The Watchmen

So uh, who is going to be watching the Watchmen this weekend/tonight? :p

Ebola wrote:

So uh, who is going to be watching the Watchmen this weekend/tonight? :p

I may be attending tonight, yes...

I too will be attending... well that Is because i'll be working tonight

Its out tomorrow for us english people (aka the friday) and I booked my tickets on monday so I'm definetly going.

Ebola wrote:

So uh, who is going to be watching the Watchmen this weekend/tonight? :p

Friday afternoon for me 

Sunday for me.

A friend of mine in NYC had sneak preview tickets to this and warned me not to go when it came out here. I hated 300 and was really disapponted to learn that its director would be taking on the number one graphic novel ever. Sounds like they managed to get the Comedian and Rorschach right which is very important but all the other crap that went wrong sounds downright painful. Alan must be beside himself. He wasn't even pleased with V for Vendetta which admittedly was chopped up and resized quite a bit from the novel but the main theme of the story was intact and of course there was Hugo and Natalie to make us all happy along the way, thanks again Wachowskis, I loved the movie anyway. I'm a pretty hardcore purist about my graphic novel characters and stories and hate seeing them twisted and warped beyond recognition which is what reports about Watchmen seem to be telling me. Also I don't need to see some giant blue CGI wang flinging across the IMAX screen.... seriously..I know Dr. Manhattan was naked in most of the book but... what the phò??

So, for those who have seen it *and no spoilers please* is there anything after the credits?

I'm not terribly psyched about yet another superhero movie, but I might see it tonight.  Only reason it's really interested me is that MisterPuck voiced a character in Curse of the Black Freighter.

Black Freighter is an animated movie you have to buy seperatly oh and...

Watchmen is amazing, its not a "typical" super hero movie, go see it. I just got back, its great ^_^

Just go tback from theater. Best comic book movie ever....

Actually, scratch that. Best movie ever. Period.

Just watched it...  I give it a thumbs up.

Fen wrote:

I'm not terribly psyched about yet another superhero movie, but I might see it tonight.  Only reason it's really interested me is that MisterPuck voiced a character in Curse of the Black Freighter.

Mmm. I'm not much of a superhero fan, but I *am* a fan of Watchmen, since Alan Moore pretty much turned the whole genre on its ear when he created it. I was explaining the story to a bus driver-buddy of mine and I described it as being "what would probably happen if there really were superheroes. Some would probably get burnt out by their own abilities and there probably would be a government ban on bands of costumed crusaders".

Edited to add: MisterPuck did one of the voices in "Curse of the Black Freighter"? Okay, I was going to pre-order the DVD, now I'm going to be hard put *not* to camp out in front of Blockbuster the day it comes out.

I loved it. Like the Dark Knight, it's long, dark and intense (as it should be, just like the graphic novels) so it's not something I'll run out and see again any time soon, but it's a great piece of art that should be seen by anyone remotely interested by the subject matter or super heroes in general.

So I heard there's a lot of flapping blue willy goin' on. Is this true, cuz I don't wanna have to stare at a glowing fun stick for too long.

There is, but you are rewarded with boobies and a nice bum in the end, so its worth it.

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

So I heard there's a lot of flapping blue willy goin' on. Is this true, cuz I don't wanna have to stare at a glowing fun stick for too long.

Its really not all that distracting. They don't draw attention to it (as opposed to the recent GTA expansion). It's just... there. Its a body part. Just blue.

I just got back from seeing the movie. It was my first taste to the world of "The Watchmen" and I think that the idea alone was genius. The style and presentation of the movie was done very well and overall I think it was a great movie. I'm not a big fan of comic books/graphic novels, and I have very little background knowledge of movies like this, but in my opinion "Watchmen" was a must-see.

I went with a friend who was VERY distracted by "little Dr. Manhattan" but it didn't seem to phase me.  Once you get into the movie you barely notice it.  But I was pretty taken aback when I first saw that it wasn't going to go away because I thought the trailers had him with his black thong on, but now that I think about it they must have either tastefully cropped the images or digitally put the thong on him.

It reminds me of the "I Love You, Man" trailers.  The rated R trailer and the G rated trailer have the same footage, but they've digitally dubbed over all the cussing to make it more appropriate.  It really tricks you because all the sudden those scenes come up and it's totally not what you heard on the commercial.

But anyway, it was an awesome movie!

Weird, the only time Dr. Manhatten is ever completely naked in the comic is when he was "created". After that he always wears that thong =/

Shinryu wrote:

So, for those who have seen it *and no spoilers please* is there anything after the credits?

NOpe... just credits...

I just got back from the movie...  it wasn't anything special for me.  It was good, just not my thing.

it was good I was just really tired during it. About the docs little doc to me it looked really flat for some reason like his muscles and stuff in 3d but he was flat down there.

overall a very good movie even though i didnt read the comic.

