26 posts · 2007-06-12 20:04:19 to 2008-02-29 11:46:40
Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now. In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.
You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there.Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now. In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.
Fatmop wrote:This ideas whack dawg.You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there.Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now. In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.
Like I said in Ask a Dev thread, allowing us to load two hypers of choice will make everyone. It will help hackers because everybody and their grannies won't have hyperdeflect running and it will give more complete defenses which can adapt better to different situations to the other players.
I always thought we should be able to stack either Deflect or Sense with Dodge or Block. Always felt that combo made the most sense.Considering how clothing buffs tend to work, this way seems to make the most sense. Although having the choice of any two would be very nice.
This ideas whack dawg.Not really constructive criticism!
krytical wrote:That's not real talk, son. I like it.Fatmop wrote:This ideas whack dawg.You could always surprise them with Vector, the fight will just go downhill from there.Nah, hackers will remain just as strong as they are now. In a situation where you've got hackers running around, any reasonably intelligent person will throw up hyper deflect and then whatever other hyper he expects to need most anyway.
Like I said in Ask a Dev thread, allowing us to load two hypers of choice will make everyone. It will help hackers because everybody and their grannies won't have hyperdeflect running and it will give more complete defenses which can adapt better to different situations to the other players.
I always thought we should be able to stack either Deflect or Sense with Dodge or Block. Always felt that combo made the most sense.
The ability to stack two hypers of choice is the best and fairest solution, it also adds another element of strategy/skill where the individual player makes the difference etc.
If there are balancing issues a work around could suggest that the net defense buff is different given a stacked use or an individual use ie use one hyper for 5% buff but 2 hypers give 3% each etc???
I would personally prefer to make them all exclusive from each other. This would force you to choose carefully which you have loaded and also provide a bit of boost to Hackers in that not everyone would be running around with it turned on.
IMO this is great. But i see it helping Hackers abit and hindering those *CENSORED* knife throwers.
I would personally prefer to make them all exclusive from each other but due to technically issues that are not currently. This would force you to choose carefully which you have loaded and also provide a bit of boost to Hackers in that not everyone would be running around with it turned on.
Please. For the love of God. Please fix this.
Everyone has a defense against hacker (including hackers). Hackers only have a defense against one tree at a time (and other hackers). All the trees are pretty balanced. Except EVERYONE has the Hyper Deflect ab running all the time, with all kinds of Viral resistance/defense clothing available. It is real easy for, say, a Duelist to load HyperDeflect, a ton of Viral Resistance clothing, and pretty much ignore hackers in PvP. Or worse, go after us for the easy kill.
If it helps with the technicalities of balancing these Hyper abs, you can always make more Hacker attacks IL only (w/o IL penalties, of course). Then, hackers won't be so 'dangerous' in free fire. After that, it's easy to justify making the Hypers exclusive.
Best case scenario for defenses? Make each class defensible against itself. Transmit Virus ab gives increased Viral Defense; Martial Arts Expertise Ab gives increased Melee Defense; Firearms Expert ab gives increased Ballistic Defense; Spy Style ab gives increased Thrown Defense. Then, make the Hypers exclusive so that we have to adjust with each enemy we face.
Either that, or give us the ability to collect more than one stat hack at a time so we can restat on-demand. Because being a hacker sucks now that everyone understands how to load up on defense. With plenty of stat hacks at our command, we can change loadouts as often as we want, and keep the enemy guessing.
I would personally prefer to make them all exclusive from each other but due to technically issues that are not currently. This would force you to choose carefully which you have loaded and also provide a bit of boost to Hackers in that not everyone would be running around with it turned on.
9mmfu wrote:I agree with this as well, get used to it people we were never meant to have 2 Hyper defenses active at the same time to begin with.I would personally prefer to make them all exclusive from each other. This would force you to choose carefully which you have loaded and also provide a bit of boost to Hackers in that not everyone would be running around with it turned on.
Same.
Lock this thread. Reason: Necro.
Even if the topic is "legal" through current issues. -_-
Another wannabe Mod.
Stop spamming every thread, pls, kk?
On topic:
Okay, the proposed offset for this change was the additional buffs to some of the patcher abilities. Okay, that's cool, I've used the new buffs and they're not half bad.
But!! They don't stack with the hyper-abs. At all. So, either you get the hyper of your choice, or you can go with the buffs that need to be refreshed every 5 minutes. And, of the 5 buff abilities that were changed, only two of them are usable at one time.
So. In other words, I am experiencing much less defense-wise, and generally getting killed faster as a result.
Any thoughts? AM I missing something? Should I conduct a focus-group study on changing clothes during pvp?
