426 posts · 2008-11-17 12:09:20 to 2009-04-29 05:03:09
Cadsuane wrote:
This has stopped making sense. If all those people who have said 'Recursion is dead' logged into Recursion to see that it was dead, then it would be pretty full.
Also doesn't help when half the whiners who were FROM Recursion bailed to Syntax. "OMG ITS DEAD I LEAVE NAO TO SYNTAX"
(p.s. nothing against Syntax)
Vinia wrote:
Also I doubt that any player census will be very accurate.
Well, obviously it wouldn't be as accurate as SOE opening up the books. Just a thumbnail sketch. But it would be much more accurate than hyperbolizers on DN1 (on both sides).
Avath wrote:
Im sure this isnt a new idea... but given the circunstances Im posting it today. Im from Recursion, and its sad to see it always on Low, its almost dead, same few people. I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.
Thanks for reading.
should have joined syntax from the start, then you wouldnt run into this little snag.
Zimmermann wrote:
Avath wrote:
Im sure this isnt a new idea... but given the circunstances Im posting it today. Im from Recursion, and its sad to see it always on Low, its almost dead, same few people. I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.
Thanks for reading.
should have joined syntax from the start, then you wouldnt run into this little snag.
Thanks for the advice, Nostradamus
if at all the merge actually does happen, atleast there should be a new third server created. maybe a pve-rp server...
Server merge... what a dream hehehehe. I hope so this happens some day but I doubt it's going to happens really... I'm from Vector and I like pvp to much but we allways fight with the same people and it's becoming bored.
I propose to do an opinion poll, is it possible in-game?? I say in-game cause not every player reads the forums u know. With this we'll know the people opinion about this matter and then the devs would can act accordingly. It seems technicaly is possible, so, why not to know the opinion of the players?
Sorry about my english I try to writte it as best I could.
Cadsuane wrote:
I think we should have a poll about wether or not to have a poll.
You read my mind. Get out of my head, ktnx.
Do it already...
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Your point is moot....all 3 to 1 isn't gonna happen.
3 to 2 not 3 to 1.
I like my main PvP server, and I like my 2nd PvE server when I'm there. I don't want my apples mixed in with my orages. Put the two apples together and leave the orange out of it, please.
I'm with Villemar on how to slice this thing. I was a part of the argument that ended up with the creation of the hostile servers in beta, and then(as now) there is a legitimacy in the structure of Vector. I don't think it's worth changing that aspect of the game for the sake of herding all the survivors together. In the short term, merging the servers may be a move that would bring some people back to the game, and increase the activity of what remains. However, as if many here weren't worried enough about the state of the game, I don't think we have long after the servers are merged. It was said that it wasn't a move that the developers wanted to take, and server mergers do tend to atrophy the prospect of any real growth to the community.
Yeah, it's time for us to get over it. It isn't worth it for the company to put the effort into a sever merge as a short-term fix to stall a long-term, fundamental problem. They said they aren't planning on doing it, and whining about it here endlessly isn't going to change that fact.
Hanzyl and Gretyl wrote:
Croesis wrote:
Of course... I have to wonder how many Vector players would remain flagged full time when a large majority of the population may not be.
My level 17 alt on Syntax is perma flagged and has been since level 16. The level 50's or higher levels chase me about all the time. Granted I don't play on the server much. The perma flag macro is alright but it also seems to interupt other ones so a check box would be cool.
I've also done this from time to time. It's actually a lot more fun than most non-hostile players would expect.
A merge would only be good if it was to consolidate to a single server that could more than handle it. One of the other servers could be used for test maybe.
Two 1/2 servers -
One for Hostile
One regular
1/2 super sized!
At this point, even with Rare leaving, that isn't going to make them change their minds suddenly and decide to merge the servers.
While they certainly read these threads (as they've proven) and while they'll take our opinions into account, the bottom line is that if they decide to merge the servers, they'll do it. If the decide not to, then they'll leave things as they are.
Everything that happens isn't a reason to merge / not to merge. It is what it is.
Well I am a fantasist and I say now we are probably going to get an intern if anyone?!
One server will be easier to manage and give a drop of content too than 3!
MERGE NOW THANKYOU PLZ
My guess is that the population is going to nose-dive, and the already small population will be even smaller. I would like a merge.
