Is this the end of the Matrix Franchise?

MxO was one of the last standing thing from the Matrix Franchise, we lasted well into 2009, even when the Matrix: Revolution was released in 2003.  So, is this the end of the Matrix Franchise?  Will the story of the Computer Simulation end when we go dark, or will it resurface in the future like Star Wars? 

As of right now, I don't think it'll resurface, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

   True, there hasn't been a major Matrix release since Path of Neo in late 2005, but I think there will be something new from the Matrix franchise at some point in the future.  It's clear that The Matrix still has fans, and the trilogy will always be available on television, in stores, online, etc. so there will always be new fans.  So I do think there will be something, someday.

Sadly, I'm afraid that this is not only the death of a videogame, but it's the death of the franchise as well.  Maybe one day, there'll be another movie or something...  but I doubt it.

In my personal opinion, the Matrix's story died with the departure of Paul Chadwick.  I didn't like Chadwick's stories, but he was the guy that the W Bros gave control to.  Rarebit was just a mission designer, and when he picked up the story, it essentially became a glorified fanfic.  In my opinion.

That's a good question.  It really all depends on the Brothers W.  There is still so much in the Matrix mythos that remains unexplored and unexplained, and MxO has only added to that (though I doubt any future material that happens in a post Revolutions time frame would even take MxO into account).  There is more than ample material for future movies, games, novels, etc. the only question is will the Brothers or someone they appoint do anything with it.

I would love to see another Matrix based MMO, but I doubt that'll happen.  They'll look back at MxO and see what a disaster it was finanically. 

What I don't understand is why they didn't make this available for the PC, my friend said last night he would've loved to have played this on his home computer by himself as he's not really into MMO. They could've packaged it the same way and still made money.

I also think this may have been the end of the MMO but I never thought of this as a continuation of the films, those are stand alone in my opinion. If they made a movie now they wouldnt even mention any of these storylines, they would continue from Revolutions. I think this was more of a alternate reality MXO to me anyway.

I can't even remember the storyline hardly.

I am hoping someday it will be reboot either as a series or a another entire trilogy later on

I agree with Midnight.

When, if ever, someone decided to pick up where Revoltuions leaves off, they may pass a look over MxO.  If they do they'll either laugh at it, or take a couple good ideas from the plot and incorporate it into their new project.  We definiately will never see wireframe men or pew-pew eyes in a movie (though the Unlimit would look really cool on the big screen).

The average person left the Matrix franchise after being dissapointed by the end of Revolutions.  The franchise has been dead for them since then.  Only those of us that sought out MxO and held fast to it know of this rich story.  On August 1st, you will wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

We have all dreamed the dream, but now that dream is gone from us.

MXO will return.  All companies involved are holding onto the IP rights, so no player servers.  It's been put in everyone's back pocket.  When the new movie or trilogy comes out, they'll be ready to cash in.  Hopefully, the Bros (or whomever) can make a quality flick to spark the interest back.  

What?  It could happen! Look how long the second Star Wars Trilogy took to be produced.  Don't give up on the franchise.  It's over...for now.

JEasy wrote:

MXO will return.  All companies involved are holding onto the IP rights, so no player servers.  It's been put in everyone's back pocket.  When the new movie or trilogy comes out, they'll be ready to cash in.  Hopefully, the Bros (or whomever) can make a quality flick to spark the interest back.  

What?  It could happen! Look how long the second Star Wars Trilogy took to be produced.  Don't give up on the franchise.  It's over...for now.

Episode 1 and 2 were crap though.  Episode 3 was ok.

ArchDuke wrote:

We have all dreamed the dream, but now that dream is gone from us.

and that is the perfect last phrase of MxO.

MetaLogic wrote:

the Matrix: Revolution was released in 2003.

Christ, that makes me feel old.

If Reloaded and Revolutions were received better, I'd say another movie down the road was inevitable. Well, Reloaded was still widely accepted and liked, but the Wachowskis really lost everyone with Revolutions. That and Enter the Matrix, Path of Neo, and now MxO were pretty much failures, as well. The only endeavour outside of the original film that was critically acclaimed was The Animatrix.

