New Construct

playdoh · 02/26/2008 04:10:49

Dripping-Cheese wrote:

I would suggest that the devs make a lot of the rarer, more expensive items singletons to try and stop people hoarding them.

*eyes dozen Sakura and Widows moor items in inventory* My precious! *throws fish head at Cheese*

HutchieJNR · 02/26/2008 04:11:17

After the machine event last night, I went into Datamine. I left about 5minutes ago. I entered with no more then 2mil on HutchieJNR. I left with 230mil. I can say that I love the new construct, I havn't pvp'd that much but i'm sure that that'll come along soon enough SMILEY

Nice work devs.

Dripping-Cheese · 02/26/2008 04:27:41

playdoh wrote:

Dripping-Cheese wrote:

I would suggest that the devs make a lot of the rarer, more expensive items singletons to try and stop people hoarding them.
*eyes dozen Sakura and Widows moor items in inventory* My precious! *throws fish head at Cheese*

Share the love ya filthy packrat! :p

TonyJaa · 02/26/2008 04:51:35

I want my hyper deflect....Thank you!

TonyJaa

SaintDaniel · 02/26/2008 05:01:28

yuenwoping wrote:

I want my hyper deflect....Thank you!

TonyJaa

Yeah what Tony said

Tytanya_MxO · 02/26/2008 06:55:37

Notario wrote:

Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.

This is inevitable to some degree, you print more money or make it easier to get and its value goes down proportionately inflation takes over etc.... fortunately they are unlikely to change the cost of abilities and levelling so there will be some damage limitation.....

Riac · 02/26/2008 07:26:05

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

Notario wrote:
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.

This is inevitable to some degree, you print more money or make it easier to get and its value goes down proportionately inflation takes over etc.... fortunately they are unlikely to change the cost of abilities and levelling so there will be some damage limitation.....

i agree with notario, the in game economy will change drastically now that info is so easily farmed. i believe that 100K drops or even 75K would be adequate.. as a lowbie looking at the market things will seem really expensive, since peoples prices will no doubt rise since they know that info can be farmed that easily.... only time will tell how this will effect the in game economy.

The_Bruceter · 02/26/2008 07:39:04

Riac wrote:

Tytanya_MxO wrote:
Notario wrote:
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.

This is inevitable to some degree, you print more money or make it easier to get and its value goes down proportionately inflation takes over etc.... fortunately they are unlikely to change the cost of abilities and levelling so there will be some damage limitation.....
i agree with notario, the in game economy will change drastically now that info is so easily farmed. i believe that 100K drops or even 75K would be adequate.. as a lowbie looking at the market things will seem really expensive, since peoples prices will no doubt rise since they know that info can be farmed that easily.... only time will tell how this will effect the in game economy.

Awell at least the lowbies will like people like me that put things on cheap he he

p.s. The people that put items up at rediculous prices just need to die money hungry bams

YourEraser · 02/26/2008 07:45:09

Riac wrote:

Tytanya_MxO wrote:
Notario wrote:
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.

This is inevitable to some degree, you print more money or make it easier to get and its value goes down proportionately inflation takes over etc.... fortunately they are unlikely to change the cost of abilities and levelling so there will be some damage limitation.....
i agree with notario, the in game economy will change drastically now that info is so easily farmed. i believe that 100K drops or even 75K would be adequate.. as a lowbie looking at the market things will seem really expensive, since peoples prices will no doubt rise since they know that info can be farmed that easily.... only time will tell how this will effect the in game economy.

I don't recall seeing a major price inflation during the ability buy back when millions and billions were made. Look at the market now. There's nothing on it. Yet you still have people putting up lvl 30 shoes for 10mil!??? The market should be auto cleared after 30 days and any remaining items that you haven't sold be returned to your email given the adequate amount of space we have now. Market inflation is only based upon those who place those items. Example: Who sold Data Extractors 2.0's for 5mil when data mining first came out?.. It didn't last long and prices dropped. Now theirs Extractor 3.0's for 5Mil up there, yes some noobs will buy them at that ridiculous price. There will always be those who craft and place Items on the market at the price the market gives them.

