At least he isn't drooling and stammering anymore. I suppose I don't have it any worse than Shimada now. Maybe in a few more months I'll be able to hire a babysitter and go out again on Friday nights, dears.
xoxo Veil <3
[7.2.1] Story-time with the mind-job - Syntax - 4/20/07
62 posts · 2007-04-23 20:11:12 to 2007-04-27 20:03:52
Hehe go Veil!
I see you all there staring at a good man, an injured man. This third Cryptos is a docile shell of a man. You should find a way to help if you can.
It is gratifying that the mind of Cryptos has made such progress in repairing itself. However, he was far from making a full "recovery": I wish him well in resolving his internal conflict.
Dare I hope that the human aspect of his sentience may return? I pray that we might see the return of the "Brother In Arms" of the great Morpheus.
Veil: I don't like being lied to
Oh the irony.
So he's alive...
I feel sorry for him, kind of.
I feel sorry for him, kind of.
Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.
So... Cryptos still remembers everything, eh?
My, my, I do believe I see possibility.
MetaLogic wrote:
Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.(( Okay, now you're just confusing me. Are you a Cypherite, a Machine, or both? ))
I love how symbolic the location is.
it leaves me wondering what veil is going to do next.
So, another version of Cryptos? This is getting wierder and wierder. Yay Cypherites?
((his eyes looked awesome!))
Skill wrote:
((Cyph))
Has anyone else notice that the bluepill necklace is gone, and that his uniform is now darker?
MetaLogic wrote:Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.(( Okay, now you're just confusing me. Are you a Cypherite, a Machine, or both? ))
((Cyph))
Has anyone else notice that the bluepill necklace is gone, and that his uniform is now darker?
MetaLogic wrote:
Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.
That's not a wise decision. And from talking with other Cypherites, they are weary about following Veil as well.
I suggest that this would be a perfect time for all Cypherites to lay down their arms and leave this terrorist organization.
Seraph swiped it from his neck just before he was overwritten.
Mercio wrote:
HA, and follow who, Morpheus? The guy who had no qualms with setting off code bombs within the Matrix, killing bluepills? The guy who would've probably brought down the whole system itself just to get Neo's body back? No thanks, I'd rather follow someone who protects the innocence rather than someone who thinks they are expendable.
MetaLogic wrote:Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.
That's not a wise decision. And from talking with other Cypherites, they are weary about following Veil as well.I suggest that this would be a perfect time for all Cypherites to lay down their arms and leave this terrorist organization.
HA, and follow who, Morpheus? The guy who had no qualms with setting off code bombs within the Matrix, killing bluepills? The guy who would've probably brought down the whole system itself just to get Neo's body back? No thanks, I'd rather follow someone who protects the innocence rather than someone who thinks they are expendable.
MetaLogic wrote:
In the long run, Meta, Morpheus just did what you do, Cyph scum. In the long run, Morpheus's action would have restarted the cycle, as is your wish. In the long run, EPNs actions will return the cycle if they resume doing what they do.
But not in the long run but NOW you Cypherite are no longer any use. You are no longer of any importance. I hope you get reinserted soon Meta. It'll be unpleasant to be drowned in your new home, I'll assure you.
Mercio wrote:MetaLogic wrote:Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.
That's not a wise decision. And from talking with other Cypherites, they are weary about following Veil as well.I suggest that this would be a perfect time for all Cypherites to lay down their arms and leave this terrorist organization.
HA, and follow who, Morpheus? The guy who had no qualms with setting off code bombs within the Matrix, killing bluepills? The guy who would've probably brought down the whole system itself just to get Neo's body back? No thanks, I'd rather follow someone who protects the innocence rather than someone who thinks they are expendable.
In the long run, Meta, Morpheus just did what you do, Cyph scum. In the long run, Morpheus's action would have restarted the cycle, as is your wish. In the long run, EPNs actions will return the cycle if they resume doing what they do.
But not in the long run but NOW you Cypherite are no longer any use. You are no longer of any importance. I hope you get reinserted soon Meta. It'll be unpleasant to be drowned in your new home, I'll assure you.
The loss of Cryptos is... is... eh... it's hard to bear... That man was a mentor... he was a real Cypherite.
But we move on. Under Veil--so be it. We're not finished, not by far... Look to the skies, the future's emblazened in the moving of the clouds....
- Tranta
Oh such a shame. I hate when good men go to waste.
(( I'd personally hoped/expected Cryptos to return to his old self, would've been an interesting dynamic to the story. But i spose this has the potential to be much more interesting, especially considering his memory of it all... I just hope its handled well ))
Of course there is a slight possibility that he IS his full self again - if I wanted to destroy the Matrix and found myself surrounded by people who want to preserve it at all costs I'd probably fake insanity too!! I suppose given this event it's not that likely but it is an interesting possibility. Cryptos has always been a very interesting character, so it'll be interesting to see where this goes.
