It would be nice to see a greater population density, but its not worth it. I agree, we should probably be trying to pass out those buddy keys.
Syntax + Recursion MERGE!
223 posts · 2008-02-14 22:48:39 to 2008-11-18 07:42:03
Please Note: I didn't say how, I'm not making claim to our server being "better" @ PVP or anything like that. I just think when all was said and done, it would be the former Syntaxians who had been chewed up and spit out overall.
Perhaps you should back that setence up with some form of evidence?
Like, i dunno... rolling an alt on syntax and try chewing us up and spitting us out.
anyways, enough of the 'better server' banter!
the point is, a server merge could work, but unlikely.
advantages;
but also remember, SOE have staff working on certain servers, if u take 1 of those servers away, u may be looking at a smaller SOE workforce. not good.
moving players around may benefit the short term, but at the end of the day, the best solution is recruiting new people.
so as previous posts state, please read the forums before posting a duplicate topic, and as we discussed before, the answer to a server merge is quite simply;
No.
Carloss
Like, i dunno... rolling an alt on syntax and try chewing us up and spitting us out.
anyways, enough of the 'better server' banter!
the point is, a server merge could work, but unlikely.
advantages;
- Devs/liasons would be able to focus their attention towards 1 less server
- 'could' be an increase in LE's / or better quality LE's
- a more dense population (on the face of it, thats never a bad thing)
- and ofc, more people to PvP with/against
- More drama, server pride etc
- increased server load
but also remember, SOE have staff working on certain servers, if u take 1 of those servers away, u may be looking at a smaller SOE workforce. not good.
moving players around may benefit the short term, but at the end of the day, the best solution is recruiting new people.
so as previous posts state, please read the forums before posting a duplicate topic, and as we discussed before, the answer to a server merge is quite simply;
No.
Carloss
don't know *CENSORED* most of you are talking about. this game is slowly dying. 2 ,3,4 servers isnt going to affect anything on soe's part. it's not like new or more content is gonna be added. only thing really keeping this game going is us. good luck trying to get new recruits to pay 15$ a month to log in to a ghost town or a few people standing around chating and dancing. they got other 3d chat sites that are free for that. lately it's even dead on weekends when it used to be the most populated. whenever i log in it's usally the same people pvpin. yes new recruits would be nice but i don't see that happening enuff to make an impact. people have quit not only cuz they don't have anyone to guide or show them the game,but also cuz there aint crap to do other than missioning/farming. i've found myself logging in less and less,or logging in and logging right out cuz its dead.
as far as drama? pfftt.../ignore,tc chat,fc chat,or just close chat and freakin pvp.ones against server merge are prob the ones dancing or chating all the time. if there is a merge it wont matter what server beats the other,we would still be mixed in by org. i'm sure pvpers would want more people to pvp with no? don't understand why not be for merge.you can make up excuses but bottom line,this game is dying and getting kinda boring.
SERVER MERGE PLZ K THNKZ
Pharaoh420nels wrote:
^ You use the forums? :Odon't know *CENSORED* most of you are talking about. this game is slowly dying. 2 ,3,4 servers isnt going to affect anything on soe's part. it's not like new or more content is gonna be added. only thing really keeping this game going is us. good luck trying to get new recruits to pay 15$ a month to log in to a ghost town or a few people standing around chating and dancing. they got other 3d chat sites that are free for that. lately it's even dead on weekends when it used to be the most populated. whenever i log in it's usally the same people pvpin. yes new recruits would be nice but i don't see that happening enuff to make an impact. people have quit not only cuz they don't have anyone to guide or show them the game,but also cuz there aint crap to do other than missioning/farming. i've found myself logging in less and less,or logging in and logging right out cuz its dead.
as far as drama? pfftt.../ignore,tc chat,fc chat,or just close chat and freakin pvp.ones against server merge are prob the ones dancing or chating all the time. if there is a merge it wont matter what server beats the other,we would still be mixed in by org. i'm sure pvpers would want more people to pvp with no? don't understand why not be for merge.you can make up excuses but bottom line,this game is dying and getting kinda boring.
SERVER MERGE PLZ K THNKZ
Where's that animated GIF of a guy beating a dead horse....
Hell no no other server could possible contain the drama
What drama? From what I've heard, Recursion's almost as much a ghost town as Vector. Which is sad, since it's not hostile.
And Phar is right (holy *poop*, Phar made poast?!), it's not like they would shut down the game at this point just for consolidating the servers.
I think the two non-hostile servers need to get over themselves and bite the bullet. There really isn't any sense in 80% of 500 people (or less) being split up on two huge world servers.
Being serious here, I'm just used to the current population on Syntax. Such and abrupt change would cause problems. Higher congestion when new content is released, so many people at LEs that, like a few old LET events, had chat scroll by so fast it was unreadable. Probably a few minor problems ontop of that.
