Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

#36300317399 09/05/2007 13:30:02 Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Today's special forum-only Image Retrieval is brought to you in part by Walrus!

The following image depicts a work-in-progress that we hope to bring to you shortly, but which as always may be lost to mankind due to unexpected hiccups in development, etc etc.

Shadow Phoenix

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#36300317407 09/05/2007 13:35:07 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I'm excited, but I don't understand.
What exactly is Shadow Phoenix? A Pill that grants a move?
It kinda looks like a wall jump move...

Could you explain it a bit more Rarebit...

#36300317408 09/05/2007 13:35:09 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

This is combat??????

#36300317409 09/05/2007 13:35:22 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Animated .gif plzkthnx.

Edit: Oh I get it now... you run up wall> jump over person> person turns around> you kick them.

Awesome. SMILEY

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#36300317410 09/05/2007 13:35:42 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Why does that look like a new martial arts move?

I don't get this one.

#36300317411 09/05/2007 13:35:57 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

OMG, PLEASE DO THIS KTHX!!!

#36300317413 09/05/2007 13:37:18 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I don't get it either.

In the upper left edge is some kinda pill.... but the picture shows a move...

A consumable ability? Like... uhh... Wooden Stake?

#36300317414 09/05/2007 13:38:01 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

odj wrote:

Animated .gif plzkthnx.

Edit: Oh I get it now... you run up wall> jump over person> person turns around> you kick them.

Awesome. " />

It looks sooo true.

#36300317415 09/05/2007 13:38:28 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Looking fwd to this!

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#36300317420 09/05/2007 13:40:54 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Vitruv wrote:

I don't get it either.
In the upper left edge is some kinda pill.... but the picture shows a move...
A consumable ability? Like... uhh... Wooden Stake?

Hm a new move could be interesting...
But is that what we really need? A new move is nice and all, but, whats the point. The game does'nt need more moves, we need more clothing.

#36300317422 09/05/2007 13:42:29 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

AltDimension wrote:

Vitruv wrote:
I don't get it either.
In the upper left edge is some kinda pill.... but the picture shows a move...
A consumable ability? Like... uhh... Wooden Stake?
Hm a new move could be interesting...
But is that what we really need? A new move is nice and all, but, whats the point. The game does'nt need more moves, we need more clothing.

More clothing rather than abilities? You're joking...

The last updates have given us Area K, White Bandana, Headless Shades, etc, etc, etc.

We've been waiting since launch date for new moves.

((All messages in green are Shiboo's.))
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#36300317423 09/05/2007 13:43:24 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

AltDimension wrote:

Vitruv wrote:
I don't get it either.
In the upper left edge is some kinda pill.... but the picture shows a move...
A consumable ability? Like... uhh... Wooden Stake?
Hm a new move could be interesting...
But is that what we really need? A new move is nice and all, but, whats the point. The game does'nt need more moves, we need more clothing.

Uh the one thing this game doesn't have that the matrix movies pretty much emphasised was wall running, and from the looks of this image we are starting to get it back. I'm for one well pleased.

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#36300317424 09/05/2007 13:43:56 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Cmdr_Dezreki wrote:

AltDimension wrote:
Vitruv wrote:
I don't get it either.
In the upper left edge is some kinda pill.... but the picture shows a move...
A consumable ability? Like... uhh... Wooden Stake?
Hm a new move could be interesting...
But is that what we really need? A new move is nice and all, but, whats the point. The game does'nt need more moves, we need more clothing.
More clothing rather than abilities? You're joking...

The last updates have given us Area K, White Bandana, Headless Shades, etc, etc, etc.

We've been waiting since launch date for new moves.

They where saying in Vegas that, every item made for ingame, takes up a quota of storage. Once thats hit, no one can be made. ID Rather have more abilites, wallkicks WHATEVER, than more items!

#36300317425 09/05/2007 13:44:08 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I... actually wouldn't mind leaving the clothing down for a while.

What I would really appreciate were some new gun-textures - maybe some kinda.... Ak-47 for the Reit-Tek... or a MK3A1 for tha Stinger... or another Remmington-texture for the Dhanna... yea... and some new SMGs... maybe MP5s.

#36300317435 09/05/2007 13:52:39 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Yay for the fancy wall moves!!!! SMILEY

I really hope we see it someday! You can't have Matrix without all the neat fighting stuff SMILEY

#36300317437 09/05/2007 13:54:50 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Rarebit, please explain this fancy work of art. We are confused.

