, however, can quote where she said we're not happy with the status Quo:

Avath wrote:

I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.

Basically the entire OP. Why don't you actually pay attention to what it says instead of what you think it says. Try reading it, ok?

So as Villemar said, Avath (OP) wins, GF.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Also, Abraham Lincoln wins.  Ask me how!

Like this?

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

No. You show where the OP says:

This was a thread to show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

This is a thread asking for a server merge. That's all it is. Can't be done. Time for camp descent to move on to browner pastures.

Rofl, If you can't quote an actual request then you might want to stop trying to hijack this thread.

But I can quote where she said we're not happy with the status Quo:

Avath wrote:

I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.

Basically the entire OP. Why don't you actually pay attention to what it says instead of what you think it says. Try reading it, ok? GF

Looking for the part that says:

Let's show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

Obviously you hear things I don't and I hear things you don't, like a server merge isn't possible. That pretty much puts a wrap on this subject.

CodeNut wrote:

Looking for the part that says:

Let's show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

Obviously you hear things I don't and I hear things you don't, like a server merge isn't possible. That pretty much puts a wrap on this subject.

That sentence is another person's quite obvious and appropriate interpretation (look it up) of the OP's statement. He wasn't quoting the exact wording. This should be blindingly blatant to anyone over the age of say, 12 years old. Of course I do sometimes forget that English isn't everyone's primary language so I'll let you off.

I have quoted where this interpretation was sourced from, you on the other hand, fail to quote where the OP said "Can we have a server merge please?" Considering that that's your entire claim about the OP of this thread, you seriously need to back it up.

Also, if you think it wraps up the subject, fine. Strange though that you continue to post about it. Does it possibly annoy you that people, including some Recursionites, would still like to discuss how it would be better if it were possible?

CodeNut wrote:

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Also, Abraham Lincoln wins.  Ask me how!

Like this?

Nope, GF though.

Just a simple quote I remember from History that popped into my head:  "A house divided against itself cannot stand." - A.Lincoln

(Note I'm not comparing the state of MxO to the American Civil War, lol.  But the quote applies here methinks).

...This is the most popular thread on all the boards.

...Shouldn't that say something?

True

Neoteny wrote:

...This is the most popular thread on all the boards.

...Shouldn't that say something?

 That would be too much like right.

Neoteny wrote:

...This is the most popular thread on all the boards.

...Shouldn't that say something?

That the horse has now been officially beaten into dust.

Well done all of you for stating the same points for the last 41 pages..... as for me, I shall now paint my garden fence because that is wholly more interesting than the 90% of whiney bastards on this thread.

Ta ta!

@topic:

At last, a merge of Recursion and Syntax is the only right thing to do. Same rules on both servers, one with population low, one with low - medium (sometime). A MMORPG where you meet about 3 - 6 people in 2 hours (Recursion), something is wrong...

Of course at last I wish to see a dozen servers, all filled medium - high, but that's a dream... (could be more servers again, could, if SOE would support the game as it deserves and do some advertisement, provide official trial-keys and so on... nobody chooses a game if he don't know about it's existance).

PRO MERGE SYNTAX & RECURSION

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

'Me want', 'Me want!!' a transfer foir all these so called 'pvprs' that think they could hack a 24/7 flagging <3

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

Looking for the part that says:

Let's show those that have control that we are not happy with the status quo...

Obviously you hear things I don't and I hear things you don't, like a server merge isn't possible. That pretty much puts a wrap on this subject.

That sentence is another person's quite obvious and appropriate interpretation (look it up) of the OP's statement. He wasn't quoting the exact wording. This should be blindingly blatant to anyone over the age of say, 12 years old. Of course I do sometimes forget that English isn't everyone's primary language so I'll let you off.

I have quoted where this interpretation was sourced from, you on the other hand, fail to quote where the OP said "Can we have a server merge please?" Considering that that's your entire claim about the OP of this thread, you seriously need to back it up.

Also, if you think it wraps up the subject, fine. Strange though that you continue to post about it. Does it possibly annoy you that people, including some Recursionites, would still like to discuss how it would be better if it were possible?

How is "They should merge Syntax and Recursion" not asking for a server merge? Thank you for resorting to insults to support your failed argument.

Server merge requested. Answer: Not possible.

Time to move on.

