the female gi

I was previously unaware that posting on forums was such serious business that two fellow posters could not joke around.

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But I do see Pylats point, all people have said it "YOO LYK 2 CYBORZ!", I dont know about you but I know if I see a pair of digital legs, I think I can hold myself together.  Its all just enforcing the point that there is no real reason that anyone can think of that qualifys the change.

And yes, the odd person will like the new style, but what about all the people that liked it before hand?  Obviously we are just here to make up the numbers because no one actually cares about what we think.

Obviously we are just here to make up the numbers because no one actually cares about what we think.

Oh, you see.  I was previously unaware that posting on forums was such serious business that two fellow posters could not joke around.  Thank you for your information, Pylat - as I now know what when posting I must use the utmost sincerity.  Otherwise, who knows, people might have fun!

Obviously we are just here to make up the numbers because no one actually cares about what we think.

Welcome to the Real.

Nobody here cares because we're all customers just like everyone else.  No one wants to hear complaints when they're perfectly satisfied themselves.  That's just human nature. 

It's like going to your favorite restaurant and sitting next to the guy who is perpetually griping about his over-cooked steak to the other patrons.  All you want him to do is shut up and leave, if he's so unhappy, so you can enjoy your meal without his ranting.

I digress.

Despite the objection of your peers, you should feel free to voice your opinions on things.  We may not care but I'm sure the "powers that be" do care.  I'm positive that many of the heated debates carried out on these forums over the years has helped forge the game.

Changes may not always take place but they all began with a gripe, imo.

BTW:  I actually do like the new Gi model.  I never wore them before because I hated them being pantless.  I appreciated the nod towards Final Flight but they were horrible looking.  I might actually wear them now. 

Interesting that most people who want to keep the Gi's with pants can only flame and flamebait and throw temper tantrums. Valid points only please.

From ALL the people I have talked to in game ONE PERSON liked the new Gi's, just have both models, or add a new stocking type as was suggested. Then people can wear the "Pants" with their miniskirts to cover themselves up.

Pylat wrote:

Interesting that most people who want to keep the Gi's with pants can only flame and flamebait and throw temper tantrums. Valid points only please.

From ALL the people I have talked to in game ONE PERSON liked the new Gi's, just have both models, or add a new stocking type as was suggested. Then people can wear the "Pants" with their miniskirts to cover themselves up.

Sorry if I sounded like I was going off half-cocked earier, but I'll admit, the gi's were a bit of a flashpoint for me when it comes to clothing styles.

Despite the objection of your peers, you should feel free to voice your opinions on things.  We may not care but I'm sure the "powers that be" do care.

It doesn't look like that thought, a half joke about getting pants on them and *whoosh* done and ready for patch.  No indication he was truly serious about doing it seeing as he made a pink Gi for the occasion aswell as a new Tattoo, it could have been added to the thread with the other stuff planned for Update 60, see what everyone else thought.

I am not saying Rarebit is doing a bad job, but he isn't a god and he makes mistakes and I think it is a mistake to not give the part of the community that actually liked the Gi as it was a chance to say why it shouldn't be changed.

I like the Legging idea, that way if they were ever to release the MA Gi, people could still use their normal MA pants and then they can put on the Gi Pant/Leggings if they wish.  It also leaves the colour matching search for normal Gis.

Why not have those pants as a Legging model (As has been suggested) then you can even accessorise them with all the miniskirts you wear so you can even maintain your dignity when PvPing in them.

This change to the model doesn't really affect me one way or another, but it seems arbitrary and unnecessary. Females already have the "tunic and pants" dress set, so we don't exactly need the Gi look to give us a martial-arts feel. Furthermore, I notice nothing was really done about the cleavage of the gi, so this really doesn't deskankify it, and frankly it wasn't the most revealing piece of clothing either. The shiny backless body suits and miniskirts seem worse.

If you want to make clothing changes, how about getting rid of some of those disgusting rocawear models?

Pylat's got the best suggestion I've seen in years. YES, the pants should be something to go in the leggings slot, not physically attached to the Gi.

How many of you actually have a female rsi?