Zudrag wrote:
people fangirls screaming "YOU CAN DO IT MORPHEUS" and "I BELIEVE" that I struggled to screenshot what he actually said.
Being serious here, I'm just used to the current population on Syntax. Such and abrupt change would cause problems. Higher congestion when new content is released, so many people at LEs that, like a few old LET events, had chat scroll by so fast it was unreadable. Probably a few minor problems ontop of that.Oh God, don't remind me of the LE on Syntax when Morpheus appeared near Mara C and there were so many
Gotta agree with Zudrag.
Mind you, I'm seeing quite a few Bored Vectorians and Recursionites around on Syntax lately.
But yeah, Server Merge? No thanks.
I'd only agree with a merge if we were 100% sure we were going to get and keep the spare server for use as a Test Server.
What happened to the left over Planetside server?
SolidRevolver wrote:
I'd only agree with a merge if we were 100% sure we were going to get and keep the spare server for use as a Test Server.
What happened to the left over Planetside server?
Devoured by The Agency, no doubt.
Merging servers proves we can be content on running on MORE BARE MINIMALS. We need more people to make them give us more servers.
Dead horse topic, please smite mods.
Dead horse topic, please smite mods.
"I think the two non-hostile servers need to get over themselves and bite the bullet. There really isn't any sense in 80% of 500 people (or less) being split up on two huge world servers."
my point exactly. More servers ? whats the point? unless the game goes free or cheaper to play i doubt there will be any mass need..there's people who spent time lvling a char on each server just to jump from one to the other for some kind of action. F that , i couldn't.i got low lvls on other 2 but no desire to go thru all the boredom.
when game was well populated events were the same as they are now..i still see nothing but chat anyways. and being that it is much lower than before it still lags. back when cr2 came out,well populated, same issues with bugs and lag. i doubt numbers are the main problem.
but hey if you like to stand around,chat for 8hrs,dance parties,full screen chat box,mxo cyber,ect.ect by all means keep the boredom up.making me wanna beat a dead horse for real.
Forget it, Phar. The Recursion people think they are too good to mix with us lowly Syntax players. It's a shame, imagine this game with most of the truly dedicated all together. In fact, I think even Vector would see an infusion of new players if there were only two servers to choose from.
Unfortunately, some people can't see the forest for the trees.
ShiXinFeng wrote:
I dunno, looks like a lot of Syntax players in this thread say no too.
Forget it, Phar. The Recursion people think they are too good to mix with us lowly Syntax players. It's a shame, imagine this game with most of the truly dedicated all together. In fact, I think even Vector would see an infusion of new players if there were only two servers to choose from.
Unfortunately, some people can't see the forest for the trees.
I dunno, looks like a lot of Syntax players in this thread say no too.
I seriously cannot see why anyone wouldn't want this. More people, more PvP, more RP, more talking, more parties, more of everything we have now on a bigger scale with just more in general. Imo, it's the best thing they could do for MxO right now.
I could just imagine all three servers PvP factions logging in and being in Mara... I've not seen a sea of Red for close to 18 months now, as I'm sure many of you have not either.
I could just imagine all three servers PvP factions logging in and being in Mara... I've not seen a sea of Red for close to 18 months now, as I'm sure many of you have not either.
It wouldn't be more at all, just the same number squeezed into a smaller space. MxO is growing and needs room to continue growing.
Lol @ Growing.
We playing the same game? Are you paying attention to the launcher when you open MxO? Where you around to see MxO when it was actually populated?
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We playing the same game? Are you paying attention to the launcher when you open MxO? Where you around to see MxO when it was actually populated?
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Hank_22 wrote:
Lol @ Growing.
We playing the same game? Are you paying attention to the launcher when you open MxO? Where you around to see MxO when it was actually populated?
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QFBFR
(quote for being *blinking*' right)
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
Merging servers proves we can be content on running on MORE BARE MINIMALS.What he said
Vinia wrote:
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:Merging servers proves we can be content on running on MORE BARE MINIMALS.What he said
SOE have other priorities though...
>_> <_<
I dont think MxO is going to grow anymore, I think we have leveled off pretty well. Whenever we get a group of people leaving, we also get lots of new players or returning players. Merging the servers would make the remaining servers more populated and make jacking in more fun (in my opinion) but in the long run it may hurt MxO as we may get less subscribers as they see only 2 servers as a sign of a game at the end.
I personally wouldn't look at a game and think "2 servers... must not be very good" but that may be the 2+ years of playing MxO and have seen that small population will never make a MMO bad.
True, but people looking to play this game apparently don't care that we only have three servers. Why would they suddenly care if we only have two? Especially given the "MXO is dead" reputation this game already has in the MMO world.
EDIT:cause I realized what a dumb idea it was.
