Okay... I'm looking at a story arc where my character finds out she's pregnant, but I was wondering how I should run this: should I play out the nine months in real time or should I foreshorten it a little? It's gonna be a tough act to keep up for the duration, and I'd had the thought that she shifts from active combat (SMG Specialist) to a non-combat position (probably coding or Physician), for the simple reason that she's not sure how getting her RSI shorted in the Matrix would affect her unborn children, especially because in the Real she's small and, as she later finds out, she'll be expecting twins. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
I'm always for two things, especially since this is the Matrix where pew pew is possible:
1.) Rapid futuristic pregnancy booster thing so you can pop 'em out and be back in the battlefield in no time, barring maternitity leave. ;) 2.) RSI deterioration (any cause, Viral, head-booted, w/e) forcing surgery. (It's more dramatic this way. :p)
I'm always for two things, especially since this is the Matrix where pew pew is possible:
1.) Rapid futuristic pregnancy booster thing so you can pop 'em out and be back in the battlefield in no time, barring maternitity leave. 2.) RSI deterioration (any cause, Viral, head-booted, w/e) forcing surgery. (It's more dramatic this way. :p)
Option two *might* work, but the earliest it could be done would be six or seven months, and then you got the difficulties of caring for premature infants in the Real. They're hard enough to take care of in the real world, let alone in a world that's solid nuclear winter. :: Laughs a little::
Option one... I don't see it working without killing our gal, since pregnancy takes a *LOT* out of a gal under normal circumstances, let alone trying to speed it up. Consider the fact that a pregnant lady has to eat for two, as the saying goes. The shortest I'd go would be six months, but then there's the matter of hauling more nutrients into her system, etc.
Several days, up to a week are spanned ingame., find out how long from dusk till dawn, and plan accordinly
That'd take like 3 years! We're supposed to be 6 or 7 months further in the story line so if you're going for the MXO time... Man, that will take long...
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
hmm... not a sharp fellow are you?
ever heard of a freeborn? you know, someone who's born in the real? and what about sati? a program born (created) out of love? whats to stop an exile jealus of humans giving life programming to simulate pregnancy to simulate child birth for their new program? and who said they got pregnant in the matrix? that's physically impossible.
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
hmm... not a sharp fellow are you?
ever heard of a freeborn? you know, someone who's born in the real? and what about sati? a program born (created) out of love? whats to stop an exile jealus of humans giving life programming to simulate pregnancy to simulate child birth for their new program? and who said they got pregnant in the matrix? that's physically impossible.
so to sum up. WROOOONG!
Whew, thanks for sticking up for the idea, bannaphone (neat name, by the way). And to quote Abel in the "Sandman Comics": "This is my story, I'm telling it my way", DemondHunter. The idea is only in the tinkering-with-it stage, so I haven't done anything to set it in motion yet. I know only three female player-characters who've RPed pregnancy, anyway (two of them ended in miscarriage), so it's not like it's been over-done. I might not even run with the idea in the end, as I still haven't worked out all the knots yet.
Heh got my vote for category of "Most planned out RP" and heck if you need a rich grandaddy warbucks...........I guess il let the money do the talking and not my mouth itself XD. Plus i am a grandfather in the real life scenario "not matrix "real" or inside matrix. talking about real life as this message board" but its a pain in the rear having to clean the smelly ones they leave in there diaper. *huggies dont fail the lil one now*
its amazing that this guy lost his socks over a human getting pregnant (known to happen) but everyone seems to think vampires are ok..
*shakes head*
gl with your RP segment tho, sounds cool =D
Re: the vamps -- depends on who you talk to, and I'll admit to being ambivalent about it since I've had some nasty experiences with vamp RPers, but I'm basically cool with it.
I actually thought of an alternate slant on this arc, inspired by "Morning Sickness", one of the Matrix Comics, in which a woman adopts a child by swiping a fetus off a stalk out in the fields; I re-read it recently and it gave me a few ideas. We'll see where this goes. (I'll admit, sometimes just brain-storming and tossing ideas around is as much fun as the actual RP. :: Laughs at self:: ))
Okay... I'm looking at a story arc where my character finds out she's pregnant, but I was wondering how I should run this: should I play out the nine months in real time or should I foreshorten it a little? It's gonna be a tough act to keep up for the duration, and I'd had the thought that she shifts from active combat (SMG Specialist) to a non-combat position (probably coding or Physician), for the simple reason that she's not sure how getting her RSI shorted in the Matrix would affect her unborn children, especially because in the Real she's small and, as she later finds out, she'll be expecting twins. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
hmm... not a sharp fellow are you?
ever heard of a freeborn? you know, someone who's born in the real? and what about sati? a program born (created) out of love? whats to stop an exile jealus of humans giving life programming to simulate pregnancy to simulate child birth for their new program? and who said they got pregnant in the matrix? that's physically impossible.
so to sum up. WROOOONG!