Server merge and f2p plz.
I really do think this would be the best course of action, even if they just joined Syntax with Recursion, and let the hostilites remain kings of their corner.
Oldskool wrote:
I really do think this would be the best course of action, even if they just joined Syntax with Recursion, and let the hostilites remain kings of their corner.
Indeed, Operative. This is necessary now. A shot of adreneline to keep MxO alive a little longer. The whole reason people play MMO's is to interact with others. No one wants to log into a dead server and solo missions or farm or whatever for $15/mo.
Villemar_MxO wrote:
No one wants to log into a dead server and solo missions or farm or whatever for $15/mo.
That's not necessarily true. Some of us don't log into this game for the social aspect at all (though we are a VERY small majority), we just use social networks that are free. I'm not completely against a merge though, but I'd like to see at least 2 servers left. I can see the players who want to create stories or other projects using the game environment, when all a sudden they're attacked by PVP'ers or simply harrassed by bored players. Somehow a dead server starts to sound pretty good to those who want to create projects.
CODEMAN wrote:
Villemar_MxO wrote:
No one wants to log into a dead server and solo missions or farm or whatever for $15/mo.
That's not necessarily true. Some of us don't log into this game for the social aspect at all (though we are a VERY small majority), we just use social networks that are free. I'm not completely against a merge though, but I'd like to see at least 2 servers left. I can see the players who want to create stories or other projects using the game environment, when all a sudden they're attacked by PVP'ers or simply harrassed by bored players. Somehow a dead server starts to sound pretty good to those who want to create projects.
A good story-writer knows how to include such inevitibilities.
This merge is long overdue. The only reason I can see that they wouldn't *want* to do this is because they simply don't want to invest the man-hours to tackle the task. Yet another example of SOE's lack of care or consideration for MxO.
ShiXinFeng wrote:
"A good story-writer knows how to include such inevitibilities."
I see. So if you can't include getting ganked or harrassed in your story, then you must not be a good story-teller. I just want to be sure I understood that statement correctly. Anyway I doubt a merge is coming, because imo, from a business perspective, it doesn't make any sense to eliminate choices to potential players, especially if you want to attract anymore. It's bad enough that alot of the players on a games official website complain so much, but then you want to eliminate 2 of your 3 servers??
I keep reading comparisons to WoW. This game isn't WoW and I hope it NEVER becomes that. However unlikely it might be, the day may come when you see a surge of new players and then you only have 1 server to handle them all. I don't know about you, but if I were interested in trying this game and saw all the complaints and changes that came with it, I'd think SWG all over again and take a pass. After all, that game was ruined by SOE trying to pacify all its players. The reason that current players want this merge is because in reality, they want to transfer their avatars from one server, to a more populated one. The PVP'ers are bored & want to turn Syntax into Vector so they have fresh meat to hunt. The socialites on Syntax just want to "chat" and don't want to be ganked. The social butterflies on Recursion are feeling lonely. These players don't want to spend the time or effort to level up a new character on another server. They want to transfer their characters and force all other players into a Syntax/Vector environment. What's wrong with making new characters and having choices? 1 hostile server for PVP'ers, 1 server for the social butterflies, and 1 server for lone-wolf players. I don't think a merge would help MxO at all. It would just cater to existing players that can't stop complaining but won't leave. It would further weaken the game and its reputation, but after almost 3 years of reading these forums, I can't help but think that's what some people want.
CODEMAN wrote:
ShiXinFeng wrote:
"A good story-writer knows how to include such inevitibilities."
I see. So if you can't include getting ganked or harrassed in a story then you must not be a good story-teller? I just want to be sure I understood that statement correctly. Anyway I doubt a merge is coming, because for me, from a business perspective, it doesn't make sense to eliminate choices in a product, especially if you want to attract anymore people. It's bad enough that most of the players on the official website for a game complain about it, but then you eliminate 2 of the 3 servers? I don't know about you, but if I were interested in trying a game and saw these things, I may quickly change my mind. The only reason that I see for people wanting this merge is because they don't want to use one of the other servers to grind a new character maybe b/c they're really attatched to their avatar on one, or their friends don't want to join them on another, or just lazy, etc. I don't think this would help MxO at all. It would just further damage it. But after almost 4 years of reading these forums I can't help but think that's what some people want.
