Merge

Im sure this isnt a new idea... but given the circunstances Im posting it today. Im from Recursion, and its sad to see it always on Low, its almost dead, same few people. I made a new character on syntax, since its the only server (I know vector sometimes too) that reaches Medium. A lot of people from Recursion I know are doing the same, and we all feel the same way: "They should merge Syntax and Recursion". That way we can have our main characters together and do better RP, or involve more in the game. Whats the use of having a server on Low anyway? It would be fair for many people like me that have their main character on Recursion.

Thanks for reading.

I always used to be heartily against this idea. But nowadays? I have to say I agree.

For those that didnt read the part... I KNOW ITS NOT A NEW IDEA...

But, Recursion's condition its now even worse. Plus... That can mean something, maybe the idea has been ignored many times.

God bless you Tranque, try some medicine for the cough.

Before, I'd say forget it.  After the Winter Holiday (allowing for a small uptick in players returning for the holidays), when we'll see a big exodus of players?    I'd say yeah that's a really good idea.  Reccy is the deadest of the three servers.

I agree with the merge, as for why does this subject emerge or something new is posted about it, its because its always buried and forgotten, mainly all i see is people from syntax that dont agree on the merge..Why?... have any devs participated on the other threads before? Ive heard  MXO had several or more than three at least other servers and now its down to three. Maybe if everybody would stop trying to be witty on their post and actually try to get themselves to be heard , this subject wouldnt be recurrent , its a shame that everytime you visit the server where your main character is (recursion) you find yourself talking to the same three people, and getting items you dont need because theres nothing to use it on.

I used to be against the idea as well, but I think it's time to merge. Especially given this new content format, it'll mean more content for everybody, not to mention real people to talk to and whatnot.

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

I agree with the merge, as for why does this subject emerge or something new is posted about it, its because its always buried and forgotten, mainly all i see is people from syntax that dont agree on the merge..Why?... have any devs participated on the other threads before? Ive heard  MXO had several or more than three at least other servers and now its down to three. Maybe if everybody would stop trying to be witty on their post and actually try to get themselves to be heard , this subject wouldnt be recurrent , its a shame that everytime you visit the server where your main character is (recursion) you find yourself talking to the same three people, and getting items you dont need because theres nothing to use it on.

The only logistical reason I can see for not merging Recursion and Syntax is that then you would have 6 character slots on Syntursion and only 3 on Vector.  I have all 9 character spaces filled up so picking 3 to bring over to the new server is not an option.

The 9 servers were merged into 3 because of low population when we were transfered from Lith to SOE.  And while low population is the main reason why people are calling for this new merge. 

I've looked but can't find an instance of a dev commenting on the idea of the merge.  Probably overlooked it though.

Personally, I don't want the merge either, but I understand the reasoning.

ArchDuke wrote:

Jahzel-Jah wrote:

I agree with the merge, as for why does this subject emerge or something new is posted about it, its because its always buried and forgotten, mainly all i see is people from syntax that dont agree on the merge..Why?... have any devs participated on the other threads before? Ive heard  MXO had several or more than three at least other servers and now its down to three. Maybe if everybody would stop trying to be witty on their post and actually try to get themselves to be heard , this subject wouldnt be recurrent , its a shame that everytime you visit the server where your main character is (recursion) you find yourself talking to the same three people, and getting items you dont need because theres nothing to use it on.

The only logistical reason I can see for not merging Recursion and Syntax is that then you would have 6 character slots on Syntursion and only 3 on Vector.  I have all 9 character spaces filled up so picking 3 to bring over to the new server is not an option.

The 9 servers were merged into 3 because of low population when we were transfered from Lith to SOE.  And while low population is the main reason why people are calling for this new merge. 

I've looked but can't find an instance of a dev commenting on the idea of the merge.  Probably overlooked it though.

Personally, I don't want the merge either, but I understand the reasoning.

Might be a good idea to revisit this idea in January.  You think Recursion's dead now?  Oh, Lordy! 

I do think it would be odd to have 2 servers with one server that lets you have 6 characters (Syncursion) and one that allows you to have 3 characters (Vector).  I guess the only fair thing would be to add three slots to Vector.  That might not be a bad idea, actually.  Then you have two servers, one hostile, one nonhostile, with an equal amount of slots. 

