any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?

23 posts · 2006-11-09 00:19:45 to 2007-07-11 21:47:08

#36300092135 11/09/2006 00:19:45 any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Just trying to find out what needs to be done to beat tengu lv 30 as a spy solo.  any advice would be much appreciated!  and if it *can't* be done solo, then please just say so SMILEY
#36300092293 11/09/2006 07:12:12 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Never tried it myself but I know it can be done or at least people have told me they can solo Tengu as a spy.
#36300092427 11/09/2006 11:26:05 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Because of how CR1's resistance/dmg works, at anything below 39/40 even sneak attacks will do so little damage to Tengu that soloing him is near impossible.

The only way I've ever heard of people soloing Tengu as a low-level spy in this system was with the Enhanced Consumable exploit.
#36300092438 11/09/2006 11:37:09 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
I misread the question.  As Bayamo noted you have to be at least -1 or max level to solo Tengu.  I soloed Tengu 2 levels below as kung-fu/karate but it required lots of health pills and wasnt worth it.
#36300110970 12/03/2006 15:49:22 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?

Matching up with Tengu in his own tree seems like it would be quite a challenge. I use MA with my 25 and have no problem farming him with TB, HB and only an occasional HP.

I think you need execptional strategy and tactics because you can't build a better KT tree (stat and ability-wise) than he has with him being 5 levels higher than you.

 Mayhaps I will try this for the challenge....

#36300123173 12/18/2006 12:16:48 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?

Yes I've beat him a number of times as a solo lvl 25 mixed spy loadout.  I would do it with a limited number of pills, the big thing to watch for is the aerial takedown.  Also, I always seemed to do worse with a TB than I do without.

 How I would do it is activate disguise, drop kick to get in interlock, combination of deadly throw and leg sweep (you've got to pay relatively close attention to the timers on this, try and let one round of interlock pass between each special to maximize damage to IS cost ratio).  Do as much damage using power tactic as you can, when your health gets low, side roll escape, run out the door, targeted hyperjump to the first roof level, activate disguise once you're up there, sit regain IS\health to about halfway thru disguise timer.  Tengu is typically outside, I target hj down right behind him, drop kick again, rinse repeat. 

Patience is required.

Good Luck

#36300123257 12/18/2006 14:15:36 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY
#36300123292 12/18/2006 14:49:56 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..


#36300123856 12/19/2006 11:33:54 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Avalod wrote:
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..



Ah I see the confusion.  It seemed like the op was asking about the lvl 30 Tengu in Yuki rather than the lvl 50 in sakura.  I agree 100% it would be next to impossible for a lvl 30 player to take down a lvl 50 npc.

As far as taking down lvl 30 tengu solo as a lvl 25 spy, "easy" wouldn't be my first choice of a word to describe the process.  I'd be more inclined to say it's relatively difficult, but not impossible.  I couldn't manage to accomplish it as a lvl 24. 

 On the consumable weapons having a significant effect on the various construct bosses, to the best of my knowledge that's by design.  The garg in ashencourte surrounded by vampires is susceptible to wooden stakes and the one in the moor surrounded by lupines is impacted by silver bullets.  I haven't tested it with tengu, I don't think he shares that weakness.

#36300123868 12/19/2006 11:49:22 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Huslah wrote:
Avalod wrote:
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

Tbh its not impossible al they have to do use use kill code's. Saw a level 36 in Widows Morr just constanly using silver bullets on the gargoyle..... I smell a exploit in the scene of all of this. Constantly using kill codes over and over to kill the things....... that is way to easy.. NERF THE KILL CODE's.. =P Jk..



Ah I see the confusion.  It seemed like the op was asking about the lvl 30 Tengu in Yuki rather than the lvl 50 in sakura.  I agree 100% it would be next to impossible for a lvl 30 player to take down a lvl 50 npc.

As far as taking down lvl 30 tengu solo as a lvl 25 spy, "easy" wouldn't be my first choice of a word to describe the process.  I'd be more inclined to say it's relatively difficult, but not impossible.  I couldn't manage to accomplish it as a lvl 24. 

