Well, rumor has it that the Oracle was killed by Halborn about an hour ago.
The EPN who witnessed it aren't very forthcoming on Vector.
The EPN who witnessed it aren't very forthcoming on Vector.
Is the Oracle dead?
38 posts · 2008-04-02 13:52:02 to 2008-04-07 11:25:00
If it is true, saw it coming a mile away.
She'll be back, in one way or another. Weather via a new RSI shell, or maybe even via Sati [the disks that Veil/EPN have?].
Either way, it isn't as big a deal as it would seem at first glance.
She'll be back, in one way or another. Weather via a new RSI shell, or maybe even via Sati [the disks that Veil/EPN have?].
Either way, it isn't as big a deal as it would seem at first glance.
MxO-Insertion wrote:
Lies, Jest Lies.
Well, rumor has it that the Oracle was killed by Halborn about an hour ago.He said he forgot how it happened.
The EPN who witnessed it aren't very forthcoming on Vector.
Lies, Jest Lies.
MxO-Insertion wrote:
Oh Noess!!!! where will i get my cookies now?
Well, rumor has it that the Oracle was killed by Halborn about an hour ago.
The EPN who witnessed it aren't very forthcoming on Vector.
Oh Noess!!!! where will i get my cookies now?
WTS Cookies. Have 6-8 on each server.
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GF...
oh wait... YES WE ARE FREE FROM HER CONTROL!!!!
oh wait... YES WE ARE FREE FROM HER CONTROL!!!!
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
lolBackupGive it a few miniutes and she'll Respawn.
Screenshots, or it didn't happen.
- An MxO live event transcript website:
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
Othinn1 wrote:
Othinn wins.
Screenshots, or it didn't happen.
Gerik wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:odj wrote:Othinn wins.
Screenshots, or it didn't happen.
Rule 10.
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-Collbard- wrote:
wouldn't she have forseen it coming ?
What is rule 10?
Anyway, unless he somehow deleted her source code, I'm sure she has backups/can take a new shell. If not... O_O
wouldn't she have forseen it coming ?
There was only one Oracle, and that was Gloria Foster.
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A corpse still isnt enough proof...but here it is...
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odj wrote:
Ding, Vista hates The Matrix.
Neoteny wrote:That corpse looks weird.Guessing its Vista texture issues or something.
Ding, Vista hates The Matrix.
ManicV wrote:
Seraph isn't doing his job very well.Maybe there was something/someone more important?
Reeverbs wrote:
ManicV wrote:Sati?Seraph isn't doing his job very well.Maybe there was something/someone more important?
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ChloeAnn wrote:
Does this mean I get to babysit Sati now?
God help Sati if that's the case.
:p
GQubed wrote:
Neo may not have been able to broker a truce, Morpheus would've just been anopther guy, but we wouldn't all be in pods, they would still have been releasing people. I don't disagree she nudged them in the direction she wanted, but it's the original people in Zion at the beginning of each iteration who teach people the factors and awaken people.
Vinia wrote:No I don't, I talk in response to your suggestion.Did the Oracle extract the first redpill? Did she extract any redpill? Did she tell all the Zion extraction teams who would be the next Redpill? No.Would Neo have been able to broker the Truce that allowed most of us to be freed if not for the Oracles guidance... No. Would Morpheus had been just another guy from Zion without her guidance... yes. Without her guidance would we really be able to understand the intricate and unseen factors of the Matrix? You talk as tho she was only around for this iteration of the Matrix and are forgetting the sacrifice she herself made for peace.
All she did was 'guide' them as to what they may be or may do. Where would you be, either in Zion directionless lashing out in hate against the Machines, extracting those who show any signs of realisation or doubt or dead and replaced by the Machines in the normal cycle of Zion destruction...
A lot more people would have died without her I've no doubt, she did 'stumble' on the equation to maintain the Matrix after all... if she didn't we might not have existed in the first place.
Neo may not have been able to broker a truce, Morpheus would've just been anopther guy, but we wouldn't all be in pods, they would still have been releasing people. I don't disagree she nudged them in the direction she wanted, but it's the original people in Zion at the beginning of each iteration who teach people the factors and awaken people.
