Image Retrieval - February 07, 2008

Virrago · 02/07/2008 07:34:05

This thread is for discussing Image Retrieval, posted February 07, 2008 on Data Node One.

0uranos · 02/07/2008 08:13:57

Jesus H. Christ !

Virrago · 02/07/2008 08:15:06

0uranos wrote:

Jesus H. Christ !

I go by Virrago here.

Thanks though.

Criingey · 02/07/2008 08:15:55

*sigh*

so when is the release?

LoTekGhost · 02/07/2008 08:16:12

Gerik · 02/07/2008 08:16:21

Omg, I came.

SolidRevolver · 02/07/2008 08:18:12

PVP SMILEY

I am loving the new area and the fact that it means we can get more in the future, I am not happy about having to fight to stay there >_<
I was only hoping certain areas would be PVP, at least.

Nicksie · 02/07/2008 08:18:36

Sounds like a place to data mine for a really big profit, but anyone can beat you up! O_O

It really looks like a fun place to explore though SMILEY It's got everything! Warehouses, helicopter landing pads, the barge, the bridges! goodness!

Grave · 02/07/2008 08:21:28

Gerik wrote:

Omg, I came.

lol this like other things in life i did not need to know...

-Collbard- · 02/07/2008 08:22:01

Phase 1? More phases?! Schweet! So it looks like FFA PVP and Extreme Data Mining. Hopefully there are more additions, but for now thats cool enough. *Goes off to check up on Data Mining abilities*

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:23:18

PvP... AllvAll in fact.... no chance to wander around and take in the sights... No sitting on the benches... 7 Proxies and a random entry position.

I'd be interested in seeing how this fits in to the story or even if they'll be a mention about it in the story...

Procurator · 02/07/2008 08:24:46

Oh. My. Good. God. Man, that's too exciting for words. SMILEY

But what's this about the engagement protocols? What does it mean if they're enabled? Are we allowed to fight or aren't we? This either means it's nice and quiet, like a normal district, or... free-for-all!

LoTekGhost · 02/07/2008 08:26:22

I'm really wondering what that Data Min *10 refers to. If it indeed means a x10 data mine payout bonus, that means >100k on average! And given that it takes a few seconds to tap...well, that's some $info there.

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:26:59

Procurator wrote:

Oh. My. Good. God. Man, that's too exciting for words. " width="15" height="15">

But what's this about the engagement protocols? What does it mean if they're enabled? Are we allowed to fight or aren't we? This either means it's nice and quiet, like a normal district, or... free-for-all!

Engagement protocals are enabled thus you can attack anyone... Can't go indoors though.. access restricted...

I guess the Datamining *10 yield is to offset the risk involved... AoE attacks will hurt mission team...

Garu · 02/07/2008 08:28:11

HOLY MACKEREL!!!

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:30:43

Garu wrote:

HOLY MACKEREL!!!

Nope its the Datamine construct... this is a Holy Mackerel:

ZippyTheSquirrel · 02/07/2008 08:30:48

Vinia wrote:

Procurator wrote:
Oh. My. Good. God. Man, that's too exciting for words. " width="15" height="15">

But what's this about the engagement protocols? What does it mean if they're enabled? Are we allowed to fight or aren't we? This either means it's nice and quiet, like a normal district, or... free-for-all!

Engagement protocals are enabled thus you can attack anyone... Can't go indoors though.. access restricted...
I guess the Datamining *10 yield is to offset the risk involved... AoE attacks will hurt mission team...

More importantly, FRIENDLY engagement protocol enabled.

Methinks this is a FFA construct.

exsuscito · 02/07/2008 08:32:34

Now I'm excited.

It mentions both hostile and friendly protocols, so it doesn't seem to be a case of PvP or nothing.

Kybutra · 02/07/2008 08:32:59

Its awesome but the pvp just made it a big let down for me.

Procurator · 02/07/2008 08:33:03

Vinia wrote:

Engagement protocals are enabled thus you can attack anyone...

That's just it: the fact that they're enabled has ambiguous consequences. When were we told what the engagement protocols meant? As far as I'm concerned the protocols being 'engaged' could mean they're actively stopping us from fighting. If the engagement protocols are dropped, we're free to fight. I don't know.

