CQ revamp

I was thinking the other day when I was gaming.  What if the CQ system was revamped to work for players that are trying to advance there experience against RSI with high/very high CQ numbers.  What I am saying is if a RSI that has a low CQ level could do better with gaining CQ by killing a RSI with CQ class level higher then their own.  For instance killing a Class Level 4 RSI with CQ levels of > (6000) CQ would get you (5) CQ points.

Class Level 1  RSI (0-1000) = 2 CQ points

Class Level 2  RSI (1000-3000) = 3 CQ points

Class Level 3  RSI (3000-6000) = 4 CQ points

Class Level 4  RSI > (6000) = 5 CQ points

 Now these numbers are just an example to give you a visual, but you see what I mean?  I know that might cause a little more work for the DEVs, but hope you could see the benefits in it.  What are yall feelings? 

Tracking cq's should be a transient thing...at each server reboot all players cq totals are taken, subtracted from the previous survey and a top 20 list of the most aggressive operatives on each server for that period can be published..... aside from a database query no coding needed.

As an extenstion later perhaps an ingame organisation rep can be queried to supply the top 10 currently logged operatives from this list, he can issue a named token which reads along the lines of eliminate this threat and teach them to know their place etc, when the player gets a cq from that player the token activates and can be traded for some money or experience etc????? One token for each player on the list can be generated every 12 hours etc so the same person isnt besieged (although as these are inevitably the most dedicated pvpers they will probably enjoy the challenge). Targetting a player as an identified threat is probably fairly in keeping with the storyline as well so it would fit at an rp level and make measured pvp logical. 

Tracking cq's should be a transient thing...at each server reboot all players cq totals are taken, subtracted from the previous survey and a top 20 list of the most aggressive operatives on each server for that period can be published..... aside from a database query no coding needed.

As an extenstion later perhaps an ingame organisation rep can be queried to supply the top 10 currently logged operatives from this list, he can issue a named token which reads along the lines of eliminate this threat and teach them to know their place etc, when the player gets a cq from that player the token activates and can be traded for some money or experience etc????? One token for each player on the list can be generated every 12 hours etc so the same person isnt besieged (although as these are inevitably the most dedicated pvpers they will probably enjoy the challenge). Targetting a player as an identified threat is probably fairly in keeping with the storyline as well so it would fit at an rp level and make measured pvp logical. 

All sounds good in theory. However, I couldn't condone such a system untill 99% of the bugs/exploits are fixed, and a system for tracking players under suspicion of exploiting had been implemented. The reasoning  is that adding such a system that raises the bragging rights bar another couple nothces would only result in even more widley spread usage of bugs/exploits especially since SOE virtually has no way to tell who is doing what/when.

I could very much see a system of this nature adding a much more dynamic, purposeful, rewarding reason to PVP, just not at this time.

Tracking cq's should be a transient thing...at each server reboot all players cq totals are taken, subtracted from the previous survey and a top 20 list of the most aggressive operatives on each server for that period can be published..... aside from a database query no coding needed.

As an extenstion later perhaps an ingame organisation rep can be queried to supply the top 10 currently logged operatives from this list, he can issue a named token which reads along the lines of eliminate this threat and teach them to know their place etc, when the player gets a cq from that player the token activates and can be traded for some money or experience etc????? One token for each player on the list can be generated every 12 hours etc so the same person isnt besieged (although as these are inevitably the most dedicated pvpers they will probably enjoy the challenge). Targetting a player as an identified threat is probably fairly in keeping with the storyline as well so it would fit at an rp level and make measured pvp logical. 

cant the CQ's be applyed to something?  like you got the need 100rep to go to Hallways... so the rep is applyed

would be awsome to buy something and the buffs depend on your CQ's you know

deviljonny wrote:

would be awsome to buy something and the buffs depend on your CQ's you know

Lol I'd like to see the buffs on the coat Pharao gets that way ^^

9mmFU...is there any chance at all for us to see something about the CQ in a update someday...or is it just another dream?

Website ranking board.



Simple as.

I asked Rarebit about this at Fan Faire, as I recalled he mentioned something about it.

Again, the responsiblity lies with the web team if I remember correctly.

Which is...Yeah great news.

>_>

cloudwolf wrote:

Website ranking board.