The poor guy has no clue what's going on anymore. He thought he was enjoying the nice spring time environment of Sakura, but the guy can't make heads or tails of his visual input anymore. Perhaps it's time for the old boy to return to the system and Veil to lead us on to bigger and badder things, no?
GamiSB wrote:
Cryptos: ...I then of course had no intention of being reinserted, as such a term had no meaning to me.
The sweet, sweet irony... Maybe Veil and the rest of you can realize the truth one day. Good luck, kids.
- Ezechiel
(Yeah his eyes did look awesome, Pill.)
Veil: I don't like being lied to
Oh the irony.
Cryptos: ...I then of course had no intention of being reinserted, as such a term had no meaning to me.
The sweet, sweet irony... Maybe Veil and the rest of you can realize the truth one day. Good luck, kids.
- Ezechiel
(Yeah his eyes did look awesome, Pill.)
MetaLogic wrote:
Skill wrote:It's been that way since Seraph kicked his face in I thinkMetaLogic wrote:Hmm, what will this Cryptos be like, only time will tell. As for now, Veil is our leader and we will follow her.(( Okay, now you're just confusing me. Are you a Cypherite, a Machine, or both? ))
((Cyph))
Has anyone else notice that the bluepill necklace is gone, and that his uniform is now darker?
'Cypherite that doesn't want to be re-inserted'=Merovingian, you want the matrix as your home and/or as a world you can mould, then its pure lunacy to pursue a course which actively works to deny that eventuality!
Tytanya_MxO wrote:
'Cypherite that doesn't want to be re-inserted'=Merovingian, you want the matrix as your home and/or as a world you can mould, then its pure lunacy to pursue a course which actively works to deny that eventuality!
No thanks. If the Mervs get yet another LE character I'll gouge my own eyeballs out...
...with a rubber spoon even.
Yes I was intrigued by the fact that many of the Cypherites present at that meeting answered that they didn't want to be re-inserted when asked by Cryptos.
You'd think now that the spotlight is on the Cypherite poster boy Cryptos as being a tool of the Machines, their organization would take a step back and rethink their alignment. Rather, they blindly press on, now not even driven by the goal to reinsert, but by revenge. It's gone from bad to worse with the Blue bandwagon.
Fryzool wrote:
Yes I was intrigued by the fact that many of the Cypherites present at that meeting answered that they didn't want to be re-inserted when asked by Cryptos.As am I. Good catch. Much confusion before revelation.
Obviosly there has been a new task for us Cypherites. I mean, lets put it this way. If we all were reinserted, what guarantee do we have of the matrix not being destroyed? As of right now, I sure dont want to be reinserted, because Im sure that some sick headed Red-pill, that has a complete passion of hate for me, would scoop me up and pretty much torture the heck out of me and my Blue-pill self.
I dont know, maybe those that said that they didnt want to be reinserted are those that have been influenced to fight against those that seek the destruction of the matrix. Maybe it is looking out for #1, but I think it is the truth. Therefore, I think this observation has become an important thought for many Cypherites.
Making sure that the Matrix wont be destroyed so when reinserted there minds wont be fried.
((I dont understand what is going on with this though. I mean at first Veil hates the machines. Or doesnt she? Then she says she doesnt want to be reinserted and could give a S___ about what Cryptos does. Seriously, Im very confused.))
((I got to admit I'm very confused as well, I thought the two things that you need to believe in to be a Cyph is that you hate EPNs and you'd want to be reinserted at some point. If our leaders doesn't want to be reinserted, then what makes us different from the machines?))
Here Tranta spoke in better words. ((This is how I am as a Cypherite.))
Hmm... Let me see here, what've we got... Ah....
They say that our official 'mantra' is the elimination of all other redpills first, and then re-insertion. The general beleif is that if we get re-inserted, the Teen Team will find some way to wake us up again. Logically, if we were awakened once, we chose to be--even if we did without knowing it--and as such we'd do the same thing again if put in the same situation.
It's pretty sound logic, I suppose, but eh... It doesn't work from a non-violent standpoint; my standpoint. So we stay and protect the system first, trying to stop others from being awakened, or at least offerring them an unbiased truth. I guess you could call us martyrs to the cause, but there's no question that you'd all have a field day with me calling myself that....
- Tranta
shinpseudo wrote:
You'd think now that the spotlight is on the Cypherite poster boy Cryptos as being a tool of the Machines, their organization would take a step back and rethink their alignment. Rather, they blindly press on, now not even driven by the goal to reinsert, but by revenge. It's gone from bad to worse with the Blue bandwagon.
There is nothing to rethink. We are who we are regardless of whose at the reigns. Some of us seek reinsertion; others seek vengenance. In the end we'll lay down for the big nap but not until the noisy neighbors are done partying.