I saw it tonight. It was okay, but I just couldn't get to into it. Visuals were nice, though.

Yeah, as far as intriguing works of fiction go, this was a great story.

As a movie. . .not so much. The characters just didn't translate to screen very well, and the way the whole Nixon thing was handled just made the very notion ridiculous. Gratuitous violence and sex, albeit ultra-realistic, is just not my cup of tea. But the underlying theme of the barbarity and despair of human nature, well . . . if I want to be depressed over the various grotesqueries of the human condition, I can pick up a newspaper. I don't need to spend $25 at the theater for it.

I guess the most telling aspect of this movie is the fact that, on opening weekend, at the 9pm showing in one of the busiest theaters in middle Tennessee, they were only showing it in one of the four big screening rooms. And there were barely 30 people in there with us. The 'R' rating headed off the majority of the potential audience, and the movies overall depressing tone, one that probably did incredibly well in the graphic novel, will prove to bury this film where no one will remember it.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Yeah, as far as intriguing works of fiction go, this was a great story.

As a movie. . .not so much. The characters just didn't translate to screen very well, and the way the whole Nixon thing was handled just made the very notion ridiculous. Gratuitous violence and sex, albeit ultra-realistic, is just not my cup of tea. But the underlying theme of the barbarity and despair of human nature, well . . . if I want to be depressed over the various grotesqueries of the human condition, I can pick up a newspaper. I don't need to spend $25 at the theater for it.

I guess the most telling aspect of this movie is the fact that, on opening weekend, at the 9pm showing in one of the busiest theaters in middle Tennessee, they were only showing it in one of the four big screening rooms. And there were barely 30 people in there with us. The 'R' rating headed off the majority of the potential audience, and the movies overall depressing tone, one that probably did incredibly well in the graphic novel, will prove to bury this film where no one will remember it.

$25! That  way way to much to see any movie at a normal theater.  When I seen The Dark Night at the IMAX in Austin it was only 12 bucks and thats an upgraded experience.  Drinks and Popcorn included still way over priced. 

And the motion picture folks wonder why people bootleg.

Thought it was quite good.

Thought it was fairly win myself.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Yeah, as far as intriguing works of fiction go, this was a great story.

As a movie. . .not so much. The characters just didn't translate to screen very well, and the way the whole Nixon thing was handled just made the very notion ridiculous. Gratuitous violence and sex, albeit ultra-realistic, is just not my cup of tea. But the underlying theme of the barbarity and despair of human nature, well . . . if I want to be depressed over the various grotesqueries of the human condition, I can pick up a newspaper. I don't need to spend $25 at the theater for it.

I guess the most telling aspect of this movie is the fact that, on opening weekend, at the 9pm showing in one of the busiest theaters in middle Tennessee, they were only showing it in one of the four big screening rooms. And there were barely 30 people in there with us. The 'R' rating headed off the majority of the potential audience, and the movies overall depressing tone, one that probably did incredibly well in the graphic novel, will prove to bury this film where no one will remember it.

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ShiXinFeng wrote:

The 'R' rating headed off the majority of the potential audience, and the movies overall depressing tone, one that probably did incredibly well in the graphic novel, will prove to bury this film where no one will remember it.

While I certainly hope the movie doesn't end up buried, I do think the choice of going for an R rating was a good one.  Yes it almost definitely drastically reduced the amount of money the movie will bring in, but it also allowed content to be brought over directly from the comic books without requiring reworking, rethinking or massive editing.  The rating also serves to separate Watchmen from other comic book based movies in some ways, and this was reinforced by the ad campaign.  It's not meant to fall within the same category as the Spiderman Movies, Iron Man Movies, Transformers Movies, etc.  It's not a slam bang popcorn action movie, just like the comic books weren't the typical slam bang action comics.

Shinryu wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

The 'R' rating headed off the majority of the potential audience, and the movies overall depressing tone, one that probably did incredibly well in the graphic novel, will prove to bury this film where no one will remember it.

While I certainly hope the movie doesn't end up buried, I do think the choice of going for an R rating was a good one.  Yes it almost definitely drastically reduced the amount of money the movie will bring in, but it also allowed content to be brought over directly from the comic books without requiring reworking, rethinking or massive editing.  The rating also serves to separate Watchmen from other comic book based movies in some ways, and this was reinforced by the ad campaign.  It's not meant to fall within the same category as the Spiderman Movies, Iron Man Movies, Transformers Movies, etc.  It's not a slam bang popcorn action movie, just like the comic books weren't the typical slam bang action comics.

Well said Shinryu. Excuse my rough quote, but Zack Snyder once said how his mother used to subscribe him to these Heavy Metal comics which were heavily graphic. His friends showed him the common superhero comics, and he was like "When do they start ****ing and killing each other?" Then when he read Watchmen, it was exactly what he was looking for. Watchmen is an incredibly graphic graphic novel.