Basically, the Matrix franchise from 1999-2003 was the hottest thing since Star Wars, IMHO. The anticipation of Reloaded and Revolutions was astronomical. It's just too bad the franchise fell flat to the general public. With this in mind, it's tough to see the Wachowski's revisit the Matrix, at least anytime soon. It's possible WAY down the road they could be sitting on the couch talking and all of a sudden have that moment of "You thinking what I'm thinking?" I think something simpler like a third volume of the comics, a second Animatrix, or possibly EU novels would work better, IMO. Slowly gauge the reaction of people with some new material and maybe win over everyone back with another film that resembles more of what made the first Matrix film so great and not so much with Revolutions (the real world).

EDIT: A Matrix prequel, anyone? The first One?

Society killed the sequels. Today everything is fast-paced, commercial, and quick consumer digest. Most people don't delve into profound and critical thought, take lengthy anaylsis, and to heart. The sequels were the most vital elements to the trilogy, it's a tragedy that it's just not everybody's cup of tea.

DarkRevenantW wrote:

Society killed the sequels. Today everything is fast-paced, commercial, and quick consumer digest. Most people don't delve into profound and critical thought, take lengthy anaylsis, and to heart. The sequels were the most vital elements to the trilogy, it's a tragedy that it's just not everybody's cup of tea.

The reason Reloaded was still well received was because of all the (back then) top of the line CGI and insane fight scenes. It was practically tailored to be labeled as the definition of a summer blockbuster.

Revolutions was widely considered a failure due to not so stellar acting (fault lies with the script here), too much of the real world and not enough of the Matrix, and to many a very lame ending.

A huge problem is that most people can't handle the ending of the Movies...  If three had a more... "average movie-goer" ending (NEO WINSSSS HUMANS ARE FREEEE!!!!11!), then more people would have liked two, IMO.

The first movie put you in a world that you'd never dreamed of, storytelling wise.  The second shattered all of that.  People who aren't fans of the movie just can't handle that.  A lot of non-fans still don't understand Neo's sacrifice was for man and program alike.  In fact, in general there's a lot they don't understand.

That's kind of why the W Bros stepped in the way they did at the end of PON.  But we already know all of this...

As to the OP, is it the end?  Probably.  I don't particularly see the W Bros releasing the rights so that some other directors/writers could take a crack at a movie, and no game company is going to make another game after the disasters that happened before.  Don't forget, MxO wasn't just received poorly, so was Enter the Matrix and Path of Neo.

Sucks, but I think this might be the end of the rabbit hole.

I doubt we'll see anythign dealing with the matrix for a very, very long time if we ever see anything.  From what it looks like The Wachowski bros. have moved on from the films.  I certainly hope some people can get a private sver for mxo running, illegal or not.

Also saying people who didn't like the second and third film becuase of it's story is stupid.  They story and it's suttle aspects were easy to understand if you paid attention.  What I personally didn't like about them is they didn't have the same charm as the first movie.  I would have liked to see Neo ascend to the power we see him at now, from the first film.  I wanted to see the struggles of a newly awakened One and his choices.  Not the crap we were given.  I hated that Neo could use his power outside of the matrix; he should have been completely human like everyone else.  I hated the use of CGI in them, as it removed the gritty realism of the first low-budget film (which is still happening now in other films actually).  I also hated the fact the movies were one large one, and shot at the same time.  I would have enjoyed them better if the films were three pieces with a beginning, middle and end.

That said, I still played MxO.  Eventually I got a friend to play for a while, but the lack of game content made him go, and eventually me as well.

My personal opinion on the subject, however dreary it may be?

Kiss it goodbye, boys and girls.  This was the last bastion of a franchise we've all come to know and love... and it died a slow, painful, degrading death.  The Wachowski Brothers don't care about this intellectual property anymore, or they'd have had a larger influence on it than they did...  no, Speed Racer and the Superman reboot is where their heads are now.