Wasn't Persephone trying to get knocked up before Niobe busted in?
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
hmm... not a sharp fellow are you?
ever heard of a freeborn? you know, someone who's born in the real? and what about sati? a program born (created) out of love? whats to stop an exile jealus of humans giving life programming to simulate pregnancy to simulate child birth for their new program? and who said they got pregnant in the matrix? that's physically impossible.
so to sum up. WROOOONG!
Wasn't Persephone trying to get knocked up before Niobe busted in?
Well, Perse and Merv were definately having some... quality time together, though I always had the feeling those two hadn't had any in decades, for whatever reason (probably because of him playing the field). I somehow don't see those two having kids, or if they did, they'd probably farm them out to L'Ecole de la Tour (the exclusive school for young Exiles that the Merv maintains, according to the old strategy guide).
And don't worry, Fen, Sieges's baby-daddy is obviously going to be her true love and husband-to-be, Nucl3ar (Not that there's anything really going on between me and Nuc's player: we're just so good at the RP that some folks have asked if he and I really are an item. :: Laughs:: ))
I noticed some players discussing real time versus MxO time. Yea the daylight in game may lead one to believe this, however the truth of the matter is.
MxO time = Real Time
In terms of the story line, it has just been a little over 2 years (i.e. the end of MxO's 2nd Anniversary Event) since Neo sacrificed himself at the end of The Matrix Revolutions.
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
1. "REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!!" Says who? Show me proof, and I'll listen; otherwise, *CENSORED*.
2. "wouldn't show in the Matrix" See question #1.
3. "cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know" Then it killed your todger, too.
4. "And EXILES don't have babies either" One word: Kamala. Sounds like someone didn't watch the whole trilogy.
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
1. "REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!!" Says who? Show me proof, and I'll listen; otherwise, *CENSORED*.
2. "wouldn't show in the Matrix" See question #1.
3. "cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know" Then it killed your todger, too.
4. "And EXILES don't have babies either" One word: Kamala. Sounds like someone didn't watch the whole trilogy.
As a side note; Chemmypwnt.
Yes, you do, sistah! Nice to see someone else playing a gal speak up on this subject.
In the end, I've decided to take an interesting tack on this idea, one which I hope to set in motion and start posting about soon. Not to let out too much, but it involves creating children who will have the wherewithal to enjoy the best of both sides of the looking glass, but it won't be -- as I'd originally thought when I decided to undertake this completely new angle -- a rehash of "Morning Sickness", one of the "Matrix" comics availible through the official site for the series, aka whatisthematrix.com.
I'm very intrigued by this idea. I've only just read this and already I can think of philisophical implications it brings up, like the mental strain of the Matrix on the mother and the baby, and when the baby begins to be cognitive, will that manifest itself in the Matrix?
Oh, and to answer the statement that exiles don't have kids: Dame White and Mr. Black have a half dozen of em, and Black has one bastard (Grisaille) out of wedlock, so yes, they can procreate. And Machine AI can do the same as seen in Sati.
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
While I'd put up a different argument as to why someone shouldn't RP a pregnancy, you're wrong.
In the Real, a podborn certainly can carry a baby to full term. It's obvious by the fact that there's homegrown individuals in Zion without the plugs in their bodies. The Redpills' genitalia still works just fine. And Exiles can certainly reproduce as well, although it's in a fashion unlike carrying a child in the womb, as far as we know. Dame White and Mr. Black have several children. Hence, the Spectrum family.
The reasons why I don't see this as something to RP have more to do with how I perceive it as "overboard RP." From my understanding of how the Matrix works, if someone DOES happen to give birth inside of the Matrix it would merely be to continue the creation of machine-made humans. Those who raise the child in the Matrix wouldn't necessarily be biological parents, but then they wouldn't know the difference as Bluepills. I think these details are open to speculation to some degree, but I also feel that getting an official answer, confirming this one way or the other, is a waste of time. It falls into the category of 'too much information.'
4. "And EXILES don't have babies either" One word: Kamala. Sounds like someone didn't watch the whole trilogy.
The details as to whether or not Kamala and his wife conceived Sati in the same way that humans do are not known. It's possible that since they are programs they were created and merely existed as they were. Sati may not age at all. The Machines merely saw her as expendable, therefore were going to delete her.
I think it all depends on how they conceive the child. The dynamics of it have not been stated, so who knows.
I don't think sex between two RSI's would conceive a child. however if one were conceived in The Real, or the Pregnant Redpill was realesed from the pod while pregnant (remember, we don't know how the machines made babies, so some liberties are allowed), then it should have some interesting affects
I tend to think that most Organisations, being run in pseudo-military fashion at least, would have rules and regulations against pregnant operatives working in the field. What do they do in the real armed forces? I'm not sure myself but I'd expect you'd be stood down from active duty pretty quickly. The problem with that though is sitting in Zion for nine months isn't really fun to RP so I guess you gotta follow your dream with this one.
