MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

156 posts · 2009-02-02 18:33:36 to 2009-03-01 18:57:32

#36300540607 02/03/2009 09:20:13 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Wow the story is great. The 2 matrix things is different, would like to see how and if that will play out. Guess still we'll never know what really is going to happen.


#36300540613 02/03/2009 09:27:10 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rare, that was quite the story. Answered just about all my questions too (well, besides Morpheus, anyway). I take it the Oligarchs took Neo's body to study his DNA, etc?


At any rate, I really, really hope that your next career lets you be as creative as this one has. Well done.

Starschwar
#36300540645 02/03/2009 10:30:42 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

thanks Rare, appreciate the disclosure.  I cannot even imagine what will really become to the story line after you have left....my guess? no story line development in the future.  simply a simulation to play in.  IMHO, YMMV, etc.  T

#36300540657 02/03/2009 11:04:08 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Very interesting, I had the clone idea a long time ago, about humans being clones - looks like I wasn't way off that it involved DNA SMILEY Great stuff - and anything is possible.

#36300540671 02/03/2009 11:29:37 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Trainman construct?

Who or what is H? Chptr 13, 14

Two years of living the dream... and interpreting it! ~Variel
#36300540673 02/03/2009 11:30:38 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Helian?

#36300540696 02/03/2009 12:20:52 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Croesis wrote:

Helian?

Indeed.

#36300540714 02/03/2009 12:55:28 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Illyria22 wrote:

cloudwolf wrote:

Sounded pretty epic, especially leading up to the end with the gold halls, sky whiteout and matrix reset.

What intrigues me the most is what would have happened between Man/Machine in the end. Obviously some sort of resolution to the war would've been had (what with man helping get rid of the machines most inherent flaw) but what? Some sort of collaboration on the new Matrix? Would've thought Zion wouldn't be too happy about the concept of any Matrix in general. But who knows, maybe they saw the importance of coexistance in the end.


With the resolution of the war, the next step could be the Machines and humans finally getting down to working together to clear the sky. 

Illyria

Heh, which is something one small Merv girl has been longing for since the first time she saw the scorched sky... It's about time I threw that iron onto the anvil.

#36300540740 02/03/2009 13:41:42 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

All you people complaining about Morpheus and Sarah Edmontons, etc etc - Rare didn't intend for the story to end at all.  After chapter 14, the story would have continued on to maybe one day answer those things, but it just won't anymore.

I need to read this in more detail, I just skimmed, but WOW!  EPIC!

#36300540778 02/03/2009 14:39:42 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Well. I'm just lost for words.

I don't know whether I like it, or whether I hate it.

Granted, it probably would have looked good as a film or actually being played out (albeit at a faster pace than we have been going.)

But when reading it, it all just seems to all be tied up and given a "happy ever after" feeling.  While I'm sure there was plenty more to be padded out.  It just seems unrealistic (to me) for the Machines to start a new Matrix where they are caring, solely because they aren't controlled by the Oligarchs.

I do, however, love the Oligarch backstory, and it is exactly how I had hoped.

#36300540782 02/03/2009 14:54:13 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

I don't have any significant Morpheus loose ends as far as I know. Paul had the Assassin kill him: bang dead. The Morpheus I used was a simulacrum built by the General, based on compiled footage and memories of the original; he had enough of the original's spirit to fight off the General's control, but while closely related to the original Morpheus, he essentially developed into his own man. Program. Whatever.

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.

#36300540785 02/03/2009 15:07:20 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.


Does the same go for Neo's remains?

Starschwar
#36300540791 02/03/2009 15:18:08 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

CPT_Starschwar wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.


Does the same go for Neo's remains?

That one should stay a mystery, and not be in the players hands.

#36300540792 02/03/2009 15:20:15 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

I'm with Proc on this one, the only thing I'm failing to get out of this (its been annoying me all day no less) is how Wright was able to overwrite Mauser, a freeborn human.

The outline here suggests she backtracked through the Zion Mainframe and Broadcast Control but that still doesn't make sense. He was freeborn. And he wasn't part of the super Neo/Trinity genome project. He wasn't connected to any sort of program or machinary.

Yet Wright was still able to transfer her mind onto his? And jack-in wirelessly?