Thats actually a good idea, more slots per server. Currently we have 2 servers with the same purpose, one of them practically dead, the other is Ok ... i think its the reasonable thing to do.

Yeah, I'd like it. There'd be more to talk to, help with content; PvP, ect.

But however, I hardly ever think this is going to happen, sadly. :/

this would also help rarebit i believe in his new initiative. everyone would be one server, whole server party, every org meeting on the same server, live events when he does on the same server...probably some other things, i think it would make it easier for him anyways

Fuuuuuuuuuuusion! HA!

Syntursion ftw?

Bayamos wrote:

I'd prefer if all the people who exploit duped their crew banks on Recursion didn't come over to Syntax and wreck the economy there. Let Recursion die.

And thats like what....5-10 people who still play?  I don't think it'll be that bad.

I say merge all three servers and flag everyone for pvp at level 30.  You can't lose.  There will be more rp, pvp, rpvp, and more to do.  Everybody wins.

JEasy wrote:

I say merge all three servers and flag everyone for pvp at level 30. You can't lose. There will be more rp, pvp, rpvp, and more to do. Everybody wins.

Except for people who don't want to be flagged 24/7.

Think your concept through a little more and come back and tell me why it is, in fact, a bad idea.

Pylat wrote:

JEasy wrote:

I say merge all three servers and flag everyone for pvp at level 30. You can't lose. There will be more rp, pvp, rpvp, and more to do. Everybody wins.

Except for people who don't want to be flagged 24/7.

If you think the population is low now, forcing PvP on those that don't want to be flagged isn't really going to help.

Personally I don't want a merge now. If there was a mass exodus from MxO as some people are predicting for after Christmas, then I may be convinced otherwise.

I'm just saying if we're talking merge then add a little spice to it.  The Megacity is big enough for people to find areas they can go if they're afraid of being attacked.  I used level 30 because that's when you can run the current storyline. Something should be done to get the excitement level back up in this game.  It would also be easier for the devs to implement the new content as someone mentioned before.

Vinia wrote:

Pylat wrote:

JEasy wrote:

I say merge all three servers and flag everyone for pvp at level 30. You can't lose. There will be more rp, pvp, rpvp, and more to do. Everybody wins.

Except for people who don't want to be flagged 24/7.

If you think the population is low now, forcing PvP on those that don't want to be flagged isn't really going to help.

Personally I don't want a merge now. If there was a mass exodus from MxO as some people are predicting for after Christmas, then I may be convinced otherwise.

agreed..my thinking is that it should be divided into 2 servers, simple non-hostile and hostile server, makes job easier on devs, and more population, would be a happy medium for everyone.

I agree Jahzel.

JEasy wrote:

I'm just saying if we're talking merge then add a little spice to it.  The Megacity is big enough for people to find areas they can go if they're afraid of being attacked.  I used level 30 because that's when you can run the current storyline. Something should be done to get the excitement level back up in this game.  It would also be easier for the devs to implement the new content as someone mentioned before.

Thats why this was (albeit brought up again) a thread about a Recursion/Syntax Merge and not a 3 server merge. It would allow people the choice to play how they want to play.

I think the hostile vs non-hostile issue isn't really the issue.  It's population.  One thing we can probably agree on is that their is a dedicated fanbase spread across all three servers, and then folks who "come and go". Again if you're talking server merge why not bring the dedicated base together in one place.  Maybe being flagged at 30 can be debated but if that were the case, would it be that bad of a trade-off to interact with more players.  More pop makes the content more fun imo.

JEasy wrote:

I think the hostile vs non-hostile issue isn't really the issue.  It's population.  One thing we can probably agree on is that their is a dedicated fanbase spread across all three servers, and then folks who "come and go". Again if you're talking server merge why not bring the dedicated base together in one place.  Maybe being flagged at 30 can be debated but if that were the case, would it be that bad of a trade-off to interact with more players.  More pop makes the content more fun imo.

I opened this thread to discuss the Recursion/syntax issue... please if you want to discuss Vector do another   Vector has its own purpose.. I dont think we should merge the 3. Anyway, I would really like for people to comment on Recursion/Syntax. Thank you!

Ballak wrote:

This thread is now about ಠ_ಠ

I call hax on your avatar(s).

Mass exodus after Christmas? The mass exodus has already happened. What's it gonna take? For the numbers to get down to 50 people per server? 25? 5?