There's an Exile program, a tarnished clown with razor-sharp teeth and wicked bile dripping from his lips. He goes by the name FetusEater and he consumes the adolescence of this world.
My theory has always been that the Machines have been breeding humans via something like in vitro fertilization, then placing the embryos on those fetal stalks seen in the first movie, thus allowing the embryos to grow around the neural interface jacks (I think there's an essay that offered a possible scientific explanation for this, in one of those "The Matrix and philosophy" books, but I can't recall which one offhand). They probably have some way of collecting viable eggs and sperm from the humans in the pods, but at the risk of TMI, I won't go into that. In the meantime, a bluepill woman would just have the sensations of being pregnant piped into her brain, as well as undergoing all the physical fun stuff that goes with it. The child that she "gives birth to" in the Matrix has probably just been taken off the stalk by one of those harvester machines and has been inserted in an empty pod somewhere on one of the Power Plants, and that child is having the sensations of being born piped into their brain as well. Kind of sad and creepy and cold-blooded to think about...
To ZeroTolerance -- Heh, heh... considering how many wierd Exiles there are -- either player-created or canonic -- who knows but there might be something like that out there.
To GypsyJuggler -- Yeah, I kinda didn't cotton to the idea of my gal being cooped up at Merovingian outpost for nine months, either, which is why I came up with the alternate idea...
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
*CENSORED*!!!! *CENSORED*?!?!?!? What the HELL is with you woman and being pregnant?!!!?!? REDPILLS DO NOT GET PREGNANT!!!!! Ok, they can only get pregnant in the REAL, and it wouldn't show in the Matrix....maybe not even in the real, cuz being in a pod 1/2 your life probably killed ...you know................And EXILES don't have babies either, did you ever see Persephone or blooddrinkers running around with a huge *CENSORED* gut...I think NOT...so stop with the pregnant crazyness Ladies!
Alright. Best post ever.
I gotta admit, it's one of the funnier bat-brain-insane ones I've seen on here.
I think it all depends on how they conceive the child. The dynamics of it have not been stated, so who knows.
I don't think sex between two RSI's would conceive a child. however if one were conceived in The Real, or the Pregnant Redpill was realesed from the pod while pregnant (remember, we don't know how the machines made babies, so some liberties are allowed), then it should have some interesting affects
Quick! Someone get a doctor to tell us how babies are really created!
EDIT: Oh right, I had a real post to contribute, too.
As someone noted on page 2, MxO time is real time. Rarebit's said as much. If you are going to RP a pregnancy, then it'll be 9 months unless you take one of Zippy's suggestions. I can't imagine that jacking in would cause too much of a strain on the fetus unless you got into combat situations - anything causing the body to convulse in the chair is probably not wise. As to whether the pregnancy would show or not in the Matrix, that's up to interpretation - Neo still had hair when he first jacked in, despite not seeing any in the real, and the head jacks and other various little plugs certainly didn't show up when the redpills jacked in in the movies, either. Maybe get a body type 3 pill.
I think it all depends on how they conceive the child. The dynamics of it have not been stated, so who knows.
I don't think sex between two RSI's would conceive a child. however if one were conceived in The Real, or the Pregnant Redpill was realesed from the pod while pregnant (remember, we don't know how the machines made babies, so some liberties are allowed), then it should have some interesting affects
Quick! Someone get a doctor to tell us how babies are really created!
EDIT: Oh right, I had a real post to contribute, too.
As someone noted on page 2, MxO time is real time. Rarebit's said as much. If you are going to RP a pregnancy, then it'll be 9 months unless you take one of Zippy's suggestions. I can't imagine that jacking in would cause too much of a strain on the fetus unless you got into combat situations - anything causing the body to convulse in the chair is probably not wise. As to whether the pregnancy would show or not in the Matrix, that's up to interpretation - Neo still had hair when he first jacked in, despite not seeing any in the real, and the head jacks and other various little plugs certainly didn't show up when the redpills jacked in in the movies, either. Maybe get a body type 3 pill.
Reviving this idea... Now the Body Type 3 pill trick works very well, since my gal is built *teeny*. I'll keep this in mind when I go RSI Pill farming.
I think it all depends on how they conceive the child. The dynamics of it have not been stated, so who knows.
I don't think sex between two RSI's would conceive a child. however if one were conceived in The Real, or the Pregnant Redpill was realesed from the pod while pregnant (remember, we don't know how the machines made babies, so some liberties are allowed), then it should have some interesting affects
Quick! Someone get a doctor to tell us how babies are really created!
EDIT: Oh right, I had a real post to contribute, too.