Heck, the only reason the freeborn Oligarchs could jack in was through the use of an android host. Something Wright had no idea about or access to, yet she was just able to do it with Mauser's body?

Apart from that, epic stuff and a lot of which I will personally take as my own canon. Would make an absolutely epic second movie trilogy. First film a prequel detailing the rise of the Oligarchs, the second picking the main points of MxO (ening with the appearence of the Oligarchs from the first film) then the third detailing the big finale/ending build up that would the return of Trinity, the destabilised System, her eventual return to the Source and the creation of the New Matrix.

As for Neo and Morpheus, Neo/First BIP was deleted along with Smith and Morpheus was shot dead. Simple as.

#36300540793 02/03/2009 15:26:02 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Thankfully, Rare's just explained the Mauser issue. It was a fault on his part. SMILEY
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...578#36300540779

Given that it was a genuine error, I'm willing to accept an explanation that didn't involve jacks. Whether someone will try to explain it fully or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's too critical, not with all the other human-Machine-program interface plot points going around.

#36300540797 02/03/2009 15:41:34 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Phew, thank god thats semi-cleared up (lolelectricityandstuff).

Still, good concept but weakened by the mistake and the lack of closure/explaination we probably would have got from it. Just glad we've found out the way we have, where it can all be laid bare and made sense of without having to find out "in-character".

#36300540799 02/03/2009 15:43:29 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

I don't have any significant Morpheus loose ends as far as I know. Paul had the Assassin kill him: bang dead. The Morpheus I used was a simulacrum built by the General, based on compiled footage and memories of the original; he had enough of the original's spirit to fight off the General's control, but while closely related to the original Morpheus, he essentially developed into his own man. Program. Whatever.

Hmm...so the email that went out to operativess before his death was what he was planning to do but the Assassin pulled the vent trick which he didn't expect causing his death..that sound about right?

*I'm still gonna say he is still around but just wanted to check*

#36300540802 02/03/2009 15:55:29 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Outlaw wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

I don't have any significant Morpheus loose ends as far as I know. Paul had the Assassin kill him: bang dead. The Morpheus I used was a simulacrum built by the General, based on compiled footage and memories of the original; he had enough of the original's spirit to fight off the General's control, but while closely related to the original Morpheus, he essentially developed into his own man. Program. Whatever.

Hmm...so the email that went out to operativess before his death was what he was planning to do but the Assassin pulled the vent trick which he didn't expect causing his death..that sound about right?

*I'm still gonna say he is still around but just wanted to check*

Anything he said in an event back then would have been done by the original LET, who often had their own plans. Novalis II was also their story.

#36300540808 02/03/2009 16:07:39 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

CPT_Starschwar wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.


Does the same go for Neo's remains?

Sort of, I suppose. Paul's story had Morpheus, before he was killed, laying a lot of stress on finding them, but I never saw an outline of any story that would come back to that. When players asked me about it in events I've run, if I had the characters reply at all, it was to say that Morpheus was crazy at that point (the Morpheus sim said this once, for instance), and also that the Machines simply recycled Neo's remains, since they had no other use for them (Pace has said this at least once in a very straightforward fashion--probably so straightforward that everyone assumed she was lying, which is just *so* unfair =p).

That is pretty much my own take on it though, because, according to my own line of thought, what use would the Machines have for a dead human body, other than as fodder for recycling? Even if Neo was a genetically engineered human, or hybrid human program, or whatever, in that case he was their creation, and they had any data they could conceivably have gotten from his dead body already on file. And I didn't want to bring Neo back in any form--saying the Machines had been able to preserve him in program form like they did with Trinity, for instance--both because the resolution of his battle with Smith was supposed to have been his sacrifice and cancellation, and because I felt that the story, while it revisited a lot of the themes and characters from the movies, should at least let a different character or characters take the lead role(s) this time around.

#36300540812 02/03/2009 16:17:56 Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

CPT_Starschwar wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.


Does the same go for Neo's remains?

Sort of, I suppose. Paul's story had Morpheus, before he was killed, laying a lot of stress on finding them, but I never saw an outline of any story that would come back to that. When players asked me about it in events I've run, if I had the characters reply at all, it was to say that Morpheus was crazy at that point (the Morpheus sim said this once, for instance), and also that the Machines simply recycled Neo's remains, since they had no other use for them (Pace has said this at least once in a very straightforward fashion--probably so straightforward that everyone assumed she was lying, which is just *so* unfair =p).

