#3630032565309/19/2007 18:55:23Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Is there a reason they're only showing EPNS performing these moves?
#3630032566909/19/2007 19:20:14Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
kou_urake wrote:
Is there a reason they're only showing EPNS performing these moves?
Because it would look silly if the Merovingian was performing a wall kick.
#3630032567409/19/2007 19:40:32Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Again: Good ability, bad pill.
Unless it's a permanent grant.
You know, there's enough moves in here to make some sub-abilities for the op trees...
- Void
Recursion:n - See Recursion.
#3630032567509/19/2007 19:40:41Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
kou_urake wrote:
Is there a reason they're only showing EPNS performing these moves?
Favoritism!!!111
#3630032567809/19/2007 19:49:22Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
looks nice cant wait
#3630032570209/19/2007 20:41:10Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
How about replacing Sharpshooter and Multi-fighting with something we can use, oh, and I still have a blank box in my awakened abs where Mobius should be.
Vet rewards?
#3630032572009/19/2007 21:15:48Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
The recent image retrievals look promising... well, even though they're other moves pieced together.
I do hope these are abilities and not pills, because the idea of pills doesn't make much sense to me... hehe, grants never have, since they're not done like Trinity's chopper manual DL in the first movie.
#3630032572109/19/2007 21:15:51Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
EndlessVoid wrote:
Again: Good ability, bad pill.
Unless it's a permanent grant.
You know, there's enough moves in here to make some sub-abilities for the op trees... " />
- Void
Perhaps they're not gonna be pills? (Unless Rarebit said they were.) They could just be new abilities for the Martial Art trees...
#3630032573109/19/2007 21:50:32Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Just replace the pill or inhaler icon on these "ability Grants" with the cell-phone icon. " /> Then, it's an ability downloaded to you real time from your Operator, just like in those movies. What were those movies called again...
#3630032573209/19/2007 21:52:26Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
EndlessVoid wrote:
Again: Good ability, bad pill.
Unless it's a permanent grant.
Even if it is a permanent grant, it will no doubt require farming in order to obtain.
Having to farm for a pill to activate an animation that could easily be performed under CR1 if you knew what to do seems a bad gameplay model, in my opinion. CR2 was two steps forward in terms of balancing combat, but it was three steps back in terms of animation and synchronization which is what makes interlock fun in the first place.
A certain wallkick maneuver is already playable in-game at this time. It requires no farming and no pill, and it looks pretty darn sweet. These animations obviously don't require activation from a pill or any other item. Putting them in pill form is a lame excuse for content.
#3630032576909/19/2007 23:33:30Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
i remember this one. i've got a stash of wallkick pics from when i found out how to do 'em, and this one was my favorite. i wonder if this means we'll be seeing the aikido, horizontal wall-run attack, aswell...
Edit: does this mean that the previous two work? or are you just teasing us with more goodies?
#3630032578209/20/2007 01:06:54Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
I have to say, I'm in favour of the 'CR1 moves for Grandmaster Styles' idea as far as this sort of thing is concerned but, that issue aside, it'll be great to see these moves brought back. Will it be worth having them if we have to take pills? RAFO I guess.
#3630032579609/20/2007 02:27:39Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
WHY pills? At least make it so it's one time only pill so the animation plays at random or something like that, not a pill for every time u wanna use it...
#3630032580609/20/2007 02:59:17Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
has anybody thought about the fact that pill icon might just be place holder and or just a bullet point next to the name of the move . also i can see the old move been called new moves augment, but just remember to bear this in mind MxO has a lot of new players in it like me who have never seen these moves and therefor are new to me and many others and i am looking very foreword to seeing them
#3630032581209/20/2007 03:14:55Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Awesome move. Bad name.
Oh and we all know the idea of pills is tiresome; surely the point of these threads is for feedback. In that case id like to see them changed.
#3630032581309/20/2007 03:15:57Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
PS10N wrote:
Just replace the pill or inhaler icon on these "ability Grants" with the cell-phone icon. Then, it's an ability downloaded to you real time from your Operator, just like in those movies. What were those movies called again...
YES!!!11!!!one!!!1
#3630032581709/20/2007 03:20:26Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Holy woah. That video plan awesome, and the wall kick! hah, I've always wanted that kick. Its my favourite. Good job!
#3630032584609/20/2007 04:02:38Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
The name's a bit iffy, as is the pill thing, but the move is both nostalgic and awesome.
