Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

138 posts · 2008-02-14 15:35:26 to 2008-10-05 12:58:09

#36300437506 04/05/2008 07:01:41 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

OK having come back from a break where my graphics card crashed i started to notice a major lag issue then ofcourse i remembered about this little gem. Glad to know they had found a fix i added the code and...no change.

I'm going to try a few changes remaking useropts etc changing the code around to see if i can fix it... but is there something im missing? put the code in lowered my shadows (after a quick word with BeachHead in game)...still no solution. SMILEY

#36300437564 04/05/2008 10:09:26 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Make sure its useropts.cfg and not useropts.cfg.txt
#36300437653 04/05/2008 14:36:12 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

i've been using the file itself for quite some time and its got a few settings already there i just added them in and ctrl+s'd it (:

well i cant check atm because my launcher has some sort of error... SMILEY

#36300451768 05/07/2008 09:12:01 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

Nice one on the fix devs! This was ruining my new player experience back in Nov last year. I just left my toon a few floors down in a warehouse cos I couldnt be arsed with it anymore. When I patched up, edited the useropts and logged in, i have hardly any issues indoor anymore. Except now I have a different problem. Can anyone help with my game freezing/hanging... seems to happen mostly when I'm clicking around my inventory or using vendors.

#36300451808 05/07/2008 11:44:49 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

It'd be worth the mention that did manage to fix it :s not sure how but it suddenly kicked in after a few days of sitting inactive :s The only major problem i can see or more importantly exploit is with players tags. its sometimes an advantage not that im complaining of the extra tracking system ^^

perhaps worth a look into and maybe an adjustment made? >.< of no importance really tho

#36300458424 05/22/2008 20:00:47 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
I'm kinda new to the whole useropts thing, and searching the forums has only brought up discussions saying to add so and so to it, but not how to actually initially make and use it properly. Could someone point me to the instructions for this file?
#36300458455 05/22/2008 23:09:17 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
refer to this post from 9mmfu http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300021159 , he gives instructions on how to create the useropts file using notepad.
#36300459024 05/24/2008 06:25:19 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Followed the directions, and yet, I still lag indoors.


I hate my luck.

Running a Nvidia 8600

wtb horrible video card so I can play SMILEY
#36300459034 05/24/2008 07:45:42 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
http://www.aurasystems.org/dump/useropts.cfg


Has JUST the lines needed for the fix. RClick -> Save As, etc etc
#36300459102 05/24/2008 12:46:14 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Deleted the file adn redid it a few times out of frustration.

Doesn't work completly perfect now, but dear lord it's playable. SMILEY
#36300459250 05/24/2008 23:47:18 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Lies wrote:
Deleted the file adn redid it a few times out of frustration.

Doesn't work completly perfect now, but dear lord it's playable. SMILEY

Remember it's only a 'work-around' it's not actually a fix.
A fix would include a new driver from nVidia, but alas, we're not a 'major community'.  Imagine that.


You'll notice it gets pretty bad again with other people in missions.
#36300459279 05/25/2008 04:33:52 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
I know it's only a fix =/

Stop trying to bring my mood down SMILEY
#36300459365 05/25/2008 11:57:42 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Haha don't worry mate, my moods been down since I bought a great graphics card that won't work on graphics it should have a breeze with -.-
#36300465836 06/09/2008 12:24:50 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

I got problems with my Nvidia Geforce 8x series!When i enter any building,game starts to work very slowly(((I cant do missions normaly(

What i need to do to remove this problem?

#36300465844 06/09/2008 12:34:52 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
0hot wrote:

I got problems with my Nvidia Geforce 8x series!When i enter any building,game starts to work very slowly(((I cant do missions normaly(

What i need to do to remove this problem?


http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300021159
#36300465852 06/09/2008 13:03:18 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

Thank you so much!Respect from mother land SMILEY

#36300466177 06/10/2008 11:46:39 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Sorry for my ignorance not to read through everything but will the workaround work for 9xxx series if anyone has tried?
#36300466765 06/12/2008 00:39:24 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

Hm this file useropts.cfg helped me 1 time( Now its now working and game works bad like it was(((

What i need to do...

#36300470895 06/25/2008 07:18:34 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

It would appear from some player reports that 175.19 may fix the current problem with the 8xxx series cards.

I will be doing a bit of testing to verify this today.

#36300470906 06/25/2008 08:03:31 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
9mmfu wrote:

It would appear from some player reports that 175.19 may fix the current problem with the 8xxx series cards.

I will be doing a bit of testing to verify this today.

The driver has seemed to help substantially.  However, I still have the useropts.cfg file that you asked us to create before.  Let us know if it is okay to remove it.

 
#36300470917 06/25/2008 08:42:17 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
personlll wrote:
9mmfu wrote:

It would appear from some player reports that 175.19 may fix the current problem with the 8xxx series cards.

I will be doing a bit of testing to verify this today.

The driver has seemed to help substantially.  However, I still have the useropts.cfg file that you asked us to create before.  Let us know if it is okay to remove it.

 

If you want to really test this on your system, simply put '##' in front of the 4 lines and test your performance. This will comment out the lines. You will need to start your client with these changes saved as this doesn't update dynamically.

So comment out the lines and restart/start your client to test the performance of your specific setup.

This morning testing looks promising.

