This thread is for discussion of Image Retrieval, posted September 27, 2006 on Data Node One.
Image Retrieval - September 27, 2006
82 posts · 2006-09-27 16:11:33 to 2006-10-04 12:32:39
That's spiffy!!
^_^
Very cool... But what slot will it take up, I wonder. It'd be slick to wear sunglasses and still have the glow behind them.
Now that i'd like to have someday.
Awsome Deffinlty would like to get that so is this toing Org Chapter 1.1 through chapter 5 or just doing machine merv Zion chapter 5 if its the second one is there plans to relase somethin for doing from 1.1 to chapter 5
Sykin wrote:
to me i think it would be a timmer thing Like The Fly/flame Virus etc
Very cool... But what slot will it take up, I wonder. It'd be slick to wear sunglasses and still have the glow behind them.
to me i think it would be a timmer thing Like The Fly/flame Virus etc
I suppose that makes sense.
If they're of a limited duration and have long cooldowns like our other effects however, they don't really make good tools for a Disguise or accessory. I would suggest making the duration infinite perhaps?
If they're of a limited duration and have long cooldowns like our other effects however, they don't really make good tools for a Disguise or accessory. I would suggest making the duration infinite perhaps?
Oooh, neat. I like the idea that Sykin presented of the reward item going in the glasses slot so that the effect has an unlimited duration...pardon the pun.
I saw this coming a mile away, but still awesome! ((Hey rarebit, do you think you could make all the animation items have shorter re-use timers? The waiting kills them)
Code Eyes work like the previous reward items--They're activated from the hotbar, last for one minute, and have a five-minute re-use timer. No equipment slot required.
*shakes fist at Walrus*
Arrgh, I knew it! I hate that long cool-down timer!
Awesome, I figured that would be the reward for Chapter 5. 
Swanky indeed...flame virus + code eyes might look rather cool 
just in time for halloween!
That's not really a surprise for me, but it rocks.
ooooh.... can't wait!
I figured this would be the archive reward, too.
But just because I was expecting it doesn't mean i wasn't eagerly expecting it..
I figured this would be the archive reward, too.
But just because I was expecting it doesn't mean i wasn't eagerly expecting it..
Can't we have a 1 minute cooldown timer instead of 5...? Please? That way we can activate it at least 5 times in 10 minutes instead of just twice. :d
Cool but not surprising. I figured that was going to the next item.
THis is a very cool idea. I know ill be one of the many people thatll be grinding those missions for it. Even though archive missions are a pain in the *CENSORED*.
That's pretty cool.
TheTaxidermist wrote:
I suppose that makes sense. If they're of a limited duration and have long cooldowns like our other effects however, they don't really make good tools for a Disguise or accessory. I would suggest making the duration infinite perhaps?Not for these... But I'm thinking some special reward items might be in order.
omgzzzz i cant wait well done!!! your doing great SOE 
Awesome, as expected really 
AWESOME!!! I'd really hoped that this would be the reward, and if it hadn't been i'd've definitely posted something up demanding code eyes as a reward later on! My only concern is how this is going to impact on the next event- since the Unlimit are likely to still be around by chapter 6- what's it going to be like if we're all running around looking like unlimits. I presume that to get the clothing item we still only have to do chapters 1-4, I wonder if there'll be a new set of items for 5-8 or whatever.
But, those concerns pale in comparison with my utter delight at this item. Very cool guys- you rock!!
But, those concerns pale in comparison with my utter delight at this item. Very cool guys- you rock!!
Very cool, even if I kind of expected this. /thumbsup
The 300 second cool down timer isn't so good for a 60 second effect. Can't you either increase the effect time to 120 seconds or reduce the cool down timer to 150? It's not like such effects are going to lag out the server any worse than the hacker spam.
Swanky.
Wow, thats real cool, I was really hoping that this would be the chapter reward.
I am quite pleased that these will be added to archive missions as soon as 6.1 hits. I wasnt expecting that.
Good stuff
I am quite pleased that these will be added to archive missions as soon as 6.1 hits. I wasnt expecting that.
Good stuff
w00t!!!!......that is all.
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Walrus wrote:
Code Eyes work like the previous reward items--They're activated from the hotbar, last for one minute, and have a five-minute re-use timer. No equipment slot required.
hey wally.. you know you can activate it from the hotbar but the second before it finishes you can do something like /invoke FlameVirusSelf and you get to use it again without the reuse timer. after the 2nd one j00 gotta wait though. just fyi
Very Nice, none the less would be a great addition to Archive Rewards.
*scratches head*
Just a thought, but for those of us who just ran the Chapter missions for our org...well...couldn't we get the tokens and thereby not have to go through our own ones again in the archive?
yay code eyes!
I for one am perfectly happy with the way the archive rewards work atm, the timers are there for a fully justified reason and i have to agree with it.
Rarebit wrote:
Yes... YES!!
TheTaxidermist wrote:I suppose that makes sense. If they're of a limited duration and have long cooldowns like our other effects however, they don't really make good tools for a Disguise or accessory. I would suggest making the duration infinite perhaps?Not for these... But I'm thinking some special reward items might be in order.
Yes... YES!!
the timers are there for a fully justified reason and i have to agree with it.
And that is something I completely disagree with. The timers are way too long for the little they give out.
