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[7.2.1] This was no coincidence - Syntax - 4/19/07
75 posts · 2007-04-20 18:18:15 to 2007-04-27 09:10:12
This was a good event. Plus, I was able to log all (or at least a majority) of the dialogue, and my connection didn't die once. Hopefully that means that my ISP is working on it. They checked out my connection and apparently its stability and speed isn't what it's supposed to be.
- An MxO live event transcript website:
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
How can we be sure this isn't a trick by the General? I was apprehensive the first time I saw one of these appearences.
Oh teh nos!
For Neo.
Oh teh nos!
For Neo.
Good work Kid, we've had some really good goings recently.
I'm glad i found that signal for us, it was tough to find....glad i could be of assistance..I was'nt sure of it at first..but i felt it, then tried a few more times, and thought..its got to be it, it just had to. So shouted out "It's here".
Seems i was correct..
I'm glad i found that signal for us, it was tough to find....glad i could be of assistance..I was'nt sure of it at first..but i felt it, then tried a few more times, and thought..its got to be it, it just had to. So shouted out "It's here".
Seems i was correct..
The_Kid wrote
=D
Was fun, the spam got was getting a bit outa hand but /ignore sorted that out =P
tr0n wrote:
How can we be sure this isn't a trick by the General? I was apprehensive the first time I saw one of these appearences.We can't be sure. But what we can be sure of is that the Oracle wanted us to see this--she wants us to believe it. And if, God forbid, it so happens that this is a ploy by the General, then we're meant to find this out the hard way. Betrayal and deceit can be phenominal at bolstering the desire for vengeance, and I can forsee that the General would not be of this world for long if it's revealed that he is behind these appearances.
Oh teh nos!
For Neo.
*gives GamiSB and ShiXinFeng a pound* We'll get to the bottom of this soon enough.
- Ezechiel
- Ezechiel
The General, his lies were once believable. But this attack on his person as left him desperate, and his messages, they appear more desperate.
Zion... you can't trust me. But don't tell me you can trust this... thing. This... lie...
...
Can you?
Zion... you can't trust me. But don't tell me you can trust this... thing. This... lie...
...
Can you?
here's my problem:
Oracle (or even The Oracle or The_Oracle) vs. Orrrrracle6255
yeahhhhhh.
I buy it, sure. 'Cuase I'm an idiot
Ok. Believe what you want.
Oracle (or even The Oracle or The_Oracle) vs. Orrrrracle6255
yeahhhhhh.
I buy it, sure. 'Cuase I'm an idiot
Ok. Believe what you want.
Qwirk wrote:
That's just so they can have the same live events character on all three servers. It looks like "Oracle" from everyone else's perspective.
here's my problem:
Oracle (or even The Oracle or The_Oracle) vs. Orrrrracle6255
yeahhhhhh.
I buy it, sure. 'Cuase I'm an idiot
Ok. Believe what you want.
That's just so they can have the same live events character on all three servers. It looks like "Oracle" from everyone else's perspective.
A good event, I guess PVP zones are mandatory after Morpheus now? Makes things interesting, I hope this comes to the front soon.
The Oracle said nothing was coincidence. I agree with that. I find it a bit too coincidental -- again -- that a hologram of an injured Morpheus appears at the same time the General is fighting the Machines, trying to goad the 'faithful' into launching an attack on the Machines.
Illyria
Yes, what Illyria said... I mean seriously guys, if yall cant see that this is a ploy by the General to get the Zionists to fight the Machines, then thats just sad and blind faith that this is the "real" Morpheus giving yall messages.
Did the Oracle get a boob job? ((And Ledgic whispering "hows it going" to Morpheus made me laugh
))I think I speak for many of us when I say that few of us are just going to blindly jump to the conclusion that it is Morpheus. The idea that it could be the General isn't that hard to see, but still that isn't proven either. We need to wait and see how this unfolds and act accordingly, and at the same time, lets not get too caught up in it, there are still greater demons to slay.
