Hacker Vs Ma

We all know that Ma's are the strongest agaist hackers easy and hands down... lets get some suggestions going about how you actually defeat even the ut most strongest Ma's

Suggestions open... i just dont have enough time to type any lmao....

Agreed. IL is death for a hacker.

The basic strategy is to root/hack/stun/hack, rinse and repeat.

The last thing they wanted to achive with cr2.0 is that hackers are overpowered again... But I do think that the penaltys are a bit to harsh... Look at it this way:

 Out of IL:

MA<Hacker, Hacker>MA

In IL:

MA>Hacker, Hacker< MA

So the only way for both MA and Hacker to defeat each other, is using the combat area they have the best chances in. So for Hacker out of Interlock and for the Martial Arts IN Interlock. It's a thing of determaning the weakness of the other. And with evade shield + gaussian blur, you have plenty of time for the Root-Hack-Stun-Hack procedure.

Agreed. IL is death for a hacker.

The basic strategy is to root/hack/stun/hack, rinse and repeat.

I was waiting for not only time to post his but... the comments people would come out with and i knew for a fact that someone would say "hacker is useless in IL"... one word - **bullcrud**..

I can own anything in intellock except heal loads, people that spam knives and expoliters lol And obviously the the really good ma's... Honestly tho since alot of people nowerdays arnt kitted much agaist hacker i think we have a wee bit of an advantage... But a hell of alot of disadvantage when it comes to accuracy. Now maybe you wanna try this if u havent already... (Ravager/ballista) Since logic cannon isnt worth the wait the intruption or the waste of Upgrade attacks and overclock and the crap defense of Power fist you might wanna first off cast The Destroy rolve (if this hits you'll be basicly won well i normally do with a good 231 MDR) and then Vector proberly best off the other way round just couldnt be botherd to retype, Anyways by this time (if you've hit both or neither) you'll be cast into intellock (if u can cast a sneaky code infection 4.0 before  this will help you even more) Once in intellock speed fist ofcoarse and Upgrade Attack is launched... then get the Dots going... for example (Code infection 4,3 and infect area 2.0) if u can hit these 3  even if there viral resistance is at 190 (which i've tried already) half health is gone... better than a logic cannon yes? once these dots are cast you can proberly hit a few logic blasts or whatever in to knock the health down even more... If there not dead by this time (and your I.s ispretty fooked) then what i'd do is... Mobius code then fly in amber and finish them off with code infection 4 and a logic blast which will hopefully hit... works most of the time but its not full proof. This is one of my main loads you'll see me use the percentage of the time as im not a big fan of full Dot loads because i dont think they requir much skill anyways theres a few basics for ya's that wanted to know - KD

OK, I'll admit that I suck at PvP (there, happy? )

So maybe you guys can 'educate' me on what I'm doing wrong?

Belief and Reason at 30 (with a couple of points in Perception and Vitality), every clothing item is level 50 with outstanding bonuses and att's, and I run my def buffs constantly.

Outside of IL, I can hold my own. Well, against non-sploiters anyway. (one guy deflected 12 attacks in a row the other night. 12!!)

But, the minute I get into IL, two specials from my opponent and I'm done. And nothing I throw in IL hits. Period. I got a better chance of landing self-defense melee, than a hack.

Suggestions? Comments?

ANY lo can take a GOOD MA out in IL that knows their stuff and has good VR -

That is very true i mean how many Ma's are kitted with there full VR and VD nowerdays anyways? which im not complaining about i think its great but hense why i nearly have another 50 hehe if anything does dromaticly happen hehe

For any loadout to beat MA is simply, avoid IL.

Hackers have many abilites to slow/root, use them. Its exactly how a MKT or Gunman would also defeat them, though most gunman can beat MA in IL with the right loadout.

Well a gunner should be able to since the system on base proves that Gunman has the advantage over An Ma. And your not really correct either about any load can beat and MA outside of intellock. We just dont have the accuracy to do so. If you fight a really good MA with great defense bonus's as it is you will only get a few a attacks in before they drag u in intellock and the chances of you hitting them slow/root/stun abilitys are slim but like i said before i've seen good Ma's that i cant beat. and Ma's that i can, and it tends to be the good Ma's agaist me lose agaist the ma's  that dont win agaist me which is because they obviously kitted out with VD, VR and all the rest of it and as its as class that defeats hacker on base like Ma loses agaist gunner its alot harder for us to win overall. Ok dinner cya - KD

would anybody agree with me that some of the penalties are a bit too harsh.

i mean we take a hit in interlock as it is with the 1 dps attacks but then to hit us with an accuracy debuff too, thats streching it a little.

if they are giving the accuracy debuff as part of a support class label (which i highly disagree with) then why havent they done it to riflemen or smg specialists , who are also ranged fighters who recieve no IL accuracy penalty ?

you know ... you can beat MA with howitzer i think ... well, works for me anyway ... as long as its 1 on 1 and no one else is attacking me

bottom line!

i dont wanna hear crap about the last thing that soe wanted to do iz make hacker overpowered again , itz the same thing with ma now.

they are over powered BIG TIME and more soo that hacker ever was.

 the game is supposed to be balanced and it is not; soe has to fix cr2.0

the penalties in interlock need to dissappear, i should be able to hack out of interlock, in interlock, no matter who i am fighting.

if ma gets natural viral defense that is high enough to make me miss 10 times in a row when my viral accuracy is az high as it can go and i have buff clothing that increases it by another 10 percent, then i, az a hacker want natural defense against ma and gunns that prevents them from hitting me 10 times in a row too

soe; ; make it a priority to actually balance the game out, instead of appealing to the little kids who like playing tekken.

i mean jeeeez, enpough with a 2,308 power kick, my strongest virus cannot do that damage....

bottom line!