From three to 2, not three to 1, at least initially. In the meantime, maybe you can log onto a QA server if you don't want any other players bothering you.
I was always for a server merge but after seeing the population lately, I don't see why they haven't. Going to Mara C on Vector during prime hours there might be 20 people on a good night. Merge so that MxO doesn't feel like a ghost town.
Virrago wrote:
We currently have no plans for any server merges at this time.
V, Rarebit's parting posts have created this feeling that his sudden departure was unplanned and perhabs even a tad unexpected for you folks at the office. This could well be a false feeling, but even with that, i think the community's earned another official response on whether your plans on a server merge have been updated.
While i also agree with having a hostile server and just a few more pacification zones, this kind of change will do too much damage to the community altogether. As i see it, there is an other solution: wipe all 3 servers, and give all existing characters a choice between a hostile and non-hostile server upon the first login after the wipe.
But that would require even more effort from the tech people in charge of merge stuff. Hence - irrational and unrealistic.
Fen wrote:
If there's a merge, it would not be a good thing to make it a hostile server. Vector is the lowest pop server, so it's not really a good idea to base the merged server on that ruleset.
Besides, there's always flagging, so pvp can still be had.. it's just the players choice whether they want to do it.
And no, I'm not down with having Downtown or International hostile, as I personally spend a lot of time in Downtown.
I will guarantee you that if the server becomes hostile, you will see another large exodus of players, which is something our game doesn't need. You, as an individual, might think it's a good idea... but generally people roll on PvE servers for a reason. We're carebears.
So the consensus would be, allow Recursion players to transfer over to Syncursion or Vector? 1 hostile, 1 non-hostile? That seems to me to be the best option all around.
I think if SOE decided to change our server setup they'd be most likely to shift everyone from Recursion (and maybe Vector too) to Syntax and use the spare machines for another game.
Fen wrote:
If there's a merge, it would not be a good thing to make it a hostile server. Vector is the lowest pop server, so it's not really a good idea to base the merged server on that ruleset.
Besides, there's always flagging, so pvp can still be had.. it's just the players choice whether they want to do it.
And no, I'm not down with having Downtown or International hostile, as I personally spend a lot of time in Downtown.
I will guarantee you that if the server becomes hostile, you will see another large exodus of players, which is something our game doesn't need. You, as an individual, might think it's a good idea... but generally people roll on PvE servers for a reason. We're carebears.
Its just not the same though. PvP is totally different where you can't hide in the zerg and attack when you want. Seek and strike.
I just don't understand that last line 
Why? (syntaxians get alot of their players cause of the population i'd say) but really, why? Its fun as anything and i just feel sorry for you guys that won't even try it. Bunch of non hostilies have came over and joined DE, every single one of them enjoy it and log on regularly.
Ves, to me that is out the window now. You's have missed the fun of mission team pvp and well tbh i don't think i would really care if they hadn't leveled up on vector, i just want more people there through the day
Gerik, wheres our last servers? SoE will prob just whip up which ever sever we drop and give it to SWG or somthing lol
Jahzel-Jah wrote:
.... merge...when?, how?, who?
Ah DN1 where you don't need to read the posts before yours to still know absolutely every detail of what your talking about.
And my wtt post was trolling w/e.
~Darminian
you really think the servers have their own dedicated hardware??? Vmware anyone? ; P
if this even happens... just give the players the option of which server to migrate to...
In the event of teh server merge I'd like my 3 lvl 50s to be placed accordinly,
Skull086~Vector-Hostile (Reason being is I love pvp and have always wanted a lvl 50 on vector but to lazy.)
LifeDestroyer~Syntax (Reason being just to have one on the other server for rping and stuff.)
SkilledNoob~Syntax (Remain where he is so I can continue to pwn nubs on syntax with a name like SkilledNoob I can't lose!)
I'd very much like a server merge, it's a must, if you don't do it for teh community, even if you cannot do it for me, at least think about doing it for teh kitty, cause to see another broken hearted kitty, I'd have to end my own life via hara keri, or however you spell it lol.
Grab hand ftw, pizza ftw, pie ftw, assassin's mask ftl, zion ftl, neo wanna-bes ftl, server merge ftw! kthxbai.