NiChO wrote:
A respectible cypherite, one I think wouldn't back down, even after I eliminate him.Here Tranta spoke in better words. ((This is how I am as a Cypherite.))
Hmm... Let me see here, what've we got... Ah....
They say that our official 'mantra' is the elimination of all other redpills first, and then re-insertion. The general beleif is that if we get re-inserted, the Teen Team will find some way to wake us up again. Logically, if we were awakened once, we chose to be--even if we did without knowing it--and as such we'd do the same thing again if put in the same situation.
It's pretty sound logic, I suppose, but eh... It doesn't work from a non-violent standpoint; my standpoint. So we stay and protect the system first, trying to stop others from being awakened, or at least offerring them an unbiased truth. I guess you could call us martyrs to the cause, but there's no question that you'd all have a field day with me calling myself that....
- Tranta
Roukan wrote:
Or I, depending on who gets to him first.
A respectible cypherite, one I think wouldn't back down, even after I eliminate him.
Or I, depending on who gets to him first.
I left at the right time, I see.
Hahaha!
Fools that form the Cypherite organisation. I've been telling you for a whole year that Cryptos is a clown and that Veil isn't very capable of leading either.
I'm glad I left.
Good luck. You'll need it.
Hahaha!
Fools that form the Cypherite organisation. I've been telling you for a whole year that Cryptos is a clown and that Veil isn't very capable of leading either.
I'm glad I left.
Good luck. You'll need it.
Roukan wrote:
NiChO wrote:Hmm... Oh, you're welcome, I think....A respectible cypherite, one I think wouldn't back down, even after I eliminate him.Here Tranta spoke in better words. ((This is how I am as a Cypherite.))
Hmm... Let me see here, what've we got... Ah....
They say that our official 'mantra' is the elimination of all other redpills first, and then re-insertion. The general beleif is that if we get re-inserted, the Teen Team will find some way to wake us up again. Logically, if we were awakened once, we chose to be--even if we did without knowing it--and as such we'd do the same thing again if put in the same situation.
It's pretty sound logic, I suppose, but eh... It doesn't work from a non-violent standpoint; my standpoint. So we stay and protect the system first, trying to stop others from being awakened, or at least offerring them an unbiased truth. I guess you could call us martyrs to the cause, but there's no question that you'd all have a field day with me calling myself that....
- Tranta
Roukan wrote:
After all, for argument's sake, what if they managed to convert/kill all redpills? What then?
They'd be awakened again. By themselves, if not by someone else.
NiChO wrote:Ehh, that idea is flawed in my opinion.A respectible cypherite, one I think wouldn't back down, even after I eliminate him.Here Tranta spoke in better words. ((This is how I am as a Cypherite.))
Hmm... Let me see here, what've we got... Ah....
They say that our official 'mantra' is the elimination of all other redpills first, and then re-insertion. The general beleif is that if we get re-inserted, the Teen Team will find some way to wake us up again. Logically, if we were awakened once, we chose to be--even if we did without knowing it--and as such we'd do the same thing again if put in the same situation.
It's pretty sound logic, I suppose, but eh... It doesn't work from a non-violent standpoint; my standpoint. So we stay and protect the system first, trying to stop others from being awakened, or at least offerring them an unbiased truth. I guess you could call us martyrs to the cause, but there's no question that you'd all have a field day with me calling myself that....
- Tranta
After all, for argument's sake, what if they managed to convert/kill all redpills? What then?
They'd be awakened again. By themselves, if not by someone else.
Very interesting!
I don't understand why there is a Cryptos 3. As far as I know everyone else who was overwritten and then 'attacked' by Seraph went back to their original personalities, but apparently Cryptos did not. Why didn't he, and where did this third personality come from?
Gruk wrote:
I don't understand why there is a Cryptos 3. As far as I know everyone else who was overwritten and then 'attacked' by Seraph went back to their original personalities, but apparently Cryptos did not. Why didn't he, and where did this third personality come from?
Possibly because the degree in which Cryptos was overwritten was difrent then everyone else. Think about it. Cryptos had a direct link to Gray, he was basicly an agent in discuise. Seraph was able to undo the major points in which this program had control but not all of it because of the level of the program that was put in him.
Just a guess anyway.
Reeverb wrote:
I left at the right time, I see.
Hahaha!
Fools that form the Cypherite organisation. I've been telling you for a whole year that Cryptos is a clown and that Veil isn't very capable of leading either.
I'm glad I left.
Good luck. You'll need it.
Verb, you see Cryptos as a clown. Whereas we see you as someone of little faith in our organization. Even while being with us. You have there opinion and we have ours.
There is a meaning behind Veil's leadership position, and it is so funny how quick you all judge her leadership capabilties. Yea, she didnt preach from inside of a box, or have a inspirational speech infront of a small group in a church. Many leaders have different tacticts... think Malcom X and Martin Luther King Jr.