Tytanya_MxO · 02/26/2008 08:00:24

The difference with the ability buy back was that it occured when there was a significant demand for money to level the cr2 hypers etc and once levelled the other new content cr2 itself was consuming players time..... the first 25 mill really only saw you break even, and it was also finite in time - people made what they could to be comfortable or super rich based on a static economy (to that time) and it came to an end.

The open ended nature of this cash cow will be the most significant factor and the low levels the most likely to feel the change.....the grind, the poverty, the empty space...pity the poor newbie

YourEraser · 02/26/2008 08:48:17

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

The difference with the ability buy back was that it occured when there was a significant demand for money to level the cr2 hypers etc and once levelled the other new content cr2 itself was consuming players time..... the first 25 mill really only saw you break even, and it was also finite in time - people made what they could to be comfortable or super rich based on a static economy (to that time) and it came to an end.
The open ended nature of this cash cow will be the most significant factor and the low levels the most likely to feel the change.....the grind, the poverty, the empty space...pity the poor newbie

Then the newbie better have some friendly faction mates or get his booty tappin ;p

Riac · 02/26/2008 08:49:18

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

The difference with the ability buy back was that it occured when there was a significant demand for money to level the cr2 hypers etc and once levelled the other new content cr2 itself was consuming players time..... the first 25 mill really only saw you break even, and it was also finite in time - people made what they could to be comfortable or super rich based on a static economy (to that time) and it came to an end.
The open ended nature of this cash cow will be the most significant factor and the low levels the most likely to feel the change.....the grind, the poverty, the empty space...pity the poor newbie

Meaning that we separate rich from poor straight down the middle, with no in between. Making the game seem even less attractive to new players due to the large amounts of info they require to get items they may require to level. Yes they could farm the items them selfs but how many people actually knew what the archives were when leveling ? i know personally i had no idea/interest until i was level 35+

**EDIT**
On the other hand Lowbies Can get in there.. but lets face it they WILL be ganked, that can only be sorted in my opinion by giving the higher level a decrease in stats for a few minutes if they Gank a player 5 levels lower, making it a less attractive CQ.

Phluff · 02/26/2008 09:50:49

~ A Phavor Phrom Phluff ~

Any of you on Myspace... could you leave 'your thoughts on data mine' as comments on the MxOSpace Profile? SMILEY http://www.myspace.com/mxospace So new people can see what we're all saying. SMILEY I think that would be a big help.

/phormalcurtsey

YourEraser · 02/26/2008 10:03:39

It amazes me that people will and do complain about anything.

We ask for combat to be balanced, the devs give us CR2. Yet we complain

We ask for lvl 50 things do to, they give us PB. Yet we complain

We ask for more events, they give us LESIG. Yet we complain

We ask for hackers to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for MKT to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for more clothing, they give us commando gear. Yet we complain

We petition, plead, pray, press, requisition, and solicit the devs for new content. Something to entertain the masses. They work endlessly for our enjoyment. Rarebit and his crew of midnight toilers don't hesitate to respond to our pleas. Yet they put in hours of work for the sake of our enjoyment. Fulfilling our wants, desires and our greed for more entertainment. Three servers to fill with LET, deadlines to commit to, reports to fill, head of operations to report to. Crunching in time for this, and for that. Textures to be fixed, colors on clothing to be dealt with because, "I just don't look good in an all black suit and my shirt is a shade of gray. It's the only shirt I can wear because It's named "Black" and it's not!"

By all means post your opinion of how you think the economy will and may be effected. That is why you are paying for the station pass to play some other game(s), and not Mxo.

byond · 02/26/2008 11:34:52

YourEraser wrote:

It amazes me that people will and do complain about anything.