Hank_22 wrote:
I've not seen a sea of Red for close to 18 months now, as I'm sure many of you have not either.He speak the truth! We only get a puddle now due to the lack of interest in pvp. Its went stale as of late due to various reasons so merge away and give us some fun again
What about the following?
Can a server thread area HANDLE it? Throw all of Recursion and Syntax Zion for example in one small area. Spawn a npc for everyone. The server is seriously stressing at that point just on one server (Recursion Zion event in streets of Achan knocked out Achan & Tabor for about 2 hrs.) Even EPN was there to add to numbers.
Now throw in a PvP Zone and combined server baddies (Rec + Syn Mervs and or Machines). Tell me with a straight face the server wouldn't be tripping balls.
Can a server thread area HANDLE it? Throw all of Recursion and Syntax Zion for example in one small area. Spawn a npc for everyone. The server is seriously stressing at that point just on one server (Recursion Zion event in streets of Achan knocked out Achan & Tabor for about 2 hrs.) Even EPN was there to add to numbers.
Now throw in a PvP Zone and combined server baddies (Rec + Syn Mervs and or Machines). Tell me with a straight face the server wouldn't be tripping balls.
ShiXinFeng is right. Anyone I talk to that asks me how many servers MxO has laughs when I say only 3. Since 3 is a crowd one RPvP server is bound to be the black sheep (not gonna point fingers, Recursion). Why segregate something that is small enough.
However, I understand that doing so may cause the game to buckle under. If that were inevitable, I would advocate keeping 3. The Matrix is supposed to be a vast metropolis, not a barren ghost town.
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
What about the following?
Can a server thread area HANDLE it? Throw all of Recursion and Syntax Zion for example in one small area. Spawn a npc for everyone. The server is seriously stressing at that point just on one server (Recursion Zion event in streets of Achan knocked out Achan & Tabor for about 2 hrs.) Even EPN was there to add to numbers.
Now throw in a PvP Zone and combined server baddies (Rec + Syn Mervs and or Machines). Tell me with a straight face the server wouldn't be tripping balls.
From what you are saying though, Tsus, the server already can't handle it. If the server is already crashing under our current conditions, what's the worst that can happen?
It will crash . . . harder?
Not in the mood for INCREASING server instability. All I have to say.
Considering the amount of people on Recursion I see active, I'd say about 20-30 people max you're adding to Syntax.
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LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
As far as server instability goes, no. Just no.
The servers at the moment are UNDER utilized, they're coasting on EZmode because there are so few people on them.
MxO has seen and handled higher server pops than what we're talking about by merging Recursion and Syntax.
The best argument I've seen for not wanting this is over-crowded Events. But bare in mind with a merge suddenly the liaison's have doubled, the requirement for someone other than Rarebit to play LE characters becomes essential. Multiple Org events happening at once, multiple player events, no one can be everywhere at once, I'm sure you'll find it wouldn't be that bad.
Not in the mood for INCREASING server instability. All I have to say.Not that I play it but EvE online has one world server, it's one of the more popular MMOs on the market.
As far as server instability goes, no. Just no.
The servers at the moment are UNDER utilized, they're coasting on EZmode because there are so few people on them.
MxO has seen and handled higher server pops than what we're talking about by merging Recursion and Syntax.
The best argument I've seen for not wanting this is over-crowded Events. But bare in mind with a merge suddenly the liaison's have doubled, the requirement for someone other than Rarebit to play LE characters becomes essential. Multiple Org events happening at once, multiple player events, no one can be everywhere at once, I'm sure you'll find it wouldn't be that bad.
Hank_22 wrote:
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:Rarebit would could do the same number of events, but more people would get to participate, and there would be something to do every other weekday.Not in the mood for INCREASING server instability. All I have to say.Not that I play it but EvE online has one world server, it's one of the more popular MMOs on the market.
As far as server instability goes, no. Just no.
The servers at the moment are UNDER utilized, they're coasting on EZmode because there are so few people on them.
MxO has seen and handled higher server pops than what we're talking about by merging Recursion and Syntax.
The best argument I've seen for not wanting this is over-crowded Events. But bare in mind with a merge suddenly the liaison's have doubled, the requirement for someone other than Rarebit to play LE characters becomes essential. Multiple Org events happening at once, multiple player events, no one can be everywhere at once, I'm sure you'll find it wouldn't be that bad.
Syntax dosent need to merge with recursion...recursion just needs to become the new test server and recursionites can pick either vector or syntax.
jl10899 wrote:
I've been pretty quiet during this debate... but I kind of like you idea. lolSyntax dosent need to merge with recursion...recursion just needs to become the new test server and recursionites can pick either vector or syntax.
