Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

#36300140383 01/13/2007 14:13:47 Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Yes the perma DE is back here I post some pics. They are taken after I have tried to refresh my abilities, clothing and buffs. Yes even after reloading the tree.

According to my calculations I should have 84% acc bonus. No wait. The matrix is nerfing me so I have to learn math all over again...

But seriously can we get a fix on this for the N-th time?? 9mmfu will want details so I give him this: I just pvped normally and dueled after. Before I dueled my DE wore off and I refreshed my buffs. The duel was lost flawlessly and I just noticed that my accuracy wouldnt go over 127 and then BAM I took the pics of the bonuses after trying repeatedly to refresh everything possible as said above.

Edit: If you can't see the combined number %age its 69%. Supposed to be 84%.

#36300140401 01/13/2007 14:38:44 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

noooooo, i thought perma DE was gone forever!!! uggh now it looks like its back, hopefully it can get fixed for good this time. i havent noticed if its happened to me yet, but ill be on the look out for it now.

#36300141086 01/14/2007 14:57:36 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

zomg ew fix it now! >.<

#36300153242 01/30/2007 05:33:59 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Meh.. I have a familiar problem with my attributes, but I don't think it's perma DE.

When I upgraded my stats for Hacker (belief and reason) the maximum % bonus I could get was 50% with 25 Attribute pts. The last 5 were "lost" or a buffer for downgrades whatsoever, I still don't know where the last 5 went to.

Now that I'm back at Martial Arts it's... weird. The Maximum I can get with 30 attr pts are 50%. But... 30 * 2 = 60 ain't it? There are 10% gone off, everywhere: accuracy, defense, damage boni.
With what I managed to get with my Hacker stats I should already have reached my 50% with 25 attribute pts, but with MA I can only reach 50% with 30 pts? What the hell is wrong there?

1. Where's the maximum of 60% in both.
2. Why is there a 50% max once at 25 pts and then at 30 pts? (Hint: Hacker and MA both need belief but it still changed from 50% with 25 to 50% with 30 pts when I stat hacked)

I need an explanation. -_-

#36300153343 01/30/2007 08:37:22 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Meh.. I have a familiar problem with my attributes, but I don't think it's perma DE.

When I upgraded my stats for Hacker (belief and reason) the maximum % bonus I could get was 50% with 25 Attribute pts. The last 5 were "lost" or a buffer for downgrades whatsoever, I still don't know where the last 5 went to.

Now that I'm back at Martial Arts it's... weird. The Maximum I can get with 30 attr pts are 50%. But... 30 * 2 = 60 ain't it? There are 10% gone off, everywhere: accuracy, defense, damage boni.
With what I managed to get with my Hacker stats I should already have reached my 50% with 25 attribute pts, but with MA I can only reach 50% with 30 pts? What the hell is wrong there?

1. Where's the maximum of 60% in both.
2. Why is there a 50% max once at 25 pts and then at 30 pts? (Hint: Hacker and MA both need belief but it still changed from 50% with 25 to 50% with 30 pts when I stat hacked)

I need an explanation. -_-

You only receive a bonus 2% for Stats above 5 per the design.

As far as the number not adding up in Leo's screen shots it does appear to be something wrong however I would ask did you /bug the problem with details of what happened preceeding you finding this problem?

#36300153463 01/30/2007 10:57:08 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Ok I can try to remember since this was a while ago lol. I could simply try to die and recreate the effect if it now just happens after dying.

#36300153485 01/30/2007 11:30:17 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

9mmfu wrote:

You only receive a bonus 2% for Stats above 5 per the design.

Mhmm.. then why did I reach 50% with 26 reason and not (as it seems to be supposed to be) 42%?

#36300153507 01/30/2007 11:39:12 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

GoDGiVeR wrote:

9mmfu wrote:
You only receive a bonus 2% for Stats above 5 per the design.

Mhmm.. then why did I reach 50% with 26 reason and not (as it seems to be supposed to be) 42%?

