[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

45 posts · 2007-08-07 23:34:19 to 2007-08-15 09:18:33

#36300299001 08/07/2007 23:34:19 [8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07


The mannequin's story is strangely incomplete. If it is a lie, it is hardly a good one. And if it is not... Well, we shall see.

#36300299005 08/07/2007 23:46:50 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Hm. Good work, everyone...

...and, sir, please do send Flood my apologies; I'm sure he understands.
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#36300299009 08/07/2007 23:54:20 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
The absence of truth is a strange thing.  How long can a half truth persist while one seeks knowledge?  The pieces are in position.
#36300299014 08/08/2007 00:15:27 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
I like the part where we stormed the meeting. Maybe even more when we cleaned out. Good times indeed.
#36300299016 08/08/2007 00:16:01 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((I loved how we could barely get a word out.  I'm glad they log these things, because of Zion and the Machines, I couldn't read a *CENSORED* thing that the Merovingian or Morpheus said.  What an embarassment.))
#36300299019 08/08/2007 00:36:32 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Am I the only one who noticed the first four screens? What was happening between the Merv, Effy and the General? Why did the Effectuator put his hand through that Elite's chest, killing it? Why would it warrant a thumbs up?
#36300299026 08/08/2007 01:18:46 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

Most curious. Most curious, indeed. Of course, I would not find it at all surprising if Morpheus had been lied to on certain matters, or if his simulacra were not perfectly designed with all of the facts. More curious, however, would be why the Merovingian seems to have taken such an interest in this. He seems to be very specifically interested in the power bluepills provide, how, exactly, it works, and where, exactly, everything is located. Perhaps he intends to convert the fields over to a new system of his own design? Time will tell, I suppose.

((And really, shame on the majority of the peanut gallery there... That was just idiocy supreme. Honestly, Dez was the best player involved, followed by those who didn't belong there, and had sense enough to say very little, or nothing at all.

And, please, no offense, Rare, but if you're going to ignore NightTrace for questioning Pace's authority, the least you could do is ignore all of the spammers at events like these. I'm not going to lie - they made the event look cheap.))

#36300299027 08/08/2007 01:27:12 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Neoteny wrote:

((And really, shame on the majority of the peanut gallery there... That was just idiocy supreme. Honestly, Dez was the best player involved, followed by those who didn't belong there, and had sense enough to say very little, or nothing at all.

And, please, no offense, Rare, but if you're going to ignore NightTrace for questioning Pace's authority, the least you could do is ignore all of the spammers at events like these. I'm not going to lie - they made the event look cheap.))



I agree completely! 
#36300299028 08/08/2007 01:29:48 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
MetaLogic wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

((And really, shame on the majority of the peanut gallery there... That was just idiocy supreme. Honestly, Dez was the best player involved, followed by those who didn't belong there, and had sense enough to say very little, or nothing at all.

And, please, no offense, Rare, but if you're going to ignore NightTrace for questioning Pace's authority, the least you could do is ignore all of the spammers at events like these. I'm not going to lie - they made the event look cheap.))



I agree completely! 
I do to. Especially about the part where I get ignored for following what my character would do.
#36300299031 08/08/2007 01:37:48 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
The Elite Commandos in the construct are linked to individual Sentinels in the Real.  The Merovingian had warned the General to stay in designated areas and otherwise obey orders, or there would be consequences.  It seems to me that the Effectuator reached into the chest of an Elite Commando and stopped his heart, thus "killing" the Sentinel in the Real.  An example to the General to stay loyal, I'm sure.  The thumbs' up is merely the subordinate reporting a mission accomplished back to his superior.  The Merovingian's interest in power sources points to his plans to expand his influences in the Real.

Our engineers are working on ways for Holographics to distinguish between Machine Sentinels and Merv Sentinels, but for now we are assuming that the ones that run from a firefight are the Merv's and the ones that keep coming are the Machines'.  In a way the General did us all a favor by tearing the Machines' Sentinel army down to the manageable size it is now.  The small pockets of Sentinels on patrol haven't kept us from establishing secure broadcast positions.  The Rocket Propelled Grenade EMPs are working very well... the squiddies scatter when we fire them and, although the EMP blast range is small due to the limited power supply on board the RPG-EMP, the speed at which the shock wave advances usually catches a few and downs them.  The advantage of a ranged EMP blast is that our own systems are not affected.  I'm glad we took advantage of the peace time to prepare for war, otherwise we would have been stranded every time we had to resort to blowing an EMP.  Thanks to the research necessary for powering the EMP defenses of New Zion, the RPG EMPs are a success.