Personally, I think we haven't had a merge yet because SOE pays to have three servers for this game, so three servers it's gonna have. Doesn't have a *censored* thing to do with server pop or players wishes.  

Avath wrote:lol..Syntax/Recursion merge ftw

JEasy wrote:

I think the hostile vs non-hostile issue isn't really the issue. It's population. One thing we can probably agree on is that their is a dedicated fanbase spread across all three servers, and then folks who "come and go". Again if you're talking server merge why not bring the dedicated base together in one place. Maybe being flagged at 30 can be debated but if that were the case, would it be that bad of a trade-off to interact with more players. More pop makes the content more fun imo.

I opened this thread to discuss the Recursion/syntax issue... please if you want to discuss Vector do another Vector has its own purpose.. I dont think we should merge the 3. Anyway, I would really like for people to comment on Recursion/Syntax. Thank you!

lol..Syntax/Recursion merge ftw

There are new people playing the game, and as time changes people minds can change too. Ive seen old posts and the approach is different, and Recusion is not as low as now. In many threads conversations changes topic because of this, because of graphics issues, or other topics (like spam) and nothing gets done. I hope de devs can tell us something about this, since many Recusion People are wondering about it. Its silly to post to say posting in it is spam.

Merge for what? So Syntax can flame Recursion and tell everyone from that server to log, cause they can't go back to anything lolz.

I don't really see a reason for this to not happen, personally, I'd like to just move my Main Skull086 from Recursion to Syntax just for giggles, though I knew Recursion was dead about 3 months ago, which is why I made SkilledNoob, which is sometimes better then my main due to his awsome rp skillz and the fact that he can be any org I choose from 1 mission.

Course if they could, just add my main's CQ count to my new main SkilledNoob cause everytime I go on Recursion I pwn one or two hjing noobs then get bored cause they all run away with knife wombs in their lower extremidies. I would like to reach 15k CQs with my main, but am unable even though I'm like 160 cqs away, no pvp = bored quicker on Recursion, then I log and head to Syntax to pwn teh pros and nubs over there.

I am Skull086, and I approve this message for a better tomarrow, Merge teh servers and add more cowbell to all teh noobs that sneak constantly so we can at least hear em coming and pwn kthxbai.

Normally I'd say spam, dead horse, etc.

BUT with the new changes and an extremely likely population exodus after the Holidays (if not sooner), things that seemed ridiculous even a few months ago might be worth taking a new look. 

If this were a poll, I'd vote merge syntax and recursion asap.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Mass exodus after Christmas? The mass exodus has already happened. What's it gonna take? For the numbers to get down to 50 people per server? 25? 5?

Personally, I think we haven't had a merge yet because SOE pays to have three servers for this game, so three servers it's gonna have. Doesn't have a *censored* thing to do with server pop or players wishes.  

I believe this statement, Recursion and Vector notice it more because we already have fewer players so when you loose one it has more of an impact. I'm sure it's happening on Syntax too but it is not yet as noticeable. Players have been leaving for some time now at a greater rate than we are replacing them. While the holidays may bring some people back we know they are only temporary.

I personally don't understand why some players on Syntax have to be selfish. Let Recursion merge with you as I have not heard a single compelling reason why they shouldn't be allowed other than server pride.

Eventually though and I predict within 2009 if SOE doesn't so something this game will be history. I am a veteran of the game, passionate about it but when I login, see fewer and fewer people to RP with or PVP with and all I do is farm gear cause thats all there is to do because of poor decision making on those who have the power then even I who said I would be here till the end question if thats what I want to do now.

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

*edited*  The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Post edited. Reason Code 004: Flaming.

And what would happen to my characters on the other servers I hold onto dearly.

Hmrph

Tranque101 wrote:

And what would happen to my characters on the other servers I hold onto dearly.

Hmrph

We can have more slots, since it will be down to 2 servers

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Thank you.  Thank you.  I thought I had been crazy until I figured out that one of the aforementioned forum thugs shot down every single thoughtful and reasonable post of mine in the past couple weeks.  It isn't based on any type of rational thought it's based on scoring petty forum cq's and trying to all be clever and 4channy, while trying to quash constructive feedback right off of the boards.  Well, not this time.

