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**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1

129 posts · 2007-11-15 04:03:09 to 2007-11-19 00:30:23

#36300353639 11/15/2007 08:13:56 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
"Do not resist, you are required?"

  1. You are required not to resist and to follow what is said.
  2. You are not to resist, you are needed for something?
Just two intereptations Ive thought of.
#36300353643 11/15/2007 08:18:27 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Havocide wrote:
"Do not resist, you are required?"

  1. You are required not to resist and to follow what is said.
  2. You are not to resist, you are needed for something?
Just two intereptations Ive thought of.

Mm, I thought of something along the lines of #2 when I first saw the cinematic. A Machine program that went rogue and is either being reprogrammed or Exiled?
#36300353645 11/15/2007 08:20:44 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
SolidRevolver wrote:
Procurator wrote:
The Machine mission implied the Intruder is tall. So I think either the Agents that were ported in to deal with him were extra tall by design, or that was the only mistake in the cinematic.

A guy in the Zion mission said he was 7 or 8 feet tall.
The guy in the Zion mission was also a little off his rocker, as evidenced by the operator's comment, "Why is it always the crazy hicks or the nutjobs that see this stuff?"
#36300353650 11/15/2007 08:28:08 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
I was thinking that the Agent was going to say more but the man cut him off mid sentence. Also, forget white dandruff for end of chapter award FX.. I want wireframe mode!
#36300353654 11/15/2007 08:32:02 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Uh oh.  Some Linux user found a way in to the Matrix.  Crap.
#36300353655 11/15/2007 08:33:20 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
What the Agent said was a little confusing. The subtitle implies that the Agent was cut off mid-sentence, and was going to say something like: 'You are required to submit for interrogation.' But the voice pronounced it as if it was a complete sentence: 'You are required.'

Poor voice acting, or is the Intruder actually required?
#36300353657 11/15/2007 08:40:14 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
It's most likely the same bald guy from the other cinematics.

The first thing I thought when he appeared was "Holy crap that's an aura from CoH! He's at least level 30."
#36300353659 11/15/2007 08:41:40 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
A few things and then the EPN guys can start yelling at me.

If it's Neo, I seriously doubt he would remember the guy he was or what's his purpose now. If you noticed in the cinematic when he arrives at the base of the monument (before the Agents arrive) he appears to be thinking, perhaps trying to recollect?

Two clues from the cinematic for me was the name of the location and the Agents responses. Ascension Monument, and the "Do not resist, you are required."  Perhaps it is Neo in a higher form created by the Machines (The Architect to be specific).

His attack on the Agents would tell me that if this "experiment" was made by the Architect, then it is obviously failed.

Another thing I thought of as I wrote this. Could it be a copy of Neo? Maybe in the same fashion as Smith?
#36300353688 11/15/2007 09:15:14 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
This.. may have just gotten me to resub...
#36300353695 11/15/2007 09:21:49 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Neo entered the system before without 'jacking in' perhaps he did it again...or even his memory has always been here, its just had no body (other than the Sarah Edmontons idea)

*shrugs* just some ideas.

#36300353698 11/15/2007 09:26:19 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Archangel wrote:

I seem to remember the Bag Lady talking about something big hyperjumping around in Moriah Projects more than a year ago...


That was the Morpheus Sim.

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Procurator wrote:
What the Agent said was a little confusing. The subtitle implies that the Agent was cut off mid-sentence, and was going to say something like: 'You are required to submit for interrogation.' But the voice pronounced it as if it was a complete sentence: 'You are required.'

Poor voice acting, or is the Intruder actually required?

The "..." implies mid sentence.

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Vinia wrote:
Also, forget white dandruff for end of chapter award FX.. I want wireframe mode!
QFT

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For those wondering as to the significance of the monument, read the background info for the neigbourhood, its where all the previous ones appeared after talking to the architect and choosing the 'reset' door.

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Oh and...


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#36300353699 11/15/2007 09:28:47 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
cloudwolf wrote:
Hahaha. Nice.

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#36300353701 11/15/2007 09:30:24 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
cloudwolf wrote:
The "..." implies mid sentence.

I know, but the voice acting treated the ellipsis as a full stop. That's what it sounds like to me, anyway.
#36300353704 11/15/2007 09:32:28 **SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
I go with weird voice acting personally.

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#36300353713 11/15/2007 09:52:03 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
cloudwolf wrote:
Archangel wrote:

I seem to remember the Bag Lady talking about something big hyperjumping around in Moriah Projects more than a year ago...