Screen shot of the bonus panel showing this would help a bit. If a given Stat was 26 the Influence Bonuses from that Stat would be 42% or should be. If you find you are getting more from it for some reason please /bug it with details.

#36300153521 01/30/2007 11:50:26 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

9mmfu wrote:

GoDGiVeR wrote:
9mmfu wrote:
You only receive a bonus 2% for Stats above 5 per the design.

Mhmm.. then why did I reach 50% with 26 reason and not (as it seems to be supposed to be) 42%?
Screen shot of the bonus panel showing this would help a bit. If a given Stat was 26 the Influence Bonuses from that Stat would be 42% or should be. If you find you are getting more from it for some reason please /bug it with details.

Next time I see it I will, but as I said I already stat hacked and got confused by it. But thanks 9mm.

#36300156385 02/02/2007 12:21:12 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Dam i hate that Bug its its back "*CENSORED*" if its not "Phew..."

#36300156604 02/02/2007 17:54:34 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

i do think that this has been stated way way way back but after it was ment to be fixed but people just ignored the thread /pffft u was told!

#36300176732 02/28/2007 16:23:29 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Some day ago I was casually pvping and HJ around mara C for 20 -25 minutes without dying and while in air I suddenly notice a DE timer go over 20 seconds on my screen and just as fast dissapear. I didn't react fast enought to take a pic but *CENSORED*? Not that the DE affects my play or anything.....but still *CENSORED* =S ?

#36300178889 03/03/2007 07:58:24 Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

I've had that once Leo, guess its a glitch in the system. Quick to the Glitch Kitty!

#36300224267 04/25/2007 15:26:49 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

I could get some numbers for this issue aswell, because it still happens though I have to admit really randomply in pvp. I will see if ./suicide can cause this or regular deaths or more than one deaths etc. Any volunteer for some help??

#36300224678 04/26/2007 04:09:45 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

I second this, I just had the perma DE bug this morn before servers wnet offline. I had the icon and everthing showing, I had to relog to get rid of it.

#36300227680 04/30/2007 14:05:49 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

still isnt fixed

#36300227691 04/30/2007 14:23:18 Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

this post is also evidence proving Swimming steals The Colony's faction members

#36300227752 04/30/2007 16:03:00 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

I haven't had Perma DE, I've had STACKING DE though.

#36300228150 05/01/2007 06:32:44 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

Just got it yesterday 3 times. To test it just pvp a while and die a couple of time and then wait for DE to go away. Now refresh ur style buffs etc and see tht the numbers will be wrong no matter what you do until u relog. I sometimes even waited lying on the ground until DE is gone and the bug is still there. Sometimes DE just goes away gradually as it says but definetely not always.

#36300228483 05/01/2007 15:47:41 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

The only thing that should happen is that the DE timer is refreshed. You should not have stacked penalties and the penalties that are in place should be cleared once the DE timer is completed.

Sounds pretty broken. Will look into it.

#36300228524 05/01/2007 17:19:45 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

9mmfu wrote:

The only thing that should happen is that the DE timer is refreshed. You should not have stacked penalties and the penalties that are in place should be cleared once the DE timer is completed.
Sounds pretty broken. Will look into it.

I'll take a pic next time I pvp that lengthy. I mean.. doing 257 EFK to someone with 20 MDR is pretty bugged to me >_>

#36300228697 05/02/2007 01:45:59 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

OMG if tht had happened to me I wudda quit the game for few weeks... luckily it hasn't....yet...

#36300266855 06/22/2007 11:21:57 Re:Perma invisible DE is back, upgraded better than ever

I got a new screeny. I just noticed that my damage was about 30 pts lower than usual. This is about 2 hours after the last time I pvped and died.

When you look closely you'll see that something is missing....like about 20%...

Here is one for those that don't want to take out their calculators:

Usually when you add something with something you get more and not less. In this case 50% + 10% + 2% should not equal less than 50% -_-