Anyways I'm with you 1000% although as a happy medium I'd say lets try 2 servers, 1 hostile and 1 nonhostile, Syncursion and Vector, 6 slots each.  If someone has all 9 slots filled the extra 3 would be a nice incentive to check out Vector.  Its win all around.  Two servers, 33% workload removed for Rare, and a shot in the arm to a declining population.  Otherwise, on Recursion you might as well hax and shoot at tumbleweeds.

RollsRoyce wrote:

This is what we have to continue to fight against. lets tell these fourm nazis no, we will not go where they want us to go. they can go, if they have nothing meaninful to disscuss. we will not be moved. the server merger is coming. Those of us that want it must continue to make our voices heard must continue to do so.

No ballak i will not go, you can go to hell.

And those opposed to a merge? Will you have them silent? What makes you any better than them?

Regardless, like it or not Ballak's post stating...

"there's no need to make another thread about it, because the only reason for people to post in it, would be to repost their opinions from the original thread about the same topic, thus generating spam."

...was right on the money. All of these posts (aside from the posts that have already been said in said thread) could have been added to the previous threads about it instead of creating another spam fest here regardless of the good intentions. These forums still show, most of the time believe it or not, the latest post in a thread, so the older threads still would have shown up allowing the new poster's post to be seen.

It's not naziism, it's common sense, and it doesn't feed the trolls.

The merge is getting more appropriate as time rolls on, and as more changes occur to the game. I'm in favor of it.

Or in favor of choosing which server you can play on. For example, choosing the character you want to play as and then choosing the server you want to play on. Recursion and Syntax. I can see the arguement that it is harder to level on vector than the others. I disagree, but I am sure the early days were more difficult than lately.

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Godwin's Law is still in effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin..._Nazi_Analogies

Personally, I'm neither for nor against a server merge. If it happens, it happens. However, since all my character slots on Recursion and Syntax are full, I really don't want to have to sacrifice any of them, in case that was one of the conditions of a merge.

MatrixRefugee wrote:

RollsRoyce wrote:

recursion, syntax, and vector should all merge onto one server because there simply isn't the population to support 3 servers. Add to that the game only has 3 developers to run making the game, story characters, and other behind the scenes stuff and then to do it 3 times over is just reduntant. this is how i see the future, 1 server, turn westview into a pvp district. the number of character slots would be increased to 9.

I find it very unfair that fourm nazis like cadsuane, ballak and the rest of their ilk run meaningful discussion off the forums while continuing to run the game by fiat via their posts. The discussion of a server merger will not end until there is one. I am calling on the devs, as they're popularly known, to begin the process of merging the servers.

It is amazing that meaninful discussion is considered spaming. I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Godwin's Law is still in effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin..._Nazi_Analogies

Personally, I'm neither for nor against a server merge. If it happens, it happens. However, since all my character slots on Recursion and Syntax are full, I really don't want to have to sacrifice any of them, in case that was one of the conditions of a merge.

That would defeat the whole purpose.  They would simply merge, and you'd have 6 characters on Syncursion

I can't speak to Vector, although adding three additional slots to balance things out would be quite nice, the more I think about it.

Nice & simple.

Im still asking myself why it has to be so hard to try to make a point here. If I want to make suggestions for the development of the game.. I post on Development Roundtable, as I did. I dont go searching for merge threads on a part of the forum where its dedicated to discuss tactics of combat (player vs player). Either way, THIS thread i think its very different from that one, or from other old ones. Why?

1)Because MXO is not what it was a year ago, some crazy people may think its growing but the fact is: its not, people are leaving actually.

2) Because Im not starting this thread with a "Im drooling just to think of the pvp". Nor Im trying to make this thread one of "you recursion poeple will be lambs here in pvp", or to discuss which server is better. This is a mature (hoping) thread, for the discussion of the QUALITY of the game, how to make it BETTER. Its not a syntax vs recursion vs vector thread. And if I feel that what I have to bring to the Roundtable is a new approach to see it, so be it, I pay for the game too and its my right to do it. And If I want to make it right, I do it myself.

I just want to make it fair for those who have a main character on a dead server, like myself. And by doing that we can actually have a better game, where time can be employed for a better development instead of making the same things for different servers (speacially when one of them is practically empty). By concentrating more on just one non hostile server, i think its a win-win situation.

