75 posts · 2008-01-10 09:30:05 to 2008-01-13 16:30:46
Wow... very, very interesting.
I love the Intruder's voice, sounds like a Decepitcon from the G1 Transformers.
His remark about deletion raises sooo many questions...
As is whatever it is he's looking for, and whatever Morpheus has to do with all of this...
Pretty nifty, and now we know that the Intruder is looking for someone... but who...?
And MorpheuSim seems to think he will fail 
Huh, I just realised... Was that really Laurence Fishburne's voice?
He's probably looking for Neo.
Huh, I just realised... Was that really Laurence Fishburne's voice? If it is, did they get him back for this, did they already have his voice clips ready for this from years back, or have they re-used something?I'm guessing they had a lot of characters do a lot of general lines in case they were needed in the future. Not to impressed with this cinematic personally, not a big fan of this combining game/hand drawn style. The slightly mis-alignment of characters perspectives verses the perspective of the in-game screen shot is very distracting. Plus the fact that the hand drawn looks far to crisp against the pixelated background.
Lastly: Architect gotta eat.*Laughs.* Yeah. He's looking a little thin for someone who sits in a chair all day.
shinpseudo wrote:Prolly cause the fact and rumors saying the Intruder is not from this Matrix Version... Hmmm maybe or maybe not whom knows.Lastly: Architect gotta eat.*Laughs.* Yeah. He's looking a little thin for someone who sits in a chair all day.
And yeah, I agree the Intruder's looking for Neo. But why? If he's Mystery Man, he watched the meeting between Neo and Deus Ex Machina on his screen. What makes him think he's still there?
I wish The Intruder hadn't cut The Architect off mid-line. :'(
I'm glad nobody mentioned my little theory 
I've just spent thirty minutes arguing about this with PN. Personally, i think The Intruder is Commander Lock, bit out there but some things I noticed could point to him.
Now remember, this is just an speculation. I'm not actually SAYING it's Lock.
OK, first things first, the voice, sounds an awful lot like Locks to me if you try to listen past the "Transformers" voice.
Secondly, The Intruder, rumours that he is a free-born, like Lock.
Thirdly, Lock goes missing and The Intruder turns up.
Fourth, Not really a speculation about Lock, more of The Intruder. He asked "Where is the one i want?", if we assume that is Neo, then sooner or later he'll find the "shell" of him. Then perhaps he will go after someone that is closer to Neo. Perhaps Sarah Edmontons? I doubt that she would be mentioned and then just written off as a coincidence, perhaps the idea of her has been saved for now?
Fifth, my final and most bizarre theory but still sort of possible, "You are required." Perhaps Lock wen't insane with the power that he now perhaps has? Perhaps the Machines were planning to use him and he started attacking them because of his state of mind?
Anyway, that's just my theory, t'is also the end of my insane rant. Please for the love of god! Don't flame me for my theory, i'd appreicate replies but not flames.
Thank you.
can someone explain to me HOW morpheus is in the cinematic, i thought he was dead?
Guys, I don't think that was actually the Morpheus sim to be honest. I got the impression that might have been another one created by the Machines to lure him out. We already know they have the capability because they tried to do it to get the codes to Zion's database awhile back. Because as you say, if the Architect can just port in, then why didn't he do it already.
Guys, I don't think that was actually the Morpheus sim to be honest. I got the impression that might have been another one created by the Machines to lure him out. We already know they have the capability because they tried to do it to get the codes to Zion's database awhile back. Because as you say, if the Architect can just port in, then why didn't he do it already.
I agree with Archangel, it seems like the machines may have created this sim, and the intruder saw straight through it. I think he is still looking for the real "Morpheus Sim."
To Metalogic: It makes sense that it may havee been reincarnated for this purpose.
Yea but the machines Morpheus Sim was a failure, so they destroyed it.And we took great pleasure in doing so. Well, I did.
Ru7hL3Ss wrote:I thought the Generals one got deleted, and this one was the one the Machines made by using his memorys and stuff.can someone explain to me HOW morpheus is in the cinematic, i thought he was dead?
The General created a Morpheus sim to fool people into starting the war up, but it became too smart basically.
i do hear that hint of locke in the intruders voice but that just doesnt add up, of course i am missing some story elements from my time /afk.
one thing bothering me, and feel free to bash me but not in a spam way,
why do i feel like the intruder is a lost, perhaps even amnesiac, Neo that is stuck between a role as the one to build a new matrix and the one of this matrix. long shot but it wont quit creeping through my thoughts.
Archangel wrote:The Machine version that was created to attempt to break the archive encryption and failed was the version that got retired. The one in the cinematic is most likely the General's version.Ru7hL3Ss wrote:I thought the Generals one got deleted, and this one was the one the Machines made by using his memorys and stuff.can someone explain to me HOW morpheus is in the cinematic, i thought he was dead?
The General created a Morpheus sim to fool people into starting the war up, but it became too smart basically.
My two cents
Regardless of what intruder is looking for. I think its that guy from silence of the lambs. He needs a people suit.
I think Intruder takes over architects place; architect kills mervo takes his place. Morph sim takes floods job.
It would be nice to see mervo go.