Now what troubles me the most is that last bit that the Oracle said. A few of us, I being one of them, stayed behind to continue talking to her while most went outside. This is when she mentioned that someone would lie to us. This statement, combined with the entire coincedence and fate talk of hers, troubles me. I think that she may know if this is not Morpheus, yet is still going to push us towards believing it is him, as the path we would take "must" be taken. Its not hard to believe that she would not tell us all she knows, as she often only tells you "what you need to hear".
Am I getting just a bit too paranoid?
-Steelle-
((ps. I was a little sad that she didn't tell me if I passed my exams or not...makes me think I didn't...lol))
I belive this is him i to think this is no coincidence i do belive that Neo is alive and hold prisoner why would the machines keep im and prtect him so much if he isnt i think Zion needs some one like morhpeus back right now and hopefully we will have him back soon
Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Ebola wrote:
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
Don't it seem like morpheus' old "signals" looked like the generals holographic projections? And ol' morph started showing up as we started cracking down on the general. Now he wants zion to fight against the machines, and for what? Neo had the chance the destroy the matrix, and didn't. So even if you broke the truce, and somehow got him out of the machine city (assuming hes alive and there) he'd come to find out that all the things he fought for are gone now. the truce he died for: You broke. Trinity is dead. Morhpeus is an outlaw. I don't think Neo would be much to happy about your choices come lately.
Pyraci wrote:
*gives GamiSB and ShiXinFeng a pound* We'll get to the bottom of this soon enough.
- Ezechiel
Indeed, my young friend.
But I am afraid the bottom is all we'll find. My well of faith that this is really Captain Morpheus has run dry. If it really is him, why won't he tell us where he is?
His every appearance leads to more questions.
If we knew where these Morpheus transmissions were coming from in the real, we might be able to assess if they were coming from Stalingrad or somewhere in the tunnels.
Illyria
Please tell me that The Kid isn't this gulliable, he is piratically believing that this is Morpheus without any proof, wow... The General may very well be behind this, I mean just look at the message and look at what's going on in Stalingrad.
GamiSB wrote:
Ebola wrote:But its those few loonie toons that can do the most damage.Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:
Aye it does. Seems a bit odd that he'll tell us to fight the Machines, but won't say a word about where he is. If this is indeed a spoof, it may very well be the General trying to stir up another fight. As a tactician, I wouldn't put it past him. He's done this sort of thing before, though perhaps not exactly the same way.
- Ezechiel
Pyraci wrote:*gives GamiSB and ShiXinFeng a pound* We'll get to the bottom of this soon enough.
- Ezechiel
Indeed, my young friend.
But I am afraid the bottom is all we'll find. My well of faith that this is really Captain Morpheus has run dry. If it really is him, why won't he tell us where he is?
His every appearance leads to more questions.
Aye it does. Seems a bit odd that he'll tell us to fight the Machines, but won't say a word about where he is. If this is indeed a spoof, it may very well be the General trying to stir up another fight. As a tactician, I wouldn't put it past him. He's done this sort of thing before, though perhaps not exactly the same way.
- Ezechiel
814 wrote:
((
You always like pictures with you in it SW, don't ya?))
The_Kid wrote=D
((
You always like pictures with you in it SW, don't ya?))
Careful, Zion. Let us first examine what we know:
Morpheus was killed, or atleast, irreversibly altered in this world and out.
The General wants us to remain in conflict, and has proved to be a master at manipulating our emotions and thoughts.
Uttering phrases such as, "They are still enemies to the human race" and "I need you to battle against the Machines" don't sound like something Morpheus would say - atleast, not the Morpheus we knew.
Cryptos' recent revealing - need I say more.
Someone will lie to you. Tread carefully, operatives.
Two of the best screens I've ever seen...
((lol, sorry i think this one is sort of funny. When everyone got stuck at the doors haha)) =D
(Amen, Bayamos. Those are classic.)
## Incoming Transmission...
## Fuscienne // HvCFT Neo's Hope
## RELAY Initialized - REF: 04-19
For any of us, whether we do or do not believe, it is clear we are being shown something that we are meant to see. And while many questions continue to plague our thoughts.. there is no denying the possibility. Will there be any one of us who won't endure to seek what we've always sought? Remain ever vigilant, Operatives.
