New Construct

145 posts · 2008-02-17 16:52:58 to 2008-03-02 21:11:04

#36300412291 02/22/2008 08:55:26 Re:New Construct
Brommerz77 wrote:
Leaves Vector still as the best server of course SMILEY" />

And i can see the rest of you point, and you're right. But for me, i've been here so long, through all the crappy patches and bugs, any time we get anything is nice, and considering the man power SOE give Mxo, we should be happy with getting any updates... :/
I'm just glad your here... nuff said.
#36300412484 02/22/2008 16:06:11 Re:New Construct
Tytanya, why does all new content need to be related to the story? They are trying to make things that interest normal MMO players, and obviously the storyline stuff is not enough to cut it, evidenced by subscription numbers in the past. FFA is a popular thing in many MMO's. The whole problem with MxO after its launch was the fact that nearly all content was story based through live events, and even though people loved them, there weren't many people that came to play MxO. It's lack of static content unrelated to a current story within the game is what caused it to fail so fast early on. I know a lot of people don't like FFA, some even don't like PVP, but the devs have to create things that most people will like and will perhaps bring in new people.
#36300412617 02/22/2008 18:38:25 Re:New Construct

why does all new content need to be related to the story?

Relating to the story generates interest. People who like the Matrix would maybe like a Matrix game that stuck to a game with its characteristics and perspectives.

The thing about FFA is that it is most times** Not story driven. the usual pvp systems I have seen are team based of some kind (WoW has good vs evil-Alliance vs horde). City of Heroes and Villians- The entire system of missions is based on the reciprocals of each other- Rescue them vs Capture- its the same concept but using different words. Even Everquests PvP servers. They had quite a few team pvp servers. one server was based on diety. 3 Teams- Good, Nuertal, and Evil. and another server had "Humans vs Elves vs Ogres"

It's all the same perspective of pvp- A team to fight for. And this game's pvp has for the most part been completely driven by story. How many times do i hear ppl say "Jack- the Truce is over" and what not. Most of the people here desire some reason to pvp. Most have kept to the story of the returning war and patted themselves on the back for it.

Essentially these constructs are an escapism of the story. They have little reflection to the lore of the game. It is a state of "limbo" from everyone else. And If i may predict the people who play on our server- Whatever happens in this zone will stay in this zone. People here dont have the balls to enforce consequences on other people. You guys can kill each other all you want- but that doesnt "beat a player" in my book.

Having content that follows a progressive flow of the universe sounds like a good idea. But throwing down a zone without a "purpose" isnt that great. If its just Data Mining and FFA PvP. Knowing the people here, there better be some good spawns from this Mining area cuz most people here arent that versatile in making new friends.

there weren't many people that came to play MxO.

Thats cuz they found out there was no high end. Same thing happened with Vanguard.

create things that most people will like and will perhaps bring in new people

In all honesty- building a lvl 1-50 Construct FFA zone is not how you attract new players. It's rather an area for the high lvls. If you see a tagged lvl 2 here- the same thing is would happen outside the zone. Nothing of that nature changes.

#36300412735 02/22/2008 20:48:50 Re:New Construct
I agree with a lot of stuff you said there, Jack. I actually ended up saying more than I meant to in the last post. Yeah, it's not low-level stuff, but some people might think its a cool thing to do at level 50 if they can do FFA. Even a level 30 could be told if they are short on $info to get protection and try to do some quick mining. Most people I know drop MxO not because of low endgame stuff, but because the middle levels have nothing to do. Of course, this construct in no way solves that particular problem, but the current developmental stuff is trying to make some sort of static content/activity.

Ugh...long post again...anyway, as far as the story goes...Clearly, not that many MMO players are that interested in the "continuing story" of the Matrix. So they have to try to get the game to appeal to mainstream MMO players. As Tytanya would probably say, the current story can't always be said to truly follow the Matrix trilogy anyway.
#36300413618 02/24/2008 13:13:22 Re:New Construct
I will destroy you all
You all must die.
You will Cry
and I will laugh
Boohoo
see that is you crying and I am laughing
Do you not know who I am?
I will Destroy.
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#36300413698 02/24/2008 16:28:42 Re:New Construct
Cowboy14 wrote:
I will destroy you all
You all must die.
You will Cry
and I will laugh
Boohoo
see that is you crying and I am laughing
Do you not know who I am?
I will Destroy.

er yer who are you ??? oh wait i dont care... SMILEY
Leader Of Faction 'Project Mayhem'
Capt. Of The Derigible