Mitrios · 02/07/2008 08:34:30

Garu wrote:

HOLY MACKEREL!!!

ditto. I know where i'm spending my next 260 days of play time heh

~M

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:34:58

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Vinia wrote:
Procurator wrote:
Oh. My. Good. God. Man, that's too exciting for words. " width="15" height="15">

But what's this about the engagement protocols? What does it mean if they're enabled? Are we allowed to fight or aren't we? This either means it's nice and quiet, like a normal district, or... free-for-all!

Engagement protocals are enabled thus you can attack anyone... Can't go indoors though.. access restricted...
I guess the Datamining *10 yield is to offset the risk involved... AoE attacks will hurt mission team...
More importantly, FRIENDLY engagement protocol enabled.

Methinks this is a FFA construct.

Important word highlighted! SMILEY

Any my post a bit higher up on the first page says AllvAll...

Phluff · 02/07/2008 08:36:44

*waits for everyone elses opinions before I post mine*

hmm

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:36:44

Procurator wrote:

Vinia wrote:
Engagement protocals are enabled thus you can attack anyone...
That's just it: the fact that they're enabled has ambiguous consequences. When were we told what the engagement protocols meant? As far as I'm concerned the protocols being 'engaged' could mean they're actively stopping us from fighting. If the engagement protocols are dropped, we're free to fight. I don't know.

Remember that time on Syntax (may have been on other servers) when everyone could attack everyone else, regardless of Org... that was due to engagement protocals being enabled for enemies and friendlies... The protocal for engagement has been enabled, allowing you to attack. If it were the other way round I believe it'd say something like Passive Protocals Engaged. (If I am mistaken I will be wearing a very red face for a while! SMILEY )

Not something I'd hoped for but I guess hoping for an extra district with NPC's and HL's and Mission contacts would have been a far greater undertaking...

exsuscito · 02/07/2008 08:40:21

*Awaits the explanation of how this fits into the storyline.*

SolidRevolver · 02/07/2008 08:40:33

Phluff wrote:

*waits for everyone elses opinions before I post mine*
hmm

Not sure about the perma PVP?

Anamodiel · 02/07/2008 08:40:47

I really hope this isn't a FFA construct. I dislike FFA. SMILEY

This construct looks sweet. Thanks to Rarebit and team for putting this together and testing it. I had never been expecting anything new in terms of areas for the Matrix, and this opens up many possibilities for the game. SMILEY

Criingey · 02/07/2008 08:41:24

Significantly we know that new areas are possible Vinia... so perhaps sometimes in the future we can hope for new districts.

Although i am disspointed this isnt a new district as such im happy we have a new toy to play with and i for one will be playing alot...

ChloeAnn · 02/07/2008 08:41:27

pvp would be good, even ffa, but that means no teams right?

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:42:13

Would be a lot more funner if this is a single construct accessible by all servers....

Oh you can have teams but be wary of AoE attacks and there is no way to prevent you or your teammate from turning on you...

Gerik · 02/07/2008 08:42:25

ChloeAnn wrote:

pvp would be good, even ffa, but that means no teams right?

You can use teams actually. lol

SolidRevolver · 02/07/2008 08:43:44

Vinia wrote:

Would be a lot more funner if this is a single construct accessible by all servers....

That would be awesome, but would require a new server? *not 100% sure*

odj · 02/07/2008 08:44:38

Please can there be a couple of pacified zones? I was looking forward to exploring this place but now I'm just worried about getting ganked. >_<

The Leo · 02/07/2008 08:46:31

ChloeAnn wrote:

pvp would be good, even ffa, but that means no teams right?

That means any org can make teams with anyone but the people in the teams will also get dmg from areals etc. However it also means (since team) that areal heals also work. XD

CPT_Starschwar · 02/07/2008 08:47:39

Edit:

The area itself is looking good. Free-for all pvp being enabled is good. However, if the area has pvp enabled by default like the other constructs, it would ruin it - why bother making it nice and detailed if we have no chance to enjoy it?