Don't make us come at you with our pitch forks. =PP

#36300317438 09/05/2007 13:56:26 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Clothing system really needs to be worked on so that it doesn't drain so much of the database.

#36300317440 09/05/2007 13:56:56 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Oooh! Now *THAT* would really put the Matrix into MxO! One thing I've missed from the movies the most was the wall-run. I might just ditch my guns and go MA for that.

#36300317447 09/05/2007 14:03:51 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Consumable Grant wall kick?

But then comes the question, of what would other trees get?

MKT/Hacker/Gunmen... <.<

#36300317450 09/05/2007 14:06:06 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I think this looks *CENSORED* awesome.

#36300317451 09/05/2007 14:07:06 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

looks cool.

#36300317452 09/05/2007 14:09:37 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

PS10N wrote:

Oh yeah I forgot...

there were Ability Grants that were consumables which could be used to temporarily use an Ability which you didn't have loaded. I can see why they took them out.

Someone spoke too soon.

#36300317453 09/05/2007 14:10:31 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

NightTrace wrote:

Consumable Grant wall kick?

But then comes the question, of what would other trees get?

MKT/Hacker/Gunmen... <.<

That reminds me, There should really be a consumable hacker ability. (I would make it single target, not like emcp) Since we have all the others covered.

#36300317457 09/05/2007 14:16:23 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I seem to remember Rarebit saying he wanted his next quest reward to be for Aikido, or just Martial Arts in general. I assumed it was clothing... but it would appear to be a new move, or dare I say... Zen Master?

#36300317464 09/05/2007 14:31:28 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

no fair! how come the MAs get all the love?! what about the coders!!!

#36300317465 09/05/2007 14:32:50 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Maybe MA sims will be able to do it too?

#36300317467 09/05/2007 14:35:00 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

It's a Neo wall-climb-jump-kick move (except he got pwnt by Morpheus during the dojo training) =O````

#36300317481 09/05/2007 14:57:54 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Wallkick ftw!!!

#36300317483 09/05/2007 14:59:27 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

If this is an ability pill, would it not work regardless of what loadout you are using?
Also, what happens if you are outside and are nowhere near a wall?

#36300317487 09/05/2007 15:03:10 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Croesus wrote:

If this is an ability pill, would it not work regardless of what loadout you are using?
Also, what happens if you are outside and are nowhere near a wall?

/mimewall

Imagine theres one there.

=P

#36300317490 09/05/2007 15:07:13 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Havocide wrote:

Croesus wrote:
If this is an ability pill, would it not work regardless of what loadout you are using?
Also, what happens if you are outside and are nowhere near a wall?
/mimewall

Imagine theres one there.

=P

Heh, I would rather not. That's why everytime I /leanwallloop I make sure I'm near a wall....
for believability sake! =P

#36300317495 09/05/2007 15:09:29 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Croesus wrote:

Havocide wrote:
Croesus wrote:
If this is an ability pill, would it not work regardless of what loadout you are using?
Also, what happens if you are outside and are nowhere near a wall?
/mimewall

Imagine theres one there.

=P

Heh, I would rather not. That's why everytime I /leanwallloop I make sure I'm near a wall....
for believability sake! =P

It isn't real anyway SMILEY

what's a wall?

#36300317496 09/05/2007 15:09:30 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

odj wrote:

Animated .gif plzkthnx.

Edit: Oh I get it now... you run up wall> jump over person> person turns around> you kick them.

Awesome. " width="15" height="15" />

I think that's close, I don't think jumping over is involved. It appears to go you turn around, run up wall (or air maybe?), launch off wall for jump kick straight into opponents chest. Either way, close enough, agreed looks awesome.

I have to go with the consumable pill\weapon item like a silver bullet\stake\holy water with the animation attached guess.

and.. OMG the Assassin lives! The EPN looking guy needs to bust out his flit gun, not do wall kicks!

#36300317500 09/05/2007 15:11:04 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Nah, the third pair image is taken from beneath the assassin character, the neo type dude is clearly overhead. It looks exactly like the Neo/Morpheus training Dojo, flippy move...

#36300317506 09/05/2007 15:16:08 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Actually spent more time looking at it closer, I can see the jump over thing. It's tough with the blank background for me to orient them. I can't tell if the last frame the guy is standing or in the air. Originally I thought in the air, now I'm leaning more toward standing.

#36300317507 09/05/2007 15:17:06 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

oohh good idea.. make a pill so anyone can create a sim that will run into crowd and explode!! i guess it would be more like a device or tool.... ^_^

#36300317516 09/05/2007 15:23:41 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Huslah wrote:

Actually spent more time looking at it closer, I can see the jump over thing. It's tough with the blank background for me to orient them. I can't tell if the last frame the guy is standing or in the air. Originally I thought in the air, now I'm leaning more toward standing.