That is pretty much my own take on it though, because, according to my own line of thought, what use would the Machines have for a dead human body, other than as fodder for recycling? Even if Neo was a genetically engineered human, or hybrid human program, or whatever, in that case he was their creation, and they had any data they could conceivably have gotten from his dead body already on file. And I didn't want to bring Neo back in any form--saying the Machines had been able to preserve him in program form like they did with Trinity, for instance--both because the resolution of his battle with Smith was supposed to have been his sacrifice and cancellation, and because I felt that the story, while it revisited a lot of the themes and characters from the movies, should at least let a different character or characters take the lead role(s) this time around.

Except, you know,

Sati: Will we ever see him again?

Oracle: I suspect so, one day.

---

Morpheus: Why won't they give up his remains?! They say they havn't recycled them!

---

Who knows, maybe the end of Chapter 14 could have had Neo (as a BIP mind you) come back to merge with Trinity in the source instead of a player?

#36300540815 02/03/2009 16:24:33 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Well, I suppose my own take on that Oracle comment would be a little more metaphysical--a lot more so than ways in which we've already had other developers bring him back, such as N30 Agents, various "frags," and the memorial in the Gracy Heights fight club.

#36300540821 02/03/2009 16:48:18 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Questions:

What happened to the Trainman?

What are the origins of the Oligarchy? They were thrown into the story, then they seem to be resolved from the setting we've known and loved for a long time, but where did they come from?

What happened with the broadcast signal from "Morpheus" saying that Neo was alive (if I remember correctly), and his purple-pants'd appearance in the Matrix? Is that someone else's idea, too? You said that

One more that might be beyond you completely: You said that Neo was truly dead, and that they recycled his body and everything. Well, how was Smith able to continue to exist (Annivesary Events) if Neo was dead?

#36300540823 02/03/2009 16:57:22 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

There are a great amount of people that either weren't around or just were not informed that Rarebit wasn't too involved with the story in the Lith days. In essense we've had a few different lead storytellers. In the beginning, I'd guess it was Aether or whoever was in charge of the live event team. Of course that team was supposed to be working off of what Paul Chadwick wanted. Eventually it was all Paul Chadwick at the helm as the LET was phased out. Chadwick worked with Rarebit and then he moved on and it became Rarebit's story.

Over the years there are plenty of things that could be questioned or futher explored etc. I think a good deal of the "unfinished business" feeling from early storyline things is that they were never really followed up on or wrapped up. Many would assume that they were left that way so that Neo/Morpheus etc could be brought back later.

#36300540825 02/03/2009 17:01:47 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

monkeymanx8 wrote:

Questions:

What happened to the Trainman?

What are the origins of the Oligarchy? They were thrown into the story, then they seem to be resolved from the setting we've known and loved for a long time, but where did they come from?

What happened with the broadcast signal from "Morpheus" saying that Neo was alive (if I remember correctly), and his purple-pants'd appearance in the Matrix? Is that someone else's idea, too? You said that

One more that might be beyond you completely: You said that Neo was truly dead, and that they recycled his body and everything. Well, how was Smith able to continue to exist (Annivesary Events) if Neo was dead?

Trainman was last shown entering his construct in an injured state, but in there he's God! Officially his status is unknown, but he could very plausibly still live.

The origin of the Oligarchy is in there you should read it. (It's good)

The broadcast signal was actually coming from within The Matrix and the simulacrum. I'm not aware of an explanation for purple pants though.

#36300540830 02/03/2009 17:13:27 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

ZaneZavin wrote:

monkeymanx8 wrote:

Questions:

What happened to the Trainman?

What are the origins of the Oligarchy? They were thrown into the story, then they seem to be resolved from the setting we've known and loved for a long time, but where did they come from?

What happened with the broadcast signal from "Morpheus" saying that Neo was alive (if I remember correctly), and his purple-pants'd appearance in the Matrix? Is that someone else's idea, too? You said that

One more that might be beyond you completely: You said that Neo was truly dead, and that they recycled his body and everything. Well, how was Smith able to continue to exist (Annivesary Events) if Neo was dead?

