Best Hacker Load

I only use haxor for farming and PB mish, where I load as many AoE attacks as possible, with upgrade attacks from Ballista tree.

 Depends on your focus:

 TEAM PVP, focus on team, use debuffs. Focus on individual attacks, use Ballista.

DUELS: Ballista. Stun, root, logic cannon 2.0 FTW!

 why stun, root, LC 2?

 why not root, LC 2

 the stun will have run out by the time you have cast root anyhow...

 why stun, root, LC 2?

 why not root, LC 2

 the stun will have run out by the time you have cast root anyhow...

  There are 2 roots, but 3 pacifies.

  A much better tactic would be freeze system 3 which should pacify for long enough to cast the logic cannon, it also reduces the targets viral resistance by A LOT.

  Therefore,  freeze sys 3, Logic cannon 2.0, root.... kill (hopefully)

There's not much variety with the hacker tree anymore, really. The stuns and pacifies don't really last as long, but I'm a big fan of howitzer. I love using area hax, and I always have, for some reason. :/

 I like to use Insidious Code, Upgrade Attacks, Overclock, Cannon 2. and root or such prior to doing so, if needed. Normally with this tactic you can do around 1500 damage to someone even with a lot of resistance, and getting 1500 damage right off the bat in a duel, or even in pvp, is pretty much a death sentence for the opponent.

The load I use doesn't really vary much, just the master buff depending on the situation. but I don't like to talk about my loads, MxO is serious business. :/

Ballista/Howitzer is the most practical damage dealing support for PvP. If it's one person, you want Ballista/Ravager. The vector abilities take a big chunk out of your opponent's reserves so you don't have to work as hard.

*sigh* and I remember when the ravager tree was useless...

You could just use Code Infection 1.0 since it's high up on the tree and wouldn't cost alot of memory I guess....but if the hacker had high concentration then the enemy could get by. I just think there were other moves worth loading up instead of the Ravager ones that were worth more.

Ravager is the pwn now. It's definitely good for duels because the vector ab is alot better than the stuns you get from ballista, in my opinion. If you hit 'em with that right off the bat, and then proceed to stack the code infections/area infections, then use your ballista attacks, you can finish off the opponent 9/10 times without getting touched. If you get most of the DOT attacks off, it makes it almost impossible for another hacker to hit you, because there's so much damage that regardless of concentration your abs are going to be interrupted pretty frequently.

Even in a pvp setting the AoE DOT attacks are nice when teamed with howitzer, because not only are you hitting with more than one person, that's constant damage.

Oh, and I've also noticed that occasionally, MKT DOT attacks will cause states, so if the person using the MKT DOT attacks is using speed attacks while throwing the DOT knives, it will occasionally cause the dazed state. and so on with the other attacks. (Speed, Power, Grab) Is this a bug or is it supposed to be like this? Cause I'm almost positive the DOT attacks with hacker don't do this. I don't know if it's just me, or has anyone noticed this?

Btw, Just wanted to say that i've found out a few other little tips and loadouts that are pretty good that me and a few other hackers on Vector have been recently looking at, specially ones like Sneak hacker, and multiple infections agaist ma's when in intellock, i even had a really close duel with a good MA in my faction and and SMG specially when both in intellock and the SMG one has 232 viral resistance and we was both on about 20hp or less lmao A no i havent experienced any of them problems dischord but i will be testing that out today

- KD

No offense, Kaos, but I think sneak hacker has to be one of the most worthless loads ever. ESPECIALLY since CR2. Hackers aren't meant to hide. Plus, you're losing a lot of memory by loading sneak. Not to mention the amount of accuracy, damage, et cetera from passive buffs in the hacker trees that you could be using, but instead decide to lose like 20 memory just to load sneak. This is just my opinion, but I'm sure others would agree.

Hacker is still a deadly tree, you've just got to know how to use it right. I've been using it for a little over a week now, and I think I'm almost loving it as much as I did pre-cr2. I've seen you on vector, and I think it's safe to say you know what you're doing when it comes to hacker. Keep up the good work, man.

Thanks for your view obviously  thats why i made this thread to see what peoples view where on different loads so no, no offense taken and thanks for the compliments also hehe but Honestly if you have buffed accuracy clothing on etc in pvp while being a sneak hacker and you take off spy style which then doesnt switch style while ur in sneak so while logic cannon 2.0 is loading ur not visable still so by the time you come out of sneak you've just hit em with some big *CENSORED* damage and litally out of no where, The reason i bring this load up is because its a worth while load in my perpective as it works with me, some people may think its a waste of time as there are other things u could load but when theres a zion filled mara and u wanna pick zions out one by one without being seen this load is pretty effective, but thats my Pov.

