Update 66 Discussion - February 2009 - Update with response from Walrus

Same. >.>

<.<

Can I haz links? o_O

Linkz plzkthxbai.

Hey, just start PM'ing him for the links, this is definitely off-topic.

I was going to rant about how unfair this wall of silence is. But then I realized, if they had anything, anything at all, they would have said something. They don't. No plans, no ideas, no future. It is now crystal clear that the Matrix Online, as we have known it these past 4 years, is at an end.

For the life of me, I just can't fathom why they don't pull the plug. Is there a contract with Warner that requires them to keep it running for a certain period? Are the executives really so stupid as to keep a game that worsens their brand reputation? Are the producers blowing smoke up the executives a**es with reports that "MxO is doing just fine, no need to look behind the curtain"?

Heh. . .heheheh. A funny thought. What if it would cost them more money to turn the game off than if they just let it run? How ironic would that be?

Archangel wrote:

Honestly, I wouldn't care if the name was simply "Omega." But invocation of the name "The Omega" implies a certain specificness that I don't need to point out, regardless of what Rarebit MEANT, just as I never MEANT that I was God by using the name Yahweh, it was MEANT as a reflection of something that held meaning as a bluepill.

Let me try and explain it to you again cause apparently you can't keep up.

First of all I am going to explain the bible was not originally in English, Jesus never spoke in English. The bible is a translation from another language. So don't take it perfectly literally.

Now apparently you seem to be irate cause there is a vendor named "The Omega", cause, according to your flawed logic, that means he is God. This is taken from your misconception of the biblical passage where Jesus says "I am the Alpha and the Omega". Which is to say "I am the beginning and the end" (Alpha and Omega being the first and last letters of the Alphabet). This is to try emphasise his importance to all things in the world. Jesus even backs up this point by saying right afterwards "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end".

You have translated this sentence to mean "I am God, you may call me 'The Alpha' or The 'Omega'". This is flat out untrue and wrong. God is known as "The beggining and the end" or "The Alpha and the Omega" if you wish to use more traditional terms. I have never seen him referred to as specifically "The Alpha" or "The Omega" alone. He is always referred to "The Alpha AND the Omega", that entire sentence.

Your name "Yahweh", is quite literally another word for God. You may aswell have gone and called your character God and cut out the middleman. This is why your name was changed but "The Omega" wasn't, because unless you are stupid and misinterpret the bible on an epic scale no one is going to take you seriously when you complain "The Omega" means god.

Now would you PLEASE drop this issue, move on with life, and spare us all from your pointless, pointless complaints.

Pylat wrote:

Archangel wrote:

 Cries

Explains

Tetragrammaton anyone? Another situation when someone cried about a name erroneously.

>.>

Also

Darkhawk wrote:

I think what Wally is alluding to, is... yada yada yada

Hell hath no fury...

It's like some of this community has simply reverted to Playschool (kindergarten) mentality. Reality Check and grow up please.

Back on topic: Personally I think SOE should get someone in to wrap up chapter 12 in accordance with Rarebit's plan or possibly wrap up the whole Oligarch story, or at least where they finish having a major role in the story and then leave it. I hate things being left like this. Still, we have to accept what we have.

I wonder what the Anniversary is going to be like. I'm betting no different from last year meaning no new items. Wonder if an intern will take on the role of Smith for the last hunt or perhaps we wont get one.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Are the executives really so stupid as to keep a game that worsens their brand reputation?

You can't worsen a reputation of a game that no one really knows exists.

Pylat wrote:

Archangel wrote:

Honestly, I wouldn't care if the name was simply "Omega." But invocation of the name "The Omega" implies a certain specificness that I don't need to point out, regardless of what Rarebit MEANT, just as I never MEANT that I was God by using the name Yahweh, it was MEANT as a reflection of something that held meaning as a bluepill.

Let me try and explain it to you again cause apparently you can't keep up.

First of all I am going to explain the bible was not originally in English, Jesus never spoke in English. The bible is a translation from another language. So don't take it perfectly literally.