We are one we are strong the more you hold us down the more we push on...
#36300413718 02/24/2008 17:51:20 Re:New Construct
Grave wrote:
Cowboy14 wrote:
I will destroy you all
You all must die.
You will Cry
and I will laugh
Boohoo
see that is you crying and I am laughing
Do you not know who I am?
I will Destroy.

er yer who are you ??? oh wait i dont care... SMILEY
You do not care because I will destroy you.
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#36300413722 02/24/2008 18:19:11 Re:New Construct
Few More hours cant wait
#36300413887 02/25/2008 04:54:51 Re:New Construct
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#36300413891 02/25/2008 05:01:38 Re:New Construct
Aye im sat waiting, but im still not happy about the hyper deflect thing SMILEY
#36300413902 02/25/2008 05:13:16 Re:New Construct
Well if the hyper thing makes pvp suck and makes the zergs stronger, then we can go complain about it some more xD

The FFA thing is going to be fun with that, which hyper are you gonna chose, think i'll go with deflect since loads of people changed to hacker.
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#36300413909 02/25/2008 05:21:58 Re:New Construct
Simone ftw SMILEY

And aye, either Knifer, guns or Hacker def, no point running MA defense unless you're interlocked. So probably guns - tapping, or deflect - pvp


#36300413916 02/25/2008 05:29:43 Re:New Construct
Hrmm.. difficult choice.  Unless.. I do what a certain faction does.. Then I'll still be "god" leik!  Think I'll stay Gunz=Zion / Hacker=Mero / Hacker=Mech
As for Hyper... bleh... That will have to wait.. see how many people bandwagon to Hacker...



Edit: Brom or Grave I need an invite to Z faction!
#36300413919 02/25/2008 05:33:33 Re:New Construct
lol i forget to switch them most of the time so ill just wait and see which one i leave on.
Leader Of Faction 'Project Mayhem'
Capt. Of The Derigible

We are one we are strong the more you hold us down the more we push on...
#36300413920 02/25/2008 05:34:13 Re:New Construct
Grave wrote:
lol i forget to switch them most of the time so ill just wait and see which one i leave on.
Grave read my "Edit"
#36300413922 02/25/2008 05:35:52 Re:New Construct

Sweet man just send me a tell in game and ill sort you out

D/L patch now not long SMILEY

Leader Of Faction 'Project Mayhem'
Capt. Of The Derigible

We are one we are strong the more you hold us down the more we push on...
#36300413925 02/25/2008 05:40:22 Re:New Construct
ok so the other night as I was sleeping.  I had this dream that I was data tapping in the new construct.  And I was extracting 250mil ever time I tapped.  Is that to much to ask?
#36300413926 02/25/2008 05:40:53 Re:New Construct
Grave wrote:

Sweet man just send me a tell in game and ill sort you out

D/L patch now not long SMILEY


Open dam it! i got work in a bit SMILEY

GF, nice 1 v 1, all me son!
#36300413927 02/25/2008 05:40:58 Re:New Construct
Oh yeaha! You as machine FTW.
#36300413929 02/25/2008 05:42:10 Re:New Construct
Brommerz77 wrote:
Oh yeaha! You as machine FTW.
Not I!
#36300413930 02/25/2008 05:42:27 Re:New Construct
Edit: Oops double post
#36300413932 02/25/2008 05:43:37 Re:New Construct
Slad3 wrote:
Brommerz77 wrote:
Oh yeaha! You as machine FTW.
Not I!
And not this one either!
#36300413933 02/25/2008 05:44:06 Re:New Construct
YourEraser wrote:
Slad3 wrote:
Brommerz77 wrote:
Oh yeaha! You as machine FTW.
Not I!
And not this one either!
But a new one!
#36300413934 02/25/2008 05:44:14 Re:New Construct
YourEraser wrote:
ok so the other night as I was sleeping.  I had this dream that I was data tapping in the new construct.  And I was extracting 250mil ever time I tapped.  Is that to much to ask?
Lmao, that might lead to a bit of mxo inflation... Headgears now selling for 75 billion
#36300413935 02/25/2008 05:44:56 Re:New Construct
deviljonny wrote:
Grave wrote:

Sweet man just send me a tell in game and ill sort you out

D/L patch now not long SMILEY


Open dam it! i got work in a bit SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

lol got up at 2pm yesterday for work. got back at 1pm to day and not going to bed yet need my Mxo fix
Leader Of Faction 'Project Mayhem'
Capt. Of The Derigible