And that is something I completely disagree with. The timers are way too long for the little they give out.
very cool, very cool,
Makes me wish the Red eye's from the Red eyed agents was a reward, We should replace the blue headlamp with red eyes, (no one like the blue head lamp lol )
But these are story-breaking 'fun' items, as such they should have restrictions on spamming. Which the timers do.
Sucky reward...
Perfect!
w00t nice
I agree that the special effect items should be able to be looped.
This five-minute re-use timer thing is lame.
- Void
PS. Speaking of special eye effects...
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This five-minute re-use timer thing is lame.
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But these are story-breaking 'fun' items, as such they should have restrictions on spamming. Which the timers do.
Story breaking? In all honesty, who actually cares? This is, at the very core, a game. The key point to a game is "fun." So these "fun" items should actually be that; fun. Pointlessly high timers with a pointlessly low usage time do not make these items fun. It makes them a novelty. One that soon gets old. Not good for the effort put in to earning them, and not good for the wasted development time used up to make them. So the choice is rather simple: revise the timers on the current items, or don't make future items that have equally pointless timers. Preferably, do both.
Story breaking? In all honesty, who actually cares? This is, at the very core, a game. The key point to a game is "fun." So these "fun" items should actually be that; fun. Pointlessly high timers with a pointlessly low usage time do not make these items fun. It makes them a novelty. One that soon gets old. Not good for the effort put in to earning them, and not good for the wasted development time used up to make them. So the choice is rather simple: revise the timers on the current items, or don't make future items that have equally pointless timers. Preferably, do both.
Whats 5 minutes wait?
Go run a mission, or get a snack or just do something else.
You dont have to sit there and wait to re-use your novelty.
They're meant as pretty little effects as a reward for experiencing the story. Thats what they are. Thats what they do. And they're fine.
They shouldnt be reduced to mindless 'fun' running around willy nilly with code flowing eyes, while on fire with a cloud of flies over your head. Not in this game, not in this universe, not in this story.
What is 5 minutes wait? It's two and a half minutes too long for a one minute effect.
You dont have to sit there and wait to re-use your novelty.
I never said I did, but I also don't expect an item that takes so much effort to get to expire in the same time span as a sneeze. For what they are right now, they are not worth the time it takes to run 45 missions (at least) to obtain them.
Half the problem here is the development time *wasted* to make such an item with usage and cool down timers that do not make any sense whatsoever from the points of view of the majority of players. This is something the developers should have learnt from the mistakes with the timers on the Awakened items.
Blah blah blah... Not in this game, not in this universe, not in this story.
Then the very thing these items portray should not exist in this game, universe or story, but sadly for you, they do. Code dripping from an unlimit eyes lasts a lot longer than 60 seconds - and there's far more of them to lag out the server while wrapped around with AOE hack spam. If the items weren't supposed to be in this game, universe or story, then quite simply, they wouldn't have been offered up as items in the first place. They were. And as such, now need to be modified to be an item that is more worthy of the effort it takes to gain it.
So I'll ask you, what's 150 second wait for a 60 second effect? Apart from being a darn sight better than 300 seconds.
You dont have to sit there and wait to re-use your novelty.
I never said I did, but I also don't expect an item that takes so much effort to get to expire in the same time span as a sneeze. For what they are right now, they are not worth the time it takes to run 45 missions (at least) to obtain them.
Half the problem here is the development time *wasted* to make such an item with usage and cool down timers that do not make any sense whatsoever from the points of view of the majority of players. This is something the developers should have learnt from the mistakes with the timers on the Awakened items.
Blah blah blah... Not in this game, not in this universe, not in this story.
Then the very thing these items portray should not exist in this game, universe or story, but sadly for you, they do. Code dripping from an unlimit eyes lasts a lot longer than 60 seconds - and there's far more of them to lag out the server while wrapped around with AOE hack spam. If the items weren't supposed to be in this game, universe or story, then quite simply, they wouldn't have been offered up as items in the first place. They were. And as such, now need to be modified to be an item that is more worthy of the effort it takes to gain it.
So I'll ask you, what's 150 second wait for a 60 second effect? Apart from being a darn sight better than 300 seconds.
Chuui wrote:
What is 5 minutes wait? It's two and a half minutes too long for a one minute effect.As much as I hate this item's idea, I agree with you Chuui. For this simple fact, I have yet to do past 3.1 machine archive..
You dont have to sit there and wait to re-use your novelty.
I never said I did, but I also don't expect an item that takes so much effort to get to expire in the same time span as a sneeze. For what they are right now, they are not worth the time it takes to run 45 missions (at least) to obtain them.
Half the problem here is the development time *wasted* to make such an item with usage and cool down timers that do not make any sense whatsoever from the points of view of the majority of players. This is something the developers should have learnt from the mistakes with the timers on the Awakened items.
Blah blah blah... Not in this game, not in this universe, not in this story.
Then the very thing these items portray should not exist in this game, universe or story, but sadly for you, they do. Code dripping from an unlimit eyes lasts a lot longer than 60 seconds - and there's far more of them to lag out the server while wrapped around with AOE hack spam. If the items weren't supposed to be in this game, universe or story, then quite simply, they wouldn't have been offered up as items in the first place. They were. And as such, now need to be modified to be an item that is more worthy of the effort it takes to gain it.
So I'll ask you, what's 150 second wait for a 60 second effect? Apart from being a darn sight better than 300 seconds.
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