I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

#35000003213 05/19/2006 21:45:00 I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I am so sick of having to play the friggin' nice guy here while everyone and their mother walks all over us.

I mean, I can't even conduct a simple recruiting mission without a gang of masked freaks showing up, with their ridiculous stories about how we're better off not knowing what's really going on. The bluepill--this politician, Robert Kendall--was a dude seriously down on his luck; he'd lost an election in suspicious circumstances, and his wife walked out on him with his kids, while his friends turned their backs. He couldn't believe it; something wasn't right. He knew it. But he couldn't handle it--started to crack up.

I'd been following his campaign; I always thought he was a guy who saw things straight, at least as far as politics go. So naturally, if he's starting to wake up to the unreality he's living in, I'm gonna give him a chance at getting to the real truth. He deserved better than the stuff the simulation had been shovelling at him.

But can I even have a quiet chat with him? Oh, no! Somehow--probably through another spy in Zion--the Cypherites found out about it, crashed our nice little discussion, and started bombarding him with all their baloney. They even stooped to playing on his feelings for his family. Those bastards have no shame at all.

You can guess what happened. It was overload; Robert was already on the edge, and them shouting at him from all sides pushed him over. He tried to get away, tried to run, and the whole pack of masked bastards chased the poor guy down the street, right out into traffic. It was all over by the time I caught up to them. Robert was just another traffic statistic: one more goofball who didn't look both ways before crossing the street. That's how they'll write it up, you just watch.

It just makes me so goddamn sick. I'm through lettin' people push me around. The only thing these animals respect is the barrel of a gun. And I'll friggin' give it to 'em, in spades. Nobody's pushin' me around anymore.

Message Edited by Anome on 05.19.2006 10:52 PM

#35000003214 05/19/2006 21:46:40 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Eyewitness photos of the incident have begun to surface:

#35000003216 05/19/2006 22:02:19 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Yes, Anome. You pushed him. Right into that street. That man had a wife and two daughters that he loved. So he was down on his luck. So are a lot of people. I didn't hear you mentioning the blue pill to him, or how much he had to lose. I didn't hear you offering a choice like Zion claims to. You are nothing but a mindless buffoon who was looking for another recruit. And when things went sour, you did what you could to save your ego.

Murderer. You will pay for this.

#35000003217 05/19/2006 22:03:22 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Wow for once I agree with Anome. Can possibly interest you in a gold tag? We share a common interest now ^^

Also really Cyphs the logs say it all and if anyone takes the time to read whats up there it's very obvious that it was actually YOU! Who drove him running out of the club. YOU that brought back the wife and kids that left and YOU that are responsible for the death. You know a dead blue pill doesn't help the system any better then a freed one. Who knows if you had let him become freed you might actually have gotten another recruit.

Message Edited by GamiSB on 05.20.2006 01:06 AM

#35000003218 05/19/2006 22:09:18 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Tyndall wrote:
Eyewitness photos of the incident have begun to surface:

dang Anome- show some respect- you're freakin' standing on the poor dead guy...

#35000003219 05/19/2006 22:17:25 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Causing strife in your own ranks, Anome. Already, have you brought valued operatives to flee zion's chaotic ways.
In no way do I support the cypherite cause, but you went too far here, Anome.

#35000003220 05/19/2006 22:29:12 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

To say I'm disappointed in you is an understatement, Anome. I always thought you were better than that.

#35000003221 05/19/2006 22:51:15 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

wow. thats really all that comes to mind at this moment, wow.

You cypherites are heartless... Couldnt you see Robert wanted to know the truth, to know what was real! He had enough of the lies that were being shoved directly down his throat. And you have the freaken nerve to turn and twist and distort things to such an extent that he RUNS away only to be struck down by a car. You make me sick. i think i want to throw up.

And Anome i have a new found respect for you.

- Mercio

#35000003222 05/19/2006 22:51:46 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Hehehee... someone is pissed. Let's see if your actions live up to your words, Anome. One innocent man dead, what else is new. I do feel for the guy, don't get me wrong, but at least he doesn't have to deal with his crappy life anymore. Still, there could have been another way. Oh well...

#35000003223 05/19/2006 22:53:15 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Also, I didn't know you could die by cars in here, I never see any.... Guess you learn something new every day...

#35000003224 05/19/2006 23:11:26 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Wow Nome.. just wow....