Pyraci · 02/07/2008 08:47:48

Vinia wrote:

Would be a lot more funner if this is a single construct accessible by all servers....

Doubt that will happen, but still....

/whoa

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:48:46

Interior access restricted.. does that mean we can't enter any building or can we enter a few buildings? (Seeing that Rarebit posted a screenshot of Ms. Chamberlain opening a door...)

Nicksie · 02/07/2008 08:49:15

I wonder if any level can go in there!

The Leo · 02/07/2008 08:50:18

kou_urake wrote:

Friendly fire enabled? Good. Mandatory pvp? Makes the area worthless to me.

fixed
They shudda called it friendly fire in the first place and not ffapvp

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:51:09

Come to think of it... just because you can attack anyone doesn't mean that you will be automatically flagged... I must admit its probably likely that you will be but not necessarily, you could still have to flag... that means the benches are saved!

Procurator · 02/07/2008 08:51:36

Vinia wrote:

Remember that time on Syntax (may have been on other servers) when everyone could attack everyone else, regardless of Org... that was due to engagement protocals being enabled for enemies and friendlies... The protocal for engagement has been enabled, allowing you to attack. If it were the other way round I believe it'd say something like Passive Protocals Engaged.

I don't recall it saying anything about engagement protocols being enabled. I'll have to check.

As for interior access, I'm guessing it means we can enter the public areas (lobbies, stairways etc.) but the mission areas haven't been generated.

Gerik · 02/07/2008 08:52:19

Vinia wrote:

Come to think of it... just because you can attack anyone doesn't mean that you will be automatically flagged... I must admit its probably likely that you will be but not necessarily, you could still have to flag... that means the benches are saved!

Remember, it's a construct, not an archive. SMILEY

SolidRevolver · 02/07/2008 08:52:51

Vinia wrote:

Come to think of it... just because you can attack anyone doesn't mean that you will be automatically flagged... I must admit its probably likely that you will be but not necessarily, you could still have to flag... that means the benches are saved!

*prays*

Croesis · 02/07/2008 08:55:29

Gerik wrote:

Remember, it's a construct, not an archive. " width="15" height="15" />

Ah, right... gotcha... SMILEY

Criingey · 02/07/2008 08:56:36

Seems to me a lot of people are making assumptions based on the text on the map says. Simple fact is we are not going to KNOW what is going on until the patch notes or Rarebit comes out and tells us exactly what is going on. Until that point im going to reserve judgement on what will or wont be happening in this area.

One thing we can all be thankful is something brand new to play with.

Gerik · 02/07/2008 08:56:58

Vinia wrote:

Gerik wrote:
Remember, it's a construct, not an archive. " width="15" height="15" />
Ah, right... gotcha... " />

lol I meant like in the archives, you auto flag (Yuki, Sakura, Ashencourte, etc) and in constructs, you don't (Zion Org Construct).

LoTekGhost · 02/07/2008 08:58:50

Well, if Data Yield *10 means what I'm imagining it does, and unless there's some way to cause you to flag while data mining in the construct, I don't think it'll be opt-in FFA (which I'm sorta bummed about, still this area is just full of awesome regardless).

Phluff · 02/07/2008 08:59:37

Gerik wrote:

Vinia wrote:
Gerik wrote:
Remember, it's a construct, not an archive. " width="15" height="15" />
Ah, right... gotcha... ">
lol I meant like in the archives, you auto flag (Yuki, Sakura, Ashencourte, etc) and in constructs, you don't (Zion Org Construct).

But... in yesterday's shots... there was an archivist shown to 'get you there'....... so which is it?

Grave · 02/07/2008 08:59:44

kou_urake wrote:

Friendly fire enabled? Good. Mandatory pvp? Makes the area worthless to me.

lol Try living on Vector. From my point of view this is just what we needed to have some were new to go and fight if we wish to just cuz we are all flaged that dos not mine we have to fight. lol but just think if there was anyone in your org you would like to kill now you can... see not all bad

Grave

CPT_Starschwar · 02/07/2008 09:04:57

Exactly - if I wanted nonstop combat, I'd be on vector.