[9.2.4] You will of course be more than capable of terminating the Architect - Syntax - 1/31/08

Dang it, I wish I'd been there, just to hear Oldskool's dialogue phirst hand!! ^_^ (no one has more guts)

You know, if he fried the Architect, then maybe we could get somewhere with some sort of peace negotiation.

You know, if he fried the Architect, then maybe we could get somewhere with some sort of peace negotiation.

Yeah, and no one deserved more to have a sock stuffed in their mouth. I wasn't even there and it annoyed me.

Neoteny wrote:

You know, if he fried the Architect, then maybe we could get somewhere with some sort of peace negotiation.

Doubtful, I think the Architect already has a plan in place in case he gets deleted.  There's probably a back up copy in the source.

MetaLogic wrote:

Neoteny wrote:

You know, if he fried the Architect, then maybe we could get somewhere with some sort of peace negotiation.

Doubtful, I think the Architect already has a plan in place in case he gets deleted.  There's probably a back up copy in the source.

A backup of a damaged Agent program that's long been disconnected from the Source to the point that he can actually be classified as an Exile?

C'yea, right, you go ahead and keep thinking that.

::Opening Transmission::

Just....just like that. Agent Gray, killed? Deleted? Dead....third, or second, depending on your views, in command...just like that. That overpowerful brute motherless bastard...I wish I could kill him! I have a bad feeling about this meeting with The Architect, and Agent Pace mentioned the presence of an Operative there? That doesn't sound too bright, although I'd be honored to do something like that, Operatives tend to be a little, verbal, which can make the Intruder cranky...and zap....can he really destroy the Architect? IF so, will Deus Ex Machina, the Source, who I believe to be a program running the system, more powerful than the ARchitect, step in? Will the INtruder be destroyed by the Architect? These events on the data node make me hang in doubt...i should reconstruct my Simulacrum...

Be well, repair Agent Gray.

-Operator Fragz

::Close Transmission, Untraceable::

((It'll be nice when a death straight out means someone is dead.))

((Anyway, too bad they can't change Gray off mission controller, it's dumb when regular missions still have him talking...of course, those might as well be a "recording" anyway. I'm guessing Pace will be controller for the final mission of this subchapter. And, since Pace said a responsible operative might be present at the meeting, I'm thinking it may be in the crit. Live event with only one operative might *CENSORED* off some people, at least for something as important as this.))

((It can be done. There were numerous Zion missions with Anome's fugly little face on them as the controller, and the introductory tutorial mission features a portrait of Niobe and no other controller, as far as I recall.))

I'm sure there's some sort of "fail-safe" in store in case the Architect is deleted. Or maybe not. He does seem like the kind of old coot that would think himself immortal. Either way, I'd still like to see him deleted. If nothing else, we can see what this "backup" is and assess how it can be approached.

I sort of figured that another program might take his place so that some sort of order might be restored, but that perhaps that new order might be a slightly altered one. You know, where the machines aren't at our teeth simply because the Colonel ordered them to be? We've hoped that some other programs and machines have had differing... "opinions," for lack of a better term... for a while now. A change in the establishment might lead to a change in policy.

((Anyway, too bad they can't change Gray off mission controller, it's dumb when regular missions still have him talking...of course, those might as well be a "recording" anyway. I'm guessing Pace will be controller for the final mission of this subchapter. And, since Pace said a responsible operative might be present at the meeting, I'm thinking it may be in the crit. Live event with only one operative might *CENSORED* off some people, at least for something as important as this.))

MotorZ wrote:

((Anyway, too bad they can't change Gray off mission controller, it's dumb when regular missions still have him talking...of course, those might as well be a "recording" anyway. I'm guessing Pace will be controller for the final mission of this subchapter. And, since Pace said a responsible operative might be present at the meeting, I'm thinking it may be in the crit. Live event with only one operative might *CENSORED* off some people, at least for something as important as this.))

Hm, good point.  I just checked the Mission Controllers definition file, and it hasn't been updated.  Suffice it to say Pace wasn't added as a mission controller, so that's not gonna happen.  Could be the Operator, though.  Maybe even "Unknown"?

Or maybe Agent Gray will start leaking black code that spews horizontally out of his eyes.  Then he'll go around removing Zion viruses from Machine programs. =Pppp

((Why do you 'ALL' wear Agent Suits? It a step up from buffed clothing, but it kinda takes away from the Agent's epic.))
((Just like the fact that Agents die routinely.))

Well, I really do think Gray has earned his re-assimilation in a big way. I salute his past efforts, and am glad to have served with him. 

I'm confident that this will be cleared up in a jiffy.

((Why do you 'ALL' wear Agent Suits? It a step up from buffed clothing, but it kinda takes away from the Agent's epic.))

(( Can I say that I called this happening a long time ago?  Heh  Well, at least Sareah in her bright white get up and North's good old purple leather were there to spice things up a little. ))

There had better be a back up plan.. though I somehow doubt the removal of the Architect would have the catastrophic result that some are predicting.  My thoughts are with Gray right now in hoping that he recovers and is back to normal operations as soon as possible.

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

MetaLogic wrote:

Neoteny wrote:

You know, if he fried the Architect, then maybe we could get somewhere with some sort of peace negotiation.

