[9.3.5] "He wouldn't just kill her like that" - Vector - 4/2/08

nubious81 wrote:

MxO_Neopill wrote:

That just all went down a little to easy. I am finding it nearly impossible to believe she is actually gone. Perhaps she has found a way to be untracable in the system, or has temporarily uploaded herself into an implanted human interface.

Nonetheless, I highly doubt shes gone.

agreed my theory like ive said before on this situation those 2 disks i belive are the keys the only thing is i wonder how long before the cyphs and epn can both agree to see what these disks can do together.

I know that the "code of The One" theory (or some connection to Neo) is currently gaining support, but I thought I would come back to these earlier points.

It's well established that the power of The Oracle lies in her eyes: there being two of them, obviously. There are also two disks recently handed out by The Oracle, as others have mentioned. Coincidence?

o: you may be on to something there....perhaps why she didnt know or couldnt see the impending death...she knew in that giving it away...she was eventually going to get cought out.

meh i dont even wanty to ponder these thoughts :/

Nah she isn't gone, I have yet to take her eyes from her...

(and ya, props to the 2 lowbie zions that were there, their honest ignorance played very well in this dialogue)

If that's true then why is he still with us?  There are three Cryptos.

1.  The  Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation
2.  The over-written machine controlled Cryptos
3.  A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos

MetaLogic wrote:

If that's true then why is he still with us?  There are three Cryptos.

1.  The  Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation
2.  The over-written machine controlled Cryptos
3.  A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos

((Actually there are 4.

4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.

Oh wait, that'd be the original storyline, my bad.))

He says he's lived this way for centuries, meaning he is one of the very first exiles, that has somehow avoided the Matrix being rebooted. A potential mixed with a machine file perhaps?

Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?

Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?

GoDGiVeR wrote:

MetaLogic wrote:

If that's true then why is he still with us?  There are three Cryptos.

1.  The  Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation
2.  The over-written machine controlled Cryptos
3.  A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos

((Actually there are 4.

4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.

Oh wait, that'd be the original storyline, my bad.))

((I wish that did happen, that would leave Veil in control of the Cypherites with no one to hold her back, that would've been awesome!))

Panderai wrote:

Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?

That's the mystery of it. But yes "freeborn" does mean born outside of the Matrix.

Could he be in control of someone that is inside the Matrix? Or perhaps this whole thing was a lie and he was a machine all along, and he wouldn't go back to the source?Or perhaps you are interpereting his words wrong. "I've been like this for centuries" Perhaps he avoided was a machine programme that slipped through the Architehts fingers, much like Smith did.

We don't have any proof that he is freeborn.

We have as much proof of him being freeborn as we have of anything else. Agent Gray said he was freeborn, so we just have to take that as read for now. And it fits perfectly with (( Mystery Man (men?) in the cinematics and )) the mysterious independent human colony mentioned in Hypatia's files.

Or he was reinserted back into the Matrix as an Agent for the Machines, or some sort of programme, that had the feelings of a human, yet the powers of a Machine programme, and he broke free of the control not so long ago, and now is looking for some sort of programme that will "free his mind"?