

225 posts · 2008-02-01 06:53:00 to 2009-06-06 16:48:36


That was a rather jaw dropping episode D:
I dunno whether to be happy or sad that I guessed it would be Michael on the boat. It'll be interesting to find out how he got there, and who's blood that was on the wall, the guy that went out with Minkowski on the dingy or something? I remember Minkowski said he went nuts. The way that doctor guy spoke it was as if the blood reappeared, either that or Michael's slacking on the cleaning 
The way they mixed up the flashes had me rather confused, but I think you're right Orexis, it made the ending a lot more effective.
So, I'm still wondering what the confirmed Oceanic 6 is. I guess Aaron has to become part of that? Maybe Jin dies after they get back and is one of the Oceanic 6 or maybe he's dead and is one of those whom Jack said survived the plane crash but not the Island itself. Still, Jin is not going to be the person that was in the casket at the end of season 3, I'm fairly sure of that.
Did it look like the female doctor taking Suns jewelery was Jins mom, maybe just a little younger looking though? It did to me (though, I'm not saying they're one in the same, they just looked a like, is all).
Kind of annoying how they killed off Regina and Minkowski so quickly too.

The whole 'cabin fever' thing is really creepy, people blowing their heads off, tying themselves in chains and jumping overboard... nuts. Also did anyone notice nearly all the shots on the boat seemed cinematicaly darker than the island? Like they were shot to seem much darker? Maybe just me...Aye, especially with the blood on the wall in that room. Kinda felt like Silent Hill, just a little.
Well, i'm pretty sure we can gather that he's Ben's spy (and if not, that'll be another shocker/cliffhanger for a future episode) ... which will lead to a few questions, like what happened to Walt; What did Ben sucker him into to get him to change his name and spy on the boat (Why he looks so miserableThat was a rather jaw dropping episode D:
I dunno whether to be happy or sad that I guessed it would be Michael on the boat. It'll be interesting to find out how he got there,
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I don't think Jin's dead. If you look on the gravestone on the date of his death, it's 9-22-2004... which is the day Flight 815 crashed into the island. I'm guessing that for whatever reason, the Oceanic Six left the island and the others are all still alive on it...
Isn't that the day of the crash? I'm wondering if perhaps he's one of the two people who Jack said died after they survived the crash. At the same time, the way Sun cried out for Jin when she was in labour suggests perhaps he is stuck back on the Island.
I think maybe Ben has Walt and is using him to make Michael do it.
Another thing would be whether or not we should actually trust the captain. Presuming Michael slipped that note under the door "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN", he doesn't really have a reason to lie to Sayeed and Desmond. Equally, we can't trust Ben, we should know that by now. To add even more weight to this theory, if Ben does have Walt, then Michael will obviously not be happy so even though he's Bens man on the boat, he shouldn't have any qualms telling Sayeed and Des not to trust the captains word IE: Perhaps it's not Widmores boat.
Also, someone made an interesting point to me the other day, I wonder what will happen in the future with the note Claire put on the seagull?

Another thing would be whether or not we should actually trust the captain. Presuming Michael slipped that note under the door "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN", he doesn't really have a reason to lie to Sayeed and Desmond.If anything we've learned with Lost its do not trust what anyone says (even the oceanic people) the captain was far to forthcoming with information. Personally I think he was trying to drive the story of Ben crashing the fake plane and the dead bodies into Sayid and Desmond to much almost like "Hey look here are the facts... he did it." but all the facts are wrong or something... something isn't right with that story. I still think Ben is 'one of the good guys'.