We are one we are strong the more you hold us down the more we push on...
#36300413939 02/25/2008 05:46:54 Re:New Construct
Grave wrote:
deviljonny wrote:
Grave wrote:

Sweet man just send me a tell in game and ill sort you out

D/L patch now not long SMILEY


Open dam it! i got work in a bit SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

lol got up at 2pm yesterday for work. got back at 1pm to day and not going to bed yet need my Mxo fix
Same here.. been up all night long waiting for this patch!.. hope it's worth it!
#36300413940 02/25/2008 05:48:19 Re:New Construct
OMGsh.. Brilliant IDEA.. instead of going to the construct to see it.. How bout just CAMPING Moriah Projects E!!!!  SMILEY
#36300413941 02/25/2008 05:48:22 Re:New Construct
MotorZ wrote:
Tytanya, why does all new content need to be related to the story? They are trying to make things that interest normal MMO players, and obviously the storyline stuff is not enough to cut it, evidenced by subscription numbers in the past. FFA is a popular thing in many MMO's. The whole problem with MxO after its launch was the fact that nearly all content was story based through live events, and even though people loved them, there weren't many people that came to play MxO. It's lack of static content unrelated to a current story within the game is what caused it to fail so fast early on. I know a lot of people don't like FFA, some even don't like PVP, but the devs have to create things that most people will like and will perhaps bring in new people.

Yeah Jack said in essence what I would say, what makes you come play the Matrix and not WoW is the simplest summary.

Its really a case of wanting the best for the content that is provided there are clear advantages in content that integrates with the environment and where those integrate with the story, the components of an MMO are like the pieces of a Jigsaw when they fit togther we get an impression of progress and therefore the ultimate reward seems that little bit better. Content can be static and isolated of course but if it goes that bit further to fit with the rp world then its appeal becomes broader, the number of players using it increase, the variety of the challenge therefore increases and the longevity and value of the reward also increase..... a game that uses every facet to reinforce and promote every other facet is firing on all cylinders. On the flipside create something that doesnt really fit or that presents a different set of rules that actually creates contradiction, undermines value and leaves the inevitable sense "this is just a game and can never be any more". If story is considerate of content and content considerate of story then the world we live in becomes more real, the threat more intense, the excitment and fun much greater for every piece of content and every event....

What concerns me most atm is that the design philosophy appears to be to consider physical content as completely seperate from story content and these two elements of the game are fragmenting and moving apart... There is a lack of anyone taking an overall view or of doing that last bit of knitting that makes sense of the bigger picture. The last bit of physical content that actually arose out of the current storyline and make any effect as a result was the Cyph and EPN tags, all other content has really been to consume time or to make a tiny addition to something we already pretty much had. Similarly the story has failed to be considerate of the content it has to live within - abadoning the truce etc, we cant experience the real, we cant really kill or be killed in the matrix, we are forced to work rest and play online yet the story has really taken us to a place where this is the least likely place to do so an example of exactly the same problem in reverse!

In terms of this new construct (leaving aside the fact that its pvp freedom presents a fairly significant pressure on rest of the world credibility), suppose its introduction was staged over a month or several months.... power requirements dictate the building of a new facitlity - a construction site goes in with a security force dropping some special reward (temporary content) - the construct goes up again with high security but with problems in the form of $info leaks really valuable to the orgs as well as individual players etc - machines act to secure area detaching security protocols and sealing it from all but mech operatives - other orgs undergo a number of assignments to find a way in.... evolving content creates events and events in turn create the devlopment of content...suddenly the world is comming alive, its dynamic and real - this is the link I would like to see forged with content credible and logical connections that players can actually see for themselves............... 

#36300413942 02/25/2008 05:50:14 Re:New Construct
YourEraser wrote:
OMGsh.. Brilliant IDEA.. instead of going to the construct to see it.. How bout just CAMPING Moriah Projects E!!!!  SMILEY

Good old days SMILEY but i dont think you can go to the new construct through the book store

GF, nice 1 v 1, all me son!
#36300413945 02/25/2008 05:52:47 Re:New Construct
deviljonny wrote:
YourEraser wrote:
OMGsh.. Brilliant IDEA.. instead of going to the construct to see it.. How bout just CAMPING Moriah Projects E!!!!  SMILEY

Good old days SMILEY" /> but i dont think you can go to the new construct through the book store
Ahh.. I think the patch notes stated through the Archivist? have to check on that...