We ask for combat to be balanced, the devs give us CR2. Yet we complain

We ask for lvl 50 things do to, they give us PB. Yet we complain

We ask for more events, they give us LESIG. Yet we complain

We ask for hackers to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for MKT to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for more clothing, they give us commando gear. Yet we complain

We petition, plead, pray, press, requisition, and solicit the devs for new content. Something to entertain the masses. They work endlessly for our enjoyment. Rarebit and his crew of midnight toilers don't hesitate to respond to our pleas. Yet they put in hours of work for the sake of our enjoyment. Fulfilling our wants, desires and our greed for more entertainment. Three servers to fill with LET, deadlines to commit to, reports to fill, head of operations to report to. Crunching in time for this, and for that. Textures to be fixed, colors on clothing to be dealt with because, "I just don't look good in an all black suit and my shirt is a shade of gray. It's the only shirt I can wear because It's named "Black" and it's not!"

By all means post your opinion of how you think the economy will and may be effected. That is why you are paying for the station pass to play some other game(s), and not Mxo.

I must say OFTMFT!!!! I completely agree with you. So Big Kudos to SOE STAFF for making this patch happen. I am very pleased with the new area.

As for the info. Its not gonna last. I knew it wouldnt. So dont gripe. Just get in there get ur fill and enjoy the game.

GU1d0 · 02/26/2008 13:25:12

I dont pay the station pass I coudl care less about the other SOE games I like WoW Coh and MxO.

RoganClark · 02/26/2008 13:26:06

YourEraser wrote:

It amazes me that people will and do complain about anything.

We ask for combat to be balanced, the devs give us CR2. Yet we complain

We ask for lvl 50 things do to, they give us PB. Yet we complain

We ask for more events, they give us LESIG. Yet we complain

We ask for hackers to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for MKT to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for more clothing, they give us commando gear. Yet we complain

QFT right there

Cowboy14 · 02/26/2008 19:21:53

YourEraser wrote:

It amazes me that people will and do complain about anything.

We ask for combat to be balanced, the devs give us CR2. Yet we complain

We ask for lvl 50 things do to, they give us PB. Yet we complain

We ask for more events, they give us LESIG. Yet we complain

We ask for hackers to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for MKT to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for more clothing, they give us commando gear. Yet we complain

We petition, plead, pray, press, requisition, and solicit the devs for new content. Something to entertain the masses. They work endlessly for our enjoyment. Rarebit and his crew of midnight toilers don't hesitate to respond to our pleas. Yet they put in hours of work for the sake of our enjoyment. Fulfilling our wants, desires and our greed for more entertainment. Three servers to fill with LET, deadlines to commit to, reports to fill, head of operations to report to. Crunching in time for this, and for that. Textures to be fixed, colors on clothing to be dealt with because, "I just don't look good in an all black suit and my shirt is a shade of gray. It's the only shirt I can wear because It's named "Black" and it's not!"

By all means post your opinion of how you think the economy will and may be effected. That is why you are paying for the station pass to play some other game(s), and not Mxo.

I think everyone will agree with this post, I personally looked forward to the new construct and definatly am please with what we have gotten from it, and the fact that I can gank my own kind =) FFA FTW! People arnt angry about the content though, they just seem like they are displeased with it because as much as you change everything about the game it will not bring the community that it once had.

SaintDaniel · 02/27/2008 06:40:06

Cowboy14 wrote:

YourEraser wrote:
It amazes me that people will and do complain about anything.

We ask for combat to be balanced, the devs give us CR2. Yet we complain

We ask for lvl 50 things do to, they give us PB. Yet we complain

We ask for more events, they give us LESIG. Yet we complain

We ask for hackers to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for MKT to be toned down, Nerf'd. Yet we complain

We ask for more clothing, they give us commando gear. Yet we complain

We petition, plead, pray, press, requisition, and solicit the devs for new content. Something to entertain the masses. They work endlessly for our enjoyment. Rarebit and his crew of midnight toilers don't hesitate to respond to our pleas. Yet they put in hours of work for the sake of our enjoyment. Fulfilling our wants, desires and our greed for more entertainment. Three servers to fill with LET, deadlines to commit to, reports to fill, head of operations to report to. Crunching in time for this, and for that. Textures to be fixed, colors on clothing to be dealt with because, "I just don't look good in an all black suit and my shirt is a shade of gray. It's the only shirt I can wear because It's named "Black" and it's not!"