Oh I get it, completely. As I said, it was a brilliant story. I'm just saying that I left the theater feeling worse about life than when I went in. If that's what the director was going for, then hat's off to him.

That's not really why I go to the movies though. At the very least, the lead character dies for a good reason or leaves behind an unforgettable legacy. After this movie though, I just felt. . .down.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like this is one story that should never been made a movie.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Oh I get it, completely. As I said, it was a brilliant story. I'm just saying that I left the theater feeling worse about life than when I went in. If that's what the director was going for, then hat's off to him.

That's not really why I go to the movies though. At the very least, the lead character dies for a good reason or leaves behind an unforgettable legacy. After this movie though, I just felt. . .down.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like this is one story that should never been made a movie.

They changed the ending to Dodgeball because of folks like you.  The original ending was suppose to be the Joes team lost to the purple Cobras and Steve the Pirate was suppose to find his treasure and they open up a new Gym down the road.    The test audience didnt like it because it wasnt a happy ending so they changed it to where the Joes won.  Ben Still say something about it in the credits when he does the milk shake song.

Theres nothing wrong with going to see a movie for a happy ending.  Thats why some folks go to the movies.  They want E.T. to make it home and not get shot and put in Area 51 because everyone knows thats what really would have happen.

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

nubious81 wrote:

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

I believe the director's cut will just include the Black Freighter stuff, so it shouldn't really change the overall experience of the movie other than extra fanboy content.

TheShickle wrote:

nubious81 wrote:

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

I believe the director's cut will just include the Black Freighter stuff, so it shouldn't really change the overall experience of the movie other than extra fanboy content.

According to Puck, who worked on the movie, there's other stuff.

Probably things like the psychologist's side story and the death of Hollis Mason.

TheShickle wrote:

nubious81 wrote:

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

I believe the director's cut will just include the Black Freighter stuff, so it shouldn't really change the overall experience of the movie other than extra fanboy content.

There is 3 versions. Theatrical, Directors cut and extended Directors cut. (the latter which has the Black Freighter stuff in)

Neoteny wrote:

TheShickle wrote:

nubious81 wrote:

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

I believe the director's cut will just include the Black Freighter stuff, so it shouldn't really change the overall experience of the movie other than extra fanboy content.

According to Puck, who worked on the movie, there's other stuff.

Probably things like the psychologist's side story and the death of Hollis Mason.

That would be very cool. I always thought both of those were depressingly funny.

odj wrote:

TheShickle wrote:

nubious81 wrote:

I plan on seeing it next week but knowing that there is a fuller cut almost an hours worth im not gonna make my final judment of it till i see that final directors cut.

I believe the director's cut will just include the Black Freighter stuff, so it shouldn't really change the overall experience of the movie other than extra fanboy content.

There is 3 versions. Theatrical, Directors cut and extended Directors cut. (the latter which has the Black Freighter stuff in)

I take it they will be released in that order as well?

Loved it!  I went to an early afternoon showing yesterday, expecting to get in fast and have my choice of seats.  Instead I was lucky to even get a seat -- it was packed!

Lyr

Illyria22 wrote:

Loved it!  I went to an early afternoon showing yesterday, expecting to get in fast and have my choice of seats.  Instead I was lucky to even get a seat -- it was packed!

Lyr

Have you read the graphic novel? If not, it is even more awesome that you like the movie.

Loved the graphic novel too.  I never thought they'd make a movie of it. 

Lyr

For people asking about dvds:

According to an interview with the producers, director's cut will be first release, with extended (aka ultimate) dir. cut a few months after. Director's cut may get theatrical release in summer if movie does well now. Hollis scenes are confirmed for d. cut... in fact, some were even in certain trailers and tv spots. Were only cut so that it could fit on an imax projector.

CPT_Starschwar wrote:

For people asking about dvds:

According to an interview with the producers, director's cut will be first release, with extended (aka ultimate) dir. cut a few months after. Director's cut may get theatrical release in summer if movie does well now. Hollis scenes are confirmed for d. cut... in fact, some were even in certain trailers and tv spots. Were only cut so that it could fit on an imax projector.

Thank you.

Looks like they're already working on that Saturday morning cartoon.

ArchDuke wrote:

Looks like they're already working on that Saturday morning cartoon.

ahahaha thats great.

especially rorshak being a nice guy and loving animals, hacket to there heads!

went to go see it thursday last week, great film

As I noted before, I wasn't too blown away or anything by the movie, but I went to go see it again with some friends who hadn't seen it and I liked a lot the second time. I think it's because I picked up a lot of things I missed the first time around and I didn't have the wrong expectations going into it.