Doubtful, I think the Architect already has a plan in place in case he gets deleted.  There's probably a back up copy in the source.

A backup of a damaged Agent program that's long been disconnected from the Source to the point that he can actually be classified as an Exile?

C'yea, right, you go ahead and keep thinking that.

((I believe that he meant there was a backup of the Architect, not Gray.))

Iovai wrote:

((Why do you 'ALL' wear Agent Suits? It a step up from buffed clothing, but it kinda takes away from the Agent's epic.))

(( Can I say that I called this happening a long time ago?  Heh  Well, at least Sareah in her bright white get up and North's good old purple leather were there to spice things up a little. ))

When their individualism is slowly washed away, the only thing left behind is a Machine.

Ok  so im fairly certain the intruder is  Deus Ex Machina...  am I way late on this?    He is a cocky lil b4stard just like in revolutions   "WE DONT NEED YOU! WE NEED NOTHING!"

anyone else have this idea?

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Personality is not defined by how you dress.

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I have faith that the system can restore Agent Gray.

Illyria

(( I thought he was DEM when he first showed up, Imax... but I really doubt it, what with the "He's a human" thing.

And I always make it a point to *not* wear the system suit at events.

))

Vinia wrote:

Personality is not defined by how you dress.

No, but it can certainly be indicative of and most definately gives the first impression which is how 70 percent of the people you encounter will perceive you.

Archangel wrote:

Vinia wrote:

Personality is not defined by how you dress.

No, but it can certainly be indicative of and most definately gives the first impression which is how 70 percent of the people you encounter will perceive you.

Point made. Perception. People don't trust the Machines (Machinists exluded), that's why dressing up as one already gives the wrong idea.

Personality is not defined by how you dress, but personality will be ignored once you make the wrong gestures. Speech ... is only 10% of what we perceive.

Why do you think the Effectuator is so popular? He's wearing goddamn bermudas and a shirt, even if he goes to the Opera.

- GG

Yeah, but you are thinking as a redpill, we do not dress up to change or create an image with you. You know most of us, we've both made impressions on each other, the first being a long time ago now. No, our appearance is to allow us to project a businesslike authority to those without knowledge of the war and the Machines, it also allows for possible recognition between redpills.

Perception is exactly why I dress as I do. I would rather attempt to look and be an authority with a bluepill in a fitted, pressed suit than in a very short skirt and crop top or even a skintight latex outfit...

(Story wise I don't see a purpose of "reviving" a backup of agent Gray since agent Pace can take care of things and he is also an older version i.e. not very capable of fighting as the other agents)

The Leo wrote:

(Story wise I don't see a purpose of "reviving" a backup of agent Gray since agent Pace can take care of things and he is also an older version i.e. not very capable of fighting as the other agents)

((Agent Gray was in the simulation when the Smith Virus took hold, now I know he doesn't have a 'son after his name but weren't all Agents upgraded after the first film? Also it is Pace that is the least capable in combat (as was written somewhere, possibly in her details) of Agents as her role was to make Machine-Human interaction easier. Gray also has experience on his side with dealing with Humans so I'd say his knowledge is invaluable))

Vinia wrote:

The Leo wrote:

(Story wise I don't see a purpose of "reviving" a backup of agent Gray since agent Pace can take care of things and he is also an older version i.e. not very capable of fighting as the other agents)

((Agent Gray was in the simulation when the Smith Virus took hold, now I know he doesn't have a 'son after his name but weren't all Agents upgraded after the first film? Also it is Pace that is the least capable in combat (as was written somewhere, possibly in her details) of Agents as her role was to make Machine-Human interaction easier. Gray also has experience on his side with dealing with Humans so I'd say his knowledge is invaluable))

(The upgraded agents literally vanished story wise in the game. The upgraded agents in the movies had names like Johnson, Thompson etc. but still seems weird since when Smith got terminated he came back as an exile and the machines didn't bring him back because he had no use. His knowledge of humans is data that the machines can easily store without having the issues trying to backup an agent)

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Archangel wrote:

Vinia wrote:

Personality is not defined by how you dress.

No, but it can certainly be indicative of and most definately gives the first impression which is how 70 percent of the people you encounter will perceive you.

Point made. Perception. People don't trust the Machines (Machinists exluded), that's why dressing up as one already gives the wrong idea.

Personality is not defined by how you dress, but personality will be ignored once you make the wrong gestures. Speech ... is only 10% of what we perceive.

Why do you think the Effectuator is so popular? He's wearing goddamn bermudas and a shirt, even if he goes to the Opera.

- GG

Yeah, but you are thinking as a redpill, we do not dress up to change or create an image with you. You know most of us, we've both made impressions on each other, the first being a long time ago now. No, our appearance is to allow us to project a businesslike authority to those without knowledge of the war and the Machines, it also allows for possible recognition between redpills.

Perception is exactly why I dress as I do. I would rather attempt to look and be an authority with a bluepill in a fitted, pressed suit than in a very short skirt and crop top or even a skintight latex outfit...

((From the Machine efficiency standpoint, which is oh-so-often overlooked, to be perfectly honest, I don't think it'd be worth their efforts to remake Gray when they could just pop a new Agent up in his place two meters to the left without having to go through whatever trouble it would take to reconstruct a particular Agent. It's just a waste of resources and time.))