P.S - I've yet to see you! Whats your characters name on vector? is it dischord or?

You're probably gonna be angry when I tell you my vector name. disch0rd is my syntax name. on vector, they call me AlCapwnt.

and I never thought about the cannon 2 thing while in sneak. but like I said, you still lose a lot of damage, and also, I like to use cannon 2 with Insidious Code. If you do things right you can hit someone with even the highest resists for 1,500 damage. and once you do that, they're pretty much dead. Again if you work thinks out right, you can hit them with 3 hacks after that, and they're dead. but that's just assuming that you hit everytime, and the person is at full health.

Another thing that I believe, is that bonuses are basically worthless. Again this is just my opinion, but I find it more worthwhile to wear all max resist stuff[lvl 50 stuff with 36 resistances] than to wear stuff with accuracy bonus.

why would i be angry? lmao i helped u level a bit when u first came to vector why would i have a grudge, fair we've had our ups and downs but who doesnt u get me... Anyways, i know there is a differents with hacker and the clothing accuracy bonus because when i load my resistance stuff (which i have macro'd for whenever im about same as with the accuracy stuff) it fails to hit as much as when i have accuracy stuff on not that big a bonus but u can definatly tell the differents, also with indiious code i love it but i can still land a good 1,200 on a guy with 230 viral resistance, but ya with indious code combind with overclock and if ur feeling brave a red fist and u could be looking at a still 1,700 - 800 on the person ur fighting. No doubt i have no grudge agaist anyone who comes from syntax and honestly your proberly one of the best pvpers i've seen come from there ;D more compertition if u ask me.

Normally what I do is insidious code, root, upgrade attacks, and cannon 2. While Cannon 2 is casting, I switch to power attacks, that way you get the accuracy buff, and you can keep your power attacks on as long as upgrade attacks is activated. That way you're going to be doing a lot of damage, because of the resistance debuff on Insidious Code, PLUS the damage buff from power attacks, and you're more than making up for the accuracy you lose by using power attacks, with the upgrade attacks buff.

And also about that Sneak/Cannon 2 load. It's a good idea for that, the fact that you can sneak up on someone and hit them with cannon 2 and they die, especially noobs. However, there's some downgrades to that idea. You can't use upgrade attacks or overclock or any other type of buff for yourself, or debuff for the opponent without getting yanked out of sneak. So, the fact that you're kind of stuck only using power or speed attacks for the buffs, which if you use speed, it will probably hit, but not do a whole lot of damage. or power, where you might not hit at all. If you do miss, it foils your cover, and gives away your position, unless you jump away. To me, I'd use sniper because you can use Line Up The Shot, cast the sniper attack while switching to power tactics, and you'll hit 9 out of 10 times. Where as the percentage of success with the sneak cannon 2 load might not be as successful.

I love how me and you are the only people talking in this thread. XD

Nah. I've been on Syntax a lot lately honing some skills I haven't worked with much. I'm in a tourney today on vector, so I'll be there most of the day today.

I agree completely with what you've said about the cannon/sneak thing. It's got many ups and downs, but to me, it's just something I wouldn't use. but I can see why you would use it, especially on a team and in a hostile environment.

I wish they'd fix root 1 though.

I still find hacker to be a really aggressive load, and can be used for more than a support class. Running around with a duelist or MA is fun, especially if you've got a nice debuff/ballista load going, then yeah, it's a great support class.

but if you load ballista/vector, you can literally be a tank. a gunman friend of mine eSk0 and I took down red after red tonight using this sort of style, the DOT attacks are awesome, with short reuse timers, so I can hit someone with 4 or 5 of these attacks before my shield even gets taken down. So if eSk0 was interlocked with someone, I'd hit them with as many DOTs I could before another red pulled me into interlock. from then I'd use upgrade attacks and switch it up between the DOT attakcs and the ballista attakcs in interlock. but those DOT's that I hit the first oppenent with are constantly destroying the person eSk0 is interlocked with, so either way before the second opponent even killed me, eSk0 would have the person he was interlocked with first dead, and be working on the opponent that's fighting me. This is an example where it's fit for a variety of styles.

Hacker is the most versatile in my opinion, it's what I've been using a lot lately, and I really like it now. I think there's so much you can do with it. I've got like 5 really good hacker loads, and I'm sure it won't be that few for much longer.