By all means post your opinion of how you think the economy will and may be effected. That is why you are paying for the station pass to play some other game(s), and not Mxo.
I think everyone will agree with this post, I personally looked forward to the new construct and definatly am please with what we have gotten from it, and the fact that I can gank my own kind =) FFA FTW! People arnt angry about the content though, they just seem like they are displeased with it because as much as you change everything about the game it will not bring the community that it once had.

Bingo

GU1d0 · 02/27/2008 11:12:03

The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......

DucKKeRR · 02/27/2008 11:25:13

GU1d0 wrote:

The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......

everyone ganks SMILEY

HutchieJNR · 02/27/2008 11:30:13

DucKKeRR wrote:

GU1d0 wrote:
The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......
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Yes i have to agree with him Gu1d0. Everyone does infact gank, But Not everyone logs their buffer bots in just so they can gank with buffs then deny they are buffed. psssst Silver and 3.5k health gives it away guys.

Cowboy14 · 02/27/2008 14:04:50

GU1d0 wrote:

The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......

Welcome to Vector.

GU1d0 · 02/27/2008 14:21:54

What I am saying is that its only Zion that have even tried to gank me I never notice fellow Machines or any Mervs doign any ganking at all. My other issue is that its ok to gank but the constant 8 v1 is annoying. Im tired of having four zion snipe me, one of them hack me, the other oen healing his teammates, and they are all in full LOs not even in the place to datamine.

SeanMCanney · 02/27/2008 16:42:17

That's cause your blind. And contruct LOOKS SICK! We'll see how long it lasts before it just gets old again.

Cowboy14 · 02/27/2008 17:22:03

GU1d0 wrote:

What I am saying is that its only Zion that have even tried to gank me I never notice fellow Machines or any Mervs doign any ganking at all. My other issue is that its ok to gank but the constant 8 v1 is annoying. Im tired of having four zion snipe me, one of them hack me, the other oen healing his teammates, and they are all in full LOs not even in the place to datamine.

Well what I am saying is that just because Zion are gankin you and its preventing you from doing something doesnt mean Zion have been in that position before, furreal just suck it up. As far as 8v1 goes well, its just easier to kill in groups and if you got a problem wit it just find a group to team up with to take em out.

YourEraser · 02/27/2008 17:58:43

GU1d0 wrote:

The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......

Or if your waiting in sneak at the Mero Archivist.

Edit: Also Zion does have a lot of fresh 50's out there wanting to prove them selves.

MXOMastatec · 02/27/2008 22:00:31

your right about that Jr, someone is tryin to rack up their Cqs using MKT while one data mines..... i guess tahts what the construct is about....

Mona · 02/28/2008 02:07:30

Gank or be Ganked in there, its everyman for themselves xD

Manatik · 02/28/2008 03:59:40

C'est la Vector!

Yasamuu · 02/28/2008 04:02:59

The construct is great, IMO. Lots of moneys and CQ's. Whats not to like? The fact that this is "phase 1" says a lot too. Most people are enjoying it, and there's 2 more phases to come so, hopefully we'll see some even more interesting stuff added in the coming months.

DucKKeRR · 02/28/2008 04:05:32

An area boss on this construct would be awesome...My god, lot of battles around...sounds really good ^_^/

HutchieJNR · 02/28/2008 04:32:27

Funny thing is a certain Mero faction who likes to run till their help arrives, then ofcourse theres the crap talk about how much you suck yada yada yada, but when you do actually get them 1v1 they either hp tb pill then roll, Or just run. Its quite funny actually. Oh well

Enjoyin this so far, Hope alot more is to come.

SaintDaniel · 02/28/2008 10:19:18

I don't understand your logic of font sizes hutch

nubious81 · 02/28/2008 14:49:49

ok ive gone into the new area twice today dunno if this is a new problem with the patch or what but i dont have my flag up and when i do /pvp i get

cannot change flag not a pvp server any one else geting this today? or before?