Now apparently you seem to be irate cause there is a vendor named "The Omega", cause, according to your flawed logic, that means he is God. This is taken from your misconception of the biblical passage where Jesus says "I am the Alpha and the Omega". Which is to say "I am the beginning and the end" (Alpha and Omega being the first and last letters of the Alphabet). This is to try emphasise his importance to all things in the world. Jesus even backs up this point by saying right afterwards "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end".

You have translated this sentence to mean "I am God, you may call me 'The Alpha' or The 'Omega'". This is flat out untrue and wrong. God is known as "The beggining and the end" or "The Alpha and the Omega" if you wish to use more traditional terms. I have never seen him referred to as specifically "The Alpha" or "The Omega" alone. He is always referred to "The Alpha AND the Omega", that entire sentence.

Your name "Yahweh", is quite literally another word for God. You may aswell have gone and called your character God and cut out the middleman. This is why your name was changed but "The Omega" wasn't, because unless you are stupid and misinterpret the bible on an epic scale no one is going to take you seriously when you complain "The Omega" means god.

Now would you PLEASE drop this issue, move on with life, and spare us all from your pointless, pointless complaints.

No, you're missing the point. My name was changed 2 years after the fact by what Walrus clearly told me were people he knew for a fact were just trying to create problems in the community. I still have the posts. That was 2 years ago. I've been quiet about it for 2 years, even though groups like Tetragrammaton, etc. were allowed to keep their names. Now this comes up and quite frankly, it pisses me the hell off.

Now, since you obviously weren't reading my post, I wasn't flaming Walrus about it, I was stating my point and thanking him for taking the time to address the issue.

And if my pointless, pointless complaints are a problem to you, no need to worry. In a couple more weeks, my accounts will be closed. All 3 of them.

Archangel wrote:

even though groups like Tetragrammaton, etc. were allowed to keep their names. Now this comes up and quite frankly, it pisses me the hell off.

The Tetragrammaton is Greek for "the four letters". Even though those four consonants make the name of God, Tetragrammaton doesn't mean God, it's a description of those four consonants. So well done for getting pissed of at something irrelevant, both back then and now because of an NPC names after a Greek letter. Hope it was worth it.

Oh and Tetra didn't get to keep their name when it was reported, they had it re-instated after losing it. So comparing your previous IGN to that is complete BS.

As a Zoroastrian, anyone taking the name Ahura Mazda; I am bound by blood oath to destroy.  FYI.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Are the executives really so stupid as to keep a game that worsens their brand reputation?

You can't worsen a reputation of a game that no one really knows exists.

True, but I wasn't really talking about this game. I would think they would at least care about the SOE brand.

Croesis wrote:

Archangel wrote:

even though groups like Tetragrammaton, etc. were allowed to keep their names. Now this comes up and quite frankly, it pisses me the hell off.

The Tetragrammaton is Greek for "the four letters". Even though those four consonants make the name of God, Tetragrammaton doesn't mean God, it's a description of those four consonants. So well done for getting pissed of at something irrelevant, both back then and now because of an NPC names after a Greek letter. Hope it was worth it.

Oh and Tetra didn't get to keep their name when it was reported, they had it re-instated after losing it. So comparing your previous IGN to that is complete BS.

If you say so. Don't presume to understand my background. I come from a background where even using a byword is the equivalent of saying the word. If you're going to use a term that passes for it, you might as well be referring to the same thing.

At any rate, I've said my piece. If anyone wants to debate it further, they can do so in PM for as long as I'm around.

Thanks again, Walrus, for taking the time to address the subject but unfortunately, this time it's not good enough.

I just want to publically say my thoughts on the religious name issue.  Unlike the majority of the SOE catalog, MxO has strong connections with both philosophy and religion.  I don't believe that anyone should have been forced to change their name or faction name once SOE took over.  That said, I understand why it happened.  SOE took their current policies and applied them to MxO.  It should be a "family game" according to their approach.  I sincerely doubt that any special consideration was ever given in this case with relation of the Matrix Franchise and its methodology.  Bottom line, we are SOE's red-headed step-child.  We are what they got stuck with when they "married" DCO.

ZaneZavin wrote:

 Bottom line, we are SOE's red-headed step-child.  We are what they got stuck with when they "married" DCO.