As for the patcher/operative stuff, I really hate that. I mean, hey, Bay, I know it's your thing, and that's cool. but I think that buffing yourself to bloody h3ll and letting your gun do the rest, is kind of weak and cheatin'. but it works, and I know there's a lot more to it than buffing yourself to sh1t and letting the combat system do the rest. Some people like it because it works, but I don't like it for that reason. To me it's not a challange. I just think it kind of takes the exitement out of a fight. :/ but if it works for you, then /thumbsup

Well it's not so much that the load is cheating, it's just that it works versus someone who uses a full operative tree, and are good at it, like myself. (not to brag) and still get beat solely because of the buffs that the opponent is using.

We've dueled before, Bay, and no doubt about it you know what you're doing when it comes to that load. As I've said it's not simply buffing yourself to h3ll and back, and then letting your gun do the rest, unlike CR1 there is SOME skill involved, and the load CAN be beaten solely with an operative tree, or a hacker tree, or anyone who knows what they're doing, but it just comes back to tactics and knowing what works against a patcher build like that. :/

nice to see bay has joined the thread From Hacker Vs Hacker point of view i''d say that Networkattacker/ravager is a very good load i've been using it alot lately and taking down basicly anyone in my path, (not bragging just saying lmao) and in logic it has its strengths and its weaknesses like any other load. The debuffs killing off ma's and then contant DoTs just from the ravager tree are powerful enough to take down your oppent not to mention the I.S bonus and accuracy bonus your getting from the tree and also the ballistic and melee defense bonus which is working Massively in intellock and outside intellock. I've been using many different loads and styles lately and no doubt about it, i've been hacker since begining... and i will always be a hacker

Well hacker is a really good tree, in my opinion. It doesn't narrow you down to a specific thing like an operative tree does. and especially since the combat revision, being able to hack in interlocks makes hacker an even better tree. The combo's and possibilites with the hacker classes are almost endless. Making the tree a lot more fun to play with, in my opinion, and you can load all sorts of things to change what type of fighting you want to do. Whether it be debuffs to help out your team, or you want to go all out and take out people on your own with Ballista, or you wanna tank up and destroy the masses with Howitzer. This is why I like Hacker, the possibility of variation.

Also, does anyone know about hax in constructs? I never really tried it with any of my alts or anything, but I don't know if anyone has, and if they've been successful or not? As far as I know, Operative such as MA or Guns is the best way to take out construct bosses, but has anyone tried hacker since CR2? What was successful? What wasn't? Anything? :/

Well I know that taking the Taskmasker 1 on 1 as hacker isn't easy, but if you've got a partner or more and are trying to take him out, it's very possible.

I kind of felt the same way about hacking in constructs, too. Although I haven't tried it I feel that the operative trees such as MA and Gunman have the advantage as far as accuracy and damage go for the abilities that are accessable at the required level, therefor giving those operative trees the upper hand against construct bosses. Perhaps I'll try it on another character, but I doubt that the results will be very successful.

Another topic I'd like to discuss, the force multiplier tree. We all know that in CR1 you could be a total tank with the correct load using this tree. With rolls in the upper 300's, and mad ranged combat tactics, this load was pretty tough to beat 1 against 1, unless the opponent was using hacker as well. But I never really tested it after cr2, does anyone know of any really good loads using FM, or is it just about worthless now? I know there's a few abilites worth loading for the area heals and such. but is there anything else?

Hmmm. I have a bunch of ideas brewing in my head right now.

but i do know that it doesnt really work on the task master in zero one lol - KD

No one said it was impossible, Phay, but good job.

Also, where's your master buff? You're obviously using Ravager, because there's the ravager ability in your hotbar, but uhm. I don't see any master buff in your buffer. :/

but that load you're using is brutal, it's definitely hard to stop those DoT's, and the downgrades and stuff that come with the Ravager Tree are awesome as well. Ravager is probably one of my favorite hacker classes. It's a really good support class, and just as effective in a 1 on 1 fight. If you know what you're doing, you can take down just about anyone with that load. but then again, if you get paired up against someone who ALSO knows what they're doing, you might get taken down just as easily.

i typically use some combination of howitzer, ballista, or destroyer. ill be taking a look at other stuff soon cuz sometimes i do use destroy health alot.. i dont think of it as an attack in the normal sense. merely flipping a switch and ta da, 500 health gone.

my speciality is in squeezing blood from the hacker stone.. cobbling together a bizarre build for every last 1% acc. the new and not-improved hacker accuracy (as compared to other classes) has been one of my biggest complaints about cr2 thus far so acc is usually priority #1. including clothing, i cant get it higher than +139 i think. keep in mind this is straining the bounds of practicality.. im talking max stats for hacker performance and all the bells and whistles i can pull outta my arse. still, not even as much acc as bare bones kfgm, max stats and no clothing and minimal abs loaded just to get kfgm title upgrade. jeez.

