Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

192 posts · 2008-04-02 15:49:25 to 2008-05-15 18:52:48

#36300436425 04/03/2008 13:51:32 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Zudrag wrote:
Rarebit wrote:
Zudrag wrote:

Also, I was very surprised to see the Smith Virions still in game. And overjoyed.
They and the Virologists are supposed to be gone. There was some server-side fiddling-around that apparently didn't happen when the update went Live. They'll probably be removed during an overnight server restart sometime pretty soon.

Nooooooooo, don't take them, I love them. SMILEY
Do the Virologists still offer working mission tickets in case we wanna get some last minute Anniversary farming in tonight?
#36300436432 04/03/2008 14:04:29 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
The_Big_V wrote:
Zudrag wrote:
Rarebit wrote:
Zudrag wrote:

Also, I was very surprised to see the Smith Virions still in game. And overjoyed.
They and the Virologists are supposed to be gone. There was some server-side fiddling-around that apparently didn't happen when the update went Live. They'll probably be removed during an overnight server restart sometime pretty soon.

Nooooooooo, don't take them, I love them. SMILEY" />
Do the Virologists still offer working mission tickets in case we wanna get some last minute Anniversary farming in tonight?
Nope. Collectors are gone too.
#36300436433 04/03/2008 14:05:24 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Rarebit wrote:
Ooh the load from the new interiors or something is causing the servers to split Datamine into two /who areas in some cases.


I noticed, it's like a radius for the /who. I can't see people at the opposite corner in /who in data mine.
#36300436440 04/03/2008 14:13:40 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
I want to know more about SSR and Doc Martin plz.
#36300436455 04/03/2008 14:48:00 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

*sniffs*
Do I smell Org Abils?  SMILEY

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#36300436459 04/03/2008 14:57:20 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
=O
#36300436461 04/03/2008 14:58:22 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:

*sniffs*
Do I smell Org Abils?  SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />


Hmmm, interesting!

What's more interesting is the size of your bank balance!

Care to share the taste?!

#36300436462 04/03/2008 14:59:05 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
o.o!
#36300436468 04/03/2008 15:07:00 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008







#36300436470 04/03/2008 15:07:35 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Hmmm... how to loadlo...
#36300436471 04/03/2008 15:08:21 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

My guess is they were testing them to release them in the furture, but accidently slipped them through this patch like Zen Master.  But because they are just a blank white dquare I am too scared to load them and see what happens....

And no, my info ^^

#36300436475 04/03/2008 15:10:59 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
I sense inflation in the Awakened frag category...
#36300436476 04/03/2008 15:11:27 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:

My guess is they were testing them to release them in the furture, but accidently slipped them through this patch like Zen Master.  But because they are just a blank white dquare I am too scared to load them and see what happens....

And no, my info ^^

Too scared? Thats like the first thing I did! O_O
#36300436480 04/03/2008 15:12:51 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:

My guess is they were testing them to release them in the furture

Nope.

but accidently slipped them through this patch like Zen Master.

Apparently.

#36300436481 04/03/2008 15:12:57 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:

And no, my info ^^


Don't ask, don't get...

Ask, don't get!

No worries, I'll just shun you in game and go /mood regal whenever I see you! SMILEY

#36300436483 04/03/2008 15:13:19 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Null
#36300436485 04/03/2008 15:13:58 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Gerik wrote:
Tenshi wrote:
I sense inflation in the Awakened frag category...
Doesn't need any frags, just bits.
And awakened frags.
#36300436487 04/03/2008 15:14:45 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

I'm sure this is something we are going to see at some point... and that is really really exciting.

#36300436488 04/03/2008 15:14:55 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
ThePigeonKing wrote:
Gerik wrote:
Tenshi wrote:
I sense inflation in the Awakened frag category...
Doesn't need any frags, just bits.
And awakened frags.
Yeah, I posted after he showed us the other ones. lol So ignore that post!
#36300436491 04/03/2008 15:16:47 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

Need to start rep grinding pretty soon!

Work work work...

(Rep is @100 for all 3 of my chars, but it needs to be higher!)

#36300436492 04/03/2008 15:17:45 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
By the way, Rarebit, looks like people are loading these through /loadlo. When should we expect a rollback or a hotfix?
#36300436494 04/03/2008 15:19:23 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
ThePigeonKing wrote:
By the way, Rarebit, looks like people are loading these through /loadlo. When should we expect a rollback or a hotfix?

He mentioned a restart to remove the last of the smith stuff over night so mabey then?  If they rollback I may have to farm the Mobius and HJBeta again >_<
#36300436497 04/03/2008 15:26:28 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Rarebit wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:

My guess is they were testing them to release them in the furture

Nope.

but accidently slipped them through this patch like Zen Master.

Apparently.

Ok, point two I can live with... accidentally slipped through, we're not meant to see/have them yet.
Point one is a bit more worrying... Either they aren't testing them to be released which means we're not likely to see them at all like Zen Master or (and this is the optimist speaking) They're not testing them (not now, they've already tested them) but will be released in the future...

Grrr.... Rarebit and his vague answers... SMILEY
#36300436499 04/03/2008 15:30:28 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Vinia wrote:
Grrr.... Rarebit and his vague answers... SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

He's getting better, at least he's not dangling carrots infront of us, or making us jump through hoops just to get a vague answer anymore!