YourEraser · 02/28/2008 16:38:43

MXOMastatec wrote:

your right about that Jr, someone is tryin to rack up their Cqs using MKT while one data mines..... i guess tahts what the construct is about....

O.o who would tat be.. Dis?

YourEraser · 02/28/2008 16:40:36

nubious81 wrote:

ok ive gone into the new area twice today dunno if this is a new problem with the patch or what but i dont have my flag up and when i do /pvp i get cannot change flag not a pvp server any one else geting this today? or before?

SploitS!

Delicho · 02/28/2008 22:07:45

YourEraser wrote:

nubious81 wrote:
ok ive gone into the new area twice today dunno if this is a new problem with the patch or what but i dont have my flag up and when i do /pvp i get cannot change flag not a pvp server any one else geting this today? or before?

SploitS!

Even if your flag goes off (FFA zones have weird rules), you're still hostile to everyone. No worries there.

Cowboy14 wrote:

GU1d0 wrote:
The only problem I have is that Zion seems to be the main gankers, it is annoying to be fighting a mob that my node spawns, and thats the only time I ever see another red.......
Welcome to Vector.

Surprisingly enough, there's a LOT more of this on the other servers. Tons more.

playdoh · 02/29/2008 03:58:26

Delicho wrote:

Surprisingly enough, there's a LOT more of this on the other servers. Tons more.

That's not suprising me, bet theres tons of hostility built up... Come to us now carebears, only Vector can satisfy the hunger

Brommerz77 · 03/01/2008 09:25:06

Haha, Playdoh ftw, he speaks truth. Vector ftw.

GU1d0 · 03/02/2008 06:20:28

I retract my original statement since the last few days all I have been having is 2 mervs snipe me, 2 stagger throw throw, and another hacker root me just incase, all while im tapping my nodes in the corner. The other day it was 8 mervs. At least another org grew some balls, but it is annoying that they are there simply to prowl on the miners with their full LOs.

BrazZz · 03/02/2008 07:33:00

## Broadcast depth
## Incoming Transmission...
## TobeGanked // Gank in Vector !
## RELAY Initialized

O_O oh i be ganked because i be flagged for PVP, ( OH NOOOOOOOO)

Oh all peoples hanging now in DM , ( WHY ???????? )

MARA C is Death .. o_O ( THERE IS YOUR WHY ! )

but Why the reds kill me ?
why im so a easy target ?

*suprise suprise* Caution Ironic

## End Transmission...

bah / emo

i cant believe that a 50 insult that he be ganked this is the game !

sometimes u gank sometimes u be ganked

AMEN !

YourEraser · 03/02/2008 09:20:13

So back on subject. Besides everyone being FFA, what in your opinion constitutes not ganking some one of your own org, or faction? Or not even ganking at all, but leaving the ones that have a spawn farm that spawn.
    Is it the mutual respect that the said player has or is it your endowed love you have for the game. (i said endowed)
    Would you go on a ganking spree on some one that has helped you in the past? Or would you adhere to the honor and respect that person for the time spent into helping your noob azz?
    Does:
Time playing the game=respect?
    The proper language=respect?
    CQ count=respect?
    Org association=respect?
    Faction association=respect?

Will being respected in this game be in your favor?

I understand and am in full awareness both with reality and mother nature, that this is a pvp server. (when its gloomy, Zion is going to have a bad day. When it's sunny the cavemen come to play!)

darkhaze · 03/02/2008 18:50:14

if i dont like you ill gank you on site...end of discussion. ( unless im using my doc build...then ill call somebody to come gank you and heal them even if they dont need it just to erk ur jerkins)

if i dont like, or dislike you. then ill gank you or not depending on my mood.

if i like you or your a merv then ill send you a /tell telling you that im gonna gank you so that you can be prepared for certain death.

HutchieJNR · 03/02/2008 21:11:04

YourEraser wrote:

Will being respected in this game be in your favor?

Why be respected in game? Why not just cause hell and be hated for it.