Now, If you want to keep wasting this space by saying more than one time (spam?) that it is spam.... go ahead.

I think the whole "But I might lose characters!!!" argument is a moot point. It seems stupidly clear to me that if the devs were ever to merge the servers the last thing they would do is force players to delete RSI's. I think it's a bit of a forgone conclusion the devs would do their best to preserve peoples characters and not annoy the player base by reducing overall character slots.

As for reasons behind merging servers, if the Recursion player base is as small as they claim then their might be good reason to merge the servers. Over here on Syntax there's a fair number of players so clearly from my side it looks like a merge is unnecessary, but for the sake of Recursion players we might actually have to merge the servers.

As for people who are complaining that this is spam, report the thread and move on with life. Don't fill it up with your own brand of "Forum Police Spam". That is all.

Avath wrote:

Im still asking myself why it has to be so hard to try to make a point here. If I want to make suggestions for the development of the game.. I post on Development Roundtable, as I did. I dont go searching for merge threads on a part of the forum where its dedicated to discuss tactics of combat (player vs player). Either way, THIS thread i think its very different from that one, or from other old ones. Why?

1)Because MXO is not what it was a year ago, some crazy people may think its growing but the fact is: its not, people are leaving actually.

2) Because Im not starting this thread with a "Im drooling just to think of the pvp". Nor Im trying to make this thread one of "you recursion poeple will be lambs here in pvp", or to discuss which server is better. This is a mature (hoping) thread, for the discussion of the QUALITY of the game, how to make it BETTER. Its not a syntax vs recursion vs vector thread. And if I feel that what I have to bring to the Roundtable is a new approach to see it, so be it, I pay for the game too and its my right to do it. And If I want to make it right, I do it myself.

I just want to make it fair for those who have a main character on a dead server, like myself. And by doing that we can actually have a better game, where time can be employed for a better development instead of making the same things for different servers (speacially when one of them is practically empty). By concentrating more on just one non hostile server, i think its a win-win situation.

Now, If you want to keep wasting this space by saying more than one time (spam?) that it is spam.... go ahead.

I agree, and it's not about pvp mainly, It would be nice to see what recursion RP has to offer.

And of course recursion is deadish..

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Thanks, and I have to agree, There is something different about this thread, more people are agreeing about the merge.. So you have done right by it Avath

We all have our opinions and we might disagree but it shouldn't turn into an arguement

Might aswell get a few +1's in.

Hm, where to start. Ok, I'd have little interest in merging Recursion and Syntax. Why? I play on vector, I've got 50's on both of the other servers so either way I don't really care.

If we merged all three servers? That'd be cool. I'm happy with how things are now, things are not as bleak as people say they are, but heck even if it was merged into a non-hostile server I absolutely wouldn't care about losing the 24/7 hostility. The so called 'realism' of 24/7 PvP is a veil people hide behind, frankly. If you want realism in the mega city you'd want an active, prospering mega city with good numbers of players, reds on all sides, strong roleplay and, wow, you can create a macro to be 24/7 PvP flagged too if it's that big a deal. Macros are rather handy after all.

Having said all that, doomsday is not approaching. The servers population are not what they once were, no, but unless there's been a HUGE change since Fan Faire, subs were actually higher this year than last. Now INB4THEYWOULDN'TTELLYOUOTHERWISE, because, in big fairness to the MxO team we got a lot of realism and honest truths from them. So, I'm not particularly displeased if there was to be no merge. (Which there won't be)

Where would we go after a server merge? Another thing we noticed at Fan Faire, people either said 'WHEN DOES MXO COME OUT?' or 'ISN'T MXO DEAD?' Now, excusing the former, servers merging would do nothing but enhanced the latter and we've had some fairly decent articles written about us over the past year if I remember correctly, SO, servers being merged together... I don't think they'd report about that in a positive light. How would that make the game look to potential subscribers? I know what I'd say, 'Put it to sleep'.

Whatever, I basically wasted my time typing this up because as so many people have pointed out there's multiple threads about this and they've not gone anywhere. Actually, by stating this I'm probably going to get accused of having a Nazi background of some kind.

In the words of the Special One... Do it!

KoenhX wrote:

Thanks, and I have to agree, There is something different about this thread, more people are agreeing about the merge.. So you have done right by it Avath

I would say thats down to the current situation with the new approach and the view of some that, after the winter event, a lot of people will be inclined to leave rather than someone creating yet another thread on the same topic as all those other threads.