I don't know about you guys, but I feel more like Nero, fiddling away as it all burns down around us. DCO will crash and burn just like every other IP SOE has put its uncaring paws on. And I'll have me a right good chuckle when it happens.

I just absolutely hate it that this update is our swan song.

Archangel wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Archangel wrote:

even though groups like Tetragrammaton, etc. were allowed to keep their names. Now this comes up and quite frankly, it pisses me the hell off.

The Tetragrammaton is Greek for "the four letters". Even though those four consonants make the name of God, Tetragrammaton doesn't mean God, it's a description of those four consonants. So well done for getting pissed of at something irrelevant, both back then and now because of an NPC names after a Greek letter. Hope it was worth it.

Oh and Tetra didn't get to keep their name when it was reported, they had it re-instated after losing it. So comparing your previous IGN to that is complete BS.

If you say so. Don't presume to understand my background. I come from a background where even using a byword is the equivalent of saying the word. If you're going to use a term that passes for it, you might as well be referring to the same thing.

At any rate, I've said my piece. If anyone wants to debate it further, they can do so in PM for as long as I'm around.

Thanks again, Walrus, for taking the time to address the subject but unfortunately, this time it's not good enough.

Sloppy theology is no reason for you as one player to demand arbirary criteria on the naming of players and NPC's.   Who do you think you are, anyways?

Good to know that Mxo is going to end with everyone at each others throats.

Kybutra wrote:

Good to know that Mxo is going to end with everyone at each others throats.

It's always been like that.  Everyone loves the game (or what it was), and has their own views on what the game should be.  As the community has dwindled and shrunk, the tension between other players has gotten more concentrated.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Archangel wrote:

Croesis wrote:

Archangel wrote:

even though groups like Tetragrammaton, etc. were allowed to keep their names. Now this comes up and quite frankly, it pisses me the hell off.

The Tetragrammaton is Greek for "the four letters". Even though those four consonants make the name of God, Tetragrammaton doesn't mean God, it's a description of those four consonants. So well done for getting pissed of at something irrelevant, both back then and now because of an NPC names after a Greek letter. Hope it was worth it.

Oh and Tetra didn't get to keep their name when it was reported, they had it re-instated after losing it. So comparing your previous IGN to that is complete BS.

If you say so. Don't presume to understand my background. I come from a background where even using a byword is the equivalent of saying the word. If you're going to use a term that passes for it, you might as well be referring to the same thing.

At any rate, I've said my piece. If anyone wants to debate it further, they can do so in PM for as long as I'm around.

Thanks again, Walrus, for taking the time to address the subject but unfortunately, this time it's not good enough.

Sloppy theology is no reason for you as one player to demand arbirary criteria on the naming of players and NPC's.   Who do you think you are, anyways?

SOE, we got your name™

"The Omega" = The End

Done.

Archangel wrote:

If you say so. Don't presume to understand my background. I come from a background where even using a byword is the equivalent of saying the word. If you're going to use a term that passes for it, you might as well be referring to the same thing.

And then you went ahead and called your character "Yahweh"? I'm sure I don't have to explain how unbelievably contradictory and stupid that sounds.

Pylat wrote:

Archangel wrote:

If you say so. Don't presume to understand my background. I come from a background where even using a byword is the equivalent of saying the word. If you're going to use a term that passes for it, you might as well be referring to the same thing.

And then you went ahead and called your character "Yahweh"? I'm sure I don't have to explain how unbelievably contradictory and stupid that sounds.

Screw you, pal. At the time it seemed like a good Matrix name considering everything was based off of gods of various religions, important historical figures, etc. I wanted to keep with the theme while picking something that held meaning for me. Don't like it get over it. My complaint here is that everyone else seems to get away with it while I had to take the fall.

Thing is, Monolith was okay with it. They understood the nature of the Matrix. Then SOE came along and it was "La de da cupcakes and unicorns let's make everyone happy regardless of what it does to the nature of the intellectual property or how far it strays from the themes presented in the original works."

And yes, comparing my situation to the Tetragrammaton situation is a worthwhile comparison because, as I remember, they had all their faction members start reporting any and every religious reference in game and crying about it until it was decided they could have their name back. And you guys are whining about me making a far less substantial complaint? Pot meet kettle, right?