Yup yer right... bleh!
#36300413948 02/25/2008 06:01:24 Re:New Construct
Like im in the matrix O.o In other owrds server's are up, someone come join meh lol
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#36300414107 02/25/2008 09:54:20 Re:New Construct
33mil in less than 1.5hrs.. not bad!
#36300414118 02/25/2008 10:03:18 Re:New Construct
YourEraser wrote:
33mil in less than 1.5hrs.. not bad!


Um, whoa. 

Must code Dataminer.

#36300414126 02/25/2008 10:08:56 Re:New Construct
Faster than farming Pb3, and significantly less effort... <3
#36300414138 02/25/2008 10:18:42 Re:New Construct
This games economy has gone to hell then. 40 Mil in about 2 hours?? I think this is getting to the level that we had during the ability buyback.
#36300414142 02/25/2008 10:23:46 Re:New Construct
No, the economy is pretty resilient. We've been through the buyback, PB3 allows maybe 20 mil an hour, people have duped their info through the database backup and got lucky when it was in email, or some people flat out dupe their info at server restarts. Others buy $info from gold farmers. There's a metric ****-ton of ways that people who want to get info without making it fairly can do so, and yet prices remain fairly constant. If anything, the downfall of the Marketplace has been that less and less people are putting things up, rather than any increase in money supply.
#36300414143 02/25/2008 10:23:51 Re:New Construct
Must also learn how to use data-miner.
#36300414187 02/25/2008 11:19:28 Re:New Construct
deviljonny wrote:
YourEraser wrote:
OMGsh.. Brilliant IDEA.. instead of going to the construct to see it.. How bout just CAMPING Moriah Projects E!!!!  SMILEY

Good old days SMILEY" /> but i dont think you can go to the new construct through the book store

Was EPiC.. PDS Failed many attempts to get back in.. SMILEY 
#36300414200 02/25/2008 11:33:04 Re:New Construct

What kind of XP do these new nodes give in Datamine??  For lower levels I mean.  Is it a big improvement just like the increased $i ?   Anybody know? SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Thanks!

#36300414205 02/25/2008 11:37:47 Re:New Construct
Phluff wrote:

What kind of XP do these new nodes give in Datamine??  For lower levels I mean.  Is it a big improvement just like the increased $i ?   Anybody know? SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />

Thanks!

couldn't tell you.. I get bush whacked to quick on my alt to even get a successful tap! SMILEY
#36300414208 02/25/2008 11:41:48 Re:New Construct
PhYI:  9mmfu just answered me on the other thread.  No XP increase... just the i$ boost.
#36300414244 02/25/2008 13:37:09 Re:New Construct
Phluff wrote:
PhYI:  9mmfu just answered me on the other thread.  No XP increase... just the i$ boost.
Thanks for the info Phluff, I was wanting to know that too SMILEY
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#36300414305 02/25/2008 15:16:13 Re:New Construct
yeah from this morning before i had to work and now ive made bout 5 mill
#36300414322 02/25/2008 15:48:52 Re:New Construct
Economy crash............ again SMILEY   how many time is going up this "info boost"?? I will stop when I have 999.999.999 info
#36300414349 02/25/2008 16:42:49 Re:New Construct
You'll crash out before that...
#36300414521 02/26/2008 00:41:55 New Construct
the info has not value now....
/tsktsk
#36300414522 02/26/2008 00:45:39 Re:New Construct
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?

#36300414523 02/26/2008 00:55:53 Re:New Construct
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
no comments...(forget the PdS tag and be  impartial)
#36300414552 02/26/2008 02:35:29 Re:New Construct
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.
#36300414558 02/26/2008 02:53:50 Re:New Construct
Notario wrote:
Dripping-Cheese wrote:
Levelling a new tree from nothing in less than an hour is not valuable?
Im only saying that the info value will be from now, devaluated. With this easy way to get a lot of info in few time. Prices of items will be a lot of expensive. Try to get a headgear, you will need a lot of time to get one compared with the info so everybody will prefer to buy one and not to loot, the prices will be higher. Thats why i say that the info value is now devaluated.


I think I'll agree to disagree with you on that one.  The marketplace has always been known for rediculous prices.

The market value will see major fluctuation, but it will even out eventually.  The only problem I forsee is that most items will now be within reach of those who don't have billions in their faction banks!

Things will become even rarer, they'll be on the market for 5 minutes before they're snapped up!

I would suggest that the devs make a lot of the rarer, more expensive items singletons to try and stop people hoarding them.