Yasamuu1 wrote:
ChloeAnn wrote:That's mean. Id be a good babysitterDoes this mean I get to babysit Sati now?
God help Sati if that's the case.:p
ManicV wrote:
Seraph isn't doing his job very well.The Oracle can hide anywhere in the Matrix. She probably has an unlimited amount of time and resources to get away from Carl and Hal; but she didn't. That itself is a neon sign pointing that the Oracle is only dead in Physicalcode-being.
Roukan wrote:
ManicV wrote:Seraph isn't doing his job very well.The Oracle can hide anywhere in the Matrix. She probably has an unlimited amount of time and resources to get away from Carl and Hal; but she didn't. That itself is a neon sign pointing that the Oracle is only dead in Physicalcode-being.
I was being sarcastic.
As Virrago pointed out, she most probably saw this coming. And she does have the ability to "cross a few wires" so to speak in order to avoid detection. But just as with her Smith assimilation, if she knew it was going to happen and did nothing to stop it, then there must be a reason for it.
I just realized. No choice = system crash as in previous matrix systems... so err how long will our matrix last then Ra-re-bi-to???
The Leo wrote:
I just realized. No choice = system crash as in previous matrix systems... so err how long will our matrix last then Ra-re-bi-to???The choice is still there, as long as Zion exists the choice will still be there. The Oracle was just the person who discovered that the choice was needed.
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MetaLogic wrote:
Apparently The Oracle is dead.Gah typo. =p
Oracle, you will be missed.
The Leo wrote:
phi wrote:Yes it did. It happens at the end of Revolutions, when the code is pulled from the ground, and Sati is freed from the Smith Virus.The Leo wrote:The matrix never rebooted.Vinia wrote:The OracleHow many times did the machines destroy zion will answer that...doesn'tdidn't give choice she merely understood why Humans needed it thus allowing the system to give Humankind a subconscious choice and for the system to stabilise. The first couple were failures because she had not found the reason why during those versions. She was only an intuitive program. Zion is not the source of choice either it was just a place where those who did not accept the choice subconsciously could live once freed and facilitate the cycle.
Also where is it said that Zion existed before the stable versions of the simulation? It was said that there was a man born inside the Matrix who learned how to shape it to his own ends, well if he was born and survived, like all those in the previous ones didn't because of lack of choice, then Zion would have been created during the first stable iteration or at the end of the first.
What actually happened:
- Machines defeat humanity
- Multiple failures at making the Simulation work
- The Oracle discovers that choice is needed
- First successful version of the Matrix
- First emergence of "The Anomaly"
- First destruction of Zion
- repeat "anomaly cycle" x5
- Neo becomes The One, fulfilling the prophecy and breaking the Anomaly cycle during it's sixth iteration
- Neo stops Smith and Matrix is rebooted (ignoring beta testing and launch reboot ... not considered canon)
- Current version of the Matrix is #7 (counting from the first emergence of the Anomaly)
I wouldn't see how, logically, Bluepills would die during a reboot.
In order for them to produce the electricity the Matrix needs to exist, there has to be neural activity, correct? The interaction with the simulation provides this activity, and produces more energy. During a reboot, there must be some type of system that suspends bluepill energy while the Matrix is rebooted (which apparently happens very quickly).
I don't see why new crops would have to be grown every time there's a reboot. If the prime program didn't return to the source, then the anomaly cycle is broken. The Smith Infection was so bad, I would imagine the system had to be rebooted.
But that raises the question: with the prime program gone, can we call this the seventh iteration, or the first of a new cycle?
In order for them to produce the electricity the Matrix needs to exist, there has to be neural activity, correct? The interaction with the simulation provides this activity, and produces more energy. During a reboot, there must be some type of system that suspends bluepill energy while the Matrix is rebooted (which apparently happens very quickly).
I don't see why new crops would have to be grown every time there's a reboot. If the prime program didn't return to the source, then the anomaly cycle is broken. The Smith Infection was so bad, I would imagine the system had to be rebooted.
But that raises the question: with the prime program gone, can we call this the seventh iteration, or the first of a new cycle?