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Vectors RPvP sign up thread!
379 posts · 2007-02-22 17:21:01 to 2009-06-09 01:52:30
Zerotolerance wrote:
great ideas w4r...I'd say use RP to develop tension with other Factions. If you're a Faction leader, contact the Faction Leader of another faction and formally discuss a desire to bring RPvP between the opposing Faction. If anything, this should promote binding Factions together. If you RP together, you build up your reputation however you want through the RP and RPvP. Especially if you approach RP fights with a certain theme. Say a faction of Mervs is staring down a faction of Zion... Perhaps the Zion contacted a Merovingian operative to acquire information... It would make sense that the Zion operative has an escort -- perhaps her First Mate and another officer. Perhaps, then, the Merv has one companion and yet you don't know about the two MKT's in sneak. This brings the total numbers to a 4 v 3. Are the Zion outnumbered? Yes. Outclassed? Perhaps not; this is decided through the encounter and the way it plays out. Perhaps with RP you can avoid a fight altogether.
Which brings up one other idea I had. Perhaps limit the number of times you can recon for participation in a scene? Add the edge of *needing* to survive? Take death a bit more seriously.
Example One:
1.) Faction leader ManatikLuniak is contacted by ECW420 and Madbent of Morpheus' Legacy.
2.) They want to have an ecounter in Westview. Specifically, in Guinness Lake.
3.) The Merv tells the Zion captains to meet him in the alley outside the grocery store. Along with any other terms he might have.
4.) Zion shows up with three people.
5.) Manatik is there with one other Merv from Dark Evolutions. Another two in sneak are waiting in case Manatik needs to call in help.
6.) Discussion goes on about whatever tension you'd like to create. You have to RP this and figure out why you'd need to even talk to a Merv in the first place. Perhaps you just want to kill him? Heh. As a Machine, I can justify his deletion. Not sure what kind of motivation you can find.
7.) Fight or flee. Or take the fight mobile. Move it across that district, chasing each other down.Example Two:
1.) Faction leader Bayamos contacts Faction leader ShadowSK (!). He suggests a MA faction fight in International. He sets up a scenario in the underground Dojo in Murasaki. Looks cool; nice oriental theme. Systematic Chaos all load a Martial Arts build even if not hacked towards it. The goal is really to have fun. He asks for conditions, but suggests that all the EPN come with MA loads as well, so that even if they aren't MA they have to load it.
2.) The E Pluribus Neo walk into the dojo as the Machines are sparring. Hostile words are exchanged and they bust out into a fight.
3.) The fight carries on, with fairly even numbers, underground. Say a 4v4 or even a 6v6. But the International district combined with the Martial Arts loadouts provides a good RPvP theme.
Yeah there was a lot of good idea's thrown out at the gathering last night, we got alot of things sorted. I like your idea war, with the growing tension between 2 factions.
Zerotolerance wrote:
Guh. It's ideal, other than the preparation seems to put me off a tad. I'm all for organizing something to begin with, but after that, I feel it should flow and occur naturally.I'd say use RP to develop tension with other Factions. If you're a Faction leader, contact the Faction Leader of another faction and formally discuss a desire to bring RPvP between the opposing Faction. If anything, this should promote binding Factions together. If you RP together, you build up your reputation however you want through the RP and RPvP. Especially if you approach RP fights with a certain theme. Say a faction of Mervs is staring down a faction of Zion... Perhaps the Zion contacted a Merovingian operative to acquire information... It would make sense that the Zion operative has an escort -- perhaps her First Mate and another officer. Perhaps, then, the Merv has one companion and yet you don't know about the two MKT's in sneak. This brings the total numbers to a 4 v 3. Are the Zion outnumbered? Yes. Outclassed? Perhaps not; this is decided through the encounter and the way it plays out. Perhaps with RP you can avoid a fight altogether.
Which brings up one other idea I had. Perhaps limit the number of times you can recon for participation in a scene? Add the edge of *needing* to survive? Take death a bit more seriously.