I asked politely for you guys to take it to PM's and you're still here bashing me in public. Guess that's too hard for you? I'm going to ask one more time before I start hitting the report button. Try reading.

I guess I do have to explain why your stance is contradictory. First of all you're calling us out publicly (And bashing me too) then demanding that we respond in PM's? Why wasn't your above response a PM? I'm not sure what you're reporting us for, you're the one calling me names. I'm just pointing out the contradiction in your complaints.

Now to the meat of the problem. You're still claiming that the name "The Omega" is a contradiction cause it bares religious meaning (Though that has been repeatedly debunked to the point where even if you're strongly convinced otherwise you can't help but give the benefit of the doubt) while your character named "Yahweh" had to have his name changed because of the religious significance.

Now to the contradiction. First of all your complaining how your name was changed cause of some petty person doing it out of spite. I assure you I have no doubt in my mind it was some petty person doing it out of spite, yes that does suck, just like the Tetragrammaton fiasco. However the big difference here is the fact there is "Wiggle Room" in the naming of "The Tetragrammaton" and "The Omega". The Tetragrammaton can easily be explained away as a reference to the movie Equilibrium, ask most people and they'll go "The Tetrawhat?" or "Oh it's from that movie". The knowledge of it being loosely related to God is very limited, and even then it's an avoidance to the name, not an actual reference or reverance to his/her name (Curse the English language for being gender specific ). The same applies to The Omega. Nearly everyone came to the conclusion it was a reference to Rarebits final update and his leaving the game, the only person who seems convinced otherwise is you, and that theory has been repeatedly debunked. You countered this by claiming your background means that even if it as a byword it is the equivalent of saying the word.

This is the part where I get confused, if your background means you take take the smallest reference to God as the actual reference to God himself/herself why did you call your character Yahweh? It seems you would be in the best position to understand that your name is at risk of being reported due to it being offensive to some (Cause I think we can all agree that if someone came in with a character named "JesusChrist" then no one would really object to asking it to be changed, my faction mate had the word "Satan" in his name and it was changed, didn't see a public outcry from us), but you did it anyway. More significantly there is no "Wiggle Room" or benefit of the doubt to your name unlike the above two examples. You ask someone about the name "Yahweh" and they'll say "Huh?", "That's another word for God" or (If they're an incredibly dense individual) "Hey didn't Bruce Willis say that in Die Hard?". "Yahweh" means very literally "God". There is no if's or but's, that's the end of the discussion. It is on a different level to "The Omega" and "The Tetragrammaton" cause there is room to doubt or disagree on the cultural reference and significance of the names.

Your final contradiction is the fact you're taking this pettily small reference to God as offensive and trying to make a deal out of it. That's just as bad as the person who reported "The Tetragrammaton" and your name. Yeah it sucks your name was changed, apparently Walrus agreed that it was CCR'd out of spite, but obviously his hands were tied and he wanted to make sure you understood that he wasn't trying to be a jerk about it. Take that victory and move on with life. Because of your actions in this thread you're going to be remembered as someone who quit the game for petty reasons and went out in a blaze of pettiness rather than someone who copped sh t from a random spiteful player and rose above it.

Perhaps you're right. Sorry for troubling everyone.

Have a nice day.

Maybe at this point Dracomet or 9mmfu should just go in and change the name of the NPC. Since it is causing this much of an uproar.

I don't think Rarebit ever intentionally meant religious conitations or anything of the sort.  My take on it was, he made in one of his classic overly obscure reference styles to Smith - taking note from the game Enter the Matrix.  In which in a live action cinematic sequence, Smith encounters Niobe/Ghost (player) in the white hallways - towards the end of the game.  Smith's clones surround them and he quote the biblical line: "(Smith clone 1) - I am the Alpha, (Smith clone 2) - I am the Omega,  (Smith clone 3) I am the Beta ... blah blah..."    Also if anyone remembers that tiny scene in Matrix Reloaded where Smith overwrites that one Operative - the Operative says: "Oh god!" and Smith smiles and says: "Smith will suffice."  The matrix is full of multiple cultural religious references.  But Rarebit NEVER intended to make such a big deal out of this.  Although I do think he let his ego get away with him a bit.  When he designed this, like he tended to do, he didn't think things thru enough or how it might go - and this is the result.  The bitter bickering and fighting over 1 stupid little NPC.  That's simply was it is Rarebit's classical tenancy towards design oversight, and it's probly just a big Smith reference - it does look and talk like Smith, if only for it's shiny baldness.  And Walrus explained also, Rarebit meant it's sort of in reference to his end-time at SOE.

