CERN's LHC: End of the world begins 10 Sep!!!

So CERN's Large Hadron Collider is gonna get turned on on 10th September underground in Switzerland. Some people fear that the experiment will create miniature black holes, in fact two people are so worried that a miniature black hole will expand (disproving Hawkins' theory that a miniature black hole would evaporate in a billionth of a billionth of a second) and swallow the Earth, that they have filed a lawsuit to stop it... in Hawaii. While it's doubtful that that suit will be successful, there are others who are persuing the issue in the European Court of Human Rights.

What do you think, unfounded fear, or doomsday approaching?

I think anyone who doesn't listen to a very large number of scientists is a fool.

That is all. I shall try to restrain myself on this issue. I went the cosmology route anyway, leaving particle physics in my last year.

5 Scientific Experiments most likely to end the world.

*Laughs.*

I like their summaries of them. They haven't got a clue, but they put it so nicely.

Personally I'm more worried that Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse will get married and produce mutant babies that will enslave humanity with their bizarre sounding voices.

I think anyone who doesn't listen to a very large number of scientists is a fool.

I do not think humans are the main cause of the current 'global warming' climate. Am I a fool?

No. I don't think global warming is entirely our fault either. But then, I'm not convinced there are a very large number of scientists saying it is our fault. Or, to be more accurate, there are an equally large number of scientists saying it isn't our fault, so they cancel out.

The issue with CERN is that there are a couple of crackpots up against a load of experts. The global warming debate is two large groups of clever people up against each other.

Of course it would be nice if we didn't die at all.

Meh if it happens we will just be blinked out of existence. So it wouldnt matter if it did swallow us up. Its better than getting shot right?

Do we get cookies when we get to the other side?

Awesome, i've been waiting for this for a few years. Hope all goes well.

And personally, i'd be more worried about HAARP than the collider.

Do we get cookies when we get to the other side?

Awesome, i've been waiting for this for a few years. Hope all goes well.

And personally, i'd be more worried about HAARP than the collider.

MxO_Neopill wrote:

Awesome, i've been waiting for this for a few years. Hope all goes well.

And personally, i'd be more worried about HAARP than the collider.

Just thought I'd tell ya, 404 not found.

One guy even claimed he was sent back through time via our government to warn physicists that turning the machine on will cause a tear in the space/time contiuum. 

This is a topic fairly near and dear to me, as I designed the web site for the LHC through my company in Chicago. The amount of wacko emails we get via the accompanying blog, or in general, has been steadily increasing as the "first beam" date for the LHC draws closer. One guy even claimed he was sent back through time via our government to warn physicists that turning the machine on will cause a tear in the space/time contiuum. 

Nice site.

If they wink us out of existence, I blame you.

This is a topic fairly near and dear to me, as I designed the web site for the LHC through my company in Chicago.

I have only done this once before.

I have only done this once before.

Rarebit wrote:

I have only done this once before.

What? time travelled or sucked into a black hole? IS THERE COOKIES!!!

I wouldn't mind if the world ended anyway. My checklist is already complete:

Play the greatest game ever: Check

Drink 20 sodas in one night: Check

Play Mercenaries 2: Check

I find it funny that he's come to warn us about our impending doom when; if he knows about our impending doom, it would mean.... he would already be dead.

I have only done this once before.

shinpseudo wrote:

This is a topic fairly near and dear to me, as I designed the web site for the LHC through my company in Chicago.

Good stuff! Although technically this is the site for the LHC. Yours is for a particular (no pun intended) research group as far as I can tell.

pyro20 wrote:

Personally I'm more worried that Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse will get married and produce mutant babies that will enslave humanity with their bizarre sounding voices.

You made me laugh coffee from my nose

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

phi wrote:

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

If I remember correctly your talking about the super string theory, or something along that line.

Blackhole on earth...whoah... 

That surely won't be good for Mxo's subscriptions

*Now playing : REM - It's the end of the world as we know it.*

ReProgrammed wrote:

phi wrote:

If you are familiar with the concept of multiple universes the most likely outcome of time travel is that the time traveller ends up in a different universe.

Think of it like this:
- you invent a time travel device
- you travel to yesterday and go and visit yourself
- as you didn't visit yourself yesterday, you end up in a universe where you DID visit yourself yesterday. (this is the commonly agreed upon solution to the grandfather paradox. Travel back in time and kill your grandfather and you would never have been born. So if you weren't born how did you travel back in time and kill your grandfather? The answer: by being born in one universe and killing your crandfather in a near identical universe. Current dimentional theory predicts that there is a universe for every possible eventuality, and even the impossible eventualities. Like ones that could only happen in a universe where physics is different).

Time, like space, is distortable but not changeable. A bit like an orange... you can squash it (change the arrangement of it's particles) but can't change it into a planet, the total energy of the system is different. (simplified for illustrative purposes)

If I remember correctly your talking about the super string theory, or something along that line.

Super String theory is based off that 10/11 dimentional structure, yes.

Time travel is folding through the 5th dimention in that model. Paradox-free time travel involves folding through the 6th or higher dimention.

Quick explination of 10 dimentional structure (It's not quite accurate but a very good illustrative explination)...
PART 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
PART 2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o