Avath wrote:

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

What's the title of this thread?

CodeNut wrote:

Avath wrote:

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

What's the title of this thread?

this thread is mainly for players who are sick of being in a ghost town to discuss a "hope" or "possibility" of a merge, not for some nay sayers to get on the defensive of anything put out on this thread...no, you wont get no forum cqs here, this is not what its all about ...ive seen a lot of people wanting this merge, its not two or three people who want this,its the vast majority,  i say  6  character slots in Syncursion.... a merge or a character transfer.so go boo-hoo if you dont like it. Avath refered to it as a discussion of ideas and i think it has been shown , you just have to read to notice a couple of ideas floating around, people like Villemar and others who have contributed thoughts and ideas  to this thread  instead of bashing it .

CodeNut wrote:

How is "They should merge Syntax and Recursion" not asking for a server merge? Thank you for resorting to insults to support your failed argument.

Server merge requested. Answer: Not possible.

Time to move on.

It's not a request because it's a personal statement. Thus my argument has not failed whereas your continued regime of wanting to stop people discussing how a merge would benefit players is a failure.

And I'm glad you are greatful for the insults, although it seems that despite them you are still unable and unwilling to grasp the simple concept of this entire thread.

CodeNut wrote:

Avath wrote:

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

What's the title of this thread?

The title is 'Merge'. Not 'Can we haz merge naow pls?' or 'We want a merge!' It is plainly just 'Merge' where people can discuss how it would be better all round if it were possible. Yet still you want to deny people's discussion of it.

CodeNut wrote:

Avath wrote:

Thanks!

I wasnt "asking" for a merge, since this thread its about *discussing" ideas, therefore the name *Development Discussion* and not a *ME WANT* thread.  Its about giving ideas...

Funny how some people post just to say they wont post.

What's the title of this thread?

Tittle: Merge.  Why? Cause thats the topic. Does that makes it a *ME WANT* thread? No. Just points the idea. Lots of stuff like this on College Board.

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

How is "They should merge Syntax and Recursion" not asking for a server merge? Thank you for resorting to insults to support your failed argument.

Server merge requested. Answer: Not possible.

Time to move on.

It's not a request because it's a personal statement. Thus my argument has not failed whereas your continued regime of wanting to stop people discussing how a merge would benefit players is a failure.

But its such a valiant and noble cause!   Surely the slow, entropic death of the the only Matrix MMO is a brave and worthwhile cause we should all strive for?

At last, I don't understand why SOE had not done the merge already... not only we would have more living city, they would reduce costs... strange.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Croesis wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

How is "They should merge Syntax and Recursion" not asking for a server merge? Thank you for resorting to insults to support your failed argument.

Server merge requested. Answer: Not possible.

Time to move on.

It's not a request because it's a personal statement. Thus my argument has not failed whereas your continued regime of wanting to stop people discussing how a merge would benefit players is a failure.

But its such a valiant and noble cause!   Surely the slow, entropic death of the the only Matrix MMO is a brave and worthwhile cause we should all strive for?

You are the one trying to stick a fork in a thread on a forum... how is what you are doing going to benefit anyone except you over inflated idea of selfworth... omg you dont like the thread or what it stands for?  By ALL means stop reading it lol.  The fact that the thread is still alive gives me hope, what do you get out of trying to crush hope?  I have a good idea what you get but this isnt the time or place to discuss that topic

CodeNut wrote:

Server merge requested. Answer: Not possible.

Time to move on. 

I will pay/farm 500mil $i to the person who can provide a direct quote from these forums or a screenshot from in-game of an official known developer or producer for the Matrix Online saying that a server merge is not possible.

I reserve the right to approve of screenshots as either authentic or faked.

Walrus said it at this years anniver party

Really wish they could do something though. Look at all the people for it.. Transfer's is more what i'd want though, get pvprs over to vector. I think thats half the reason people don't roll on their alts to much, CQ's and gear. Transfer would hopefully (if it didn't fook up) eliminate that. I remember Rare saying 'unfair for non hostile to have lvld non hostile then transferring.'  I kind of agree (yous missed the fun parts he he) but at this point, i don't see vectorites caring in the slightest.

Transfer ftw

The_Bruceter wrote:

Walrus said it at this years anniver party

No, he didn't. Also, poidh.