Trainman was last shown entering his construct in an injured state, but in there he's God! Officially his status is unknown, but he could very plausibly still live.

The origin of the Oligarchy is in there you should read it. (It's good)

The broadcast signal was actually coming from within The Matrix and the simulacrum. I'm not aware of an explanation for purple pants though.

Thanks! The Oligarchy origins are extremely fascinating.

#36300540831 02/03/2009 17:16:51 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Did you ever imagine the Morpheus Sim becoming Morpheus in a meaningful and long-lasting role?

#36300540834 02/03/2009 17:22:28 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

Novalis II and Sarah Edmontons were side stories by other people that I did not take up myself, because I didn't feel like I had a sufficient understanding, from how they were initially presented by others, of how they could tie into the story of the Matrix as a whole. LESIG has done and may continue to do things with them, if they feel they can make good stories out of them.

   They have? O_o

#36300540836 02/03/2009 17:25:54 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Quickly, Othinn, go back in time and find it!

#36300540846 02/03/2009 18:17:14 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

O. M. G.

The Oligarch backstory is PHENOMINAL!  I really think it will change the way I look at the movies now.  I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist, but still!  It's awesome.

Thank you.

#36300540898 02/03/2009 20:44:16 Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

Even if Neo was a genetically engineered human, or hybrid human program, or whatever, in that case he was their creation, and they had any data they could conceivably have gotten from his dead body already on file.

Hearing this gives me a sense of satisfaction as I remember saying the same thing to Halborn when he met with EPN.

#36300540956 02/04/2009 04:43:28 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Cervacius wrote:

I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist...

I tend to see it in a different way. For me Rare's story is canon and as real as Wachowski's one. But of course, it's just my personal opinion. 

#36300540976 02/04/2009 06:30:13 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Who did Morpheus attack on 12.2?
and...


" have to fight og subs. Gray-suited "clerk" programs."
Now I wonder how those would look like...


#36300540992 02/04/2009 06:59:15 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

so am i reading that right you would have had a player or lesig player as trinity at the end when the merge? 

#36300541021 02/04/2009 08:06:00 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

nubious81 wrote:

so am i reading that right you would have had a player or lesig player as trinity at the end when the merge? 


Probably would've been done in a mission or permanently available scripted world event so people got to be the "everyman" that saved the world as opposed to a specific player who got all the fame.

#36300541022 02/04/2009 08:08:11 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

deimoslvov wrote:

Cervacius wrote:

I know it's not real, considering it wasn't the W brothers intention for the Oligarchs to exist...

I tend to see it in a different way. For me Rare's story is canon and as real as Wachowski's one. But of course, it's just my personal opinion. 


Remember the bros supposedably O.K'd the storyline up to and including Chapter 9. That includes the Oligarchs and their background.

The same can't be said for Neo/Trinity though

---

Oh and my own take on Neo/Morpheus' survival is to just leave it delightfully open ended. Just because Rare's "line of thought" was Morpheus was actually shot dead and the Machines actually recycled Neo doesn't mean it ever got written in stone. And now that it's all over, we have the advantage of filling in the gaps for ourselves.

My own little fate of Neo I like to believe in? Some exile contact mission, somewhere, actually has some researchers suggest Neo may well have become integral to the code of the Matrix in someway following his showdown with Smith, pieces of his Program (which convieniently coinsides with Rare's Neo/Trinity being inherently programs theory) within everything.

Not only is this a cool tribute to the character but kind of fits in with the reappearence of the Smith Virus (he was spread wide into the simulation at large, only to have his will for veagence bring him back together again).

Not to mention it'd would've made for lovely poetic ending to Trinity and the reset of The Matrix come 14.2. As she stands in the golden room at the source's center she senses Neo all around her and realises that it's her turn to sacrifice herself, as he did, for the greater good. It is a humbling moment as she turns to the player with an outstreched hand. She is ready to join Neo in the ether of the Matrix, two programs who were once organic forever intertwined with the worlds which they fought so hard to protect.

#36300541023 02/04/2009 08:11:13 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."

#36300541027 02/04/2009 08:27:00 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Cervacius wrote:

Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."


In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.