#3630032585209/20/2007 04:16:49Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Enough with the pills people!!Whats wrong with you!!!!Nice to see CR1 back
#3630032585909/20/2007 04:32:22Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Anything from origianl combat is good news to me. Wall kicks and multi-fighting were what made combat fun and Matrixy. The combat we've had since CR2 was put in has been extremely stale for me personally. If there are wall jumps still in-game I have yet to see them. I hear many complaints about CR1 being bugged and taking too long to do anything. I must admit it wasn't perfect however, I see more bugs in the current combat than I ever noticed before. Maybe it's just because so much was removed to the point we end up with blank moves where nothing happens. In my opinion, removing animations when there is no animator working on the game is a bad idea. Any game for that matter. Imagine where Disney would be without an animator...
These moves/animations need to be brought back in. It's more fun, it's more Matrixy. Having to take more pills is a bad idea. To bend the rules in the Matrix you take one pill, the redpill. We've all taken it so lets get on with it shall we?
If we have to take one pill to unlock this content fine. Farming constantly to do these things is ridiculous.
#3630032594909/20/2007 08:14:27Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Awesome to see it coming back, as this was easily my favorite move from CR1, but I'm still iffy on the pill idea unless, as said, it's a premanent grant of some kind. Of course, that could mean earning it could be the equivalent of earning the patcher's headgear, which is just silly.
Well, guess we'll just have to see.
By the way, how's the Halloween planning going for this year?
#3630032598109/20/2007 09:13:01Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
It's going to be great to finally have these back!!! If we do
#3630032602609/20/2007 10:35:56Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
These moves are all still ingame. We've been testing like rabbits in the Animations thread. They are harder to do in CR2, but still there.
I have a feeling these "shadows" are something slightly different.
#3630032603509/20/2007 10:42:27Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
I don't know if they're all still there, but it sounds like from that topic at least some are But I don't know if we really know how many of them there are total anyway =P I know there's at least two different Karate ones for certain
#3630032604409/20/2007 10:51:27Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Nicksie wrote:
I don't know if they're all still there, but it sounds like from that topic at least some are " width="15" height="15" /> But I don't know if we really know how many of them there are total anyway =P I know there's at least two different Karate ones for certain " width="15" height="15" />
#3630032610409/20/2007 13:04:57Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
New moves or restored deleted moves = very, very good.
Making them consumables = horrible idea.
Making them abilities instead = good.
Making them org abilities too = godly.
#3630032610509/20/2007 13:09:26Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
I like the interaction player-enviroment idea. I think we need more movements like this (about the animation)
#3630032621109/20/2007 15:16:55Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
I think I kinda just like them randomly occurring provided conditions are right. Not tied to any pill, or ability, or crew/org/faction/team. Just leave em like bullet-time, nice little surprises that occur to make you go "ooohh, did you just see that! That rocked!!".
#3630032622809/20/2007 15:42:28Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
can't we just make these moves occur at random times if done correctly? executing these moves when taking a pill is irrelevant
#3630032626209/20/2007 16:22:30Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Ability Grant Pills = Consumable Pill =
#3630032627609/20/2007 16:45:48Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
We're very lucky to get these new move sets at all, let's not get hasty just because they come in pill form.
#3630032773409/23/2007 15:17:02Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
kou_urake wrote:
New moves or restored deleted moves = very, very good.
Making them consumables = horrible idea.
Making them abilities instead = good.
Making them org abilities too = godly.
Agreed on all four points.
I am still waiting for org abilities, to be quite honest.
If they make them into consumables I won't particularly care to farm for them. Especially if they're a one-time-use consumable. I haven't bothered with the new content in Bathory either, mainly because of how many people it takes to kill the Corruptor and all of the effort it takes for an item I'll never use. The Data Mining content is fun, however. Although I admit that's also lost it's "new factor" with me. I can't remember the last time I ran a critical mission. Perhaps two or three months ago?
To me the only remaining content is player-made and LESIG. The other stuff has been too bland for me. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the game. I just enjoy other aspects of it.
#3630032773709/23/2007 15:18:24Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Paige6 wrote:
I think I kinda just like them randomly occurring provided conditions are right. Not tied to any pill, or ability, or crew/org/faction/team. Just leave em like bullet-time, nice little surprises that occur to make you go "ooohh, did you just see that! That rocked!!".
I wish there was more of that, tbh. You only really get finishers and sometimes you get bullet-time with a special. But overall there's too little of it for me to get ooh'd and ahh'd about it.
#3630032792909/23/2007 20:19:41Re:Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
Let's also take a look at how they've delivered content before. I'd imagine that the reason why these moves have 'shadow' as a prefix in their titles has a lot to do with their origins. For example, you won't need a wall to do the animation/move. That's why they are so special. The razor will be a 'shadow razor,' which means the pill bestows that maneuver on you. Same applies to the Shadow Phoenix - it doesn't need a wall for it to be made possible. It creates the wall for you.
It would also explain why they'd be coming in pill form as opposed to being abilities you'd be able to obtain permanently.
#3630032890809/25/2007 20:44:39Image Retrieval - September 19, 2007