(((As for the rest, please use Xfire or the other IMs to call in troops who aren't already jacked in when we are needed to sway the outcome with numbers. 
Also, as I've plead before, during Live Events: stay in character, role-play and say relevant and/or dramatic things, or .... be quiet. 
Ruining events for everyone else is the height of juvenile behavior; quit it.)))

"Combined with a form of fusion, the machines had found all the power they would ever need..."

This is a very old discussion.  Do the machines (mechanicals, not redpills) even need human-generated power at all or are they just being efficient by not letting it go to waste?

"You won't let it happen.  You can't.  You need humans to survive."
"There are levels of survival we are willing to accept."

Why then keep nearly 8 billion in the pods?  What's the real reason the machines need humans and seemingly need to control us?

Ponder...
#36300299035 08/08/2007 01:55:44 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((Yeah it turned into a spam fest after a while. Good thing I kept up with the reading. Of course I'll admit, the event kinda just drudged on and on at one point and I walked outside to spam the EPNs.))
#36300299042 08/08/2007 02:32:11 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Well, if you'll pardon the cliche, that was very interesting. 
The simple reason for (original) Morpheus' knowledge is that he was tutored by the Oracle.  It's possible of course that there's something deeper and more complex going on but for now Occam's Razor is the rule to follow. 
#36300299092 08/08/2007 04:34:59 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Feel free to exercise that ignore feature Rarebit. Just sayin'...
#36300299133 08/08/2007 06:08:14 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Trayen1 wrote:
Feel free to exercise that ignore feature Rarebit. Just sayin'...

Yeah I have to agree. Well you know there are some events that end up in the mature people's hands, and then there are some events where the peanut gallery get ear of it. I swear, some of what those people were saying were just pathetic. "What is the power source of the pods." "bananas" Get real. :/
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#36300299138 08/08/2007 06:27:20 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Mave wrote:
((Yeah it turned into a spam fest after a while. Good thing I kept up with the reading. Of course I'll admit, the event kinda just drudged on and on at one point and I walked outside to spam the EPNs.))

How many points did I lose for looking like your mother again? XD
#36300299161 08/08/2007 07:31:09 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((I gotta believe it's kinda weird for Rarebit to do those set up screens where he's the only one doing everything))

Hmm...interesting. It almost seems like someone messed with the Morpheus sim's programming; first he stops obeying the General, and now he seems even more off.
#36300299169 08/08/2007 07:54:08 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
NightTrace wrote:
MetaLogic wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

((And really, shame on the majority of the peanut gallery there... That was just idiocy supreme. Honestly, Dez was the best player involved, followed by those who didn't belong there, and had sense enough to say very little, or nothing at all.

And, please, no offense, Rare, but if you're going to ignore NightTrace for questioning Pace's authority, the least you could do is ignore all of the spammers at events like these. I'm not going to lie - they made the event look cheap.))



I agree completely! 
I do to. Especially about the part where I get ignored for following what my character would do.

He totally has a point.
#36300299224 08/08/2007 09:38:59 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
PS10N wrote:
The Elite Commandos in the construct are linked to individual Sentinels in the Real.  The Merovingian had warned the General to stay in designated areas and otherwise obey orders, or there would be consequences.  It seems to me that the Effectuator reached into the chest of an Elite Commando and stopped his heart, thus "killing" the Sentinel in the Real.  An example to the General to stay loyal, I'm sure.  The thumbs' up is merely the subordinate reporting a mission accomplished back to his superior.  The Merovingian's interest in power sources points to his plans to expand his influences in the Real.