#35000003226 05/19/2006 23:41:47 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

It's hard not to love that last picture... Anome running away with almost everyone else a bit occupied...

#35000003227 05/19/2006 23:47:22 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

"The Bluepill is nothing more than a sleeping pill from a reputable company called Slumberil. Where is the Redpill made?" - Words that should've been spoken.

Since when did Zion recruit old men that could easily have a heart attack during the transistion? Anome, your tactics are careless and caused the termination of a bluepill. Either way, during the extraction or due to mental breakdown, he would not have survived the awakining process. The stress would've been too much for him.

Cypherites, even though your efforts were for a good cause, you should let humans decide for themselves. That is freedom of choice. Agents will stop important individuals from taking the pill if they deem it necessary for the bluepill population. Have faith in the system.

#35000003228 05/20/2006 00:04:19 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Heh... Phrack (recursion) kills hundreds of innocent people and Anome kills one... yet the first is a hero and the second is belittled by his own Organization...

Anome, you should have said you did it for Zion, then they'd still be on your side.

-AlicethePattern, Head Archivist, Mega City Department of Energy (Regression - Recursion)

#35000003229 05/20/2006 00:05:08 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Oh balls! lol...

Next time things get sticky like that, Anome, give me a call. Bluepill awakenings are one of the Angels' specialties. We could have at least made your pest problem go away.

#35000003230 05/20/2006 00:43:20 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

The heartlessness of the Cypherites in this case was simply unbelivable. Stooping to such low tricks ...

I gotta admit, I don't have a lot of respect for Anome. But what little I did have for the Cyphs has now utterly gone.

#35000003231 05/20/2006 02:28:20 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Symmetric wrote:
To say I'm disappointed in you is an understatement, Anome. I always thought you were better than that.

Excuse
me? The man tried his best under the circumstances. I'm not one to
agree or like Anome most of the time, but this time he tried his
hardest, and those Cypherite bastards ruined it all.

#35000003234 05/20/2006 02:52:44 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Your biggest mistake here Anome was letting the Cypherites even open
their mouths. You should have called the strike team straight
away and not let those leeches fill Robert's head with nonsense.
They are the ones who killed him, but it was your job to see him
through safely. Hopefully next time you will do your job.

#35000003235 05/20/2006 02:54:01 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

So Zion finally lost one. Ha should of gave up before you killed the man.

#35000003236 05/20/2006 03:02:45 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I knew it! Anome is a Pimp haha!

#35000003237 05/20/2006 03:08:11 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

haha good one

#35000003239 05/20/2006 03:32:48 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

It's obvious how this went down. I always trusted you Anome and now you've shown us the evidence to prove it. Robert was clearly rejecting the system. I know that had you been given the chance you would have given him the choice. But the Cypherites and their emotional blackmail just stopped you from even being able to explain.

They say you chased him into the street. Seems hard to do when you're about 50 metres behind the Cypherites chasing him. For them to try to turn you into the villain in all this just further demonstrates the deep down cowardice in the heart of all Cypherites.

You ever have problems with Cypherites, give me a call.

#35000003240 05/20/2006 04:05:15 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

TSK TSK... Never send an Anome to do a man's job.

#35000003241 05/20/2006 04:23:12 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Those dam cyphs. Anome sounds like zion anit letting you get on with your job maybe you need to speak to Micheal dont worry those barsteds will pay for that one and the others. Can you lot not see that blinding people who seek the truth is just as bad as freeing then? Learn from your mis takes and dont do this again

#35000003242 05/20/2006 05:03:33 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Anome pushes a man into traffic, and you all cry for him. You make me sick.

#35000003243 05/20/2006 05:04:38 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Now thats not Anome's fault. It was the Cypherites filling his head with lies. Anome was just trying to help someone who was clearing becoming aware of the Matrix.

#35000003244 05/20/2006 06:15:02 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

You people sicken me. That man had a family that he loved. Children that needed him. And all you can do is complain because we showed up to offer him the choice that Anome didn't? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the truce does say that people are supposed to be given a choice when approached for extraction, right? Where in that entire conversation does Anome offer that man the blue pill, and tell him of all the things that he will be losing? Anome is nothing short of a monster, and yet you people point the blame at us.

#35000003245 05/20/2006 06:29:58 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

DragnMastyr wrote:
and tell him of all the things that he will be losing?