However, we can think about this question, if she isnt a natural born leader, could she learn to be one?
((Argh, why was I gone that night? Anyway, I kinda wonder why Veil is taking so much trouble with him. I think he's just faking insane to stay safe.))
Cryptos...I'm not quite sure what's going on with you. I don't know that I want a program as our leader, but Veil still needs to prove herself more.
Cryptos...I'm not quite sure what's going on with you. I don't know that I want a program as our leader, but Veil still needs to prove herself more.
Tranta wrote:
Roukan wrote:Sorry if I misphrased that.. I meant 'A cypherite worth killing.. finally.'NiChO wrote:Hmm... Oh, you're welcome, I think....A respectible cypherite, one I think wouldn't back down, even after I eliminate him.Here Tranta spoke in better words. ((This is how I am as a Cypherite.))
Hmm... Let me see here, what've we got... Ah....
They say that our official 'mantra' is the elimination of all other redpills first, and then re-insertion. The general beleif is that if we get re-inserted, the Teen Team will find some way to wake us up again. Logically, if we were awakened once, we chose to be--even if we did without knowing it--and as such we'd do the same thing again if put in the same situation.
It's pretty sound logic, I suppose, but eh... It doesn't work from a non-violent standpoint; my standpoint. So we stay and protect the system first, trying to stop others from being awakened, or at least offerring them an unbiased truth. I guess you could call us martyrs to the cause, but there's no question that you'd all have a field day with me calling myself that....
- Tranta
Hmm? Oh! Well then, thanks are definitely in order.
- Tranta
Eh, I'm gonna miss the old man. He gave me a lot of opportunities and put some faith in me.... Wouldn't be here today if it weren't for him.
That being said, he ain't fit ta lead us right now, and I think Veil has got some better plans. Maybe we can do a bit more of our "active" work while Cryptos is coming to terms with who he is.
And since so many of ya think he's gonna turn his back on us, just make sure ya find a way ta get him off the ship before I put a bullet in his head. Cause I ain't about ta let him go back ta bein just another Morpheus. I'll sooner kill him than let that happen.
That being said, he ain't fit ta lead us right now, and I think Veil has got some better plans. Maybe we can do a bit more of our "active" work while Cryptos is coming to terms with who he is.
And since so many of ya think he's gonna turn his back on us, just make sure ya find a way ta get him off the ship before I put a bullet in his head. Cause I ain't about ta let him go back ta bein just another Morpheus. I'll sooner kill him than let that happen.
Itarrot wrote:
Eh, I'm gonna miss the old man. He gave me a lot of opportunities and put some faith in me.... Wouldn't be here today if it weren't for him.Eventually you're going to have to face it. Seraph is still out there.
That being said, he ain't fit ta lead us right now, and I think Veil has got some better plans. Maybe we can do a bit more of our "active" work while Cryptos is coming to terms with who he is.
And since so many of ya think he's gonna turn his back on us, just make sure ya find a way ta get him off the ship before I put a bullet in his head. Cause I ain't about ta let him go back ta bein just another Morpheus. I'll sooner kill him than let that happen.
GamiSB wrote:
Gruk wrote:You could be right, perhaps the extent to which he was overwritten was greater than Seraph's ability to remove it, and so some overwritten parts remain.I don't understand why there is a Cryptos 3. As far as I know everyone else who was overwritten and then 'attacked' by Seraph went back to their original personalities, but apparently Cryptos did not. Why didn't he, and where did this third personality come from?
Possibly because the degree in which Cryptos was overwritten was difrent then everyone else. Think about it. Cryptos had a direct link to Gray, he was basicly an agent in discuise. Seraph was able to undo the major points in which this program had control but not all of it because of the level of the program that was put in him.Just a guess anyway.
GamiSB wrote:
Veil: I don't like being lied to
Oh the irony.
Yeah... I kinda thought the whole point of the Cyperites was that they preferred being lied to.
Nice spot GamiSB 
Gruk wrote:
GamiSB wrote:I thought it was because he attacked Cryptos right in front of the Cypherites and they ran him off before he was done.Gruk wrote:You could be right, perhaps the extent to which he was overwritten was greater than Seraph's ability to remove it, and so some overwritten parts remain.I don't understand why there is a Cryptos 3. As far as I know everyone else who was overwritten and then 'attacked' by Seraph went back to their original personalities, but apparently Cryptos did not. Why didn't he, and where did this third personality come from?
Possibly because the degree in which Cryptos was overwritten was difrent then everyone else. Think about it. Cryptos had a direct link to Gray, he was basicly an agent in discuise. Seraph was able to undo the major points in which this program had control but not all of it because of the level of the program that was put in him.Just a guess anyway.