Hank_22 wrote:
As for the rest, if Rarebit wasn't playing all the main characters who would? As much as I trust players to be liaison characters, I don't like the idea of someone who doesn't have a fully contracted job with MxO playing the main characters. This includes continuity, the same person playing the same character in the same way, a way that Rarebit has established already. Without a proper in house team, big events as you suggest would be open to error and miscommunication and could possibly deviate from the story already preplanned by Rarebit at the beginning of the update.
The best argument I've seen for not wanting this is over-crowded Events. But bare in mind with a merge suddenly the liaison's have doubled, the requirement for someone other than Rarebit to play LE characters becomes essential. Multiple Org events happening at once, multiple player events, no one can be everywhere at once, I'm sure you'll find it wouldn't be that bad.The bold part is the exact reason why I wouldn't like to see it happen. The best reason why I've seen for it to take place is perhaps PvP may be a bit better.
As for the rest, if Rarebit wasn't playing all the main characters who would? As much as I trust players to be liaison characters, I don't like the idea of someone who doesn't have a fully contracted job with MxO playing the main characters. This includes continuity, the same person playing the same character in the same way, a way that Rarebit has established already. Without a proper in house team, big events as you suggest would be open to error and miscommunication and could possibly deviate from the story already preplanned by Rarebit at the beginning of the update.
Vast.
Metropolis.
EDIT: Here are the synonyms I was referring to, in case you guys missed them:
Mega.
City.
Put those together and you have Mega City! Addition is tough, I know.
I will shoot whoever even mentions "Capital City."
I'm one of those people for just merging all 3. Recursion and yes my beloved Vector are ghostowns anymore.
The games population is never going to increase,it's a fact,might as well make things fun for us again.
I love pvp but would be willing to give up a bit to get a game with a population, I kind of like the downtown being hostile idea,would go well with the mxo story.
If downtown isn't acceptable give us other things to do in 01 to make it more of an attraction.
Just my 2 cents.
WoKeN wrote:
The clash of Electronic Egos would be epic.
Trust me, if there was a Merge you will see more PvP than you've ever seen in about 2 years.I'm one of those people for just merging all 3. Recursion and yes my beloved Vector are ghostowns anymore.
The games population is never going to increase,it's a fact,might as well make things fun for us again.
I love pvp but would be willing to give up a bit to get a game with a population, I kind of like the downtown being hostile idea,would go well with the mxo story.
If downtown isn't acceptable give us other things to do in 01 to make it more of an attraction.
Just my 2 cents.
The clash of Electronic Egos would be epic.
"Eww... just... eww. No."
you people must be rpeers off in some distant hardline trying to interact with npcs and typing in some great stories. :/
don't know of any other game where people are not for more people to interact with. plz tell me what hardline you guys are at? or club w/e. sure would like to see what you do in game.
Regardless of anyone's opinion in this thread, it still remains that MxO probably has the lowest population that it has ever had. The issues of conflicting egos and drama ratio won't matter if we have no one else to interact with.
Unless anyone in this thread has a better idea that requires little to no funding to bring in a massive amount of subscriptions, this seems like the only viable option to rejuvenate the social aspect of this game that anyone would even begin to consider.
Unless anyone in this thread has a better idea that requires little to no funding to bring in a massive amount of subscriptions, this seems like the only viable option to rejuvenate the social aspect of this game that anyone would even begin to consider.
Marias wrote:
We've had our moments.but agreed 10000% soe please stop the bleeding/ give us some fun in these ends days of mxo
Regardless of anyone's opinion in this thread, it still remains that MxO probably has the lowest population that it has ever had. The issues of conflicting egos and drama ratio won't matter if we have no one else to interact with.
Unless anyone in this thread has a better idea that requires little to no funding to bring in a massive amount of subscriptions, this seems like the only viable option to rejuvenate the social aspect of this game that anyone would even begin to consider.
We've had our moments.but agreed 10000% soe please stop the bleeding/ give us some fun in these ends days of mxo
Well, if they can't get character transferring to work...then I dunno if a merge could happen.
How about an all server merge... of course it would have to be hostile... so you people know what real PvP is... Fector FTW!!!
Mavrick02 wrote:
Fector FTW!!!Yes, Fector ftw...
Mavrick02 wrote:
How about an all server merge... of course it would have to be hostile... so you people know what real PvP is... Fector FTW!!!
Regardless of any apparent low population total there are still those who want to play this game how they want to play. Until you get a 100% pro forced PvP population, then forcing PvP on everyone is a good way to lose more subscriptions.
And yes, to quote Gerik:
Gerik wrote:
Mavrick02 wrote:
Fector FTW!!!Yes, Fector ftw...
For gawd sakes
NO
Mavrick02 wrote:
How about an all server merge... make PVP impossible in the city itself then people will use the constructs for their intended purpose... MxO as strictly speaking it should be FTW!!!
Fixed
Every time a PVP battle breaks out around the city, it is putting and Bluepill that sees it in danger of waking up.
Save a Bluepill, fight in a construct!