Prestige Levels. (NOT an increase in level cap)

I would have to agree with this idea. Ultimately, SOE have relied upon factions to help support the new player and encourage them to keep subscribing to the game. The days of the Redpill Greeters has long gone and it would be nice if there was a way in which supportive level 50s could be recognized for their efforts.

The concept which Darkangelus suggests would also provide benefits for the new player, as they could make an informed choice as to which factions are most likely to provide the promised support; the prestige levels of prospective candidates could be compared.

However, the enrichment provided to the community by planning and running an RP would be a difficult one to measure. I can't easily see how prestige points would be awarded for these: may be a positive form of /ccr could be used, where players could notify the CSRs that the RP organizer had provided a noteworthy contribution. If the RP organizer had used an alt to run the RP, the CSR could ask the account holder which character they would like to receive the prestige points.

Unfortunately, I can foresee that some might still look to abuse the system, or for points to be awarded due to friendships rather than true merit, were it to be set up...  I guess that anything which encourages players to have a renewed focus on these elements, can't be bad in any form.

I think this is a good idea, would be great to see something like this implemented in game. Especially if it gets more things going ingame like player events and RP.

Hmmm... I think that the xp aspect of "prestige points" is possibly the least reflective of someone who is helping other players in the community. Every veteran will have acquired a reasonable amount of additional xp, just from running critical missions and the like. However, running missions with low level players, coding them items and abilities are possibly a very small amount of that additional xp.

As I said before, a positive form of /ccr would allow people to recognise the contribution of others, and directly reflect positive feedback; rather than just a coincidental amount of xp. Other than RP/Event organisers who I mentioned above, it would allow for people such as DJs to be "rewarded" for their contribution.

However, the flood of nominations would probably be an administrative nightmare for the CSRs. It might be that "prestige points" would have to be accepted as being worthily awarded by voter and automatically added to the nominee's details. The possible abuse could be reduced by restricting how many (1?) which each player could award per month.

It was said a long time ago, that all earned experience past maximum is still updated in the database

Mathalos wrote:

It was said a long time ago, that all earned experience past maximum is still updated in the database

I don't think that's accurate. As far as I can see in character data, it stops at 314624999.

Rarebit wrote:

Mathalos wrote:

It was said a long time ago, that all earned experience past maximum is still updated in the database

I don't think that's accurate. As far as I can see in character data, it stops at 314624999.

It was said in the following article that they would store data on any experience gained over the maximum.

http://mxovault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=7768

According to that article, players who at that time had XP in excess of the now-imposed XP cap had their XP at that time scribbled down somewhere in the database or in some engineer's spreadsheet. With the mentioned patch, everyone with XP equivalent to level 51 or above had their XP set to maximum (i.e. the XP cap you see in the character details) and lost their "above and beyond" XP, spare the number written down on Buddy Guy's spreadsheet. As the article states, the XP cap was imposed at the same time, which means that no one has gained a single XP beyond the cap since that time.

This also means that if your epic XP was not written down in the Chen Qui Anals at that point, you have never had XP beyond the cap, and never will. And since I'm guessing they never planned on raising the level cap, Gary's spreadsheet was probably cast into the fire during the SoE transition.

While this means that upping the level cap by changing the XP cap in some way is not impossible, it does mean that there's likely to be problems somewhere along the road if it's attempted. The better option for implementing this idea would be a second XP tracker which increments independently of the level XP tracker. If I understand the idea properly, this would be like a "helper level" and would increment only when there are multiple members of your team while you are running missions. It may not even start until you are level 50, or at maximum experience.

However, I don't foresee even the display of character level as above the cap as real feasibility without messing with core mechanics (which is not a good idea). For example, there would probably be a trouble with the database reading the character level as 51 and assigning you extra stat points and ability levels. Beside that, there's the fact that it removes some of the difference between players and Live Event characters, especially if your display level is at or equal to Niobe's or Cryptos's.

And even if working intended, displaying another simple number with no benefits or a number above 50 on your details shot, I don't think the work involved would really be worth it.