Hey they never did that to Neo

They never even did it to us in that little room with Ammitt!!

Message Edited by Nicksie on 05.20.2006 07:30 AM

#35000003246 05/20/2006 06:44:12 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

OOC: WoW, CYL0N, pure genius RP there bro. I underestimated you all for just PVP folks!

IC: **bleep** Cypherites, its because of your intrusion and your floods of heartless arguments that he couldn't handle. Anome, you didn't help it none, by entertaining their arguments. You should of requested for another meeting and left.

I lost my cool.

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#35000003247 05/20/2006 06:46:17 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Incredible, and to think I decried Anome when I first heard about this - now things have become clearer.

Cypherites, if you want to go back to sleep so badly, DO SO. But it was your egotistical, arrogant belief that you could force a man on the brink of rejecting the system back into it that killed him. That much is clear. You can blame Anome all you want, but it's quite clear that Robert ran away because YOU were filling his head with confusion, opposed to the sense that was being made by Anome.
I might not like the man, but he was doing a good thing. You stuck your nose in where it wasn't wanted and are now trying to deflect the blame onto someone else. You can't wash your hands of this one.

#35000003248 05/20/2006 06:57:07 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I had a very small amount of respect for you **bleep** Cypherites, and then you go and do this:

<Cypherite> Catch him!

You people make me sick. You're so unhappy about your own mistakes that you take it out on people who aren't making any? When does it end? If Anome had been meeting him on the roof, would you have pushed him over the edge? Huh?!

I used to respect your "honest" intentions. But no more. You're naught but enemies to me, now.

#35000003250 05/20/2006 07:07:37 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

It's better to die painlessly than to live a lifetime of torture. Clearly this bluepill would have chosen the Matrix over the Real, it's all further proof that Zion does not even know what they are fighting for. Anome, you're incompetent, you know that? Zion suffers under your command, your repeated failures are proof of this.

Ignorance is bliss, dare to dream!

Haelios

#35000003251 05/20/2006 07:21:53 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Actually if the Cypherites had stayed out of this, I think Mr. Kendall would have chosen the red pill. If the Cypherites hadn't all started yelling at him and confusing him, then he wouldn't have run out on the street and got himself killed. It was just too much to handle. And then the Cypherites start blaming it on Anome. I'm not surprised.

#35000003253 05/20/2006 07:33:02 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I love how Cyphs try to twist things so they seem right. A little chat between Anome and a bluepill interupted by Sleepyheads. How do you know he wouldn't have offered him the choice? You were too busy going on about how much better life is without the red pill.

The way some people speak as if Anome literally pushed the guy into a car. He was running away from the crazy masked people.

#35000003255 05/20/2006 07:48:19 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Can the Cypherites present proof of Anome pushing the man into traffic?

Because I don't see it. I see the Cypherites driving Mr. Kendell crazy.

#35000003256 05/20/2006 07:55:44 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Was there really any need from either sides to interfere if you think about it...:smileyindifferent: Alas...everything happens for a reason and if Robert Kendall had to die that way, maybe it was for the best...rather than be torn between a decision and well...let's not go into it.

I don't think it was anyones fault really...He ran into the road of his own accord in order to get away from the arguing...so in some respects, you can blame yourselves...but I really don't think you should...each human makes choices...he chose to run away, when he could've stayed.

That's my view on this whole thing anyway.

- Ð

#35000003257 05/20/2006 07:56:13 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Indeed, I see confusion, and I see a truth clouded by lies.

I see all this created by the Cypherites, and now I see what needs to
be done. The Cypherite threat has transcended the boundaries of
ambushing Zion in dark alleyways, and quoting Alice in Wonderland; The
blood of a civilian bluepill is now on your hands Cypherites.

Message Edited by PBlade on 05.20.2006 08:58 AM

#35000003258 05/20/2006 08:01:22 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Fenshire wrote:
Can the Cypherites present proof of Anome pushing the man into traffic?

Because I don't see it. I see the Cypherites driving Mr. Kendell crazy.

Fen
beat me to it. It seems like Anome was actually breaking it to
him very well. He was taking the whole process slowly and
cautiously. How would you have felt if during your choice 10
leather/mask clad people barged in and started shouting and
whining? I would've tried to run out too.