 On the consumable weapons having a significant effect on the various construct bosses, to the best of my knowledge that's by design.  The garg in ashencourte surrounded by vampires is susceptible to wooden stakes and the one in the moor surrounded by lupines is impacted by silver bullets.  I haven't tested it with tengu, I don't think he shares that weakness.

Tengu's bane is that holy water stuff. was there not to lnog ago seeing someone just use those to kill the thing.... didnt think to check the players level due to i thoguht it was just a normal way of killing him.
#36300123871 12/19/2006 11:52:35 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Tengu in Sakura is level 45.
#36300123965 12/19/2006 13:26:56 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Renesis13B wrote:
Tengu in Sakura is level 45.

That makes more sense, I thought 50 was a little high.  I haven't been in there for awhile and pulled what I believed to be his level off mxoresource.  They've got sakura Tengu at 50 and moor garg at 55. 

Thanks for the holy water tip.  I'll take a shot at that.

http://www.mxoresource.com/p/constructs/

#36300124169 12/19/2006 16:21:06 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Holy water works well i guess.  Does around 75-80 dmg which would take a very long time to kill Tengu.
#36300133100 01/04/2007 15:48:09 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Renesis13B wrote:
Holy water works well i guess.  Does around 75-80 dmg which would take a very long time to kill Tengu.


Enhanced holy water..... even quicker

 *goes to code*

Ninja!


#36300148369 01/23/2007 18:01:49 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
You can beat him as an MA
#36300260336 06/13/2007 00:46:14 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
You can solo any constuct boss as a spy, I did it. Its just takes a little technique. For yuki, just put on mask, spin throw (i think thats the one ), leg sweep, side roll escape, cripple throw (neuro) , run, mask, sit, repeat, just takes time XD
#36300260338 06/13/2007 00:51:17 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Bayamo wrote:
The confusion here, is that Yuki 15-25 has a Tengu, and Sakura 30-40 has a Tengu. Beating Yuki Tengu at 25 is fairly easy... beating Sakura Tengu at 30 is impossible SMILEY

I found your statement to be quite the opposite. I had a much easier time in sakura, than I did in Yuki.
#36300260361 06/13/2007 02:07:57 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
I think you used to see people spamming consumable weapons at bosses because they rarely missed.  They've been rebalanced now so this probably doesn't happen as often.
#36300261030 06/14/2007 01:01:27 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
GypsyJuggler wrote:
I think you used to see people spamming consumable weapons at bosses because they rarely missed.  They've been rebalanced now so this probably doesn't happen as often.

People have said that the never-ending killcodes are an exploit, but after talking to someone who has one, he gave me the impression that the devs gave the OK for that.  And by God, he's used it.
#36300261060 06/14/2007 02:57:14 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
9mmfu:

Addendum:

After some testing I have found that Attack Consumables have a serious accuracy issue. This is not their intention in CR 2.0. It may have just been overlooked during the combat revision. I certainly didn't realize this. I will be pushing to have these follow the normal rules for Ability Attacks we see with various ability trees.

I would also ask that some restraint be used. Obviously this can be a serious issue for PvP. I would suggest not CCRing someone for using these items as they are designed to be used in interlock however unless its obvious they are severly abusing it I ask that we not flood the CS department with petitions.

Please everyone remain calm and exit the building in an orderly fashion...

Update Fix:
  • Holy Water, Wooden Stakes, Silver Bullets, and EMPs can now miss.
#36300261081 06/14/2007 04:34:56 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Holy water's are tied to thrown acc.

Woden stakes are tied to melee acc.

Emcp's are tied to viral acc.

Silver bullets are tied to ballistic acc.
#36300279492 07/11/2007 21:19:18 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
phaydren wrote:
Holy water's are tied to thrown acc.

Woden stakes are tied to melee acc.

Emcp's are tied to viral acc.

Silver bullets are tied to ballistic acc.
Damage as well, if I'm correct.
#36300279501 07/11/2007 21:47:08 Re:any spies beat tengu lv 30 solo, or with very little help?
Yeah. And lupine types are vulnerable to bullets, vamp types are vuln to stakes, etc.

I really wish they'd fix the Enhanced Silver Bullets, it's really frustrating to see some people being able to click a macro and solo construct bosses / win Live Events by killing vulnerable Lupine type characters with the bullets.