Tetragrammaton controversy: I was an ex-Grammaton so I'll try to clear some of this up if I can (if anyone will listen),  Tetragrammaton is in reference to the movie Equilibrium.  Beachhead used it in light of the dictatorship government in the movie that rules over the society. The name in that movie uses Tetragrammaton as a ways to say - (how to explain) "We are Godlike, governing all" - meaning the ruling government thinks of itself as all powerful and god-like.  It's a very Matrix'like movie.  If you want to know more, ask Beachhead (if he's ever in), Cadsuane, Smike, RedLeopard, Draqe, or whom everelse is left in Tetragrammaton Faction.  When I went to Fan Faire 08, one of the CCR guys who took the Grammaton name away came to me and was all apologetic, saying "I'm sorry, I didn't know what it was - someone said it was religious, yadda yadda, I had to take it because of SOE policies ... but I gave it back, I'm really sorry about that ..."  I said: "It's ok man, it's in reference to a kind of obscure movie, a lot of ppl can easily make the mistake." (I wasn't sitting all alone.)  Please see the video links to the movie.  It's kinda a B movie, but it's not all that bad - great action, lots of guns - very Matrix inspired.  But that's what Beachhead started The Tetragrammaton from - not some religious wierd thing.

Equilibrium Video 1

Equilibrium Video 2

Equilibrium Video 3

If there are any 2 major topics to be avoided on the interwebz because they only cause yelling and screaming, it's religous and polictical debates.  This is just stupid.  I say change the name - it would be much easier at this point - jeeze oh f'in pete!

Darkhawk wrote:

Maybe at this point Dracomet or 9mmfu should just go in and change the name of the NPC. Since it is causing this much of an uproar.

I don't think Rarebit ever intentionally meant religious conitations or anything of the sort.  My take on it was, he made in one of his classic overly obscure reference styles to Smith - taking note from the game Enter the Matrix.  In which in a live action cinematic sequence, Smith encounters Niobe/Ghost (player) in the white hallways - towards the end of the game.  Smith's clones surround them and he quote the biblical line: "(Smith clone 1) - I am the Alpha, (Smith clone 2) - I am the Omega,  (Smith clone 3) I am the Beta ... blah blah..."    Also if anyone remembers that tiny scene in Matrix Reloaded where Smith overwrites that one Operative - the Operative says: "Oh god!" and Smith smiles and says: "Smith will suffice."  The matrix is full of multiple cultural religious references.  But Rarebit NEVER intended to make such a big deal out of this.  Although I do think he let his ego get away with him a bit.  When he designed this, like he tended to do, he didn't think things thru enough or how it might go - and this is the result.  The bitter bickering and fighting over 1 stupid little NPC.  That's simply was it is Rarebit's classical tenancy towards design oversight, and it's probly just a big Smith reference - it does look and talk like Smith, if only for it's shiny baldness.  And Walrus explained also, Rarebit meant it's sort of in reference to his end-time at SOE.

Tetragrammaton controversy: I was an ex-Grammaton so I'll try to clear some of this up if I can (if anyone will listen),  Tetragrammaton is in reference to the movie Equilibrium.  Beachhead used it in light of the dictatorship government in the movie that rules over the society. The name in that movie uses Tetragrammaton as a ways to say - (how to explain) "We are Godlike, governing all" - meaning the ruling government thinks of itself as all powerful and god-like.  It's a very Matrix'like movie.  If you want to know more, ask Beachhead (if he's ever in), Cadsuane, Smike, RedLeopard, Draqe, or whom everelse is left in Tetragrammaton Faction.  When I went to Fan Faire 08, one of the CCR guys who took the Grammaton name away came to me and was all apologetic, saying "I'm sorry, I didn't know what it was - someone said it was religious, yadda yadda, I had to take it because of SOE policies ... but I gave it back, I'm really sorry about that ..."  I said: "It's ok man, it's in reference to a kind of obscure movie, a lot of ppl can easily make the mistake." (I wasn't sitting all alone.)  Please see the video links to the movie.  It's kinda a B movie, but it's not all that bad - great action, lots of guns - very Matrix inspired.  But that's what Beachhead started The Tetragrammaton from - not some religious wierd thing.