But no, I agree with you, it's fun to see stuff written that tries to enhance original source material. Much like the PoTC films ( except they openly admitted they didn't envision a Trilogy, unlike the Bros. SMILEY )

#36300541030 02/04/2009 08:35:04 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

cloudwolf wrote:

Cervacius wrote:

Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."


In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.


Yes, that is all stuff we look back on the Matrix 1 and rethink it, much like the Oligarchs will make me watch The Second Renaissance and rethink it.

Hrm... I guess you've convinced me in taking this story as real and applicable to the films.  :)

#36300541038 02/04/2009 09:16:18 Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Cervacius wrote:

cloudwolf wrote:

Cervacius wrote:

Well, I meant that more of a "when the Wachowski's wrote the Matrix, there were no Oligarchs."


In the same way when the Wachowski's wrote The Matrix there was no Reloaded or Revolutions. Exiles, The Cycle of The One, Deus Ex Machina and the Machine City, the One's powers being projected into the real. None of it.


Yes, that is all stuff we look back on the Matrix 1 and rethink it, much like the Oligarchs will make me watch The Second Renaissance and rethink it.

Hrm... I guess you've convinced me in taking this story as real and applicable to the films.  SMILEY


*cheers*

#36300541438 02/05/2009 10:10:46 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.

#36300541440 02/05/2009 10:25:53 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Fen wrote:

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.


Time Travel.

XD

Seriously though, I would have said that it was a proxy of some sort to keep her continued existence hidden from everyone until she actually returned to the Matrix via Carylne's interface.

Because to be entirely honest, if she had a sure-fire means of possessing any body that she wanted, she wouldn't really have needed the BIP, aside from the limitless power it would give her in the Matrix.

#36300541443 02/05/2009 10:35:03 Re:Re:Matrix Online story outline for chapters 7-14

Rarebit wrote:

14.1 - 9/10/09
ogs in the Matrix, Machine city
sky whiteout(?)
epn releases trinity into network
battle in mainframe approaching source (gold hallways)
machines can't remove og root

Can't wait for this part, blinding white sky? SMILEY

#36300541446 02/05/2009 10:43:58 Re:Re:Re:Matrix Online story outline for chapters 7-14

Gerik wrote:

Rarebit wrote:

14.1 - 9/10/09
ogs in the Matrix, Machine city
sky whiteout(?)
epn releases trinity into network
battle in mainframe approaching source (gold hallways)
machines can't remove og root

Can't wait for this part, blinding white sky?

...Can't wait for the part that'll never happen?

#36300541448 02/05/2009 10:52:58 Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Garu wrote:

Fen wrote:

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.


Time Travel.

XD

Seriously though, I would have said that it was a proxy of some sort to keep her continued existence hidden from everyone until she actually returned to the Matrix via Carylne's interface.

Because to be entirely honest, if she had a sure-fire means of possessing any body that she wanted, she wouldn't really have needed the BIP, aside from the limitless power it would give her in the Matrix.

You both suck. SMILEY

Procurator wrote:

Thankfully, Rare's just explained the Mauser issue. It was a fault on his part.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...578#36300540779

Given that it was a genuine error, I'm willing to accept an explanation that didn't involve jacks. Whether someone will try to explain it fully or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's too critical, not with all the other human-Machine-program interface plot points going around.

#36300541450 02/05/2009 11:01:27 Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Procurator wrote:

Garu wrote:

Fen wrote:

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.


Time Travel.

XD

Seriously though, I would have said that it was a proxy of some sort to keep her continued existence hidden from everyone until she actually returned to the Matrix via Carylne's interface.

Because to be entirely honest, if she had a sure-fire means of possessing any body that she wanted, she wouldn't really have needed the BIP, aside from the limitless power it would give her in the Matrix.

You both suck.

Procurator wrote:

Thankfully, Rare's just explained the Mauser issue. It was a fault on his part.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...578#36300540779

Given that it was a genuine error, I'm willing to accept an explanation that didn't involve jacks. Whether someone will try to explain it fully or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's too critical, not with all the other human-Machine-program interface plot points going around.


Totally did not read that.  Thanks, Procurator!

So, basically, 'program' Wright found her way into the Mjolnir II system, then when the virus hit and fried the system, she jumped out as an electrical current, shocked Mauser, and took him over thataway.

#36300541475 02/05/2009 12:09:22 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Fen wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Garu wrote:

Fen wrote:

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.