#36300436508 04/03/2008 15:40:41 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Nah, we won't be seeing these. They look a lot like HCFrog's concept for org ability trees, so work on them almost undoubtedly ceased when he left. And this is something Rarebit won't be able to do by himself: it's one thing to move from mission design to level design, it's quite another matter learning to program. SMILEY

Although Dracomet has been very quiet for the past few months. What on Earth is he working on?
#36300436514 04/03/2008 15:48:06 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Procurator wrote:
Nah, we won't be seeing these. They look a lot like HCFrog's concept for org ability trees, so work on them almost undoubtedly ceased when he left. And this is something Rarebit won't be able to do by himself: it's one thing to move from mission design to level design, it's quite another matter learning to program. SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Although Dracomet has been very quiet for the past few months. What on Earth is he working on?

They seem to be working though, I only had a quick look at the buff abils and they worked fine, I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
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#36300436517 04/03/2008 15:49:32 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
They what?

*Jacks back in.*
#36300436523 04/03/2008 15:52:12 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Well I'm not sure if /bug reports still work, but I sent in a /bug report about it and how to load them. The org abilities do work apparently, from what I've seen.
#36300436524 04/03/2008 15:55:25 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

All we really need is some logos and a place on the ability tree and away we go SMILEY

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#36300436525 04/03/2008 15:55:51 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
That and the rep requirments seem to not work.
#36300436532 04/03/2008 16:04:37 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
TheTaxidermist wrote:
That and the rep requirments seem to not work.
Yeah, I have all three org interfaces stacked atm >.> 15% acc boost ftw!
#36300436533 04/03/2008 16:05:11 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
HALP, EVERYONE HAS RABIES AND IS BITING ME FOR 1K DAMAGE AAUUGGHH
#36300436534 04/03/2008 16:07:08 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:
I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because we are horrible people.

#36300436536 04/03/2008 16:07:59 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

The timed %Bonus buffs would have to be changed to direct buffs as... well that timed bit just encourages stacking.

Rarebit wrote:

SolidRevolver wrote:
I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because we are horrible people.


SMILEY

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#36300436537 04/03/2008 16:08:22 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Rarebit wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:
I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because we are horrible people.

Nah, you just like to tease us...
#36300436538 04/03/2008 16:09:43 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008

Ya they work

Oh man, dont remove them though, this is much better then any other update in a LONG time - they already work  - KEEP THEM IN!!!

(Thanks to whatever programmer/coder sneaked  this in intentionally, you rock!)



#36300436540 04/03/2008 16:14:39 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Hmm. I expect a rollback tonight. Oh well.
#36300436541 04/03/2008 16:16:21 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
SolidRevolver wrote:
They seem to be working though, I only had a quick look at the buff abils and they worked fine, I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because I don't want to get area-stunned and then have THEM be area stunned every other minute every time I go to fight a mech in Datamine, or get bit for 1k damage when fighting a Merv. These are kinda ridiculous.
#36300436543 04/03/2008 16:17:04 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Heh if only they worked with the reputation.

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#36300436545 04/03/2008 16:18:36 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
ThePigeonKing wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:
They seem to be working though, I only had a quick look at the buff abils and they worked fine, I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because I don't want to get area-stunned every time I go to fight a mech in Datamine, or get bit for 1k damage when fighting a Merv.

Obviously some tweaking is needed, and they need to cost Memory points to match the normal abils so the level 50 Abil would cost 5 Memory points which means your weakening your normal tree to add these abils in.
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#36300436548 04/03/2008 16:20:58 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
It's looking like they're just going to make them unloadable rather than roll everything back. So I don't suggest spending too much money on them.

#36300436549 04/03/2008 16:21:36 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
If they get the rep requirements working you won't need to worry about getting stunned all the time. There aren't many Machinists with maximum reputation.

No, not many. Mwuah-ahahahahahah! SMILEY

Anyway, yeah, they seem to sort of work. I can load the top three Machinist ones, but not the lower two. I do hope these end up working... Needing maximum repuation will stop some people org hopping, the fickle beggars.
#36300436550 04/03/2008 16:24:17 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Even if they work or look like they're working they still may need some work done on them with balancing and making sure that everything works properly (rep requirements etc...) plus they really need icons.

I'm hoping to see these in the near future, perhaps update 60, but Rarebit's comments still worry me. All I can hope for now is that these were HCFrogs babies that were almost done or were thought out completely and Dracomet is finishing them off. Then it's 9mmFu's turn to QA them then either Walrus's or Virrago's job to announce them...

Yay! Is that all the big red names? In one post! Fantastic!
#36300436553 04/03/2008 16:28:29 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Why do you keep posting them in red? SMILEY

Oh, and I was wrong about being unable to load two. They're loaded, but they're passive abilities which just buff. Only they don't appear in the buff bar like Glimmer of the Source.
#36300436558 04/03/2008 16:30:59 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
Procurator wrote:
Why do you keep posting them in red? SMILEY" />
Because I'd like it if these forums automatically did it, plus it catches the eye and i'm strange that way...

I don't come between you and your tree so leave my red Dev and CRM foibles alone you... SMILEY
#36300436567 04/03/2008 16:44:33 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
The Leo wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:
ThePigeonKing wrote:
SolidRevolver wrote:
They seem to be working though, I only had a quick look at the buff abils and they worked fine, I dont see why these cany be implemented in a Hotfix soon fully.
Because I don't want to get area-stunned every time I go to fight a mech in Datamine, or get bit for 1k damage when fighting a Merv.

Obviously some tweaking is needed, and they need to cost Memory points to match the normal abils so the level 50 Abil would cost 5 Memory points which means your weakening your normal tree to add these abils in.
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Yeah, that's right, because I can... do a ridiculous amount of damage using one move without the other person being stated...? And stun people without using an ability...? 

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#36300436571 04/03/2008 16:53:30 Re:Update 59 Discussion - April 03, 2008
LOL SORRY DISREGARD