Jin could also have faked his death and remarried or whatnot. No way to know for sure. =P
Confusion!!!
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That episode was a little under-whelming in terms of a real quick pace and tension to it like previous mid season break episodes have had, but I suppose thats fair enough considering it wasn't a planned break until the writers strike. There was still a fair amount of questions raised though.
I guess the obvious one is, who shot Karl and Danielle? I think it was Ben who orchestrated it(what he said to Michael about not killing innocent people, Ben didn't kill Libby or Ana Lucia, but he sure as hell manipulated the situation into having little or no alternative) but I'm not so sure who actually carried out the shooting. There was obviously some hinting towards Keamy doing it as Frank and Keamy were away on an "errand" and we see him shooting targets on the boat, but I'm not so sure. I mean, in fairness his aim wasn't exactly great he missed like 3 targets. When Karl and Rousseu are shot, it seems like it's with rifles(the guns were silenced at least) or something, certainly high powered and takes skill to use although it might well have been them but Ben new fine well that they would have been there. At the same time, I don't see Frank being involved in this so that leads me to believe that they probably aren't involved. Maybe the Others? Though where would they get the equipment, I don't think we've seen them with such weapons.
The Captain seemed totally un-suprised when Sayid told him Michael was on 815. It's either poor acting or he's working with Ben too. Michael didn't look too worried either, his look was more of a "You shouldn't have done that, I told you not to trust the Captain" type look.
Tom being g.ay(Annoying forum filter) ? Saw that coming by the line he said to Kate "Let's just say you're not my type" and the way the line was delivered.
The preview for the next episode suggests Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. If he is, I find that a little ridiculous, I suppose we'll see soon enough how they justify it. Also, screaming and monster sounds...looks like things will be picking up in episode 9 
Oh, and I don't think Widmore planted the plane nor did he dig up peoples graves in Asia. Did the dead Pilot in the episode with the flashbacks with Faraday, Frank, Charlotte and Miles look Asian? Not to me.

the whole "I'm Ben's daughter!" which saved AlexI figured it was because Ben said to her that she was in danger because of the freighter people, so she was under the impression that it was them. She probably wouldn't even know about Keamy or Omar, she would just know about Miles, Daniel, Frank and Charlotte.

Wow. I guess it was Keamy then. 
Still, wouldn't suprise me if Ben orchestrated it in some manner.

is lost shown on abc in the uk?Gah, Eb, you made me change my edit. -.-

Indecisi0n wrote:is lost shown on abc in the uk?I think it's on Channel 4.
*kidnaps Orexis*
*flees*
Indecisi0n wrote:is lost shown on abc in the uk?Gah, Eb, you made me change my edit. -.-
Anyway, it IS on Channel 4.
It's on Sky One, actually.
>_>
It used to be on Channel 4 until Season 3 kicked off last year, it's on Sky One for the rest of this series and the next I think.

Well I guess I shouldn't have edited it at all then. >_> At least I was right! ... Kinda!It's on Sky One, actually.
>_>
It used to be on Channel 4 until Season 3 kicked off last year, it's on Sky One for the rest of this series and the next I think.


Yasamuu1 wrote:Well I guess I shouldn't have edited it at all then. >_> At least I was right! ... Kinda!It's on Sky One, actually.
>_>
It used to be on Channel 4 until Season 3 kicked off last year, it's on Sky One for the rest of this series and the next I think.
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(I'm stuck with watching it on ABC, i'm not on that side of the Atlantic!)
I prefer watching the American versions. The sound is sped up and sounds a little off when they bring shows over from America and air them here. Plus, if I watch the American versions I get to see them a few days earlier. >_>
Also, new sneak preview: http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/20...-come_5516.html
I'm really struggling to resist reading spoilers for the first time. Withdrawl symptoms are getting the better of me ~_~

I prefer watching the American versions. The sound is sped up and sounds a little off when they bring shows over from America and air them here.That's weird. You'd think they would be able to bring them over without sound issues... o.O

Yasamuu wrote:I prefer watching the American versions. The sound is sped up and sounds a little off when they bring shows over from America and air them here.That's weird. You'd think they would be able to bring them over without sound issues... o.O
PAL Video frames fluctuate differently from NTSC ones. (Had to ask Tseng because I forgot XD)

Orexis. wrote:Ah that's right. PAL works in 25fps, if i'm not mistaken, whereas NTSC is 29.97fps. That would cause it to stagger over time.Yasamuu wrote:I prefer watching the American versions. The sound is sped up and sounds a little off when they bring shows over from America and air them here.That's weird. You'd think they would be able to bring them over without sound issues... o.OPAL Video frames fluctuate differently from NTSC ones. (Had to ask Tseng because I forgot XD)