Our engineers are working on ways for Holographics to distinguish between Machine Sentinels and Merv Sentinels, but for now we are assuming that the ones that run from a firefight are the Merv's and the ones that keep coming are the Machines'.  In a way the General did us all a favor by tearing the Machines' Sentinel army down to the manageable size it is now.  The small pockets of Sentinels on patrol haven't kept us from establishing secure broadcast positions.  The Rocket Propelled Grenade EMPs are working very well... the squiddies scatter when we fire them and, although the EMP blast range is small due to the limited power supply on board the RPG-EMP, the speed at which the shock wave advances usually catches a few and downs them.  The advantage of a ranged EMP blast is that our own systems are not affected.  I'm glad we took advantage of the peace time to prepare for war, otherwise we would have been stranded every time we had to resort to blowing an EMP.  Thanks to the research necessary for powering the EMP defenses of New Zion, the RPG EMPs are a success.

(((As for the rest, please use Xfire or the other IMs to call in troops who aren't already jacked in when we are needed to sway the outcome with numbers. 
Also, as I've plead before, during Live Events: stay in character, role-play and say relevant and/or dramatic things, or .... be quiet. 
Ruining events for everyone else is the height of juvenile behavior; quit it.)))

"Combined with a form of fusion, the machines had found all the power they would ever need..."

This is a very old discussion.  Do the machines (mechanicals, not redpills) even need human-generated power at all or are they just being efficient by not letting it go to waste?

"You won't let it happen.  You can't.  You need humans to survive."
"There are levels of survival we are willing to accept."

Why then keep nearly 8 billion in the pods?  What's the real reason the machines need humans and seemingly need to control us?

Ponder...

I think the best explanation that I have heard as to why they need man kind hooked up to the pods has to do more with fusion than the power they generate. Fusion is a very complex process and it would make sense that the combined computing power of the humans hooked up would be able to control the process better. Censerving the other energy they output would just be efficient.
#36300299226 08/08/2007 09:42:41 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
I'm going to agree with ignoring the people who spammed, thankfully I wasn't one of them. I said like 4 things >.>


#36300299231 08/08/2007 09:45:16 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Very fun event indeed.
#36300299317 08/08/2007 10:58:13 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.
#36300299326 08/08/2007 11:13:43 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.
((Well that is kinda disturbing, now we know the spam is getting worse.......))
#36300299345 08/08/2007 11:40:05 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Yes, the spam was bad and the perpetrators got ignored, lets not waste this thread on them.
The Merovingian's questions cause some concern regarding location of the fields generators and exactly what form of energy. Obviously the imposter was unable or unwilling to release the information. Possible outcomes from knowledge of these facts would have to be looked into.

((PS1ON, where did you get that info from? A past LE or latest Zion Crit?))
#36300299382 08/08/2007 12:30:32 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.

((I hadn't had anyone on ignore until this event.  How pitiful.  I think I'm gonna be a little more easy with the ignore function now.))
#36300299388 08/08/2007 12:37:23 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.
Funny, that's about how many I wrote down to /ccr.
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#36300299393 08/08/2007 12:50:57 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

Not so much the spam annoyed the heck out of me, but the Machinist who kept coming in and turning off the lights in the room.  It's one thing to verbally disrupt a live event, but to VISUALLY disrupt a live event is beyond belief.  My jaw dropped.  If I were Rarebit I'd 86 that mofo so fast it would have made his head spin.  I mean, if it were up to me, you do that, you eff with my live events, and you are pretty much banned from the game.  You're outta here.

 God these are times when I wish this was a hostile server.  That *CENSORED* would have been on so many KOS lists his mind would reel.

 ((On edit:  I suppose it isn't too late to send in a /ccr.))

#36300299534 08/08/2007 16:08:52 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.
Normally there is just one permenent member of your Ignore list XD
#36300299575 08/08/2007 17:10:16 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((Wait, I'm confused... the Merovingian finds Morpheus's story about the Pods odd? I sense a pattern. First a big twist about reinsertion (that it isn't done), now one about extraction.))
Starschwar
#36300299627 08/08/2007 18:27:51 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((So who got put on ignore? :O))
#36300299636 08/08/2007 18:44:39 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

Rarebit wrote:

I think I put about five people on /ignore on both characters, which is probably some kind of record.
Welcome to Recursion!!!
#36300299693 08/08/2007 20:46:03 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

More reasons to wish I had enough space to fit a mainframe big enough to handle the Matrix feed on this rinky-dink ship... The conversation between the sim and Mon Seigneur le Merovingien is fascinating... I wonder if there's something wrong with it's programming, if it has no idea how the fusion process works.