As someone noted on page 2, MxO time is real time. Rarebit's said as much. If you are going to RP a pregnancy, then it'll be 9 months unless you take one of Zippy's suggestions. I can't imagine that jacking in would cause too much of a strain on the fetus unless you got into combat situations - anything causing the body to convulse in the chair is probably not wise. As to whether the pregnancy would show or not in the Matrix, that's up to interpretation - Neo still had hair when he first jacked in, despite not seeing any in the real, and the head jacks and other various little plugs certainly didn't show up when the redpills jacked in in the movies, either. Maybe get a body type 3 pill." width="15" height="15" />
Reviving this idea... Now the Body Type 3 pill trick works very well, since my gal is built *teeny*. I'll keep this in mind when I go RSI Pill farming.
Sieges with big boobs?
You're making leaving this game much too difficult.
Yes, your lucky gal can be pregnant in the real and have your babe. In the Matrix, we know there were potential Neos who were children, but we don't see newborns or toddlers. How are you gonna rep them inside the sim? Or are you just gonna refer to (talk about) them until we can create child characters?
Yes, your lucky gal can be pregnant in the real and have your babe. In the Matrix, we know there were potential Neos who were children, but we don't see newborns or toddlers. How are you gonna rep them inside the sim? Or are you just gonna refer to (talk about) them until we can create child characters?
Probably just talk/post about the wee one.
:: Chuckles at Zippy:: It probably won't happen for a month or two yet. Our girl was recently widowed (so she's been told), so she's kind of got her fedora set on someone, if he ever thinks to reciprocate...
When the child is conceived, who is to say it would have a jack in the back of its head? I imagine the pregnancy would result in a Freebirth without the nasty body piercings the Machines provide. If the child can't jack in, there's no need to create a child RSI.
Or if the child can jack in anyway, what if the mother wanted to protect the child from being exposed to The Matrix until they're quite mature? If that were the case, the child would need 10 or so years to develop and I can't imagine MxO being around 10 years from now.
When the child is conceived, who is to say it would have a jack in the back of its head? I imagine the pregnancy would result in a Freebirth without the nasty body piercings the Machines provide. If the child can't jack in, there's no need to create a child RSI.
Or if the child can jack in anyway, what if the mother wanted to protect the child from being exposed to The Matrix until they're quite mature? If that were the case, the child would need 10 or so years to develop and I can't imagine MxO being around 10 years from now.
Yeah, there was the idea Anubis and I were working on :: Looks in Anubis's general direction, making "please stay!" puppy-eyes:: about creating freeborn Redpills, and I think it'd progressed to the point that our girl had several egg cells frozen in a lab in Outpost Bane...
:: laughs:: Love that pic! We'll see how this turns out. I'm half-tempted to jot down some second-generation fanfic about the wee fellow, but first we'd have bring him into the world. We'll see where this goes.
It makes me wonder. Why is there not a SINGLE CHILD in the whole simulation?
It would be nice to see children moving cubes in the air.
The thing about how machines make humans it's like artificial insemination for me. They trace the couple who copulate, they find them in their respective pods, sustract the sperm and get it into the woman's pod. I suppose she need special treatment while pregnancy. Then, the baby is born and taken to the crop fields.
If someone said this before, I apologyze.
I want a son too T_T
It makes me wonder. Why is there not a SINGLE CHILD in the whole simulation?
It would be nice to see children moving cubes in the air.
The thing about how machines make humans it's like artificial insemination for me. They trace the couple who copulate, they find them in their respective pods, sustract the sperm and get it into the woman's pod. I suppose she need special treatment while pregnancy. Then, the baby is born and taken to the crop fields.
If someone said this before, I apologyze.
I want a son too T_T
MatrixRefugee offered a brilliant response with plenty of canonical evidence.
Morpheus said "We're not born, we're grown." That's enough fact for me.
It makes me wonder. Why is there not a SINGLE CHILD in the whole simulation?
It would be nice to see children moving cubes in the air.
The thing about how machines make humans it's like artificial insemination for me. They trace the couple who copulate, they find them in their respective pods, sustract the sperm and get it into the woman's pod. I suppose she need special treatment while pregnancy. Then, the baby is born and taken to the crop fields.
If someone said this before, I apologyze.
I want a son too T_T
MatrixRefugee offered a brilliant response with plenty of canonical evidence.
Morpheus said "We're not born, we're grown." That's enough fact for me.
Yeah, one of the very recent (8.1) Merv missions had a whole slew of information about how the Machines propagate the humans. One of the Succubuses (succubi? Danged Latin correspondence course) said something about how strange/icky it was when pregnancy was the norm.
It is scary that people like yourselves vote or will soon be able to. Im glad the future is in the hands of those who like to pretend they are pregnant in a goofy *CENSORED* game.