#36300470962 06/25/2008 11:15:02 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Just downloading this now. I'll give it a test, I'm using an Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX.
#36300470965 06/25/2008 11:28:50 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
OH YEAHH!!!!

I approve of this patch!
#36300470968 06/25/2008 11:37:22 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
9mmfu wrote:

It would appear from some player reports that 175.19 may fix the current problem with the 8xxx series cards.

I will be doing a bit of testing to verify this today.


After applying it to my laptop's 8600M GT  (forced install (no biggie really) since dell changes hardware IDs), moving my useropts out of the MxO folder, and running around in some of the known lagging buildings, I have to agree this.

Massive improvement in the building east of Tabor W, and I saw...75% improvement in the two buildings west of the Tabor W hardline.

Also, the building at Stratford Campus (the place were Rare showed us when he was testing the modellighting), I don't know if I was limited by my cellular card at the time, but I was getting down to 15-20 fps, where running around in the lobby in circles was giving me less than that before.

They're on the right track.  The lag isn't crippling now....just a minor nuisance on my end.  I'll be able to provide more data Pre and Post FPS's on my 8800GT when I return home.
#36300475362 07/06/2008 19:34:18 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Whoever figured out the useropt.cfg thing is a genius. Even after updating my 8600GT driver, I still had very bad issues inside buildings. As soon as I created that file, however, it ran smoothly and still does!
#36300475373 07/06/2008 20:28:49 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Did you remove your old driver first and rebooted before installing the latest driver?
#36300475381 07/06/2008 21:16:38 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
So ... not having one of the affected cards it's hard for me to keep tabs on this.

I've had a look at the drivers and as far as I can tell, there seems to be 3 major changes:
- Occlusion checks have been changed for deprecated methods (presumably it was checking poorly and wasting a lot of GPU time)
- Texture Buffering/ smart fetch has changed significantly (could this be the cause of the indoor object shading issue?)
- recursive or parent-child object nesting has changed for world rotation calculations. (I'm kind of surprised this hasn't had an effect on the vista face shading problem)

I could be totally wrong. It was just a quick look that I had. Can any of the devs confirm these fixes?
#36300475391 07/06/2008 21:48:33 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
and I'm on driver version 177.35-177.41 I haven't had time to test this on XP but I do know that the Texture issue within Vista is still there just so you guys know.

Also, I'm wondering if I will get the same issues once I get my Geforce GTX 280 in on wed.
#36300475473 07/07/2008 06:12:03 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Warboy wrote:
and I'm on driver version 177.35-177.41 I haven't had time to test this on XP but I do know that the Texture issue within Vista is still there just so you guys know.

Also, I'm wondering if I will get the same issues once I get my Geforce GTX 280 in on wed.
Texture issue in Vista isn't a nvidia issue though, happens on my ATi 3850 SMILEY
#36300475529 07/07/2008 10:55:36 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)

I dont want to derail the conversation here but please keep comments about the Vista/Texture issue in the thread created for it.

#36300475574 07/07/2008 13:41:33 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
ATTENTION

175.19 has been pulled from NVIDIA due to some performance loss compared to May's 175.16

This could explain why DigitalPhreak probably couldn't get it to work, because it wasn't there.

I'm gonna be trying to use the NVIDIA GX268/280 driver with my 8 series cards later tonight.  I hear that the performance of this driver works excellently with my 8 series cards (yes, I'm forcing another driver, yay for unified driver architecture!), and these were released about the same time, so I'll know if indoor lag is there or not.



#36300476911 07/10/2008 17:24:17 Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
175.19 has been put back up on NVIDIA as of yesterday.
#36300481657 07/23/2008 22:08:29 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
game is running very smooth with my 9800gx2, except sometimes it might jitter for 1 sec in some buildings but then its all good after SMILEY
#36300489084 08/17/2008 10:59:35 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Been tinkering with my 175.19 mod for laptop install lately, and recently, I've been able to reactivate LCD turning off when the lid is closed (original mod lost that feature since its a weird laptop configuration.  Only tested on my two Dells at the moment).  This and the old is still available via PM (please remember I take no responsibility for things going boom, etc etc etc).  I'm really not sure about this one right now, since I spliced the mobile registry items from the older Dell driver settings into this one, but I don't think it'll be an issue with added registry values.  I'll be stressing it, etc.

#36300503068 09/25/2008 11:43:05 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
178.13 Drivers (sept 25) are good.  No indoor issues.  I move that this post be closed and thread name to reflect that.  Keep it for reference and for the hotfix incase it ever returns SMILEY
#36300506219 10/05/2008 11:29:52 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Since I'm just coming back to MxO after a 6 month hiatus, I'm wondering some things.

Do the 178.13 Drivers COMPLETELY fix all indoor issues?
Should I still leave the useropts settings on?


#36300506262 10/05/2008 12:17:19 Re:Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
KanoR wrote:
Since I'm just coming back to MxO after a 6 month hiatus, I'm wondering some things.

Do the 178.13 Drivers COMPLETELY fix all indoor issues?
Should I still leave the useropts settings on?


The latest nvidia drivers for XP (I believe are 178.13), do handle this issue, and you can remove the hot fix from your useropts.
#36300506274 10/05/2008 12:58:09 Re:Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series card issues on WinXP (Indoor performace issue)
Cheers Tsusai, always there when I need help SMILEY