i dont wanna hear crap about the last thing that soe wanted to do iz make hacker overpowered again , itz the same thing with ma now.

they are over powered BIG TIME and more soo that hacker ever was.

 the game is supposed to be balanced and it is not; soe has to fix cr2.0

the penalties in interlock need to dissappear, i should be able to hack out of interlock, in interlock, no matter who i am fighting.

if ma gets natural viral defense that is high enough to make me miss 10 times in a row when my viral accuracy is az high as it can go and i have buff clothing that increases it by another 10 percent, then i, az a hacker want natural defense against ma and gunns that prevents them from hitting me 10 times in a row too

soe; ; make it a priority to actually balance the game out, instead of appealing to the little kids who like playing tekken.

i mean jeeeez, enpough with a 2,308 power kick, my strongest virus cannot do that damage....

yes i am, very serious.

the game is not balanced. gunman and martial artists are over powered when it comes to facing a hacker. either take away the viral defense that they have naturally or u give hackers bulletproof coats. omg, shall we talk about knives, jeeeez.

 what is up the knives? everyone knows in r/l u dont bring a knife to a gunfight , can soe tone them down 75% it would be more realistic.

everyone knows in r/l u dont bring a knife to a gunfight , can soe tone them down 75% it would be more realistic.

I have been MA since i started this game (a year ago) and i can honestly say i have been beaten by many a hacker, yes i have had my fair share of victories over them also. by the time i actually get them into IL i have NO IS due to the Destroy resolve hence i cant do anything, Out of IL i cant do anything either ulinke all the other loads, im not moaning im telling you how it is we dont even have a root move so root us hack us and run about all you like as we cant do FA about it, MKT's do it Slow us root us then knife us before we get a chance to do anything, hackers can do it too! there is a away to beat every load.

The fact is MA is an IL tree, hacker is like a spell caster so their advatage is ranged attacks if you make hacker better in IL it soon becomes the ultimate tree. if you dont like it change to another tree thats the beauty of this game you can change all you like!

the penalties in interlock need to dissappear, i should be able to hack out of interlock, in interlock, no matter who i am fighting.

if ma gets natural viral defense that is high enough to make me miss 10 times in a row when my viral accuracy is az high as it can go and i have buff clothing that increases it by another 10 percent, then i, az a hacker want natural defense against ma and gunns that prevents them from hitting me 10 times in a row too

soe; ; make it a priority to actually balance the game out, instead of appealing to the little kids who like playing tekken.

i mean jeeeez, enpough with a 2,308 power kick, my strongest virus cannot do that damage....

I've Done 2599 Dmg Wit' Logic Cannon =D

Your best weapon against hackers, should you choose to invest a *tiny* bit of time aquiring them..

ANTIBIOTICS!!!

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Your best weapon against hackers, should you choose to invest a *tiny* bit of time aquiring them..

ANTIBIOTICS!!!

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Well ideally very few hackers stand a chance in IL, I find they can literally tear you up out of IL so therefor investing in a few anti's will stop that nasty 800+ damage nuke from hitting you.

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Well ideally very few hackers stand a chance in IL

Unfortunately....... Quicksilver gloves = Interlock Hacker nerf

We all know that Ma's are the strongest agaist hackers easy and hands down... lets get some suggestions going about how you actually defeat even the ut most strongest Ma's

Suggestions open... i just dont have enough time to type any lmao....

kaosdevil wrote:

We all know that Ma's are the strongest agaist hackers easy and hands down... lets get some suggestions going about how you actually defeat even the ut most strongest Ma's

Suggestions open... i just dont have enough time to type any lmao....

Use ma stats and hacker and use the passive buffs from vector and so on.

5hauntaylor88 wrote:

kaosdevil wrote:

We all know that Ma's are the strongest agaist hackers easy and hands down... lets get some suggestions going about how you actually defeat even the ut most strongest Ma's

Suggestions open... i just dont have enough time to type any lmao....

Use ma stats and hacker and use the passive buffs from vector and so on.

Seconded. and incog pwns

I'm not a hacker by trade.. I don't really have a trade.  I try to know something about everthing.  I happen to think I'm decent, not the best at anything, but can hold my own type thing.

Everything has pros and cons. 

And I don't want to hear about logic cannons being worthless.  I started playing with it last weekend.

That's just some of the better ones.  Some.

5 of those were MAs.

Ballista/Destroyer?

I just have to ask, was it in Mass PvP or 1 on 1's. Cause in mass PvP it's quite possible to charge a logic cannon on someone in IL who doesn't have a chance to stop you, and even if they aren't in IL chances are there are a lot of other things more pressing UNTIL they get hit with the logic cannon they probly have no idea you are there.

I've met several hackers on Syntax who think they have the ultimate loadout cause they can use UA, Insidious code and then Logic Cannon you when you are already in IL, thus there skill is hinged around the fight being a 2 v 1.

Don't read too much into it.   It's during both "mass" pvp and smaller situations.  Some were in interlock with others.. some were 1v1 where I rooted and hacked away.  Some were 1v1.. during mass pvp.  A lot of things go on.  It can be considered cheap I suppose, I'm still doing it for hits and giggles.  Any tree can be cheap, it's all prespective.

I said everything has pros and cons.. that loadout I use for my lovely logic cannon, it pretty much sucks in interlock and isn't all that good for much else but killing someone quick.   And of course that doesn't work if certain abilties get deflected or I'm interrupted.

Though to be completely on topic: MA>Hacker, unless hacker can get some good debuffs through MA's high viral defense, while he's sitting there on block.. and grab to break your shield.

Get a MA that is wearing some really good viral resist..that hacker is pretty much toast.

Also depends on the people, of course.  There's some MAs I would never jump into interlock as a hacker under most circumstances.  Others, not so much.