Skull101 wrote:
In the event of teh server merge I'd like my 3 lvl 50s to be placed accordinly,
Skull086~Vector-Hostile (Reason being is I love pvp and have always wanted a lvl 50 on vector but to lazy.)
LifeDestroyer~Syntax (Reason being just to have one on the other server for rping and stuff.)
SkilledNoob~Syntax (Remain where he is so I can continue to pwn nubs on syntax with a name like SkilledNoob I can't lose!)
I'd very much like a server merge, it's a must, if you don't do it for teh community, even if you cannot do it for me, at least think about doing it for teh kitty, cause to see another broken hearted kitty, I'd have to end my own life via hara keri, or however you spell it lol.
Grab hand ftw, pizza ftw, pie ftw, assassin's mask ftl, zion ftl, neo wanna-bes ftl, server merge ftw! kthxbai.
Stupid, illegible posts FTL.
Skull101 wrote:
In the event of teh server merge I'd like my 3 lvl 50s to be placed accordinly,
Skull086~Vector-Hostile (Reason being is I love pvp and have always wanted a lvl 50 on vector but to lazy.)
I encourage this, very strongly. Yes, yes, a thousand times YES.
Please, if you can't do anything else, let Skull come over to Vector.
monkeymanx8 wrote:
Please, if you can't do anything else, let Skull come over to Vector.
Is he as fun as advertised?
WoKeN wrote:
monkeymanx8 wrote:
Please, if you can't do anything else, let Skull come over to Vector.
Is he as fun as advertised?
Fun? Mostly as fun as a funeral.
GoDGiVeR wrote:
WoKeN wrote:
monkeymanx8 wrote:
Please, if you can't do anything else, let Skull come over to Vector.
Is he as fun as advertised?Fun? Mostly as fun as a funeral.
Yes, but...
*cough* permaflagged *cough*
Villemar_MxO wrote:
GoDGiVeR wrote:
WoKeN wrote:
monkeymanx8 wrote:
Please, if you can't do anything else, let Skull come over to Vector.
Is he as fun as advertised?Fun? Mostly as fun as a funeral.
Yes, but...
*cough* permaflagged *cough*
Fun to beat the crap out of, I bet.
yeah, just finished reading some threads on some other forum, and they just make me think...
No.
There are just some people I don't want on Syntax. Sorry to the rest of you nice folks, but we seem to need that server as a sort of, well, camp to house some people with way over-inflated egos.
But don't worry, they will eventually fill the space over there with lots of hot air, and that will make it cozy...
Mind- that made me lol for real. thats abotu how Im feeling atm
lol u guys are funny, and I have lvled mostly on vector, got to lvl 34 with one char and 20 with another, but due to the lack of people, I just got bored of it. Which is why I'd want my main on vector.
Ebola wrote:
Im not sure why the Syntax people are complaining about not wanting to have the dramatic people from Recursion transfered/merged to Syntax.... when the majority of the people from Recursion have alts on Syntax... we just want our older characters there
Or just give us a free 50 on Syntax, grinding is boring.
ahh, good point.
Objection retracted.
Mind you, I'm sure a server merge actually requires more work than SOE is interested in investing anyway. Prolly actually cheaper to just leave things running the way they are, they try to accomplish this.
We ain't trying to force any sort of merge. We're just putting our input into this thread.
Most of vectors current players haven't opted for non hostile, donno where you got that from. Some, aye (not that many that i know of tbh.) Just alot have quit in the past. Some returners as of late, and been fun.
I can agree with you about the subs, but well, we'll see soon enough.
See when you log into vector, you do not know how many people are logged on. I pretty much do though. (Hate it when people do that lol can't tell whos on unless you have every person on your buddies.) So you logging on and saying its dead, prob more the fact that its bunches of people scattered round the city farming. Vector does have events btw. One running right now and well theres always the Vector Olympics and other stuff throughout the year.
If there was ever a server transfer option, i would hope to see some people come over. Obviously the ones that more want to pvp.
Yeah Ville your right about the whole being red = consequences and keeping people in line, well most... All servers have their bad apples.
Knowing in our luck, it would be all the trash talking scubs that would come over ha ha
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