Simple as.

I asked Rarebit about this at Fan Faire, as I recalled he mentioned something about it.

Again, the responsiblity lies with the web team if I remember correctly.

Which is...Yeah great news.

>_>

or why not make a CQ Store/Shop

FM-1500 Cost: 50k CQ points

Blue Headlamp Cost: 10K CQ points

several other MMO games have these types of token and have a 'store/shop' to trade them in.  I know id rather kill 5K for a special item rather than mission to death for them.

or why not make a CQ Store/Shop

FM-1500 Cost: 50k CQ points

Blue Headlamp Cost: 10K CQ points

several other MMO games have these types of token and have a 'store/shop' to trade them in.  I know id rather kill 5K for a special item rather than mission to death for them.

give us a new cq count....

and 5000 would be for a FM or something....

or why not make a CQ Store/Shop

FM-1500 Cost: 50k CQ points

Blue Headlamp Cost: 10K CQ points

several other MMO games have these types of token and have a 'store/shop' to trade them in.  I know id rather kill 5K for a special item rather than mission to death for them.

If your thinking about them sorta CQ's the game will be dead before anyone ever got to that for a fm-1500 The person with the most CQ in the game doesnt even have close to that.

To My Knowledge...

CQ Leader Pharaoh420nels - 29k Syntax <Exploits> - Cyph.

MXOMastatec wrote:

or why not make a CQ Store/Shop

FM-1500 Cost: 50k CQ points

Blue Headlamp Cost: 10K CQ points

several other MMO games have these types of token and have a 'store/shop' to trade them in.  I know id rather kill 5K for a special item rather than mission to death for them.

If your thinking about them sorta CQ's the game will be dead before anyone ever got to that for a fm-1500 The person with the most CQ in the game doesnt even have close to that.

To My Knowledge...

CQ Leader Pharaoh420nels - 29k Syntax <Exploits> - Cyph.

supremegonkage wrote:

MXOMastatec wrote:

or why not make a CQ Store/Shop

FM-1500 Cost: 50k CQ points

Blue Headlamp Cost: 10K CQ points

several other MMO games have these types of token and have a 'store/shop' to trade them in.  I know id rather kill 5K for a special item rather than mission to death for them.

If your thinking about them sorta CQ's the game will be dead before anyone ever got to that for a fm-1500 The person with the most CQ in the game doesnt even have close to that.

To My Knowledge...

CQ Leader Pharaoh420nels - 29k Syntax <Exploits> - Cyph.

Untouchable on vector has more. Can't remember how much exactly though. (Around 30-40) Also ILLFACE i *think* has just a few more than phar.

Lastime i checked Illface was just over 16k and Eps was just over 20k

And i was Comparing "To Date".

Lastime i checked Illface was just over 16k and Eps was just over 20k

And i was Comparing "To Date".

From what i hear from others Untouchables just has over 10k.

And all of the players mentioned and there CQ counts dont compare so until someone steps up and shows more CQ i would proclaim him the CQ leader.

Anyway back ontopic!

Yes a class sytem would be great and surely it could be interprated using some sort of parameters engine, the question is would this be faesible if put to the situation? 

Maybe use a picture for each 'class' like that of the hovercraft ranks on the RSI boards or a army fleet (eg picture is; 3 gold lines means class 3, 4 gold lines is class 4) or simply have it show up on the details background underneath the CQ count.

Another idea could be like that of the level-identifying system. A player 50 would flag up as pink on their name if you click on them, and green if its lowbie (cant remember the right colours, but you get the idea?)  add on some new colours; people with over 10k CQ will con as SILVER, a player with over 20k CQ as GOLD, etc etc

Thoughts?

Sphairo87 wrote:

Yes a class sytem would be great and surely it could be interprated using some sort of parameters engine, the question is would this be faesible if put to the situation? 

Maybe use a picture for each 'class' like that of the hovercraft ranks on the RSI boards or a army fleet (eg picture is; 3 gold lines means class 3, 4 gold lines is class 4) or simply have it show up on the details background underneath the CQ count.

Another idea could be like that of the level-identifying system. A player 50 would flag up as pink on their name if you click on them, and green if its lowbie (cant remember the right colours, but you get the idea?)  add on some new colours; people with over 10k CQ will con as SILVER, a player with over 20k CQ as GOLD, etc etc

Thoughts?