Example One:
1.) Faction leader ManatikLuniak is contacted by ECW420 and Madbent of Morpheus' Legacy.
2.) They want to have an ecounter in Westview. Specifically, in Guinness Lake.
3.) The Merv tells the Zion captains to meet him in the alley outside the grocery store. Along with any other terms he might have.
4.) Zion shows up with three people.
5.) Manatik is there with one other Merv from Dark Evolutions. Another two in sneak are waiting in case Manatik needs to call in help.
6.) Discussion goes on about whatever tension you'd like to create. You have to RP this and figure out why you'd need to even talk to a Merv in the first place. Perhaps you just want to kill him? Heh. As a Machine, I can justify his deletion. Not sure what kind of motivation you can find.
7.) Fight or flee. Or take the fight mobile. Move it across that district, chasing each other down.Example Two:
1.) Faction leader Bayamos contacts Faction leader ShadowSK (!). He suggests a MA faction fight in International. He sets up a scenario in the underground Dojo in Murasaki. Looks cool; nice oriental theme. Systematic Chaos all load a Martial Arts build even if not hacked towards it. The goal is really to have fun. He asks for conditions, but suggests that all the EPN come with MA loads as well, so that even if they aren't MA they have to load it.
2.) The E Pluribus Neo walk into the dojo as the Machines are sparring. Hostile words are exchanged and they bust out into a fight.
3.) The fight carries on, with fairly even numbers, underground. Say a 4v4 or even a 6v6. But the International district combined with the Martial Arts loadouts provides a good RPvP theme.
PBlade wrote:
Agreed, but different factions can take different approaches to the situation. If someone wants to make it more intricate that's fine, as long as they take into consideration the fact that the responibility is theirs to make sure they have plans for how it may play out.
Guh. It's ideal, other than the preparation seems to put me off a tad. I'm all for organizing something to begin with, but after that, I feel it should flow and occur naturally.
Agreed, but different factions can take different approaches to the situation. If someone wants to make it more intricate that's fine, as long as they take into consideration the fact that the responibility is theirs to make sure they have plans for how it may play out.
Aight, I dunno what it is, but I know Yasamuu organized it... Xitem - Machines Sign me up while I go read about it.
Hmmmmm, ever thought of a ref? 
deviljonny wrote:
Hmmmmm, ever thought of a ref?Ill be a ref !
Actually, I think that in cases of a mass event, a moderator(s) should be in place to make sure people who are not following whatever perameters set with RPvP and the event itself.
The challenge is this:
1) Finding someone impartial enough to not abuse power as a mod
2) How to actually impliment one on a event-to-event basis
Shadow Griever wrote:
Actually, I think that in cases of a mass event, a moderator(s) should be in place to make sure people who are not following whatever perameters set with RPvP and the event itself.
The challenge is this:
1) Finding someone impartial enough to not abuse power as a mod
2) How to actually impliment one on a event-to-event basis
i see vector olympics drama in 01 happenning again.
Apologies I dont log in on thursdays so havent been able to attend any meetings.
I like the ideas I see here and the encouragement to rp in general seems very promising. Overall I take what Pblade suggests as very important, the more organisation and effort that needs to be put into an event the less likely it is to happen or to keep happening.
We need mechanisms for arranging events that dont require a lot of ooc work and organisation...the great benefit of vector is that it is a real immersive environment and we need to play upto that.
Warblade hit on one of the best mechanisms in his excellent posts in the NR section, his records of his rivalries etc can be expanded to arrange events and happenings (sadly my own artistic talents come up short here but..) every factrion has one or two gifted people either at a graphic or story teling level and they can set the scene, a factions activity can be displayed on the the events boards and future 'missions' can be suggested with a few key elements leaked as to time and location etc....if done well this can be both disguised or coded info, visual cues or blantant...ah e will meet silver at X on the 1st of may 13.00.... factions can respond in their own manner putting an evolving slant on what happens next to build a sequence of events shaped by everyone.
a few surveilance pictures can also soon indicate an imminent kindnapping attempt or a hit or a characetr with some useful infomation etc to help... (arranging a character to just stand around with a description contianing clues could be arranged as well etc... a family of Reame01...99 etc that we all watch for?) Luggerbles when the eventually appear will be very useful here as we can determine a server level importance to certain items and hopefully someone with some story magic can put an rp spin on things.....