I would rather be accused of being 'ZOMG Forum Police/Nazi' by telling people to use the handy search function and post in the already made and appropriate threads then have to trawl through 6,7,8+ threads on the same topic most of which have the same people saying the same things, just in case one bright spark puts forward a decent undeniable reason why we should or should not want such an merge.

In the past Syntax was going through a low population time so I know how some Recursion players might feel. We are used to it on Syntax, I think Vector had a similar thing also.

I would prefer a merge, all three servers, make international & downtown flagged, keeping richland and westview non flagged. The only problem I can see would be over spamming at the org meetings but I think that is going to be a problem regardless.

To me its simply a matter of having a larger population.

Whats the point in playing if you have noone to play with?  Most of the time ive spent away has been for this exact reason.

Once again, we have an active discussion about merging the game servers. Not bad, since I see some new names in this one; it's not the same old tired people arguing back and forth.

And once again, the naysayers come out to beat up on the OP rather than make valid arguments against his/her idea. Why? Because their arguments against the idea itself suck; they're lame (OMGMXOESMUERTA), petty (OMGTOONDEELEESHUN), and trite (OMGDRAMAZ).

Anyway, this is for you new people. I'll post my obligatory comment about server merges in the interest of keeping things moving in the right direction. Or at least in the same circle. And I won't say a thing about that other thing I've been keeping up.

Reasons for Server Merge

• Consolidating the RP servers decreases the confusion for new players when trying to decide which server to start out on to one easy choice; the PvP or the RP
• Increased population means more chances for social activities, general socializing, RP, PvP, and gives a general feeling of a more populated game.
• Increases the number of Live Events held on each of the remaining servers. If it were split evenly, for example, one week Vector gets 3 LE's, while the new RPvP server gets 2. And then the next week, they switch.
• LE focus and quality will increase as there will be more Liaison Officers available to plan and help each other out playing secondary roles and such.
• Eliminates the need to level main chars on more than two servers.
• Opens a server to be used as a test server for QA. This means that huge changes to the game (such as Org Abilities and possibly even new ability trees) could be revisted and tweaked so that they could be included in the game.

Reasons against Server Merge

• Increased population will likely cause a heavier load on the server, intensifying the lag effect
• Less servers in play may give the perception of a "dead" or "dying" game.
• Higher congestion in new content areas (Sati's Playground, Datamine, etc)
• Apparently toxic levels of drama from the members of the Recursion server
• Most players already have alts on the other servers anyway

I am leaving out the "Increased population at Live Events" reason, because that cuts both ways, and cancels itself out. Some would prefer more people at LE's, some less.

Now I was as fair as I could be in the descriptions and counting of reasons, but obviously I am biased. Hence, this is why we discuss these things. If you want to argue the merrits of each of these reasons and their validity, fine. But if all you want to do is troll ("no. Just, no.") or spam server pride, keep in mind that your posts will be reported as such to the mods.

Its the name if its a spam and why contest!!! obviously some people have a problem with this thread since its not where they want it to be.so they keep going off subject spamming "spam"..grow up already!!!

as somebody  said theres a lot of threads about it and very dead threads too, not one dev showed and responded on the other ones. but no we have to take the word from other players that shutdown any idea thats in the developement section cause they dont have none of their own. Please stop spammin this thread.

Recursion is the dead horse by the way, nobody that gets a trial key not to talk about a subscriber  would stick around in an empty server, they would go running to syntax or dont play at all. so this merge is really in benefit for the recursion players, but im starting to see most of the objections has to do with server pride...shame shame

nice post, Feng

To me the pros far outweigh the cons in your list Shi.

Even looking at the cons one could argue that higher congestion in new content areas is a pro.  Primary example would be Datamine.  More people in there would be a good thing.  It is far too easy to go in there and farm yourself a 50mil in no time.  With more people its going to be more of a risk etc etc.

As for Recursion specific drama... well i cant comment as i dont play there regularly, however im pretty sure there are equal drama on all servers and im even more sure that in time if there was said drama then it would soon dissapear creating a whole new SUPERDRAMA!  Some people may even thrive off apparent drama seeing it as an oppertunity to show these naysayers hows it done!

Those are the two examples i can think of.