Man that episode was awesome!!!
SPOILERS MAYBE!!!!!
Keamy = Badass for stone cold killing Ben's daughter
Smoke Monster = Double Badass for owning Keamy's troops.
I'm interested in learning how exactly Ben can control or call the monster but thats prolly afew episodes away at least. Overall I was fairly impressed. It was kinda funny when everyone kept popping out of the house and getting shot even after Sawyer was screaming to get inside. But yeah a nice return for Lost. I'm pumped. Also what did everyone think about the dead Doctor or Ben making in the desert with a parka on for that matter?
Also, does anyone else think Keamy looks like Ed Robertson from the Barenaked Ladies?
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For reference, this is Keamy
And hey, they're both Canadian!
I think I need to rewatch that, there was a fair amount to take in!
Good to see how Sayid ends up working with Ben, makes sense.
Ben seems to have total control over every situation he ends up in. Alex being killed like that is probably one of the few times where he's not been in control, despite everything he tried. I was pretty suprised they killed her off.
The Widmore/Ben thing gets more and more confusing. Changed the rules of the game? Is all of this stuff going on on the island just for show? Ben says he doesn't kill innocent people, well if Widmore is this tyrant that Ben's made him out to be, surely he would have killed him right there and then?
I hope not all of the mercenaries are dead, though I'd expect they are. The ruthless streak was pretty cool.
Edit: Upon beginning the rewatch I noticed the jacket Bens wearing had the name "Halliwax" on the front left. Which is the name of the scientist in the Dharma videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bTvAUVPyLI

So much going on.
Just rewatched some bits, and I noticed that Ben comes out of that secret room all grubby. When he goes in his face and shirt are clean, but when he comes out he's all covered in ash (mostly heavy spots of it), like he's been shoveling coal. Goodness knows what he was doing in there... maybe some kind of ritual?
And what does Widmore mean when he says: 'I know who you are, boy. What you are.' He obviously knows who Ben is already, so what he meant by that must have had some greater significance.
Yeah. I'm wondering if that room is perhaps Ben's "box" that he spoke of in Season 3.
I was just watching that Widmore and Ben scene a couple of minutes ago. I'm wondering if perhaps Widmore had some kind of controlling stake in Dharma or something because he said "Everything you have you took from me" and "That Island is mine, Benjamin. It always was and it will be again." and the idea that Ben "took it" from him is perhaps because he gassed the Dharma folk.
Also, the Claire and Miles dialogue Claire: "But, I'll live", Miles: "I wouldn't be too sure about that", foreboding much? :p
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I don't think it starts for another couple of weeks in the UK, Sphairo. There's a recap starting on Sky One this weekend which I think suggests it'll be a week or two before they start up again.



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Lost is an addiction


Holy Mother of Zombie Jebus!
That was one of the best episodes ever.



After seeing the promo's for this episode with it promoting "A glimpse at John's destiny." I really expected more.
That's not to say I didn't like the episode, thought it was pretty good, guess I was expecting more from the last episode before the finale (Next part is part 1 of a 3 parter so technically its the last episode before the finale story). Oh also LOST needs to stop pulling the "Something important is about to be said by a character but we will cut away to outside of the scene and learn about it in a few mins..." it happens way to often and they need to stay in the scene now and again rather than cutting away all the time, it spoils the flow. Although Hurley sharing his chocolate bar with Ben was great, got to love Hurley." />
Great to see Richard Alpert back as the mysterious non-aging Other shame the actor who plays him had other commitments and couldn't be available for the whole season as he seems our only real link with the 'true Others'. The test John took was interesting, especially since Richard really hated it when John picked up the knife considering John is still very close to his knifes. (look when he wakes up hearing Horace chopping and his hand immediately goes to his knife rather than grab a gun) Also who thinks that Locke really owes Matthew Abaddon that favour about going on a walkabout? Granted this is LOST and everything connects and they probably will meet again but will Locke think he owes him it?
Claire has gone all weird... being all spooky in the cabin with Christian. o.O

Hah you said it all right there. Lots of answers, but to many more questions. Got to love LOST.
Information overload in that episode ~_~