Something that I've always thought was a good idea was "Live Missions" involving different orgs. We all have done far too many assassination missions, but what if the mission was against another team?
Example:
Mission: Assassinate Twaggy
Machine operatives recieve notice that the mission will be given out at a predetermined day/time (when Twaggy can be logged in) by a third party. They assemble a team of 6 and gather at a remote location.
Twaggy, being the popular stud he is, has a team of Merovingian operatives ready to defend him at a secure location someplace. The machines are given his location and 30 minutes to take out the target.
The third party stays on site and times the event (like a ref as suggested above). Maybe a team of Zion operatives drop out of the sky (like mission NPCs do) and try to stop the machines enroute. Machines kill him, they win, Mervs defend him, they win.
As you might imagine you could design many missions based on this format. This could also be very impromtu as well because all you would need would be two willing teams and a plan. I would, of course, be willing to organize such an event if there is interest.
/discuss
I think that sounds really good..especially since, as you said, we could make alot of these by changing the situation and objectives.
Sign Me Up...
Spadz wrote:
I'm very impressed to see Vector putting their "e-differences" behind and getting along to sort it all out infact I wanna help you all out in my own way too, during these RPVP events I will also be on the look out for factions who are doing a great job at the battles and in the role playing, as a reward for been a good sport of a faction how does your own advert on air on Exile Radio sound? to advertise your faction for recruitment, you can even select a member of your faction or you can have me doing the voice over for it, though I'm sure you would love to have your own members do the voice overs of the ads. So there it is, a nice lil reward that is open to any faction (this does not mean you suck up to me during RPVP or come after me every 2 seconds to get my attention. I will be there PVPin, role playing and observing for my own end for XRN and for RP).
Stop trying to appeal to my vanity, don't change a fact you used me as an example.....no wait never mind I like it cause you appealed to my vanity...wow almost forgot who I am, vain is the name of the game you know? lol I kid I love this idea though and hey if you want me to be the first red pill pinyata then sure I will do it lol I'm really liking the ideas people are coming up with, it brings me hope for not only Vector but MxO.Something that I've always thought was a good idea was "Live Missions" involving different orgs. We all have done far too many assassination missions, but what if the mission was against another team?
Example:
Mission: Assassinate Twaggy
Machine operatives recieve notice that the mission will be given out at a predetermined day/time (when Twaggy can be logged in) by a third party. They assemble a team of 6 and gather at a remote location.
Twaggy, being the popular stud he is, has a team of Merovingian operatives ready to defend him at a secure location someplace. The machines are given his location and 30 minutes to take out the target.
The third party stays on site and times the event (like a ref as suggested above). Maybe a team of Zion operatives drop out of the sky (like mission NPCs do) and try to stop the machines enroute. Machines kill him, they win, Mervs defend him, they win.
As you might imagine you could design many missions based on this format. This could also be very impromtu as well because all you would need would be two willing teams and a plan. I would, of course, be willing to organize such an event if there is interest.
/discuss
I'm very impressed to see Vector putting their "e-differences" behind and getting along to sort it all out infact I wanna help you all out in my own way too, during these RPVP events I will also be on the look out for factions who are doing a great job at the battles and in the role playing, as a reward for been a good sport of a faction how does your own advert on air on Exile Radio sound? to advertise your faction for recruitment, you can even select a member of your faction or you can have me doing the voice over for it, though I'm sure you would love to have your own members do the voice overs of the ads. So there it is, a nice lil reward that is open to any faction (this does not mean you suck up to me during RPVP or come after me every 2 seconds to get my attention. I will be there PVPin, role playing and observing for my own end for XRN and for RP).