((OOC: the way the dialouge was worded has me concerned. It tastes of the "Matrix-within-a-Matrix" theory, which really doesn't jive with the series. The only time something like that worked, IMNSHO, was in David Cronenberg's "eXistenZ". Pulling something like this would be a worse bait and switch than the Machines baiting-and-switching the Cypherites. Please don't think I'm bashing the event, though: It's just raised some red flags, and I could just be jumping at nothing. We'll see where this goes))

((Editted to add: Whee! 800 posts!))

#36300299706 08/08/2007 21:01:56 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
MatrixRefugee wrote:

the way the dialouge was worded has me concerned. It tastes of the "Matrix-within-a-Matrix" theory...


Oh really? I wasn't going to say anything here so as not to take away from this event, so I posted it else where. But yeah I noticed that too.
#36300299800 08/08/2007 22:33:16 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
You know, this still fits with a theory I voiced at an earlier event on Syntax.  Seems to me the General captured Morpheus on his way to 01 and has been keeping him prisoner all this time.  He used him to create that Sim but for whatever reason did not program the Sim with all of Morpheus' knowledge.  Maybe there wasn't enough memory space, maybe Morpheus resisted interrogation but either way I can't think who else this might be:



In any case, I love how a lot of things have been explained to us lately and I especially love how the explanations only ever raise new questions. 
#36300299833 08/09/2007 00:11:27 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
I have just gotten confirmation that the Merovingian is indeed on the right trail.
#36300299838 08/09/2007 00:33:00 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
The_Big_V wrote:
I have just gotten confirmation that the Merovingian is indeed on the right trail.


Explain, please.  I am curious to know why the Merv. doesn't believe that humans are used to power the machines and the simulation.
#36300300004 08/09/2007 07:03:38 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
MetaLogic wrote:
The_Big_V wrote:
I have just gotten confirmation that the Merovingian is indeed on the right trail.


Explain, please.  I am curious to know why the Merv. doesn't believe that humans are used to power the machines and the simulation.
I highly recommend you do the new crit if you have a Merv alt.  Its very interesting.
#36300300038 08/09/2007 08:00:18 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
(( Woah. I get the feeling this is leading up to a major revelation. I doubt it's the Matrix-within-a-Matrix concept, though; there are other explanations.

Heh, and Effy made me laugh again even without saying anything.

Incidentally, the dude in the room with the screen from the cinematic had better not be Morpheus. That doesn't look like his head. Looks more like Neo's to me, but time will tell. ))
#36300300164 08/09/2007 10:53:25 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
((This event ftmfw! So many questions....))
#36300300752 08/10/2007 06:26:22 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07


Why the interest in the real now Merovingian?  Is the man in the picture Morpheus?  Neo?  or... The Assassin?


SOOOO Many questions.....   ((Head swells to the brink of explosion!))
#36300302861 08/13/2007 08:33:36 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07

 (((Since Gitano (evil overlord of all spelling mistakes) has already posted twice on this thread, I realise I have likely made a mistake. But here goes anyway...

 

 Merovingian: "......I hope they proove...fruitful."

Proove? Is that an American spelling which I am not familiar with?

May be this is meant to signify the Merv's particular dialect, or was that a typo from the god-like Rarebit? ))

#36300302918 08/13/2007 10:52:07 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
That's a typo, silly. =p
#36300302973 08/13/2007 12:06:37 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
That's a typo, silly. =p
No, no, I refuse to believe that Rarebit made an error!

...you're no longer perfect in my eyes, Rare. :O
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#36300303146 08/13/2007 18:11:38 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Actually, in a vain attempt to avoid such titles as 'evil overlord of all spelling mistakes', I deliberately didn't point that out.  Oh well. 
#36300303241 08/13/2007 23:50:53 Re:[8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
Rarebit wrote:
That's a typo, silly. =p

Rare, Nooooooo!!!!!

I gave you the "out"! It was already set up for you: All you had to do was grab the branch!

Still, I'm glad that we can all be human. Let's all grow from this experience. SMILEY

#36300303845 08/15/2007 09:18:33 [8.1.4] Wonderful stories of power and energy - Recursion - 8/6/07
This was one of my favorite events, and I had no part in it beyond sitting near a wall and listening to two great characters discuss things. Great job Rare SMILEY