And why the hell are people even supporting these liars? THEY
WANT US ALL PLUGGED BACK IN!!! SO WE CAN NEVER MAKE A CHOICE TO
BE FREE OR LIVE IN THE SIMULATION!!!

HELLO!!!! I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!

#35000003259 05/20/2006 08:08:36 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

PBlade wrote:
The
blood of a civilian bluepill is now on your hands Cypherites.

Message Edited by PBlade on 05.20.2006 08:58 AM

Actually, no, it's on Anome's boots. Proof's in the picture.

#35000003260 05/20/2006 08:36:28 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I will refrain from final jugement until such a time that our investigation is complete.

#35000003261 05/20/2006 08:38:17 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

You blue bastards.

"Blah blah bleeding-heart blah blah let's not tear them from their illusion into a world of pain blah blah it's too cold and I don't like the food blah blah I can't handle the truth blah..."

It all goes to S**T when you drive a man to his death out of your selfish desire to force him back into a dream he desperately wants to wake up from.

We all left our families behind. We all made our choice.

You claim to be protecting the bluepill masses. This incident proves otherwise.

Protecting? I say opressing.

#35000003262 05/20/2006 08:43:18 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Petty semantics won't win you this Rogue.

#35000003263 05/20/2006 08:48:59 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Cognoscente wrote:

"The Bluepill is nothing more than a sleeping pill from a reputable company called Slumberil. Where is the Redpill made?" - Words that should've been spoken.

In my basement.

Click TTB fleet info in my sig for more information.

ROFL

:smileywink:

#35000003264 05/20/2006 08:56:10 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Post the photos of the CYPH's lying all over the street proving to all they only pwn the asphalt

#35000003265 05/20/2006 08:59:42 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

It seems to me the Cyphs would rather see people dead than take the red pill.

Why dont all you Cyphs put a blue pill in the chamber, put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.

#35000003266 05/20/2006 09:01:23 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

Gonna be hard to stop yourself from getting walked on when all you do is run around and hide you fat useless moron. I can't tell whats worse, the fact that zion still has you in their employ or the cypherites are too stupid to off you.

Darminian

#35000003268 05/20/2006 09:15:53 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

You cphys still trying to get rid of the guult. You pushed the boundries to the limit today. You say he would heave left his wife and kids but he wouldnt have they had already left his world was falling about as he didnt believe in the system anymore. You tried to force him to belive in something that he could not to and when you force someone against their wishes terrible things happen

#35000003269 05/20/2006 09:27:18 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

PBlade wrote:

Symmetric wrote:
To say I'm disappointed in you is an understatement, Anome. I always thought you were better than that.

Excuse
me? The man tried his best under the circumstances. I'm not one to
agree or like Anome most of the time, but this time he tried his
hardest, and those Cypherite bastards ruined it all.

I'm not saying he didn't try, I'm saying he should have known better when dealing with such an instable individual. The meeting was already crashed by the Cypherites. Anome should have asked that the meeting be rescheduled in a safer location, like an REP. To go on with the meeting and make an already confused man even more confused clouds judgment, and it is never a good idea to make such an important decision under stress.

By swapping jabs at the Cypherites instead of focusing on protecting the Bluepill, he put his life and the life of that individual at stake, which is clearly something neither Zion nor the Machines would approve of. He let the Cypherites get the best of him, and he let his guard down. I've always applauded Anome for getting the job done as a mission controller...perhaps that's what he should stick with.

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#35000003270 05/20/2006 09:35:24 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

I still would like to remind you all that Anome did not offer the man a choice. He basically said "Here, take this pill, it'll make you feel better." Then, he started to get pissed off at us when we offered the man the other side of this so-called choice, when we added in the blue pill. Anome would have been perfectly happy letting the man just swallow a red pill without ever giving him the other side of the equation. That there is dirty recruitment tactics.

#35000003271 05/20/2006 09:37:53 Re: I don't need to sit here and take this - Recursion - 5/16/06

RogueA wrote:
I still would like to remind you all that Anome did not offer the man a choice. He basically said "Here, take this pill, it'll make you feel better." Then, he started to get pissed off at us when we offered the man the other side of this so-called choice, when we added in the blue pill. Anome would have been perfectly happy letting the man just swallow a red pill without ever giving him the other side of the equation. That there is dirty recruitment tactics.

Really? Because it seems to me like you guys barged in before the conversation really even got started.