That was the Morpheus Sim.

That may be the case here, but I hardly think of Morpheus as "very large."
#36300353744 11/15/2007 10:38:17 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Archangel wrote:

I seem to remember the Bag Lady talking about something big hyperjumping around in Moriah Projects more than a year ago...


I think she was basically making the case for the "hack the ground smash" which is Morpheus's signature. That's what she was rambling about size for.

Anyway... I don't really know what to think of this. To be honest, I think it's kind of lame to have ZOMG SUPERMAN made of pure white polygons running around the city. It is too Anome for me. I'll be happy if the thing finds a body in Neo or Sarah or whoever. Right now my thoughts of who it might be are:

Mystery man from 8.3, but that doesn't make much sense since he has a corporeal body in the Real, which should translate to a decent looking human RSI in the Matrix.

Neo, or at least his consciousness, or otherwise an embodiment of the code of the One looking for a host, likely to be filled by the compilation of RSI Fragments or by somehow "possessing" Sarah Edmontons.

Sarah Edmontons either morphed into another form (what happens to the One when he/she is not awakened from the Matrix?) or the program of the One separating itself from her RSI and going rampaging.

Like I said, it'll be better when it finds a body. I'm not much of a fan of things looking "out of place" in the Matrix - it's meant to be a simulation of 1999 in all its perfect glory, and when we have folks with less-than-subtle superpowers and/or appearances it throws off the whole motif.

#36300353754 11/15/2007 10:50:30 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Upon scouting the location...I have concluded the perspective is screwed up. It looks like he disappears through a wall in the cinematic. And the Zion crit says he went into an alley. There isn't really an alley. Just a space between a wall that separates the building from the street.
#36300353758 11/15/2007 10:53:29 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
((Did anyone else think of "fighting wireframe team" from smash bros?))
Starschwar
#36300353762 11/15/2007 10:55:52 **SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
I knew Bigfoot existed. I KNEW it.
#36300353769 11/15/2007 11:02:05 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

#36300353774 11/15/2007 11:05:06 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
A program from another simulation from another Machine city that has been overrun? Their version of the Smith Virus?
#36300353780 11/15/2007 11:08:35 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1

?


xD
#36300353782 11/15/2007 11:09:35 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1

Could be...

But looking back on what I said, since Neo's memories are in possesion of all three Orgs, if this is Neo, then he is most likely "mindless" and probably very dangerous. But he only attacked when he felt threatened, so, this will be interesting.

((PS the music is a really nice touch, very moody, I like it SMILEY   ))

#36300353793 11/15/2007 11:19:37 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?
#36300353803 11/15/2007 11:29:14 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Havocide wrote:
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?


Quite possibly, the Red Pills have never had a use for them besides having parties or stuff like that. Maybe the Intruder/Neo/Whoever will have a better use for them.

((Which event was it where the Monuments started to decay?))

#36300353823 11/15/2007 11:57:09 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Ebola wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?


Quite possibly, the Red Pills have never had a use for them besides having parties or stuff like that. Maybe the Intruder/Neo/Whoever will have a better use for them.

((Which event was it where the Monuments started to decay?))

Death of the Destroyer. And I really wish someone had screenies of that. Those were the days. Everytime I ask about those screenies, nobody seems to have any.
#36300353837 11/15/2007 12:38:33 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Archangel wrote:
Ebola wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?


Quite possibly, the Red Pills have never had a use for them besides having parties or stuff like that. Maybe the Intruder/Neo/Whoever will have a better use for them.

((Which event was it where the Monuments started to decay?))

Death of the Destroyer. And I really wish someone had screenies of that. Those were the days. Everytime I ask about those screenies, nobody seems to have any.

   The moments started to decay towards the end of "The Hunt for Morpheus".

   And where does this "Neo made the monuments" thing come from?  Sister Margaret's first mission says that the Sculptress created the monument in Mara.  She probably created at least a few of the others.
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#36300353840 11/15/2007 12:48:29 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Othinn1 wrote:
Archangel wrote:
Ebola wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?


Quite possibly, the Red Pills have never had a use for them besides having parties or stuff like that. Maybe the Intruder/Neo/Whoever will have a better use for them.

((Which event was it where the Monuments started to decay?))

Death of the Destroyer. And I really wish someone had screenies of that. Those were the days. Everytime I ask about those screenies, nobody seems to have any.

   The moments started to decay towards the end of "The Hunt for Morpheus".