Wishfull thinking FTW
Just to clear things up:
That was the Morpheus sim, the one created by the General, though its now off doing its own thing. The Machines also made one, but it didn't work properly so they deleted it.
Huh, I just realised... Was that really Laurence Fishburne's voice? If it is, did they get him back for this, did they already have his voice clips ready for this from years back, or have they re-used something?Those clips have been in dialog.pkb... or was it dialog1.pkb for years.
If it's not him, they did a damned good job.
Here's the thing about it.... Morpheus's RSI existed for quite some time, albeit corrupted, inside Mara Church, after the Assassin shot him. I remember it... the body would lie there, turn into a swarm of flies, then back again. I think I still have screenies of it. Creepy.
Or maybe that wasn't Morpheus's RSI, just a copy created for effect. I don't remember all the details.
Point is if that the Intruder was looking for Morpheus's RSI, the first place he would look is either where Morpheus was shot or in Mara. I don't believe we've seen him anywhere near those areas yet.
As far as Neo is concerned... Heart O' The City is where Neo really became The One and killed Agent Smith for the first time. (And several times before that in the cycle the Architect so fondly referred to in Reloaded.) Those of us who have been around for a long time remember collecting RSI Frags for a live event (I think it was way back in Chapter 1 or 2); the Intruder may be after those too.
Who knows. I don't.
I really liked this one, although I woulda rather had this meeting in a character-only live event instead of a cinematic because more could have been said. I dunno why the pics are so pixelated all the time, I'd think they could get better shots. The drawings were great this time, didn't love the Intruder's voice but it goes with his body. Architect sounded simply phenomenal again, and I'm pretty sure the lack of talk from the Morpheus sim was due to limitations on what Fishburne gave originally.
I'm surprised you all thought the Intruder meant Neo...I was 99% sure he meant the real Morpheus. He mocked the fact that the sim was just memories, and then said he wanted the real man. Either way, it's still interesting. He obviously doesn't believe one or the other is dead. Has he seen Neo's RSI yet?
I remember that too, I also remember getting yelled at by Rage (from the KON) that I was there (well as a Merv I guess he saw me as partially responsible).Here's the thing about it.... Morpheus's RSI existed for quite some time, albeit corrupted, inside Mara Church, after the Assassin shot him. I remember it... the body would lie there, turn into a swarm of flies, then back again. I think I still have screenies of it. Creepy.
Or maybe that wasn't Morpheus's RSI, just a copy created for effect. I don't remember all the details.
Point is if that the Intruder was looking for Morpheus's RSI, the first place he would look is either where Morpheus was shot or in Mara. I don't believe we've seen him anywhere near those areas yet.
As far as Neo is concerned... Heart O' The City is where Neo really became The One and killed Agent Smith for the first time. (And several times before that in the cycle the Architect so fondly referred to in Reloaded.) Those of us who have been around for a long time remember collecting RSI Frags for a live event (I think it was way back in Chapter 1 or 2); the Intruder may be after those too.
Who knows. I don't.
Okay, because I'm annoyed by people predicting things that have at least been said (things can always change) in a mission to not be true:
the Intruder is a FREE-BORN HUMAN. He's not a program. Agent Gray was the one who said this. He could always be lying, but at this point this is what we know.
MotorZ wrote:Okay, because I'm annoyed by people predicting things that have at least been said (things can always change) in a mission to not be true:
the Intruder is a FREE-BORN HUMAN. He's not a program. Agent Gray was the one who said this. He could always be lying, but at this point this is what we know.
I've heard this idea before and I must admit it's one of the more interesting theories.
But how does a freeborn access the matrix? if they're not a pod-person they won't have headplugs or anything.
Okay, because I'm annoyed by people predicting things that have at least been said (things can always change) in a mission to not be true:Oh please, they lied about re-insertion. Why should I care what Gray says unless it's proven fact? (I haven't done a critical since Anome =P)
the Intruder is a FREE-BORN HUMAN. He's not a program. Agent Gray was the one who said this. He could always be lying, but at this point this is what we know.
What kind of hardware does a free born use to jack in? Who would design such a rig?
What king of software does a free born use to jack in? Who would write such code?
What experts have gone missing recently and who Awakened them; why and for what?
ok... so who do we think he's looking for? Neo or Morpheus? that and wheres morpheus' body? because since died jacked in wouldn't it be with zion and buried or whatever zionites do with bodies.... unless now the machines have it cause they took over the old zion... and well if he's looking for neo wasn't he offically marked as recycled but of course the machines could be lying . So i guessed i reasoned myself into why he asked the machines either way but it all depends on who he's looking for. My bet if he isn't the mystery man is morpheus otherwise why would he want to consult with some code that looks like morpheus he could have just been scanning for it and seen the sims then pissed off to find out it was a fake.(that considering what many believe that he's still alive and wasn't killed with a kill code designed for him, cause he's superman :p ) If neo well he would probably have visited the RSI fragment by now he could have asked the merv or anybody, so if we don't see him visit in the next few days he's probably after morpheus or some other myster person like Sarah.
This might seem silly but what if the intruder is actually on some kind of qest set by the machines to become the new architect, who will create a flawless new matrix which won't need the One and won't have the 1% of people leaving...