in the past, going toe to toe with other ballista, ive wrecked them on account of my superior numbers, tho with a more basic combat strategy. they simply couldnt put dmg on me as often as i could them.. my defense was also reasonable and any hacker worth his salt should keep determination loaded. any state being landed on you is serious business, as hacker defense is so-so at best. you just shouldnt take chances. vs gunners, ive gone so far as to drop smg specialists on the ground about the time they dropped my shield.. smg defense is terrible. i have my share of losses tho.. i usually lose to MA's for the obvious reasons tho i do better against kgfm's than i do against kgm's for some reason.

the great thing about cannon2 is that you can get MA-special dmg, outta nowhere, at any time, no state required. the problem is.. the longer it takes to use an attack, the more you cant afford to miss. in pvp, 8 secs is a really long time, as you vector guys know. its entirely possible to die in 8secs, even on recursion where many of us halfway know what we're doing =D so.. the reason why sneak is great is cuz it lets you get fluffed up with buffs and power tac when youre near the target, then hit sneak, then close the distance another 20-40m to get within range, then start the preload. then bam, pwnage in a bottle. ive hit other 50's for up to 18xx dmg. the thing is, land that then start with destroy health, cuz theyll certainly take notice of you and come your way, after you just half-killed them. so that makes 2k, maybe slightly over. you should still have a 'few attacks worth' of upgrade attacks left.. maybe you can squeeze out 4 ballista attacks.. if just 2 land, based on 300-400 dmg each, target = dead 99% of the time, you can bank on it.

hacker needs respect. any time neo did something REALLY cool in the movies, he was hacking. bending the rules, reshaping the code, blahblah.

another thing to consider is that most stun/root abs are overrated. whats the point of using stun along with cannon2 if the stun2.0 base is 3sec which then gets reduced further? any time that you get to load a hax unhindered is a help, but if at the last microsecond you get interrupted, whats the point? you should at least use 1.0 which isnt aoe but boohoo, neither is lc2 =D and, it lasts longer.

theres a root that lasts more than long enough to throw lc2, and its not broken by dmg at all. good times. pisses MA's off EVERY time. haha =D

I normally load Ballistia with some Artilerist and Despoiler.  When doing PBs, I load Howitzer with Upgrade Attacks.  Today I am messing around with the Ravager/Ballista trees after reading the post about soloing the Taskmaker.  I still have some improvements to make though.

MrMatador

I am having problems killing the Unlimit Reactors that spawn downtown.  Can anyone please provide some advice?

MrMatador

mobius code + fly in amber tops up ur I.S without hardly losing any health

I got a Taggert's Pipeline shirt today.  That bumped my viral acc to 135 and a 86 viral acc bonus.  My outerwear is the only thing I don't have that doesn't have accuracy points.  I'll play around with various loadouts when I get back from getting my church on.

MrMatador

Ye like i said before, many of us are just trying different loads which i reckon if i have nothing to do today i'm going to, and also for the Mobius code and flyamber comment - i know but all i can say is 'Unlucky' lmao nah jokes but obviously just by not having these items doesnt mean you cant beat someone with em doesnt mean anything half of the people that do have it either hardly use em, dont no how to use em (stupid people) and or just doesnt help em all that much, Atm i also have a female character which im also turning hacker at a higher level the reason for this is because i wanted to test the effectivness in clothing for accuracy,damage etc. and obviously i'd like to look sexy while im hacking someone to death anyways, what do you people think to the increase in damage for Infect area 2.0 (espically the DoT hackers) i think this will give a decent impart of the DoT loads but i'm not totally sure how big the effect will be but if its to big i hope all of Trinity doesnt turn hacker (because thats what normally happens when theres a big effect over other loads) then i'll be happy Personally i dont really like the DoT loads all that much i only use em for dropping NPC's in mission quickly or farming, it is effective however espically good for intellock but thats my view, So what other loads have you pwning hackers counagering up !

- KD

The DoT loads are really good for fighting other hackers.

Not in my experience, yes its a good load against other hackers but I've found it can work well against MKT's aswell.  Not to mention MA's and gunners who's VD isn't up to stratch.

Vector abil + upgrade attacks + IL = dead MA.

We need more concentration.  SOE needs to replace the melee accuracy and damage buffs in our abilities with concentration, viral accuracy, viral damage, or at least something usefull.  Even some defense bonuses would be nice.  I wear the pb gi for added concentration which helps, but I still get interupted with potency loaded.

MrMatador