   And where does this "Neo made the monuments" thing come from?  Sister Margaret's first mission says that the Sculptress created the monument in Mara.  She probably created at least a few of the others.
The Culpres.... erm Sculptress you say? 0.o Does this "Sculptress" be in a link to "The BoxMaker" and "The KeyMaker"? Hell cant have a key or box without one to craft "sculpt" the objects =P just my imagination tho =S
#36300353847 11/15/2007 12:59:51 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
iv got a nasty feeling its a fragment of neo or something, and iv also got a nasty feeling its not on any body's side yet and that the merv has something to do with this
#36300353866 11/15/2007 13:38:42 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Hmm...I kinda think they were trying to extract the One program from Neo, and it escaped. This is the RSI-less One program, who without a human shell is much more dangerous to the Machines.

((doubt it but thought it was cool when I though of it SMILEY ))
#36300353881 11/15/2007 14:14:57 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Othinn1 wrote:
Archangel wrote:
Ebola wrote:
Havocide wrote:
Ebola wrote:

If you remembers from the first appearence of the LED Agents, we learned from Neo's own final thoughts, that the monuments were left behind for us, to guide us. Hmm, while I'm not sure that this is Neo, whatever it is is very powerful. Perhaps another previous One? Or maybe it IS an intruder, something not from the Matrix... guess we'll have to see.

What if they where there to guide Neo back?


Quite possibly, the Red Pills have never had a use for them besides having parties or stuff like that. Maybe the Intruder/Neo/Whoever will have a better use for them.

((Which event was it where the Monuments started to decay?))

Death of the Destroyer. And I really wish someone had screenies of that. Those were the days. Everytime I ask about those screenies, nobody seems to have any.

   The moments started to decay towards the end of "The Hunt for Morpheus".

   And where does this "Neo made the monuments" thing come from?  Sister Margaret's first mission says that the Sculptress created the monument in Mara.  She probably created at least a few of the others.
Umm, in the first event where we had to collect Neo's RSI fragments. Had his last thoughts while Smith was copying him, and after he was copied. If I remember correctly, they said he left the monuments behind for some purpose, but I dont think I have any screenshots of those unfortuantly.
#36300353887 11/15/2007 14:24:18 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
AFGM1 wrote:

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xD
QFT.
#36300353890 11/15/2007 14:26:54 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
The constant changing in size could be due to a lack of a shell.
#36300353964 11/15/2007 15:52:16 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
(( Hey, I just realized. The bluepill who yells "run" at 0:33 bears more than a passing resembelence to... well, you can figure it out. ))
Starschwar
#36300353983 11/15/2007 16:30:00 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Prepare yourselves.  I can see the pieces in motion.  The implications are endless.  For how long has Zion blamed the Machines for everything with Neo/Morpheus etc... I am prepared for everything to change.
#36300353992 11/15/2007 16:56:08 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Sexy...just sexy


All I gotta say is I'm so freakin' happy they finally gave Roger's Way a central spot in active storyline, given the region's history!!!   SMILEY
#36300354013 11/15/2007 17:23:42 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
OOC: Is it just me or is Chadwick getting beyond lazy with these cinematics. Is he even trying anymore? Firstly, he uses in-game environments instead of drawing his own cause he's lazy. I wouldn't mind if it looked good or if it's a mix between in-game and hand drawn it would be a cool touch, but now it just looks terrible. The scaling of the powerful wire-frame entity was also laughable as he "ran" up the street. Also, I agree that the crowd should have turned into Agents, I didn't know Agents could just appear out of thin air. It was a cool cinematic, no doubt, but Chadwick really needs to beef up the presentation, that was horrendous, to be blunt.