You'll find those stats are very accurate ^_^

lol

i will like 2 remind everyone once again, this game is called "the matrix online" based on a trilogy that was rated r for violent content, sexual content and language. now having said that; we should not be talking about changing or getting rid of ANYTHING!

the game is supposed to be sexy

the game is supposed to be gothic

the game is supposed to be cyberpunk

if anything, we need more sexier clothing, more gothic situations, and more more more cyber punk in this game.

watch the matrix movies, watch the animatrix short films, read the 2 graphic novels and ask urself; if there is anything, anything at all that u didnt like about any of it. then i ask u; why are u in this game?

im becoming annoyed with people who think the gi was silly, too revealing or whatever. it is in the films as it was depicted in the game

it should be changed back asap, if u dont like it, get over it.

flame me lol; whatev!

what a silly notion?

i started this post so that people can respond to a situation that doesnt make much sense to me. i have seen that a lot of people agree with me and soo what is a point that ur trying to make?

ahhhh

i see

well i will ignore u now because u will probably keep posting something without saying anything at all

maybe attack me with words now?

or suddenly create a dialogue that makes sense?

too late, u have had ur time, the future is our time now : P

flame me lol; whatev!

what a silly notion?

i started this post so that people can respond to a situation that doesnt make much sense to me. i have seen that a lot of people agree with me and soo what is a point that ur trying to make?

ahhhh

i see

well i will ignore u now because u will probably keep posting something without saying anything at all

maybe attack me with words now?

or suddenly create a dialogue that makes sense?

too late, u have had ur time, the future is our time now : P

Pylat's got the best suggestion I've seen in years. YES, the pants should be something to go in the leggings slot, not physically attached to the Gi.

Iviera wrote:

Pylat's got the best suggestion I've seen in years. YES, the pants should be something to go in the leggings slot, not physically attached to the Gi.

Well it wasn't actually my idea, so I take no credit for coming up with it originally. But I certainly think it is the best solution that will appease all people involved.

How many of you actually have a female rsi?

No offense, but if you want to pull that excuse out I'm going to complain that men are overlooked cause we only have 7 clothing slots and can't wear boxers despite there being constant requests for them.

Well I've never seen it suggested before so.... no.

I've already posted (But not my idea, but it's the best one I have seen) a solution to this that seems to be fair for all parties involved. Instead of dismissing people quite rudely how about you explain why that idea shouldn't be implemented?

Perhaps that is the main problem people have. A joking suggestion was implemented despite most players not liking it. Why fix something that ain't broke?

Pylat wrote:

No offense, but if you want to pull that excuse out I'm going to complain that men are overlooked cause we only have 7 clothing slots and can't wear boxers despite there being constant requests for them.

I agree with you, so.... yeah.  Go ahead.

And if  you'd read, I'm pulling the Uterus Card in FAVOR of the old gi, because I own a gi that short.  When fighting, I wear workout shorts under it (they're a lot like biking shots, or sliding shorts)  Also, I know this will blow your minds, but panties and a bikini cover the same area (I KNOW AMIRITE WOW!).  Fear of being seen in your underwear is a bizarre societal construct, seeing as we walk on the beach all the time in even less.

That leggings idea sounds like it would work well, problem is the limited space on the database

If the Female Gi gets the pants removed then I call for the Male Gi to have it's pants removed, fair is fair.

Vinia wrote:

That leggings idea sounds like it would work well, problem is the limited space on the database

Not really a valid point considering we just added +300 weapons to the game. The space isn't really an issue.

watch the matrix movies, watch the animatrix short films, read the 2 graphic novels and ask urself; if there is anything, anything at all that u didnt like about any of it. then i ask u; why are u in this game?

There are a lot of things I don't like about the source material. If you're seriously looking for an answer to that question, I think ninety percent of the people here will say the same thing - we love the game for the game. MxO is not the same as the movies or anything else in the setting, but it has its own charm and appeal.

The fact that changing the Gi is making the game less sexy and less "Matrixy", while true, is not much of an argument. However, making an item less appealing to a large part of the player base with no apparent reason is. And that's what we should really be focusing on.

Vinia wrote:

If the Female Gi gets the pants removed then I call for the Male Gi to have it's pants removed, fair is fair.