I'd love something like that! And it would be kick *CENSORED* to *trade* CQ's in for items. Even if it was guns, clothes, pills. Something useful for PvP. But not normal buffed clothes, guns or pills. Make them useful for PvP, like defense, damage, IS regen, ect.






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Sphairo87 wrote:

Yes a class sytem would be great and surely it could be interprated using some sort of parameters engine, the question is would this be faesible if put to the situation? 

Maybe use a picture for each 'class' like that of the hovercraft ranks on the RSI boards or a army fleet (eg picture is; 3 gold lines means class 3, 4 gold lines is class 4) or simply have it show up on the details background underneath the CQ count.

Another idea could be like that of the level-identifying system. A player 50 would flag up as pink on their name if you click on them, and green if its lowbie (cant remember the right colours, but you get the idea?)  add on some new colours; people with over 10k CQ will con as SILVER, a player with over 20k CQ as GOLD, etc etc

Thoughts?

I'd love something like that! And it would be kick *CENSORED* to *trade* CQ's in for items. Even if it was guns, clothes, pills. Something useful for PvP. But not normal buffed clothes, guns or pills. Make them useful for PvP, like defense, damage, IS regen, ect.

SniperWolf101 wrote:

Sphairo87 wrote:

Yes a class sytem would be great and surely it could be interprated using some sort of parameters engine, the question is would this be faesible if put to the situation? 

Maybe use a picture for each 'class' like that of the hovercraft ranks on the RSI boards or a army fleet (eg picture is; 3 gold lines means class 3, 4 gold lines is class 4) or simply have it show up on the details background underneath the CQ count.

Another idea could be like that of the level-identifying system. A player 50 would flag up as pink on their name if you click on them, and green if its lowbie (cant remember the right colours, but you get the idea?)  add on some new colours; people with over 10k CQ will con as SILVER, a player with over 20k CQ as GOLD, etc etc

Thoughts?

I'd love something like that! And it would be kick *CENSORED* to *trade* CQ's in for items. Even if it was guns, clothes, pills. Something useful for PvP. But not normal buffed clothes, guns or pills. Make them useful for PvP, like defense, damage, IS regen, ect.

Maybe a verrrry rare item with very good buffs, forfemales.. something like a suit agent pace wears.. or, something, very extravagent and eye pleasing.

Sphairo87 wrote:

SniperWolf101 wrote:

Sphairo87 wrote:

Yes a class sytem would be great and surely it could be interprated using some sort of parameters engine, the question is would this be faesible if put to the situation? 

Maybe use a picture for each 'class' like that of the hovercraft ranks on the RSI boards or a army fleet (eg picture is; 3 gold lines means class 3, 4 gold lines is class 4) or simply have it show up on the details background underneath the CQ count.

Another idea could be like that of the level-identifying system. A player 50 would flag up as pink on their name if you click on them, and green if its lowbie (cant remember the right colours, but you get the idea?)  add on some new colours; people with over 10k CQ will con as SILVER, a player with over 20k CQ as GOLD, etc etc

Thoughts?

I'd love something like that! And it would be kick *CENSORED* to *trade* CQ's in for items. Even if it was guns, clothes, pills. Something useful for PvP. But not normal buffed clothes, guns or pills. Make them useful for PvP, like defense, damage, IS regen, ect.

Maybe a verrrry rare item with very good buffs, forfemales.. something like a suit agent pace wears.. or, something, very extravagent and eye pleasing.

The whole idea with a new CQ system would be a great add to the game. I also think that the "war" we are in right now would be more fun, if we could use the PvP and CQ system in some way.

Yes a rank system would be good too!

The rank system is in the hands of the web team not Rarebit etc (Though they could give them a little nudge to wake them up ), until they get themselves sorted and set it up, we won't be seeing any rank system.

Yasamuu1 wrote:

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Screw the forums!

INGAME RANKING!

WOO!!! *wooshes around his banner*

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Screw the forums!

INGAME RANKING!