~F
## End Transmission...
## Carrier Signal Lost....
This looked like a great event massive epn turn out. Really i could of been there! I agree that we must take this cautiously. The General has many tricks and to attack the machines now would only help him in his goals to control the matrix. I for one dont want to trade a bad situation for one thats even worse.
((Great event. Thos some tried to ruin it yet again.))
Thanks for making it clear Oracle.
Thanks for making it clear Oracle.
Ebola wrote:
GamiSB wrote:Then plese stop generalizeing all of Zion and EPN to be like them because they will be right there with you to help stop the damage.Ebola wrote:But its those few loonie toons that can do the most damage.Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
Ugh. Even if Morpheus does come back, we'll just kill him.
Except we'll do it properly.
Iovai wrote:
Err..Have fun.Ugh. Even if Morpheus does come back, we'll just kill him.
Except we'll do it properly.
GamiSB wrote:
Ebola wrote:Generalizations, and stereotypes, are just what I'd expect from our adversaries right now. It's easy to go for the cheap shot and lump us all into a "Morpheus loony" group. The General is the clear possible culprit here, we do in fact see that. Using Morpheus and Neo to tug at the proverbial heart strings of Zion and EPN to keep his war going sounds right in line with his previous methods. "Morpheus" or not, we need to see this through and get to the bottom of what these signals are, and that's all we are doing.GamiSB wrote:Then plese stop generalizeing all of Zion and EPN to be like them because they will be right there with you to help stop the damage.Ebola wrote:But its those few loonie toons that can do the most damage.Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
No matter what people need to remember two things.
First off, yes it is possible that these transmissions are from Morpheus. However, their dated transmissions being broadcast from his HvCFT Beacon in an almost "looping" style, though it does seem the signal quality has improved as time progresses. The thing about this is, is that the original transmission must have been recorded months ago, and how many people do you know who can survive in a wounded state for months, alone on top of that?
And thats -if- its Morpheus, which there is a high probability that it isnt based on timing etc, as I refuse to beleive in coincidence anymore. It could just as easily be something cooked up by the Mervs, by the General, or maybe even the Kid himself to instigate problems.
First off, yes it is possible that these transmissions are from Morpheus. However, their dated transmissions being broadcast from his HvCFT Beacon in an almost "looping" style, though it does seem the signal quality has improved as time progresses. The thing about this is, is that the original transmission must have been recorded months ago, and how many people do you know who can survive in a wounded state for months, alone on top of that?
And thats -if- its Morpheus, which there is a high probability that it isnt based on timing etc, as I refuse to beleive in coincidence anymore. It could just as easily be something cooked up by the Mervs, by the General, or maybe even the Kid himself to instigate problems.
Well, great. Get back to us when you've found out that Neo is a couple of years decomposed and Morpheus is following suit.
shinpseudo wrote:
- Ezechiel
GamiSB wrote:Amen, and I think NightTrace has a point. Although I don't personally think it's Michael himself doing it, the transmission is becoming redundant and the idea of staying in that state for an extended period of time is rather far-fetched. Also, the fact that he won't say anything regarding his whereabouts can't help but make any of us wonder. Generalizing and prejudice now will keep us fighting, which is exactly what the general wants, regardless of whether this is Captain Morpheus or not.Ebola wrote:Generalizations, and stereotypes, are just what I'd expect from our adversaries right now. It's easy to go for the cheap shot and lump us all into a "Morpheus loony" group. The General is the clear possible culprit here, we do in fact see that. Using Morpheus and Neo to tug at the proverbial heart strings of Zion and EPN to keep his war going sounds right in line with his previous methods. "Morpheus" or not, we need to see this through and get to the bottom of what these signals are, and that's all we are doing.GamiSB wrote:Then plese stop generalizeing all of Zion and EPN to be like them because they will be right there with you to help stop the damage.Ebola wrote:But its those few loonie toons that can do the most damage.Its no coincidence that this "Morpheus" would show up, wanting to incite violence against the Machines when the General is cornered by the Machines. He is trying to set his enemies against each other so he will survive... I thought the Cypherites were the ones that preached about Ignorance, but it seems that the Zionists and EPN that blindly follow any "Morpheus" they see is about as ignorant as they come.
