I would like to just pitch this post in this thread since I don't see any where else it would go.
But I remember when Zen Master was "Leaked" (I still have no clue how something that big can be accidentally leaked into the game) and I remember I had it and I thought this was amazing. Zen Master actually made it feel "Matrixy". It had great animations and it was actually fun to use. It even had Morpheus' move, the one where he jumps up high and lands on one knee to the opponent (like he did with Neo in the Dojo and with the Agent during the Highway Chase scene). But I just would love it if the Developers would re-think about balancing the Zen Master tree again. It was soo, sooo sweet!!! I would just like to have more Martial Arts in the game. Because I think this would bring the replay value way up.
So please reopen the QA server to test out and balance Zen Master to be in the game. Because I don't like having something still in the game not being able to be played out by customers. I just hope that Zen Master and new Martial Arts will be coming in the game. I would rather have new trees instead of Old Archived Missions or Org Abilities. So I would really like to see it that new trees are on the Devs list right after the Org Abilities/White Hallways.
And If anyone here has screenshots or videos of in-game Zen Master I would love it if you posted them, just so people can see what they were like.
I always thought it was (monolith?)'s way of teasing us then a day later, just yank it out. heh.
As of right now, Zen master has died since the CU2.0. It was supposed to add VD to the Operative trees and crap like that. Although it doesn't mean they won't figure out a new concept for it. Keep in mind new trees will take some time, because they will need to add a tree to Coder, and Hacker as well to keep the balance so no one tree is extremely dominant.
Yeah Zen master was one of the three trees that they had developed a bit before CR2. I think they were really meant for balance reasons but they arent really needed anymore.
I'd actually rather have more content like raids, constructs, bosses, etc instead more combat trees at the moment. With combat trees it's only exciting for a certain amount of time..
lol I'd love both but since we don't have resources, staff or money then I'd pick more animations since I do love a good animation, thinking about it guns have a severe advantage over MA, MA is supposed to be the tank load when on my duelist and SMG loads I hardly worry so maybe Zen Master should give buffs to that.
Well, the solution would be to give gunmen less Melee Defense since they have lower rolls than MA's anyway. If an MA's rolls were hightened anymore it would be horribly overpowered to the extent that Hyperblock would have no effect.
Zen Master was a gnarly tree, and I honestly agree with Frink. The devs SHOULD re-think it and possibly re-add it to the game. I think that we're in need of new trees, honestly. We've had the same classes since beta, and although we've all heard rumors about the upcoming org abilities, I've still yet to see any sort of announcement of when they'll A)be ready for testing, and B)be ready for release.
Either way, with or without the org abilities, I think that Zen Master should be re-implemented to the MA tree, and possibly add another section to the gunman tree. Also so more assassin stuff would be neat, too.
That would be pretty awesome John....but yeah, i'd honestly want more levels. Maybe just 10 levels with a memory point each. @_@ The possibilities......
I think the test server should be re-opened so we can fine tune Zen Master once a post-CR2 version has been made.
it won't be brought back, it was only ingame in the old system because they thought that hacker beats MA imbalenced < MA beats Hacker imbalence there is no reason to have it anymore, thus we don't have it!!!!
We should have any unique animations to zen master implemented into existing MAs. It would be a shame to never see those when a dev put alot of work into them.
Maybe add a central ability into the tree like some branches of the hacker tree has, for example put it into a tree the way delete upgrade 1.0 and 2.0 are in the center of the tree, optional but not mandatory. Then put a zen master ability in the last part of each tree of the ma styles.
Maybe add a central ability into the tree like some branches of the hacker tree has, for example put it into a tree the way delete upgrade 1.0 and 2.0 are in the center of the tree, optional but not mandatory. Then put a zen master ability in the last part of each tree of the ma styles.
yeh, but the level requirements are a bit different in the hacker tree, it's like the hacker equivilant of suicidal butterfly is level 35 not level 36.
Someone said a page back that they would need to make a Hacker and Coder Tree.
There were already two trees prepared for this , They were
Coder - Citadel Coder Hacker - Trojan Horse.
Just thought I'd clarify that. Yeah Zen Master was awesome, they should bring it back. /sign. However I dont' think this topic should go here but rather in the Developement corner. Thinka bout reposting your originally opening statement there.
Someone said a page back that they would need to make a Hacker and Coder Tree.
There were already two trees prepared for this , They were
Coder - Citadel Coder Hacker - Trojan Horse.
Just thought I'd clarify that. Yeah Zen Master was awesome, they should bring it back. /sign. However I dont' think this topic should go here but rather in the Developement corner. Thinka bout reposting your originally opening statement there.
~Naabs
The only reason the tree's were ingame was because of an imbalence in the old combat system, they then removed it because the Hacker imbalance was better than the MA imbalance.
The Hacker tree has almost kicked the MA's tree's *CENSORED*. But Zen Master was thrown in for viral defense where Citadel and Trojan we're thrown in for new tree's, period. All 3 were gettin' new tree's for something to play with.
The only reason the tree's were ingame was because of an imbalence in the old combat system, they then removed it because the Hacker imbalance was better than the MA imbalance.
I don't care, quit living in the past. There is valuable content out there that can be used again. I never said the Zen Master should be used to counter a Hacker, it would be nice to see some new animations out there.
I would like to just pitch this post in this thread since I don't see any where else it would go.
But I remember when Zen Master was "Leaked" (I still have no clue how something that big can be accidentally leaked into the game) and I remember I had it and I thought this was amazing. Zen Master actually made it feel "Matrixy". It had great animations and it was actually fun to use. It even had Morpheus' move, the one where he jumps up high and lands on one knee to the opponent (like he did with Neo in the Dojo and with the Agent during the Highway Chase scene). But I just would love it if the Developers would re-think about balancing the Zen Master tree again. It was soo, sooo sweet!!! I would just like to have more Martial Arts in the game. Because I think this would bring the replay value way up.
So please reopen the QA server to test out and balance Zen Master to be in the game. Because I don't like having something still in the game not being able to be played out by customers. I just hope that Zen Master and new Martial Arts will be coming in the game. I would rather have new trees instead of Old Archived Missions or Org Abilities. So I would really like to see it that new trees are on the Devs list right after the Org Abilities/White Hallways.
And If anyone here has screenshots or videos of in-game Zen Master I would love it if you posted them, just so people can see what they were like.
Thank You
*CENSORED* man I wanna see that move from Morphine Boy!
honestly what would zen master do? does he like have a combanation of all the ma moves?
It is like Sniper, just one extra little tree to balance everything while they sorted CR2 out.
It drastically increased Viral Defence and gave state inducing attacks, Powerless and such, though I am not 100%, I just read this as I came in just before it went.
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