Equilibrium Video 1

Equilibrium Video 2

Equilibrium Video 3

If there are any 2 major topics to be avoided on the interwebz because they only cause yelling and screaming, it's religous and polictical debates.  This is just stupid.  I say change the name - it would be much easier at this point - jeeze oh f'in pete!

No, no, no, no, no.   Let this go.   As Rama-Kandra said, "It's only a word."

Villemar_MxO wrote:

No, no, no, no, no.   Let this go.   As Rama-Kandra said, "It's only a word."

Agreed, there is no point in changing it.

Omega0 wrote:

I would also really like to get those links, even if they're just in a PM.

Well, it's been almost 4 days, and I still haven't received any links.  Has anyone else received them?  I'm starting to think that Woken was just making stuff up again.

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

weak

You'd think the people who most need to see the links are the people who don't believe you and want to see evidence right?

Anyone who got the links, feel free to PM them to me.

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

Fail

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

Actually, I have been on Vent with you, but it was a long time ago, so you probably don't remember.  I had not yet reached level 50 on Vector, and I was in Temet Nosce at the time.  You were on Vent with a couple of other TN members, Azterisk and Uzz, if I remember correctly.  When I joined in, you said "Who's Omega?", and one of the other TN members replied "Some badass in our faction."  Hopefully that will jog your memory.

Now can I have those links?

Omega0 wrote:

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

Actually, I have been on Vent with you, but it was a long time ago, so you probably don't remember.  I had not yet reached level 50 on Vector, and I was in Temet Nosce at the time.  You were on Vent with a couple of other TN members, Azterisk and Uzz, if I remember correctly.  When I joined in, you said "Who's Omega?", and one of the other TN members replied "Some badass in our faction."  Hopefully that will jog your memory.

Now can I have those links?

Sorry, Operative. Said links do not exist, just as expected. Just more bipolar bullsh*t.

Yasamuu wrote:

Omega0 wrote:

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

Actually, I have been on Vent with you, but it was a long time ago, so you probably don't remember.  I had not yet reached level 50 on Vector, and I was in Temet Nosce at the time.  You were on Vent with a couple of other TN members, Azterisk and Uzz, if I remember correctly.  When I joined in, you said "Who's Omega?", and one of the other TN members replied "Some badass in our faction."  Hopefully that will jog your memory.

Now can I have those links?

Sorry, Operative. Said links do not exist, just as expected. Just more bipolar bullsh*t.

Owned

Brommerz77 wrote:

Yasamuu wrote:

Omega0 wrote:

WoKeN wrote:

Oh they were sent out on aim and yahoo messenger to the people that deserved them no worry. Why would I send them in PMs here to people I've never even been on vent with?

Actually, I have been on Vent with you, but it was a long time ago, so you probably don't remember.  I had not yet reached level 50 on Vector, and I was in Temet Nosce at the time.  You were on Vent with a couple of other TN members, Azterisk and Uzz, if I remember correctly.  When I joined in, you said "Who's Omega?", and one of the other TN members replied "Some badass in our faction."  Hopefully that will jog your memory.

Now can I have those links?

Sorry, Operative. Said links do not exist, just as expected. Just more bipolar bullsh*t.

Owned

Same british brats getting all emo and he's the one who's bipolar? LOL. Enjoy those little vent convos about us...we recorded all of them anyways;p

SAD FACE ;p

Sometimes I fear with the rising healthcare costs that certain upstanding members of our community have had to cut back on taking their pill prescriptions...

And now that this has totally gone off topic, let's shut it down. Private disagreements should be kept that: Private.

And, as I mentioned in my post, "Omega" was an appropriate name because it was one of the last things Rarebit did in the game. If it has a Matrix reference as well, it wouldn't surprise me at all--he was keeper of the storyline, after all.