The closest we'll ever get to keeping this franchise alive, is by producing whatever fan material we can.  Fan websites, fan fiction, maybe even a fan-based RPG.

We're those abandoned kids that passed from one crappy foster home to another... and SOE was the last one we were going to get.

Whatever we do from here on out is on us.

Procurator wrote:

If I had my way, I'd keep all faction Web sites alive, and we could continue RP on forums and in writing. Progress on the Glitch Society site juddered to a halt about two years ago, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be completed at some stage, and there'll always be a place there for RP. Even if it's just me.

You know... what I would really like to do (but I severely lack the skills/talent), is put together a website-based RPG based on The Matrix.  Something along the lines of the "Tactical Simulator" on this website.  As long as it was purely fan-based, I don't think any legal issues would arise.

It'd be a place where we could register accounts, continue our RP, and still implement some form of progress... but maybe that's just another pipe dream.

It will go 'dormant' for some time. It may come back but IDK what it will look like. Star Trek made many comebacks but I thought it was gone after the 2nd to last movie - Genesis?. Then look at the Movie that was just released - the franchise is on its feet yet again. 

Trayden wrote:

Also saying people who didn't like the second and third film becuase of it's story is stupid. 

I didn't say "all people," I said "average movie-goers."

I was referring to those who are the people that hated the franchise and aren't playing here.  Those who never played this game.  A considerable chunk of people who by and large outnumber us Matrix fans.

If we can afford to, we can create a mega city world in Second Life, like Star Wars. Of course it is not an official franchise, but we can keep the Matrix fan community, RP, and others. (I wish I had more time to do so!) I remember there were some small matrix related clubs, shops, and buildings, but I am not sure because I have not logged on there days.
As for official ones, I feel we need to give Wachowski Brothers a few years unless some company purchases the MxO license.

Phrack wrote:

My personal opinion on the subject, however dreary it may be?

Kiss it goodbye, boys and girls.  This was the last bastion of a franchise we've all come to know and love... and it died a slow, painful, degrading death.  The Wachowski Brothers don't care about this intellectual property anymore, or they'd have had a larger influence on it than they did...  no, Speed Racer and the Superman reboot is where their heads are now.

The closest we'll ever get to keeping this franchise alive, is by producing whatever fan material we can.  Fan websites, fan fiction, maybe even a fan-based RPG.

We're those abandoned kids that passed from one crappy foster home to another... and SOE was the last one we were going to get.

Whatever we do from here on out is on us.

I agree.  When Rarebit and Chadwick continuously tried to get an opinion from the brothers on reinsertion and never heard back, I knew that was a bad sign.

zeroone506 wrote:

Kazuki21 wrote:

If we can afford to, we can create a mega city world in Second Life, like Star Wars. Of course it is not an official franchise, but we can keep the Matrix fan community, RP, and others. (I wish I had more time to do so!) I remember there were some small matrix related clubs, shops, and buildings, but I am not sure because I have not logged on there days.
As for official ones, I feel we need to give Wachowski Brothers a few years unless some company purchases the MxO license.

How would such a recreation (Second Life) be in terms of quality, "accuracy" etc.? Can you just copy an environment from a game to 2nd life, or does it have to be manually recreated?

We have to make them manually and this process requires some computer graphic skills. I tried to create some items, but immediately found it was not very easy for me and took some times. I feel not everyone can make it.

You know what the title of this thread made me think of...?

"Is this really the end of Superjail?!"

Officially, I think it is.

Unless the Wachoskis run out of money.

Yasamuu wrote:

Officially, I think it is.

Unless the Wachoskis run out of money.

Wasn't Speed Racer a bomb?  They may run out if they keep making bombs.

MetaLogic wrote:

Yasamuu wrote:

Officially, I think it is.

Unless the Wachoskis run out of money.

Wasn't Speed Racer a bomb?  They may run out if they keep making bombs.

They may just stop making movies altogether. I'm sure they could comfortably live off what they have now.