Anyway, to discuss the actual cinematic, I always figured we'd see Ascension Monument have significance. That door must lead somewhere.. bout time we see it in action. IMO, here's my theory on the wire-frame entity. It is slightly possible it is Neo, however I believe it must be that mysterious man surrounded by the A.I. in the Real. Remember, he somehow was watching the events between Neo and Deus Ex. How did he obtain these? It's improbably he was given records, so this leads me to believe he hacked into the machine database to achieve these recordings. This further leads me to believe that he could obtain any and all information that is held into the machine database. Thus, he somehow found a way to hack into the Matrix, either jacking in himself, or controlling this wire-frame entity in his HQ that would transcend the machines dominant power over the system, as he displayed with his quick dealing with the Agents. It is also possible that the Ascension Monument could lead to a construct in which this mystery mans presides and unleashes this wire-frame entity. Either way, we now know he presents a serious threat to the machines and the entire simulation, and for this he must be stopped.
#36300354015 11/15/2007 17:27:57 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
I don't think this is Chadders' fault. He only does the storyboards, not the animation. And the scaling isn't a problem apart from when he's next to the Agents: the Intruder is big.
#36300354018 11/15/2007 17:30:00 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
((Well, yeah, I have to agree with you about Chadwick, there, Remag. We haven't had a new Sentinel in ages, neither the Kid's nor the General's blogs have been updated, and he's schlubbing it on the cinematics. What the hell are we paying him for if this is all he does? And yes, I do mean we.))
#36300354026 11/15/2007 18:00:50 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Uh...we have a different guy than Chadwick that does the cinematic art. I'm pretty sure he just comes up with the concept art, unless I'm mistaken.
I disliked the scale of the guy at the end, cuz he looked 20 feet tall instead of 7-8, but other than that I thought it looked good. I think the devs are trying to make up for no longer having in-game cinematics.
#36300354066 11/15/2007 19:24:02 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
MotorZ wrote:
Uh...we have a different guy than Chadwick that does the cinematic art. I'm pretty sure he just comes up with the concept art, unless I'm mistaken.
I disliked the scale of the guy at the end, cuz he looked 20 feet tall instead of 7-8, but other than that I thought it looked good. I think the devs are trying to make up for no longer having in-game cinematics.

Animation is not done by Chadwick, but the drawings are, which is my main complaint, cause he doesn't even draw the backgrounds now, just uses in-game shots that are zoomed and look ugly, hence him just being lazy. The in-game look is cool when mixed like we saw in previous cinematics but when the entire cinematic has it it just looks cheesy.
#36300354070 11/15/2007 19:35:56 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Procurator wrote:
This is way more significant than another mega bad guy. If my guess is right, this is the mysterious glowing guy that's been standing in the background of event and chapter banners from day one. He's probably also the reason we've seen Agents lying around dead since Chapter 8.1 (or was it 8.2?), and could very well have ties to Mystery Man - or even be him!
Can someone post these banners?  I haven't seen them. 
#36300354075 11/15/2007 19:46:48 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
GypsyJuggler wrote:
Procurator wrote:
This is way more significant than another mega bad guy. If my guess is right, this is the mysterious glowing guy that's been standing in the background of event and chapter banners from day one. He's probably also the reason we've seen Agents lying around dead since Chapter 8.1 (or was it 8.2?), and could very well have ties to Mystery Man - or even be him!
Can someone post these banners?  I haven't seen them. 

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300017848
#36300354085 11/15/2007 20:12:58 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
"Uh... Let's see... Starting with the 7.2 cinematic, you should see a distinctly different thematic style--not artistic style, that will change in 7.1 when our new artist takes over converting Paul's storyboards into the finished art, but just uh what they're about, how they flow, etc."
#36300354090 11/15/2007 20:18:35 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Holy smokes, so Chadwick just does the storyboards now.. so now he does no Sentinel, no updated blogs, and now he doesn't even actually do the cinematics, just the preliminary storyboards?

You think he'd have more time to work on this stuff...
#36300354091 11/15/2007 20:21:46 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
RemagDiv wrote:
Holy smokes, so Chadwick just does the storyboards now.. so now he does no Sentinel, no updated blogs, and now he doesn't even actually do the cinematics, just the preliminary storyboards?

You think he'd have more time to work on this stuff...

He works on other projects that aren't The Matrix, by the way.
#36300354094 11/15/2007 20:23:56 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Blasphemy!

Hell, he hasn't updated his main blog in ages, either.
#36300354144 11/15/2007 23:17:09 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1

/leftfield...maybe

Maybe he's an Alien from outer space! Or an Alien AI! Maybe the reason the Sentinels are all around 01 all the sudden is because they are fighting off an Alien invasion force! Rarebit said the story would go in a different direction, Aliens would be different!

#36300354165 11/15/2007 23:53:51 Re:**SPOILERS** Cinematic 9.1
Ebola wrote:

/leftfield...maybe

Maybe he's an Alien from outer space! Or an Alien AI! Maybe the reason the Sentinels are all around 01 all the sudden is because they are fighting off an Alien invasion force! Rarebit said the story would go in a different direction, Aliens would be different!


If this ever happened I'd quit. Immediately.

...But I bet if it did, that the new One would be an alien who Jacks In with the power of love. Ooh Yeah!