WOO!!! *wooshes around his banner*

I was thinking the other day when I was gaming.  What if the CQ system was revamped to work for players that are trying to advance there experience against RSI with high/very high CQ numbers.  What I am saying is if a RSI that has a low CQ level could do better with gaining CQ by killing a RSI with CQ class level higher then their own.  For instance killing a Class Level 4 RSI with CQ levels of > (6000) CQ would get you (5) CQ points.

Class Level 1  RSI (0-1000) = 2 CQ points

Class Level 2  RSI (1000-3000) = 3 CQ points

Class Level 3  RSI (3000-6000) = 4 CQ points

Class Level 4  RSI > (6000) = 5 CQ points

 Now these numbers are just an example to give you a visual, but you see what I mean?  I know that might cause a little more work for the DEVs, but hope you could see the benefits in it.  What are yall feelings? 

nterface wrote:

I was thinking the other day when I was gaming.  What if the CQ system was revamped to work for players that are trying to advance there experience against RSI with high/very high CQ numbers.  What I am saying is if a RSI that has a low CQ level could do better with gaining CQ by killing a RSI with CQ class level higher then their own.  For instance killing a Class Level 4 RSI with CQ levels of > (6000) CQ would get you (5) CQ points.

Class Level 1  RSI (0-1000) = 2 CQ points

Class Level 2  RSI (1000-3000) = 3 CQ points

Class Level 3  RSI (3000-6000) = 4 CQ points

Class Level 4  RSI > (6000) = 5 CQ points

 Now these numbers are just an example to give you a visual, but you see what I mean?  I know that might cause a little more work for the DEVs, but hope you could see the benefits in it.  What are yall feelings? 

it sounds very good i like that alot.

i dont see that happening, the odds of someone between 0-1000 has the same chance to kill someone 6000+ that is what is wrong, high pvpers should be better yet they cant be, i could level another 50 and it would just be as good as the current 50 i have (maybe without Mobius code and 2 or 3 other things, but thats not the point)

Yet the idea of a rankin system with the badges i think is a great idea, its basic, it has meaning, its a start so im all for that, just time really....

• CQ Points now determine a Chevron rank for players as follows
• > = 1,000  CQ Points
• >> = 5,000 CQ Points
• >>> = 10,000 CQ Points
• "Most Wanted Redpill" has been added to DN1. The list is as follows:
• Top 10 Redpills with the most CQ gathered for each Organization relevant to each Instance.
• Top 3 Redpills with the most CQ overall on each Instance.
• "Deadliest Redpill" - Biggest CQ collector for the entire week (encompasses all Orgs and Instances).
• CQ's are now only granted to a player who kills an enemy who is 10 levels in their range.
• CQ's are no longer granted to all members in a team, but only to the team member who did the most damage.
• "Territory Battles" are now featured in the Mega City. Official rules are listed on DN1 with a video tutorial demonstrating the system.
  
  
• Rezzers are now flagged for PvP when rezzing a dead ally once the ally is successfully rezzed.
   
  
• The new level 50 Construct is a power plant located deep in the core network north of Downtown.  Organizational restrictions no longer apply as the entire zone is Free-For-All (FFA).
• Players will notice a new proxy located in Park East that will teleport them into a random spot within the construct as there are no organizational outposts or Sentries. 
• The locals (level 50-55) that dwells within the construct are called The Undead and serve under their boss, Necrosis (level 65).  Killing Necrosis may yield rare rewards for the one who does the most damage to her.  
• New luggables have been created and can only be used within the new construct.
  

• CQ Points now determine a Chevron rank for players as follows
• > = 1,000  CQ Points
• >> = 5,000 CQ Points
• >>> = 10,000 CQ Points
• "Most Wanted Redpill" has been added to DN1. The list is as follows:
• Top 10 Redpills with the most CQ gathered for each Organization relevant to each Instance.
• Top 3 Redpills with the most CQ overall on each Instance.
• "Deadliest Redpill" - Biggest CQ collector for the entire week (encompasses all Orgs and Instances).
• CQ's are now only granted to a player who kills an enemy who is 10 levels in their range.
• CQ's are no longer granted to all members in a team, but only to the team member who did the most damage.
• "Territory Battles" are now featured in the Mega City. Official rules are listed on DN1 with a video tutorial demonstrating the system.
  
  
• Rezzers are now flagged for PvP when rezzing a dead ally once the ally is successfully rezzed.
   