Hey Twaggy how much for a dedicated CQPD advertising?
That's a great idea Twaggy, and novel, love the fact that it's not the usual $ or sak bandanna being offered 
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The only issue I can see with some of these scenarios though is that they aren't of a big enough scale. They're great for drama between two or possibly three factions, and should definitely be pursued....but there were what, 11 or more factions involved in this? The whole 'one event per week' thing shouldn't be limited to a couple of groups, or it defeats the whole purpose of getting involved in it.
I'm not saying that these ideas shouldn't be done. They sound like a lot of fun, but I think they should be done in addition to the weekly events that the involved factions are supposed to set up.
.The only issue I can see with some of these scenarios though is that they aren't of a big enough scale. They're great for drama between two or possibly three factions, and should definitely be pursued....but there were what, 11 or more factions involved in this? The whole 'one event per week' thing shouldn't be limited to a couple of groups, or it defeats the whole purpose of getting involved in it.
I'm not saying that these ideas shouldn't be done. They sound like a lot of fun, but I think they should be done in addition to the weekly events that the involved factions are supposed to set up.
Sex is good.
The Kwestyon is back, at a phonebooth near you. What's up Smoke?
Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I try to RPvP on my lowbies, particularly when I'm being chased but I get such illuminating comments as:
P3LON whispers>rp is ment for carebear servers where u belong
...Or words to that effect.
Good times.
Im In!
I am interested.... Its about time someone takes these sort of things seriously...
http://mxoterminal.com/index.php
Everyone look to the player events section here until we have one set specifically for RPvP, and post any ideas you have for events or look for interest in the events, it's time we got the ball rolling. Seems there was an event just this past friday so hopefully we can get things snowballing from here.
Remember don't look to others to get things sorted, if you have an idea discuss it don't sit on it.
Kwestyon01 wrote:
The Kwestyon is back, at a phonebooth near you. What's up Smoke?OMG MY LOVER! LOL wasup my billionaire brotha! Haven't seen you in a minute!
yes yas there was an event that the MCSS organised and a few turned up, looks like the enjoyed, it was part of their ongoing storyline and am sure they will advertise again.
Ian
I'm down with some RPvP, Gonna have to wait tell im 50 tho which should be in a week
which should be in a weekWb then 0bs i guess.
Good_Game_son wrote:
hes a bit more hostile
Wb then 0bs i guess.
hes a bit more hostile
Nah im not more anything. At least I hope not *looks around*
Dark Evo will host the next one, not this week/weekend but next, details (for those who are interested) on the terminal site.
Unless someone else wants to step up?
Unless someone else wants to step up?
dark evo who? 
lmao *kisses*
Demoana wrote:
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
SajghO wrote:
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
deviljonny wrote:
Good_Game_son wrote:And zion RoflzWb then 0bs i guess.
hes a bit more hostile
oranos wrote:
SajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
SajghO wrote:
oranos wrote:I was replyingSajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
oranos wrote:
The question is....what are you wearing underneath it?
SajghO wrote:oranos wrote:I was replyingSajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
The question is....what are you wearing underneath it?
Demoana wrote:
oranos wrote:A t-shirt and jeans on weekdays. A dress on weekends.SajghO wrote:oranos wrote:I was replyingSajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
The question is....what are you wearing underneath it?
oranos wrote:
Demoana wrote:I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid.oranos wrote:A t-shirt and jeans on weekdays. A dress on weekends.SajghO wrote:oranos wrote:I was replyingSajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
The question is....what are you wearing underneath it?
Bayamo wrote:
Or at the very least a Unicorn Riding Fairy.
oranos wrote:I'm a Dragon Elf KnightDemoana wrote:I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid.oranos wrote:A t-shirt and jeans on weekdays. A dress on weekends.SajghO wrote:oranos wrote:I was replyingSajghO wrote:Demoana wrote:lmao *kisses*
heh, still love u 2 *more kisses*
*I take my Wizard's Robe off at Demoana and Saj*
SPAM?