Do you have selective reading or something? Those that believe this to be the real deal are the smallest minority of both Zion and EPN. Everyone else remains unconvinced and is only interested in finding out if all our assumptions are correct.
- Ezechiel
Ah yes, the irony of it all. The leader of the group dedicated to "freeing minds from lies" accepts this at face value because it appeals to him.
kou_urake wrote:
((What gets my goat is that if this storyline isn't static, it'll probably end up actually being Morpheus.. in which case the Kid's credulity will be justified and I will be thoroughly sickened.))Ah yes, the irony of it all. The leader of the group dedicated to "freeing minds from lies" accepts this at face value because it appeals to him.
Fatmop wrote:
kou_urake wrote:((I'm even more worried that the twist will be something rediculous like the Machines being behind the the Morpheus transmission for the purpose of provoking Zion into war, making them the unqualified "bad guys" of the story.... ))((What gets my goat is that if this storyline isn't static, it'll probably end up actually being Morpheus.. in which case the Kid's credulity will be justified and I will be thoroughly sickened.))Ah yes, the irony of it all. The leader of the group dedicated to "freeing minds from lies" accepts this at face value because it appeals to him.
[We've always been the bad guys. You know 90% of the people think it when they jack in for the first time. 
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]NightTrace wrote:
((Well, 90% of the people who didn't watch The Second Rennisance anyway. Though, overall, they've done a good job of presenting the Machines as something other than evil - they're just maintaining the system to the best of their ability. The cases in which they acted as the "bad guys" in MXO were cases in which they saw themselves as acting within the set parameters of the truce. Machines don't have a concept of good and evil, just set parameters of what they can and can not do.))
[We've always been the bad guys. You know 90% of the people think it when they jack in for the first time.
((Well, 90% of the people who didn't watch The Second Rennisance anyway. Though, overall, they've done a good job of presenting the Machines as something other than evil - they're just maintaining the system to the best of their ability. The cases in which they acted as the "bad guys" in MXO were cases in which they saw themselves as acting within the set parameters of the truce. Machines don't have a concept of good and evil, just set parameters of what they can and can not do.))
There is no coincidence, your right Kid. The general picked this time exactly as he fights the Machine army at stalingrad to launch a further assault towards the machines, and by trying to advocate more war. He himself, is a man that lives on these things, and I do not believe that the Morpheus being 'displayed' in Tabor is the real Morpheus. Zions, I urge you to stop what your doing.. and think. Of course it is possible, possible that he could be alive, possible yes. By following this 'holagram' you are putting everything that so many of us have fought for to keep, the truce, at risk.
Think logically, do not act untill you see this man in the flesh. The Stability must be protected.
Efficiently,
- Pilot
kou_urake wrote:
NightTrace wrote:(I think that's the reason people can never seem to get along. Everyone has his or her own beliefs and sees things outside of it as evil. I think people are also afraid of being wrong IC and OOC. It's not a matter of good and evil, nor has it ever been as they are subjective. It's more a matter of what needs to be done. We're all on our sides for a reason. One no more justifiable than the other, but we play into the general's tricks by allowing our organization's philosophy to rule out opinions of each other. By 'we' I mean ALL orgs, but I digress.)[We've always been the bad guys. You know 90% of the people think it when they jack in for the first time.
((Well, 90% of the people who didn't watch The Second Rennisance anyway. Though, overall, they've done a good job of presenting the Machines as something other than evil - they're just maintaining the system to the best of their ability. The cases in which they acted as the "bad guys" in MXO were cases in which they saw themselves as acting within the set parameters of the truce. Machines don't have a concept of good and evil, just set parameters of what they can and can not do.))
So you no longer wish to play nicely with the peacekeepers? Have you ever really? Any of you... ? You all seem too caught-up in your own ideals, and are too narrow-minded to see anything past them. So, if you wish to live the life of a zealot, prepare to end it as one. Just make sure your cause is just. At least in your own eyes.