  
• The new level 50 Construct is a power plant located deep in the core network north of Downtown.  Organizational restrictions no longer apply as the entire zone is Free-For-All (FFA).
• Players will notice a new proxy located in Park East that will teleport them into a random spot within the construct as there are no organizational outposts or Sentries. 
• The locals (level 50-55) that dwells within the construct are called The Undead and serve under their boss, Necrosis (level 65).  Killing Necrosis may yield rare rewards for the one who does the most damage to her.  
• New luggables have been created and can only be used within the new construct.
  

I truely dont understand why people want this "CQ ranking system". To even try to rank the CQ system in this game would be completely pointless. Anygame that has a ranking system counts kills, you gain a kill each time you kill a person, there's nothing unique about it. In MXO, you kill a person the first time, you gain a CQ, you kill them the 2nd time, you gain nothing. You could participate in a 6 hour long pvp battle, and have over 200kills, yet only have gotten 20 CQ's because your killing the same players over and over again and not getting crap for doing it. For there ever to be a a worthwhile CQ ranking system, you'd need to completely overhaul the CQ system, or impliment a 2nd system to track just kills.

In addition to that, lets say for a minute that there was a "ranking system" and your CQ count was pasted on the website or the forums, whats changed? and how have CQ points become worth anything? I mean congrats, you win bragging rights, but hey guess what, you can already brag about your CQ count now if you want to. Now stop to concider this, say a list of names was posted of the top 10 players from each server, I can think of players who are unsubbed who would be topping the lists for their server, for any newer pvp'er or someone who doesnt have an already huge CQ count, your gonna spend upwards of probably a year to catch up with some of these players who've been outta game for almost or over a year. That means that the names that are up there are gonna take ages to change, just like they do in any other game thats underpopulated. So again it begs the question, whats the point in having these lists posted? I mean if this is what players really wanted, just to see the top CQ leaders on each server, why not just start a thread, and have ppl post their CQ counts, or even look around for players who have really high cq counts, take a pic of their char info screen and post that, find a mod who will sticky the thread, and then start a new thread each month.

My personal opinion and the opinion of someone who would most likely be in the top 10 list on syntax is that to ask the devs for a ranking system is a waste of time. Because a ranking system is as usefull as looking at a persons char screen and looking at their CQ counts. Big whoop. Players are capable of making a ranking system by doing what I said above. If you want to come up with an idea for a CQ revamp, you need to figure out a way to make CQ's meaningful, so that they're rewarding. Just to maybe see my name on some list is meaningless, and my efforts still go unrewarded.

• CQ's are now only granted to a player who kills an enemy who is 10 levels in their range.
• CQ's are no longer granted to all members in a team, but only to the team member who did the most damage.
• "Territory Battles" are now featured in the Mega City. Official rules are listed on DN1 with a video tutorial demonstrating the system.
• New Constructs have been added to each level set.
  

My favorite bullets from Remag's dream update.

Obviously.. I really like those two.  Maybe even within 5 levels. 

RemagDiv wrote:

• CQ's are now only granted to a player who kills an enemy who is 10 levels in their range.
• CQ's are no longer granted to all members in a team, but only to the team member who did the most damage.
• "Territory Battles" are now featured in the Mega City. Official rules are listed on DN1 with a video tutorial demonstrating the system.
• New Constructs have been added to each level set.
  

My favorite bullets from Remag's dream update.

Obviously.. I really like those two.  Maybe even within 5 levels. 

To the CQ revamp I just though of this idea. When you kill one it should be listed in your details to show what organization the player that you killed like this;

• Zion/EPN  34
• Mech/Cyph 56
• Merv  50

Switching to another organization dosen't effect it.

The first one I can deal with, the second is a bad idea as it punishes support classes like patchers and Upgrade Masters and the like.
A CQ for the team is fine IMO.

Then if there is ever any sort of ranking system or anything whatsoever that the amount of CQ points you have matters..it STILL won't mean anything because people will always mooch CQ points.  Which is why I honestly don't give a .... who has what amount of CQ points. 

You have a point though (team = win) ... I'm hoping I'm kinda making one too.

I also like Mindsweep's idea of the numbers from each org you've killed/gotten CQs from.  That'd be cool to look at.