The question is....what are you wearing underneath it?
Or at the very least a Unicorn Riding Fairy.Stop the spam!
(( There is a lot of good points/ideas brought up here, lets get back on track people))
PWNT!
plz lets stay on topic otherwise the devs will unsticky this thread (and maybe lock it)...
i went to the other forums but i dont know why we are not using this post as a development thread...
we def need to assign some RPPvP Dev Leads so they can push this initiative into results.
first off the meaning of RPPvP needs to be identitied as well as it's rules of engagement (obvious answer but its necessary so everyone knows exactly what is being done). moreover, the hostilities need to be defined as in who is suppossed to attack who, once that is settled i think we can move on to the next topic to be developed (RPPvP Zones).
So, RPPvP to me is: Role Playing Player vs Player. That means PvP should only be used with an RP theme ( i.e. Zion vs Merv, Cyphs OR Mervs vs. Zion, Mechs ). When in a RPPvP zone you should only attack those you are suppossed to. ( i.e. mervs vs zion total oppossite of Mechs vs zion )
((Did that make sense?))
So what does RPPvP mean to you and would you actually follow the rules of it?
Ah...yes, too right, sorry bout that. I get distracted easily 
The reason we decided to use the other forums as a development thread (as far as I know) was to minimize the occurence of a) spam, and b) party crashers. I don't care, can talk about it here, just seems like it's lost in the multitudes of posts.
As for a set 'zion vs mervs', or other limited roles...I can see your point that people should be consistent in their rp, but I hope you're not saying that they should limit themselves to the generic stereotypes set by their orgs. That would severely limit their character (not to mention faction) development. Sure, keep it consistent, but let people determine who/what they fight against, based on their own backgrounds. It makes it more fun if we can't just say 'oh, they're zion so of course they will truce with machines and fight mervs'....in an rp sense that would make sense, but there are ways to make exceptions to these 'rules'. Of course the majority will most likely fall into the stereotypes (otherwise they wouldn't be stereotypes), but don't shoehorn them into a rigid definition of what they can & can't do in regards to their rp - there would be no point to having different factions if they were all the same.
But back to the other bit...yeah DE will be hosting an event, most likely next friday (sorry I'm drunk right now -yay- so there are no more details atm). If you want to join in, you're more than welcome to. If we get people who show up specifically to mess it up (again), well, that sucks, but we're trying to take that into account.
If you're interested in coming....well, you can email me in game, or pm me here, or, hell, come to our site and pm me there. I'll be around. Hehe maybe not til after monday though.
The reason we decided to use the other forums as a development thread (as far as I know) was to minimize the occurence of a) spam, and b) party crashers. I don't care, can talk about it here, just seems like it's lost in the multitudes of posts.
As for a set 'zion vs mervs', or other limited roles...I can see your point that people should be consistent in their rp, but I hope you're not saying that they should limit themselves to the generic stereotypes set by their orgs. That would severely limit their character (not to mention faction) development. Sure, keep it consistent, but let people determine who/what they fight against, based on their own backgrounds. It makes it more fun if we can't just say 'oh, they're zion so of course they will truce with machines and fight mervs'....in an rp sense that would make sense, but there are ways to make exceptions to these 'rules'. Of course the majority will most likely fall into the stereotypes (otherwise they wouldn't be stereotypes), but don't shoehorn them into a rigid definition of what they can & can't do in regards to their rp - there would be no point to having different factions if they were all the same.
But back to the other bit...yeah DE will be hosting an event, most likely next friday (sorry I'm drunk right now -yay- so there are no more details atm). If you want to join in, you're more than welcome to. If we get people who show up specifically to mess it up (again), well, that sucks, but we're trying to take that into account.
If you're interested in coming....well, you can email me in game, or pm me here, or, hell, come to our site and pm me there. I'll be around. Hehe maybe not til after monday though.
hmm, i wish i could jack in and check it out, i hope ppl take some nice pics for the audience watching from outside the game.
Yas, Sachiko would love to participate.
/bowhead
/sign.