Time Travel.

XD

Seriously though, I would have said that it was a proxy of some sort to keep her continued existence hidden from everyone until she actually returned to the Matrix via Carylne's interface.

Because to be entirely honest, if she had a sure-fire means of possessing any body that she wanted, she wouldn't really have needed the BIP, aside from the limitless power it would give her in the Matrix.

You both suck.

Procurator wrote:

Thankfully, Rare's just explained the Mauser issue. It was a fault on his part.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...578#36300540779

Given that it was a genuine error, I'm willing to accept an explanation that didn't involve jacks. Whether someone will try to explain it fully or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's too critical, not with all the other human-Machine-program interface plot points going around.


Totally did not read that.  Thanks, Procurator!

So, basically, 'program' Wright found her way into the Mjolnir II system, then when the virus hit and fried the system, she jumped out as an electrical current, shocked Mauser, and took him over thataway.

...Yeah.  Kind of like the Electric Gremlin, from Gremlins II.

Pretty Matrixy, right?  RITE?!

#36300541480 02/05/2009 12:13:26 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

Phrack wrote:

Fen wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Garu wrote:

Fen wrote:

Okay, I've read this and there's something I really don't get:

Mauser was a freeborn human with no jacks.  Therefore, there's no way that digital information could be forced on him.  How was Danielle Wright able to overwrite him and put her 'essence' into his body?  I'm really confused on this one.  Even if she did do that, how was she able to jack him in?  Even if she had his body, he still didn't have jacks.


Time Travel.

XD

Seriously though, I would have said that it was a proxy of some sort to keep her continued existence hidden from everyone until she actually returned to the Matrix via Carylne's interface.

Because to be entirely honest, if she had a sure-fire means of possessing any body that she wanted, she wouldn't really have needed the BIP, aside from the limitless power it would give her in the Matrix.

You both suck.

Procurator wrote:

Thankfully, Rare's just explained the Mauser issue. It was a fault on his part.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...578#36300540779

Given that it was a genuine error, I'm willing to accept an explanation that didn't involve jacks. Whether someone will try to explain it fully or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's too critical, not with all the other human-Machine-program interface plot points going around.


Totally did not read that.  Thanks, Procurator!

So, basically, 'program' Wright found her way into the Mjolnir II system, then when the virus hit and fried the system, she jumped out as an electrical current, shocked Mauser, and took him over thataway.

...Yeah.  Kind of like the Electric Gremlin, from Gremlins II.

Pretty Matrixy, right?  RITE?!

Nah, the only thing that's matrixy is the Machines-Humans war! :p

Sorry, didn't mean any offense, I just couldn't help it  

#36300541485 02/05/2009 12:16:44 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

/activatepewpewlaserflymonstersuperoligarchygoldenhallwaypowers

#36300541488 02/05/2009 12:26:07 Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

I dunno, what at first sounded rediculous (it was a mid-storyline continuacy fix afterall) I've come to like the idea of.

Think about it, Wright waking up in Mauser's body unexpectedly, that would've been a total mind----. Then, the way I see it at least, him/her prowling the real with a crazy super electricitied body, jacking into random old world surface jacks with his body's current alone.

I dunno, the image is just cool in my head. Must've been a lot of internal character development/conflict during that time (burying your own body ffs) as well, which just adds gravity to the whole thing. A tortured body and soul, the result of a master plan gone terribly ary, walking the darkness with only her conviction to keep her going. Its just cool darn it.

#36300541490 02/05/2009 12:33:22 Re:Re:MXO story outline for chapters 7-14

cloudwolf wrote:

I dunno, what at first sounded rediculous (it was a mid-storyline continuacy fix afterall) I've come to like the idea of.

Think about it, Wright waking up in Mauser's body unexpectedly, that would've been a total mind----. Then, the way I see it at least, him/her prowling the real with a crazy super electricitied body, jacking into random old world surface jacks with his body's current alone.

I dunno, the image is just cool in my head. Must've been a lot of internal character development/conflict during that time (burying your own body ffs) as well, which just adds gravity to the whole thing. A tortured body and soul, the result of a master plan gone terribly ary, walking the darkness with only her conviction to keep her going. Its just cool darn it.


Colonel Volgin!!