Alright, limmie just put this out here for a second, why is there even a lvl system in mxo? I understand it's a game but why place a limit on lvl, why not have another means of showing who is stronger? Players that work hard, gain loads of info, have all the abilities, all the good items, those players should gain more resistance, there shouldn't be a lvl that defines how strong you are, in the real Matrix do you really think Niobe Would and is stronger then Agent Gray? Niobe is what, lvl 60? And Gray is seen most of the time in missions and such as lvl 55, which imo is bs.

This is what I think should happen, to stop all the complaining and to make it so those that work for such power be givin such power.

1. Remove the levels. (There shouldn't be a level in this game to define a players skill.)

2. The only thing that should happen when you (lvl up) is your resistance, accuracy, damage and defense should increase.

3. For clothing, add a XP meter on clothing, you need this amount of XP to wear this item. This way XP never stops raising and a player can become stronger if they work for it.

There was no limits on the Operatives during the movies, so why are they given a level beyond that of players reach? We should be able to get the same resistances and damage that they can get if we work hard for it. Levels in a computer game that never ends is just dumb, MxO should remake it'self as a new bread where just XP = your skill. 

/twocents

2. The only thing that should happen when you (lvl up) is your resistance, accuracy, damage and defense should increase.

3. For clothing, add a XP meter on clothing, you need this amount of XP to wear this item. This way XP never stops raising and a player can become stronger if they work for it.

Alright, limmie just put this out here for a second, why is there even a lvl system in mxo? I understand it's a game but why place a limit on lvl, why not have another means of showing who is stronger? Players that work hard, gain loads of info, have all the abilities, all the good items, those players should gain more resistance, there shouldn't be a lvl that defines how strong you are, in the real Matrix do you really think Niobe Would and is stronger then Agent Gray? Niobe is what, lvl 60? And Gray is seen most of the time in missions and such as lvl 55, which imo is bs.

This is what I think should happen, to stop all the complaining and to make it so those that work for such power be givin such power.

1. Remove the levels. (There shouldn't be a level in this game to define a players skill.)

2. The only thing that should happen when you (lvl up) is your resistance, accuracy, damage and defense should increase.

3. For clothing, add a XP meter on clothing, you need this amount of XP to wear this item. This way XP never stops raising and a player can become stronger if they work for it.

There was no limits on the Operatives during the movies, so why are they given a level beyond that of players reach? We should be able to get the same resistances and damage that they can get if we work hard for it. Levels in a computer game that never ends is just dumb, MxO should remake it'self as a new bread where just XP = your skill. 

/twocents

Nah, Agent Gray and Niobe are not at the same lvl. All Agents imo should be the highest in the game. But that's just it, Level is the base of the whole game, for those that have helped countless noobies, have farmed countless items for themselves and others, those people get nothing, their true XP is much higher then the max. Yet because of the level system it's stopped at 50, the lvl system should be removed, so that there is no cap, just place a cap on the highest resistance, damage, accuracy, defense. XP itself shouldn't stop raising, and I know for a fact that the higher the level the resistance evens out at around 60. 255 Agents have a different Resistance I think or they were just given 300% HP regain. Players should be able to get their resistance, damage, accuracy and defense to the same as a level 60, it doesn't matter if it's the same as Niobe or Ghost, they are operatives just like the rest of us, and I for a fact know way more about the matrix then Niobe does, all she ever does is run, pfft.

Level in a game where your mind determinds how powerful you are is nonsense, and you all know it would be way more realistic and awsome if level was taken out and XP determind your charactors power over the matrix.

Besides, I'd be like level 75 or more right now, just cap the resistance, accuracy, damage, defense, and allow players to continue to gain XP.

I don't think that's accurate. As far as I can see in character data, it stops at 314624999.

Level in a game where your mind determinds how powerful you are is nonsense, and you all know it would be way more realistic and awsome if level was taken out and XP determind your charactors power over the matrix.

/ontopic

This thread is not to do with changing the level cap, nor any discussion on it. It concerns an indicator to show the players reputation within the community.

Rarebit wrote:

Mathalos wrote:

It was said a long time ago, that all earned experience past maximum is still updated in the database

I don't think that's accurate. As far as I can see in character data, it stops at 314624999.

It was said in the following article that they would store data on any experience gained over the maximum.

http://mxovault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=7768