So why haven't males got our boxers yet? You can keep your pants but lose leggings (Fair's fair, you have an extra clothing slot).

Or we can get our boxers (Fair's fair, we have one less clothing slot).

I'd happily lose the pants off the Male Gi if it meant I could wear boxers. Tiger Masters Gi with Heart patterned boxers would be the pwn.

Having level 50 guns benefits all players using guns of which only mostly lvl 45 guns were available thus (I guess) were losing out on the base damage that the other tree's had, therefore not a waste of database space. Duplicating clothing just because some people dislike the looks is a waste imo.

The fact that changing the Gi is making the game less sexy and less "Matrixy", while true, is not much of an argument. However, making an item less appealing to a large part of the player base with no apparent reason is. And that's what we should really be focusing on.

Vinia wrote:

Having level 50 guns benefits all players using guns of which only mostly lvl 45 guns were available thus (I guess) were losing out on the base damage that the other tree's had, therefore not a waste of database space. Duplicating clothing just because some people dislike the looks is a waste imo.

If it results in pleasing all the players and increasing the overall happiness of the player base then I think it is most certainly worth it.

It's the little things that people appreciate the most.

Iviera wrote:

The fact that changing the Gi is making the game less sexy and less "Matrixy", while true, is not much of an argument. However, making an item less appealing to a large part of the player base with no apparent reason is. And that's what we should really be focusing on.

Actually I'd like to know where a piece of clothing like the old Gi was worn inside the simulation and not a training construct with one other person in it who was being flirted with?

Leather, rubber, shades, pvc are all 'matrixy' items like Rocawear etc... aren't but they are still in the game. I don't see how having pants on a Gi, as Gi's do, makes it 'less Matrixy'.

Based on the argument that (even though it was a private training construct) the pantsless Gi was seen in Matrix source material and the new "with-pants" Gi was not.

But, again, the Matrixiness or lackthereof really isn't the greater issue.

Vinia wrote:

Actually I'd like to know where a piece of clothing like the old Gi was worn inside the simulation and not a training construct with one other person in it who was being flirted with?

Leather, rubber, shades, pvc are all 'matrixy' items like Rocawear etc... aren't but they are still in the game. I don't see how having pants on a Gi, as Gi's do, makes it 'less Matrixy'.

Based on the argument that (even though it was a private training construct) the pantsless Gi was seen in Matrix source material and the new "with-pants" Gi was not.

But, again, the Matrixiness or lackthereof really isn't the greater issue.

MxO is not the same as the movies or anything else in the setting, but it has its own charm and appeal.

Iviera wrote:

The fact that changing the Gi is making the game less sexy and less "Matrixy", while true, is not much of an argument. However, making an item less appealing to a large part of the player base with no apparent reason is. And that's what we should really be focusing on.

Actually I'd like to know where a piece of clothing like the old Gi was worn inside the simulation and not a training construct with one other person in it who was being flirted with?

Leather, rubber, shades, pvc are all 'matrixy' items like Rocawear etc... aren't but they are still in the game. I don't see how having pants on a Gi, as Gi's do, makes it 'less Matrixy'.

I don't see when people wore gi at all outside the dojo in any of the movies etc. Gi's are not suppsoed to be used to go out and have fun, they are for fighting and womens gi's didn't have pants since they are more comfortable for fighting like that. Then again in todays dojos women have pants on their gis so I dunno...

Women's Gi's may not have had pants in the past but they, in all likelihood, would have been longer and the woman would have worn something underneath.

And if  you'd read, I'm pulling the Uterus Card in FAVOR of the old gi, because I own a gi that short.  When fighting, I wear workout shorts under it (they're a lot like biking shots, or sliding shorts)  Also, I know this will blow your minds, but panties and a bikini cover the same area (I KNOW AMIRITE WOW!).  Fear of being seen in your underwear is a bizarre societal construct, seeing as we walk on the beach all the time in even less.

And to add on the dignity card, Ashencourte Leggings (green miniskirt) has Melee buffs encouragingyou to go out and hit Side Kicks with, so current logic dictates that pants should be added to the miniskirt too.