I would assume its a fluid movement and as soon as you land, you place a well positioned kick. What I would like to know is how powerful the kick? Not DPS wise but if it's hard then wouldn't the opponent hit the wall behind them?

#36300317517 09/05/2007 15:23:51 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Decent. Not what I was expecting, but decent SMILEY

#36300317532 09/05/2007 16:00:40 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

The "gif" image of this move is shown here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKf693qz_sY

at apr. 3:35 min.

#36300317538 09/05/2007 16:06:54 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

KevinX wrote:

The "gif" image of this move is shown here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKf693qz_sY

at apr. 3:35 min.

HOLY WOW THAT WAS SWEET!

#36300317539 09/05/2007 16:07:47 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

~~No, that's not it that's a diving hurricanrana or whatever its called, this move seems to utilise a wall~~

Ah I was looking at the wrong time its approx 3:40 min, it does look sweet!

#36300317546 09/05/2007 16:22:48 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Oh hell yes man. Try as hard as you can to get this in. Great to see a development tidbit.

#36300317547 09/05/2007 16:28:07 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

I guess the wall discovery has brought this back. Seems alot of things are being re-used, such as quicksilvers (the effect) and so forth.

TH

#36300317550 09/05/2007 16:36:16 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Croesus wrote:

~~No, that's not it that's a diving hurricanrana or whatever its called, this move seems to utilise a wall~~

Ah I was looking at the wrong time its approx 3:40 min, it does look sweet!

Oh sorry for that. I based the time looking from the begining using another video source. (( The Battle of the bands one that has all of them ))

So I took out 5 seconds. >>

#36300317585 09/05/2007 17:50:02 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

The original animation only worked near a wall, I don't see why this can't. A pill that grants the ability until log out would most likely be the best case scenario, since a pill that made the ability go can easily be exploited, though a permanant grant would also be nice, or it could just be a vet reward.

The last one sounds most appealing.

#36300317588 09/05/2007 18:07:55 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

i know i would def like to have a perpetual non exhaustable shadow fenix/citadel coder pill as an event reward. ^_^

#36300317589 09/05/2007 18:09:58 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

KevinX wrote:

The "gif" image of this move is shown here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKf693qz_sY

at apr. 3:35 min.

The original video can be found here.

Looks like more old content being re-introduced as "new", rather than a push for more funding and dev time to spend creating something truly innovative for the game.

A pill which grants a wall kick maneuver. A wall kick maneuver that already existed under CR1, but was removed at the cost of some heavy duty dev time in the transition to CR2, and is now being brought back into the game at the cost of more dev time.

This particular wall kick was a move that was performed using the Kung Fu combat style after successfully disarming a gunman in interlock. (Remember being able to disarm gunmen?) If memory serves, there were other wall kick animations while using the Aikido and Karate combat styles. More than likely, we'll see more pills in the future that reproduce those maneuvers as well.

Am I noticing a continuing trend in "Activate" items? Archive Missions, Archive Reward Effects, Stat Hack Tickets, RSI Pills, etc. The are all items that are activated by the player to produce a desired effect. This time around, the desired effect happens to be a wall kick. Is it because these kinds of things are easiest to implement? A quick and surefire way to please the players without having to do much work?

#36300317593 09/05/2007 18:23:24 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Beggin' your pardon sir but you seem a little ungrateful.

#36300317595 09/05/2007 18:32:27 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

MXOMastatec wrote:

i know i would def like to have a perpetual non exhaustable shadow fenix/citadel coder pill as an event reward. ^_^

Event reward would suck, because most people A.) Work when the events are on or B.) Live in a timezone that cannot possibly work for events.

Especially since you cannot ask Rarebit or Brewko to trade event rewards to another player/character.

#36300317614 09/05/2007 20:00:41 Re:Image Retrieval - September 5, 2007

Roukan wrote:
The original animation only worked near a wall, I don't see why this can't. A pill that grants the ability until log out would most likely be the best case scenario, since a pill that made the ability go can easily be exploited, though a permanant grant would also be nice, or it could just be a vet reward.

The last one sounds most appealing.

I would say no to it being a Vet reward, I mean come on why do many of the Vet's want to corner aspects of the game? Do Dev's only work and produce stuff for Vets, no.
I would say that it'd be a rare, one time use only pill that when taken in battle near a wall produced the move that's all....